Revolutionary War Veterans of Hampshire County http://www.historichampshire.org/revwar.htm

>From the book 'Lunenburgh, or the Old Eastern District' By J. F. Pringle, Judge County Court. Published in 1890. FROM CANADIAN ARCHIVES-HALDIMAND PAPERS, SERIES B., VOL. 158, P. 351. http://www.tbaytel.net/bmartin/aid.htm

They went where duty seemed to call, They scarcely asked the reason why; They only knew they could but die, And death was not the worst of all ! http://www.kinquest.com/history/revwar/18thRegiment_b.html

I found this in an old booklet " The American Revolution" A Selewick Archives Book with text by Lee M. White Mind Your Manners! These rules of etiquette, copied by 13 year old George Washington from the poplur publication "Young Man's Companion" were popular amoung well-to-do families that had found America to be a land of plenty. Many homes, especially on farms and plantations, served five, sometimes, six meals a day. Make no shew of taking great delight in your victuals. Feed not with greediness, cut your bread with a knife, lean not on ye table neither find fault with what you eat. If you soak bread in the sauce let it be no more than what you can put in your mouth at a time and blow not your broth at table but stay till it cools it self. Put not your meat to your mouth with your knife in your hand, neither spit forth the stones of any fruit pye upon a dish nor cast anything under the table. Drink not or talk with your month full neither gaze about you while you are drinking. Drink not too leisurely nor yet too hastily, before and after drinking wipe your lips-breath not then or ever with too great a noise, for it is uncivil. Cleanse not your teeth with the table cloth, napkin, fork, or knife, but if others do it let be done with a pick tooth. In company of your betters be not longer in eating than they are--lay not your arm but only your hand upon the table. It belongs to the cheiftest in the company to unfold his napkin and fall to meat first, but he ought then to began in time to despatch with dexterity. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marjorie Bloy" <mbloy@dial.pipex.com> To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2001 3:14 PM Subject: [A-REV] Odd way of eating? > Greetings > > Recently I was in the company of American friends and we were discussing the > War of Independence (as one does...). Over dinner, we started to talk about > the odd way that Americans eat their food and they thought that using the > fork only, and in the right hand, originated from the colonial period: that > "patriots" used that way of eating - in public - as a sort of "secret sign" > that they _were_ rebels and not loyalists. > > I said I'd no idea (I eat with the fork in my right hand because I happen to > be left handed - which sparked the discussion) but I possibly "knew" a lot > of folk who might. I'd be grateful for suggestions/answers/comments! > > Cheers > > Marjie. > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C4EDF67EBE54935B04CB0518 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------C4EDF67EBE54935B04CB0518 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <janheil@home.com> Received: from home.com ([24.176.39.92]) by femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20011103212939.UZGT5034.femail7.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Sat, 3 Nov 2001 13:29:39 -0800 Message-ID: <3BE46166.35F33F76@home.com> Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2001 13:28:07 -0800 From: Jan Heiling <janheil@home.com> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marjorie Bloy <mbloy@dial.pipex.com> Subject: Re: [A-REV] Odd way of eating? References: <001e01c164a5$cac6eb60$c487bc3e@marjiebloy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Marjorie, You can visit this website: http://www.cuisinenet.com/digest/custom/etiquette/utensil_howto.shtml be sure and go to 'forms of utensils' link ... excerpts which fall during the period of list: Early 17th century As forks become more common implements at the table and are used for holding food steady while cutting and for conveying the food to the mouth, it is less necessary for knives to be made with pointed tips. They begin to be made blunt at the end. 1630 Governor Winthrop of the Massachusetts Bay Colony possesses what is said to be the first and only fork in colonial America. The fad for using a fork has not yet reached the Americas, but Americans continue to import their knives from Europe. The blunted knives imported from Europe are not so easy to eat with as pointed ones were, and many people begin to use a spoon to steady food while cutting it. They then switch the spoon to the right hand to scoop up the bite of food -- the beginnings of what is known today as the zig-zag method. 1669 King Louis XIV of France bans pointed knives--at the table or as weapons--as a measure to reduce violence, further insuring the predominance of blunted knives at the table. Early 18th century The four-tined fork has become the rule in Germany. In England, though, forks still have two tines and are not so helpful for scooping up bites of food. Knives there have begun to be fashioned with wide, almost spoon-shaped (though still flat) tips, the better to use them for conveying food to the mouth. Mid-18th century Throughout Europe, the fork has achieved the form which is now most familiar, four curved tines. The curve assists in scooping up food and allows for a clearer view of the food being cut. Early 19th century The use of forks has become popular in the United States. They are sometimes called "split spoons." Jan Marjorie Bloy wrote: > Greetings > > Recently I was in the company of American friends and we were discussing the > War of Independence (as one does...). Over dinner, we started to talk about > the odd way that Americans eat their food and they thought that using the > fork only, and in the right hand, originated from the colonial period: that > "patriots" used that way of eating - in public - as a sort of "secret sign" > that they _were_ rebels and not loyalists. > > I said I'd no idea (I eat with the fork in my right hand because I happen to > be left handed - which sparked the discussion) but I possibly "knew" a lot > of folk who might. I'd be grateful for suggestions/answers/comments! > > Cheers > > Marjie. > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 --------------C4EDF67EBE54935B04CB0518--

<smile> That's a new one on me ~ I'm right handed and I eat the fork or spoon in the right hand, but then I've always known I had some wierd habits. But that is interesting. Antoinette (Tacoma, Washington) waughtel@oz.net Marjorie Bloy wrote: > Greetings > > Recently I was in the company of American friends and we were discussing the > War of Independence (as one does...). Over dinner, we started to talk about > the odd way that Americans eat their food and they thought that using the > fork only, and in the right hand, originated from the colonial period: that > "patriots" used that way of eating - in public - as a sort of "secret sign" > that they _were_ rebels and not loyalists. > > I said I'd no idea (I eat with the fork in my right hand because I happen to > be left handed - which sparked the discussion) but I possibly "knew" a lot > of folk who might. I'd be grateful for suggestions/answers/comments! > > Cheers > > Marjie. > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2

The full history is online at website below The Revolution and Revolutionary Traditions.— This part of the Newark colony touched the Revolutionary contest at several points. The fact that Nathaniel Crane, a private,— after the Revolution well-known as Maj. Nathaniel Crane,—was in the battle of Long Island on Sept. 15, 1776, and one of the last to leave the field under a shower of bullets, indicates that citizens here early entered the military service. From 1777 the enlistments were common throughout the county. Among those known to have been from the Montclair region were Capts. Abraham Speer and Thomas Seigler, Second Lieut. Joseph Crane, Sergt. Obadiah Crane, and the Privates Jonathan and Joseph Baldwin, Aaron, Matthias, Nathaniel, Joseph, Eliakim Benjamin, Oliver, William and Phineas Crane, Peter Davis, Nathaniel and Parmenas Dodd, Moses Harrison, Amos Tompkins, Abraham and Francis Speer, John, Levi Vincent, John Smith and a Van Gieson. After the retreat of Washington from Acquackanonck, through the lower part of the town, to New Brunswick, universal consternation prevailed. The people fled to the mountains and over the mountains. The pastor of the Mountain Church was marked for capture. The scouting-parties of the British carried devastation everywhere. But not till the reaction of the next year, 1777, did the people venture back to their desolate lands and plundered houses. Nathaniel Crane— and we may infer that others were with him— was at the battle of Monmouth in 1778, where was also Gen. Joseph Bloomfield. When Gen. Anthony Wayne— according to tradition— left his camp at Second River, just south of the ruins of the copper-works, his troops took their march in the famous snow-storm of January, 1779, up the old road to Horseneck, posting a picket at Bloomfield and abandoning their cannon embedded in the snow in Caldwell. The encampment at the Fordham Crane house, near the Mountain House, was probably in 1780,— some months after the battle of Springfield,— when the troops returned from the Hudson. The troops from this region were in that battle, in June of 1780, and Washington was greatly pleased with the patriotic spirit of the militia. His main encampment from October 7th to November 27th was at Totowa, near Paterson. Col. Mayland’s regiment of cavalry was stationed near Little Falls, and Maj. Paul’s rifle corps was stationed in a ravine near the Great Notch. He was ordered to watch the roads through the Notch into this region and into Acquackanonck, and to guard against surprises. Lafayette’s headquarters were at Gaffel, near Centreville. During October the light infantry was ordered to a new position, the better to watch the Notch and the Cranetown Gap. This agrees with the tradition well as to the time when Washington, with a detachment, was at the Crane mansion. He was scouring the country on his blooded Virginia horses, looking after the stragglers and correcting the mutinous tendencies of his wretched soldiers. The bold hill on the east side of the notch was, it is said, a favorite lookout. From that height he once detected a raiding-party of British sallying from Elizabethtown to the mountains. He dispatched at once a troop of cavalry behind the hill to Springfield, who cut off the foragers and reclaimed the fine lot of cattle they were driving off. The army here was in that deplorable condition which led, in 1781, to the mutiny of the Pennsylvania troops at Pompton. The detachment extended along the road and mountain southward from the Crane homestead. Confiscated household furniture taken from the British is still in possession of a family here, purchased with Continental currency earned by working for the soldiers. http://216.181.70.227/NJ/essex/Essex70.htm

Liste The old Battles and Skirmishes webpages has moved to: http://revwar75.com/ under the new title of "Land and Sea Battles of the American Revolution." It is collocated with the Orderly Book indices for the Continental and Crown Forces, and an index to RevWar articles in Military Collector and Historian. The new site is not just a move, but has a whole new interface. I've taken on two partners: Patrick O'Kelley from the list, and Ken Kellow. The revised list reflects the latest version of Patrick's 'War in the Carolinas.' Over the next few months we will be beefing up the Naval Battles part of the site. We'd appreciate anybody who finds an error or omission to report them to us. We are trying to make this a comprehensive list to which you would turn to find out where to find further information. While we have added many references in the last revision, there is a lot to go and would welcome help from this esteemed group in pointing us toward primary and secondary accounts. Note for Bob Davis: Still haven't got your book listed, will be hitting the reference pages shortly, and will come through as promised. In the mean time everyone go buy one of Bob's books on General Phillips. jkr

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What a splendid document: thank you! Some of 'my' HENSHAWs were there! Yours, etc. Geoffrey Woollard, Cambridgeshire, England.

Lonny, Pennsylvania Archives is in the process of digitizing all its records. So far it has the Rev War records completed and on line. You can check there for your Rohrbachs. And the records can be printed out. Go to http://www.digitalarchives.state.pa.us/ and follow the links. Lynn Brandvold > I'm trying to determine if either of these men served in the American > Revolutionary War. > > Christian Rohrbaugh b. 1720 Wahlscheid, Palatinate, Germany, d. 24 Nov 1786 > Codorus Township, York County, PA, m. 29 Jan 1743, Evangelical Reform > Chuch, Mimbach, Germany, Maria Catharin Kuntz b. 17 Jan 171 Mimbach, > Germany, d. 31 Jul 1749 Vincent Township, Chester County, PA. > > And his son... > Johann Heinrich Rohrbach b. 20 Apr 1749 Philidelphi Co., PA, d. 11 Feb > 1823, Hardy County, Virginia (now WV) m. c. 1772 PA, Anna Veronica > Hahnewald b. c. 1745-55 PA, d. 1805-23 near Petersburg, VA (now WV). > > I have checked the DAR Index, but was unable to find either of these men. > Christain Rohrbach Jr, son of Christain mentioned above is in the index. > > Thanks for any assistance, > Lonny J. Watro > >

Thanks to all those who responded to my query about the book "Tennessee During the Revolutionary War by Williams". Best of luck in your research. Bob Russell

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Mass. Historical Society List of the Sons of Liberty Click to enlarge http://www.masshist.org/Cabinet/August2001/sonsoflibertyfull.htm An Alphabetical List of the Sons of Liberty who din'd at Liberty Tree, Dorchester, 14 August 1769 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ <A HREF="http://www.masshist.org/Cabinet/August2001/sonsoflibertyfull.htm"> Full version the Sons of Liberty</A>

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I'm trying to determine if either of these men served in the American Revolutionary War. Christian Rohrbaugh b. 1720 Wahlscheid, Palatinate, Germany, d. 24 Nov 1786 Codorus Township, York County, PA, m. 29 Jan 1743, Evangelical Reform Chuch, Mimbach, Germany, Maria Catharin Kuntz b. 17 Jan 171 Mimbach, Germany, d. 31 Jul 1749 Vincent Township, Chester County, PA. And his son... Johann Heinrich Rohrbach b. 20 Apr 1749 Philidelphi Co., PA, d. 11 Feb 1823, Hardy County, Virginia (now WV) m. c. 1772 PA, Anna Veronica Hahnewald b. c. 1745-55 PA, d. 1805-23 near Petersburg, VA (now WV). I have checked the DAR Index, but was unable to find either of these men. Christain Rohrbach Jr, son of Christain mentioned above is in the index. Thanks for any assistance, Lonny J. Watro

Benjamin J. Lossing "Pictorial Field-Book of the Revolution" online at http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~wcarr1/Lossing1/Contents.html

From John Maass on SCBattles-l: FYI there is an on line article entitled Soldiers of the Colonial Militia, at http://www.earlyamerica.com/review/2001_winter_spring/colonial_militia.html

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Dear Sandel If your ancestors arrived in America in 1770, they won't have fought for Napoleon because he wasn't born until 1769. Are you sure you've got the right date here? In 1770, France was ruled by King Louis XVI. Do you have any idea why Frenchmen would go to settle in British territory? The French and British weren't on very good terms (ever), but after the end of the Seven Years' War (French and Indian War) Anglo-French relations were particularly strained. Marjie.