Hi Folks, I am seeking information on Phinehas Green. He was born in Leicester, MA. and had served in the American Revolution and was in the battle of Bunker Hill, I am trying to find what regiment he served in, and if wounded or injured. He died Feb, 1776 in Leicester. I would be greatful for any and all help. Thank You Ted Myers _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

>From a book online, the early years of NY City (Illustrated) this article: http://www.earlyrepublic.net/octo/octo-4.htm It was in July of this year that the remains of General Richard Montgomery, killed in the assault on Quebec in December, 1775, were transferred from Canada to St. Paul's chapel. Congress, in 1776, had voted the cenotaph to his memory that is set in the east front of St. Paul's. Governor Clinton notified Mrs. Montgomery of the time when the steamboat, the Richmond, bearing the general's body, would pass her country seat on the Hudson, and at that hour the constant widow, still mourning the loss of "her soldier" after a lapse of more than forty years, appeared upon the portico of her mansion. The Richmord approached and stopped; the military band on board played a Dead March; a salute was fired, and the boat bearing the precious burden passed on. http://www.earlyrepublic.net/octo/octo-5.htm

I found this URL on the Google search engine, but it does not have any reference to the names of those invovled, actually it has very little on the site( mostly about Cambridge) Edd Sinnett http://charlestown.ma.us/monument.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <JamRog624@aol.com> To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [A-REV] Bunker Hill--Known Killed in Action? > I think the Bunker Hill Monument has the names of those killed but I dont > have and cannot > find the monument inscriiptions > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

Douglas wrote: >Can someone recommend a source listing the populations of cities and >counties of the colonies in the 1770s? That would be an interesting study & it seems to be something that is often overlooked. I have some select cities that I noted while reading Lynn Montross' _Reluctant Rebels_ . Before I share those, though, I think it is interesting to look at the size of the colonies in 1770. [I didn't note where i got these numbers] Georgia 23,375 Delaware 35,496 Rhode Island 58,196 New Hampshire 62,396 New Jersey 117,431 South Carolina 124,244 New York 162,920 Connecticut 183,881 North Carolina 197,200 Maryland 202,599 Massachusetts 235,308 Pennsylvania 240,057 Virginia 447,016 Total 2,090,119 The cities I noted were; Montross [p32] lists the 6 largest cities of the British Empire in 1776 as; 750,000 London 38, 000 Philadelphia Bristol Dublin 22,000 NY 17,000 Boston Norfolk is VA's largest town.[p134] 6,000 Baltimore, 1775 [p198] 2000 Richmond, VA [Ellis, "Passionate Sage"] 1800 York, PA [RR p209] _____- Charleston, SC - [1776-- "equal to the number on the frontier" Rutledge, Debates on AOC- "J Adams Works, II p495"] Jim

I think the Bunker Hill Monument has the names of those killed but I dont have and cannot find the monument inscriiptions

Is there an online list possibly that would list those killed in action at Bunker Hill? thanks, Charles

I'm interested in obtaining a roster of Capt. Joseph Jones' Co. of militia in Lincoln Co. (then MA, now ME). I would also be interested in finding any journals or history of that unit. thanks, Charles

Can someone recommend a source listing the populations of cities and counties of the colonies in the 1770s?

Thought I'd try one more time to see if I could find some more/better local information (where in the US) about the British ship, Margaretta. I seem to have found some more specific information. Rhonda Houston http://www.mpbc.org/mpbcsite/television/hometsom/timelines/moreinfo/margart. html The British ship Margaretta is captured: A group of Machias citizens led an impromptu attack on a British ship anchored in Machias Bay. The ship and its captain were there to protect a local merchant who supplied Britain with lumber. Machias residents, armed with guns, swords, axes, and pitchforks, managed to capture the ship and to fatally wound its captain. The capture of the Margaretta was the first naval battle of the American Revolution. Maine Public Broadcasting http://www.quoddyloop.com/ma.shtml The first naval battle of the American Revolution was fought here. A monument to that battle is Burnham Tavern, where a wounded British officer (shot by a Passamaquoddy marksman) was taken for medical treatment, although he later died from his wound. http://www.quoddyloop.com/museum.htm#anchor77029 Two commissioned American privateers, Foster and Jeremiah O'Brien, angered the British so much that they burned several buildings in the area, but were driven off by both Americans and Indians. http://www.quoddyloop.com/washcohist.htm http://earth.vol.com/~vandy/military.htm Revolutionary War Patriots Nathaniel Cox MA Soldiers & Sailors in the War of the Revolution, vol. 4, pg 53: Cox, Nathaniel, Narragaugus. Private, Capt. Francis Shaw, Jr.'s (Seacoast) co.; enlisted 9/9/1775; service 4 mos. 1 day; company stationed at Narragaugus, Gouldsborough, No. 4, and Pleasant river. vol. 4, pg. 53: Cox, Nathaniel. Sergeant, Lieut. Thomas Parrat's detachment drafted from militia; enlisted 6/24/1777; discharged 6/30/1777; service, 7 days, at Machias. Roll sworn to at No. 4. vol 4, pg 53: Cox, Nathaniel. Sergeant Major, Col. Benjamin Foster's regt.; engaged 9/25/1777; discharged Oct. 10, 1777; service, 15 days, at Machias. vol 4 pg 53: Cox, Nathaniel. Certificate dated Machias 12/12/1777, signed by Capt. Reuben Dyer, stating that said Cox and others had received bounty from Capt. Stephen Smith, Muster Master for Lincoln Co., for engaging to serve on the expedition against St. Johns; also, Sergeant, Capt. Reuben Dyer's co.; engaged 7/4/1777; discharged 12/13/1777; service, 5 mos. 10 days; company raised for expedition against St. Johns, NS, and continued in service at and for the defense of Machias. Per Early Pleasant River Families was one of 4 men from Pleasant River who received 18 pounds of prize money from the capture of the Margaretta - see below "On June 12, 1775, a party of Maine mariners, armed with pitchforks and axes, inspired by the news of the recent victory at Lexington, Massachusetts, used an unarmed lumber schooner to surprise and capture a fully armed British warship, HMS Margaretta, off the coast of Machias, Maine." This was the first Naval battle of the Revolution and led to the creation of the U.S. Navy by the Continental Congress. See: www.ncts.navy.mil/homepages/nsgawh/unity.html and www.usmm.org/revolution.html and http://home.earthlink.net/~patriot1/nav1.html Memorial of the Loyalist Families: "And so as to Machias. There was in the last quarter of the eighteenth century in Machias one fighting Ben Foster, who first went and fought the French at Louisburg, then the French and Indians under Sir William Pepperell, and soon after, in the unpleasantness that culminated in Lexington and bunker Hill, still in fighting fettle, organized with Jere O'Brien (Jere came from Ireland) two schooners, with such crews and such weapons as they could lay their hands on, to seize an armed schooner that belonged to a Mr. George the Third ..., and was commanded by one Midshipman Moore ... carrying about forty men, four ten-pounders and sixteen swivels, and any amount of hand-grenades, while the other fellows had some twenty fowling-pieces, a lot of pitchforks, and several axes. Well, the two schooners came around all right to the attack, but Jere got his schooner round in Ben's way (or else it was the wind or tide) and he got aground, and so Jere went it alone, he and Joe Getchell between them (Joe was my ancestor) between them, I say in that Jere was captain and Joe a high private that first set his foot on the schooner's deck, though this was disputed by one of the O'Briens; and besides these there were one or two other O'Briens, a Knight, a Libby, a Whitney, and several others, thus between them mustering quite a crew. And as I said, they had to go to the attack without Ben; but they succeeded after killing four and wounding the brave commander, who died the next day." http://www.paonline.com/deanorma/machias-patriots.htm Accounts indicate that about 40 Machias men manned the Unity. George W. Drisko, a local Machias historian, actually listed the following 55 names of Machias men for whom he had evidence of participating in the attack on the Margaretta. (What I believe to to be the webmaster) Footnote: 1Of the crew on board the Unity during the fight for the Margaretta, four of the men were direct ancestors of Norma Jean Getchell Newhouse. The wounded John Berry was her 5th great grandfather. Benjamin Foss was also her 5th great grandfather. Joseph Getchell and his son Joseph, Jr. were her 5th and 4th great grandfathers, respectively. Several others were brothers of other ancestors, making them Norma's distant uncles. References: George W. Drisko's "History of Machias", the "Life of Captain Jeremiah O'Brien", the "Sea of Glory", William James Morgan's "Captains to the Northwind", and the "American Theatre" Other Relevant Resources: Drisko's "The Liberty Pole; a Tale of Machias", William Bartlett Smith's "Historical Sketch of Machias" and "Memorial of the Centennial Anniversary of the Settlement of Machias", Stephen Jones' "Historical Account of Machias, Me.", and Foxhall A. Parker's "The First Sea Fight of the Revolution; the Capture of the Margaretta" http://www.trnty.edu/depts/education/teach/war/ships/warpage1.htm Merchant Mariners in the Revolutionary War The 13 Colonies, having declared their Independence, had only 31 ships comprising the Continental Navy!

Kathy Leigh efforts are to be commmended as she has obviously expended much time and effort on this project. I hope Kathy will continue her project as it provides and excellent online source for material which may not covered by the records preserved in the Mass. Archives. To the best of my knowledge, no one has previously attempted to index the secondary records applicable to Rev War soldiers. However, if one is looking for a Massachusetts (and Maine, part of Mass. 'til 1820) Rev War soldier or sailor, the place to start is the gold standard called "Massachustts Soliers and Sailors of the Revolutionary War" a.k.a. "MSSRW" comprising 17 volumes published serially by the Mass. Sec. of State 1896-1908. This 17 vol. series comprises approx. 20,000 pages with an estimated 150,000 to 200,000 discrete entries. Of course, many men have more than one entry but many entries also contain more than one record. Although MSSRW does not contain the ciotation used, it is availbale via a two step process utilizing either microfilm borrowed via interlibrary loan or via the records at the Mass Archives. First one starts with the microfilm of the abstract card files which contains the reference(s) to the original records. MSSRW contains only the abstracts of records contained in the Mass Archives collection. It is my understanding that Mass. donated sets of MSSRW to all the other State Libraries. I can't be certain about the state libraries of those states formed after 1916 but at least some of them have be given sets. Most major genealogical libraries have copies. In Mass and Maine many small libraries also have copies. A few years ago the entire set was available for purchase on a CD. I don't know what, if any, copyright restrictions exists but I would not be surprised to see MSSRW scanned and put on line in the near future. Also, don't forget the National Archives records for Mass. and Maine men who served in the Continental Army. Bob Brooks, retired on the downeast coast of Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: <JamRog624@aol.com> To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 8:48 AM Subject: [A-REV] Kathy Leigh's 3,500 Mass. men in the American Revolution webpages > Amazing achievement in its infancy....3,500 men of Mass who fought in the > Revolution. > And that's for starters. > > http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ma/state/revwar/index.html > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Massachusetts Men in the Revolutionary War Website - Submissions Note from: Kathy Leigh, Vice President of AHLN USGennet Organization If you would like to add a name, I'll be glad to do it. However, please be sure it includes source documentation. As we all know, there is quite a bit of incorrect information on the internet, and I want researchers to be comfortable with the knowledge that any information they find on any of my sites, is as accurate as possible. Send submissions to kroseleigh@hotmail.com, with the subject of Revolutionary War. Visit the growing website at: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ma/state/revwar/index.html

Amazing achievement in its infancy....3,500 men of Mass who fought in the Revolution. And that's for starters. http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ma/state/revwar/index.html

I have been reading an account of George Rogers Clarks western campaign. The book made a distinction between spies and scouts, which I had always believed were different. Yet recently I got a military record from NARA on my ancestor Andrew Vance's service on the KY frontier in the war of 1812. He was listed as a spy, and only served for about a month. When I first saw it I thought they meant scout, against the Indians. What could have been the use of a spy on this front? any suggestions? Betty

Sorry for the cross-posting, but someone on one of these lists asked about the sizes of bullets found at either F & I or Rev War sites. I have the book Colonial Frontier Guns by Hamilton. It has information of French, Dutch and English guns. There are listings for 11 different archeological sites. If you will contact me off-list and tell me which site, or sites, you are interested in I will be happy to provide you information. The sources are: Tunica Hoard from the Trudeau Site in West Feliciana Parish, Louisiana Haynes Bluff Site near the Tunica Hoard finding Michilimackinac (1715-1781) Michigan Plattner (23Sa3) village site of Little Osage in Saline County MO (French) Winnipeg River between Eagle Nest Lake and Tetu Lake in Ontario French River Basswood River Granite River Fort Frederica (1736-1749) is an English site on St. Simons Island near Brunswick, Georgia. Killdale Fort Albany Arthur McGinley mcginley@chartertn.net --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "All you need for happiness is a good gun, a good horse, and a good wife." - Daniel Boone

Here's some more about the early medical and dental days of our country that I just found. I'm sure some have already heard/known about this occurrence, and I know this url doesn't follow the current thread, but I thought some of the list might be interested in this, as well as the possible resource to where they could address their inquiries. Rhonda Houston http://www.armymedicine.army.mil/armymed/default2.htm http://www.cs.amedd.army.mil/ameddregiment/Highlights.htm The Revolutionary War On July 27, 1775, the Continental Congress created a medical service for a 20,000-man army and named Dr. Benjamin Church of Boston as director general and chief physician. That year, Dr. John Jones of New York published the first American surgery text, a pamphlet titled "Plain, Concise, Practical Remarks on the Treatment of Wounds and Fractures." It was widely used in the war. Dr. Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration of Independence, ran a Continental Army hospital and **wrote the **first American preventive-medicine **text for Army physicians. It was used until the Civil War. A historic first occurred in 1777, when George Washington ordered the inoculation of all Continental Army recruits to prevent smallpox. Never before had an entire army been immunized. And it worked. In 1778, Army doctors at Valley Forge published the first American pharmacopoeia, a 32-page list of medications. Dr. James Tilton built a well-ventilated, uncrowded Army hospital with isolation wards in 1779, influencing hospital design for decades. (Lt. Col. DaCosta Barrow, Office of the Surgeon General) http://www.dencom.army.mil/visitors/history3.htm Revolutionary War The Continental Army was established on 14 June 1775 without any idea of providing dental support to troops. Soldiers were responsible for their own dental care. French Navy dentists with the Comte de Rochambeau provided early training for civilian dentists during the American Revolution. 1776 Paul Revere performed the first recorded case of military forensic identification on the remains of Maj. Gen. Joseph Warren at Bunker Hill about ten months after Warren's death in that famous battle. 6 March 1840 The Baltimore College of Dental Surgery was established as the first dental school. Although this was primarily a civilian event, it signaled the advancement that dentistry had achieved in technology, science, education, and professional organization. These advances probably legitimized the argument by many civilian dentists of the early 1800s that the U.S. military should recognize dentistry as a specialized requirement. The Early Republic During the War of 1812 with England, the Mexican War in 1846, and the westward settlement of America, soldiers sought needed care from civilian dentists or itinerant tooth drawers. In remote locations Army physicians and hospital stewards (some with preceptor-type training in dentistry) were the only source of emergency dental care.

http://www.independenceroadtrip.org/index_h_ie.htm -- For Revolutionary War information on the Internet, your first choice should be AMERICANREVOLUTION.ORG

In a message dated 2/8/2002 1:23:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, rfhouston@mindspring.com writes: > It was between > (1775-1783) that the creation of numerous Ranger companies took place. Col Thomas Knowlton headed a Ranger group from Connecticut, and was killed at Haarlem Heights in the battle for Manhattan, Sept 1776. "But our greatest loss was a brave officer from Connecticut whose name and spirit ought to be immortalized, one Col Knowlton." Adjutant General Joseph Reed to his wife, Sept 17, 1776; Reed Papers, IV, 59, N.Y.Hist. Soc. Quoted in The Spirit of 'Seventy-Six, p 469. As I recall, Knowlton was a friend of Nathan Hale's. Anne

Just in case no one has answered the request. On the following site: http://www.mdarchives.state.md.us/megafile/msa/speccol/sc2900/sc2908/html/index.html Access the link for military records. There is a complete "copy" of the book regarding Maryland troops in the Revolution. Go to page 734, he is listed as Williama, Zephaniah, 177, 329. Hope this helps. Later, Tim Cooper

Hi Rhonda, Ed's msg with this website, is a brief overview of what the answer to my question is. http://www.poorhousestory.com/MD_Frederick_POWstory.htm If you note the reference - Dabney, William M. After Saratoga: the story of the Convention Army. Albuquerque, University of New Mexico Press, 1954 [i.e. 1955]90 p. illus. 23 cm. University of New Mexico publication in history, no. 6. He is also one of the references at: http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/reference/revbib/pows.htm Prisoners of War ... reading on down the list there are other reference materials listed. Also, Beroth, Janet. "The Convention of Saratoga." Quarterly Journal of the New York State Historical Association, 8 (July 1927), pp. 257-280. *************** Further searching yielded the following: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irish/igsi_published/articles/cntlcngr.htm This is a very interesting article for the genealogist as well as military historian. Seems there is a wealth of information. *************** http://www.philaprintshop.com/amrev.html In 1777 Gen. Burgoyne surrendered his army at Saratoga "by convention," thus it was called the "Convention Army." These troops were marched from New York to the Charlottesville, Virginia area where they built cabins and helped support themselves with subsistence farming. During various British raids in the region, they were moved inland to sites near Winchester, Virginia, Frederick, Maryland, and parts of Pennsylvania. This is the earliest print to show any part of the area of Charlottesville. A fascinating view of Virginia during the American Revolution. $950 --------------- Woods Gap was long the principal crossing of the Blue Ridge. Through it had gone a buffalo trail and later through it went the Three Notched Road, which ran from the Gap east to the South Anna River, passing along what is now the main street of Charlottesville. It was marked by three notches or blazes on trees to guide the stranger. During and after the Revolution the British prisoners of the Convention Army were taken across the Ridge by the Three Notched Road through Woods Gap. Regards, Jan

BUSH WILLIAM ACCOUNT 1783/10/08 CASH PAID TO SOLDIERS DRAFTED FROM THE CONVENTION ARMY;DRAFTED FROM 84TH (2ND) 9320 B3280 THE 24TH M-365 What is the 'THE CONVENTION ARMY' ??? http://www.75thrra.com/history/units-revloution-hist.htm According to this, those who were considered "specialized troops" acting as expert riflemen and Indian fighters were not the "Conventional Army." Weren't those who made up the first so-called Continental Army those who were seasonally active, meant they fought for three months and then went back to their farms and made sure that their families were taken care of before they left again to fight again for another two to three months...these were farmer-militia and were active before the creation of the US Army and Navy. According to this url, those who were considered "specialized troops" were not acting as "Conventional Army" members acted as experts of one sort or another like that of riflemen and Indian fighters. It was between (1775-1783) that the creation of numerous Ranger companies took place. The most famous American Ranger leaders were Colonels Daniel Morgan and Francis Marion. Their tactics were modeled after earlier colonial Ranger units. The Continental Congress ordered the creation of 10 companies of Rangers on June 14th, 1775. These units were founded in Pennsylvania (6), Maryland (2) and Virginia (2). Each state formed companies of expert riflemen and Indian fighters. Morgan's Rangers fought famous engagements against the British at Freeman Farm in 1777 and Cowpen in 1781. The primary mission of these Rangers was scouting and harassing enemy troops. Colonel Marion created his own unique company of Rangers which operated independently of the conventional American army. Their primary mission was the interruption of British lines of communications in the swamps of Carolina. In addition, Colonel Francis "Swamp Fox" Marion suppressed colonists who sided with the British Empire. Robert Rogers fought alongside the British army. Thus, those who were specialists, weren't from the "Conventional Army." Could this be the comparison/differences of what is meant by Convention Army? Rhonda Houston