I suspect they are "Microfilm Roll Boxes Below is my experience Dear Mr. Lowe, What are "Roll Boxes?" Are you referring to microfilm box numbers. It might be better to start at the beginning, are you looking for compiled military service records or pension files related to these Revolutionary War soldiers? Sincerely, OId Military and Civil Records National Archives and Records Administration >>> "wrlowe" <wrlowe@sprint.ca> 10/02/01 09:19PM >>> Cynthia: Thank you for your response. My apology for the lack of detail. I am searching the history of four military men, 1776-1778, from (I believe), Pennsylvania, as follows: Roll Box Private David LOW 40 Private John LOW 99, 100, 104 Private James LOW 84, 108, 121 Private Thomas LOW 104 Corporal Thomas LOW 108 LT SERJ Thomas LOW 103 Would you kindly advise on how I may access the information in the above mentioned roll boxes. Best regards, Wally Lowe 3468 St. Andrews Ave., Halifax, Nova Scotia Canada B3L 3Y1 wrlowe@sprint.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "NNU Public Reference Inquire" <inquire@nara.gov> To: <wrlowe@sprint.ca> Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Roll Boxes 10-02-01 Dear Mr. Lowe: Please resend your email and be more specific about your request. Are Roll Boxes related to Military Records? Include the dates you are searching for and your postal address. Thank you Cynthia Williams Customer Service Staff National Archives and Records Administration >>> "Wally Lowe" <wrlowe@sprint.ca> 09/29/01 11:56AM >>> Do you have "Roll Boxes"? Looking for RB 40 LOW, David Private (Pte). 108 LOW, James Pte. 121 LOW, James Serjeant (Sjt.). 75 LOW, John C. Sjt. Wallace Lowe wrlowe@sprint.ca --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 18/09/01 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 25/09/2001 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Keegan" <akeegan@c3net.net> To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 8:23 PM Subject: [A-REV] CD Rom > I purcahsed The CD-Rom Military Records: > American Revolutionary War Muster Rolls from Ancestry.Com > Here is my problem when I find the name I want Get > Their name > Rank and Company with a letter > Roll Box with a number and Roll Rec Box with a number now > is that all I get? and what is a Roll Box and Roll Rec Box > Where can I find The Roll Box and Rec Box Number > Oh I E-Mail them but I got not answer to my question > HELP Ann > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/2002

All the information I can find on an American Rev Solider So once I find the Roll Boxe Number I have to go some where else to get the information. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "wrlowe" <wrlowe@sprint.ca> To: "Ann Keegan" <akeegan@c3net.net>; <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Re:Roll Boxes > I suspect they are "Microfilm Roll Boxes > Below is my experience > > Dear Mr. Lowe, > > What are "Roll Boxes?" Are you referring to microfilm box numbers. It might > be better to start at the beginning, are you looking for compiled military > service records or pension files related to these Revolutionary War > soldiers? > > Sincerely, > > > OId Military and Civil Records > National Archives and Records Administration > > >>> "wrlowe" <wrlowe@sprint.ca> 10/02/01 09:19PM >>> > Cynthia: > > Thank you for your response. My apology for the lack of detail. > > I am searching the history of four military men, 1776-1778, from (I > believe), Pennsylvania, as follows: > > Roll Box > Private David LOW 40 > > Private John LOW 99, 100, 104 > > Private James LOW 84, 108, 121 > > Private Thomas LOW 104 > Corporal Thomas LOW 108 > LT SERJ Thomas LOW 103 > > Would you kindly advise on how I may access the information in the above > mentioned roll boxes. > > Best regards, > > Wally Lowe > 3468 St. Andrews Ave., > Halifax, Nova Scotia > Canada > B3L 3Y1 > > wrlowe@sprint.ca > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "NNU Public Reference Inquire" <inquire@nara.gov> > To: <wrlowe@sprint.ca> > Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 7:41 PM > Subject: Re: Roll Boxes > > > 10-02-01 > > Dear Mr. Lowe: > > Please resend your email and be more specific about your request. Are Roll > Boxes related to Military Records? Include the dates you are searching for > and your postal address. > > Thank you > Cynthia Williams > Customer Service Staff > National Archives and Records Administration > > >>> "Wally Lowe" <wrlowe@sprint.ca> 09/29/01 11:56AM >>> > Do you have "Roll Boxes"? > > Looking for RB 40 LOW, David Private (Pte). > 108 LOW, James Pte. > 121 LOW, James Serjeant (Sjt.). > 75 LOW, John C. Sjt. > > Wallace Lowe > wrlowe@sprint.ca > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: 18/09/01 > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.282 / Virus Database: 150 - Release Date: 25/09/2001 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann Keegan" <akeegan@c3net.net> > To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 8:23 PM > Subject: [A-REV] CD Rom > > > > I purcahsed The CD-Rom Military Records: > > American Revolutionary War Muster Rolls from Ancestry.Com > > Here is my problem when I find the name I want Get > > Their name > > Rank and Company with a letter > > Roll Box with a number and Roll Rec Box with a number now > > is that all I get? and what is a Roll Box and Roll Rec Box > > Where can I find The Roll Box and Rec Box Number > > Oh I E-Mail them but I got not answer to my question > > HELP Ann > > > > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > > > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > go to: > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.361 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 07/05/2002 > > >

Just something I found with some resources that you could investigate. Perhaps a reference of those who were attached at this fort is on record somewhere and one of these sources would have knowledge of where this information is located. Rhonda Houston Fort Ligonier History: In the 1750's conflict arose between England and France for control of North America. The British Crown opened the new Forbes Road and a line of forts such as Fort Ligonier, which repulsed a French assault October 12, 1758. Fort Ligonier remained in service until 1766, as a post of passage guarding the strategic Forbes Road to Pittsburgh. Visitor Experience: Fort Ligonier has been reconstructed on its original site based on extensive archeology; it includes many elements of the original fort environment (1758-1766) and a modern interpretive museum. Location: Fort Ligonier is at the intersection of U.S. 30 and Route 711, 12 miles north of Exit 9 off the Pennsylvania Turnpike. Call 724-238-9701 or FAX 724-238-9732. http://www.bartleby.com/65/gr/Greensbu.html Greensburg city (1990 pop. 16,318), seat of Westmoreland co., SW Pa.; settled c.1770, inc. as a city 1928. Located in a coal and oil area, there is oil refining, and the city manufactures metal products, building materials, electrical equipment, plate glass, and control systems. Col. Henry Bouquet defeated (1763) Native Americans near there, opening up W Pennsylvania for settlement. Greensburg (originally New Town) was located midway between Fort Ligonier and Fort Pitt. It became county seat in 1785. Seton Hill College and a branch of the Univ. of Pittsburgh are there. The Columbia Encyclopedia, Sixth Edition. Copyright C 2001 Columbia University Press. http://www.historicaltrekking.com/reference/a-i.shtml http://www.sha.org/resource/cot2-el.htm Grimm, Jacob L. 1964 Excavations at Fort Ligonier, Pennsylvania, 1960-1963. Bulletin of the Eastern States Archaeological Federation 23(June):14-15. 1758-1766, colonial frontier fort, Westmoreland County, PA. Fifty miles east of Pittsburgh, fort was in possession of both British and French during French and Indian War (1758-1766); excavated by Ligonier Memorial Foundation, 1960-1963. Brief account with outline of types of artifacts and objects found; field notes and extensive collection of artifacts at Fort Ligonier Museum, Ligonier, PA. 1970 Archaeological Investigation of Fort Ligonier - 1960-1965. Pittsburgh: Carnegie Museum. 1758-1766, British colonial fort, Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. Detailed account of excavation and artifacts. Grimm, Jacob L. and Ray Kinsey 1964 Fort Ligonier. Society for Pennsylvania Archaeology Newsletter 29(Sept.):2. Mid-18th century, British colonial fort, Westmoreland County, western PA. Associated with French and Indian War; brief note on 1964 excavations at site of Fort Ligonier; many features uncovered, including remains of the powder magazine; nearly 4000 artifacts under study by authors. http://www.liming.org/revlist/primary.html Grimm, Jacob L., Archaeological Investigation of Fort Ligonier, 1960-1965, Carnegie Museum, Pittsburgh, PA 1970. Author: Grimm, Jacob, 1785-1863. (Then from below, the Historic Pittsburgh Web site, the Digital Research Library) Title: Archaeological investigation of Fort Ligonier, 1960-1965, by Jacob L. Grimm. With an appendix, Animal remains from archaeological excavations at Fort Ligonier, by John E. Guilday. Alternate Titles: Annals of the Carnegie Museum v. 42. Imprint: Pittsburgh, Pa. [Carnegie Museum, 1970] Extent: 186 p. illus. 23 cm. F152 .G86 . Stacks 1-3, 5 Book http://digital.library.pitt.edu/hswp/browse/author_fileA.html http://digital.library.pitt.edu/hswp/browse/author_fileF.html As part of the Historic Pittsburgh Web site, the Digital Research Library provides a Web-based catalog for the Library and Archives of the Historical Society of Western Pennsylvania (HSWP). The Historical Society offers a non-circulating collection of materials documenting life in Western Pennsylvania. The Reading Room and collections are located at the Senator John Heinz Pittsburgh Regional History Center, 1212 Smallman Street, Pittsburgh, PA, 15222. First Presbyterian Church (Ligonier, Pa.) Fort Ligonier Association (Pa.) resulted in First Presbyterian Church (Ligonier, Pa.) Centennial history of the First Presbyterian Church : Ligonier, Penna. More Book Imprint: Ligonier, Pa. : the Church, 1917. Extent: 55 p. : ill. ; 23 cm. BX9211.L7 F5 . Stacks Book 2 matches. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- First Presbyterian Church (Ligonier, Pa.) Centennial history of the First Presbyterian Church : Ligonier, Penna. More Fort Ligonier Association (Pa.) Fort Ligonier Association newsletter. More Serial Author: First Presbyterian Church (Ligonier, Pa.) Title: Centennial history of the First Presbyterian Church : Ligonier, Penna. Imprint: Ligonier, Pa. : the Church, 1917. Extent: 55 p. : ill. ; 23 cm. BX9211.L7 F5 . Stacks Book Whitworth, Rex, 1916- Title: Field Marshal Lord Ligonier : a story of the British Army, 1702-1770. Imprint: Oxford : Clarendon Press, 1958. Extent: 422 p. : ill. ; 22 cm. DA67.1.L5 W45 . Stacks 1-3 DA67.1.L72 W62 . Stacks 1-3 Book James, Alfred Procter, 1886-1971. Fort Ligonier : additional light from unpublished documents / by Alfred P. James. More : James, Alfred Procter, 1886-1971. Title: Fort Ligonier : additional light from unpublished documents / by Alfred P. James. Imprint: Pittsburgh : Historical Society of Western Pennsylvania, 1934. Extent: 259-285 p. ; 25 cm. E199.J27 F736 . Stacks Book Sipe, C. Hale (Chester Hale), b. 1880 Fort Ligonier and its times : a history of the first English fort west of the Allegheny Mountains and an account of many thrilling, tragic, romantic, important but little known colonial and revolutionary events in the region where the winning of the West began ; based primarily on the Pennsylvania archives and colonial records / by C. Hale Sipe ; for schools, colleges, libraries and lovers of informative literature. Sipe, C. Hale (Chester Hale), b. 1880 Title: Fort Ligonier and its times : a history of the first English fort west of the Allegheny Mountains and an account of many thrilling, tragic, romantic, important but little known colonial and revolutionary events in the region where the winning of the West began ; based primarily on the Pennsylvania archives and colonial records / by C. Hale Sipe ; for schools, colleges, libraries and lovers of informative literature. Edition: 1st ed. Imprint: Harrisburg, Pa. : The Telegraph Press, 1932. Extent: xiii, 699 p., [19] p. of plates : ill. ; 21 cm. F149 .S61 . Stacks 1-7 Book Stotz, Charles Morse Title: Fort Ligonier, outpost of the French & Indian War, 1758-1766 ; a brief account of the Fort project / by Charles M. Stotz. Imprint: Ligonier, Pa. : Fort Ligonier Memorial Foundation, inc., 1967. Extent: 9 p. : ill. ; 26 cm. NA108.L726 S863 F736 . Stacks 1-8 Book Fort Ligonier material, 1758-1969 and inventory of the Constance Prosser Burrell Collection. Fort Ligonier material, 1758-1969 and inventory of the Constance Prosser Burrell Collection. Extent: .05 linear ft. MFF 0796 . Archives Collection -----Original Message----- From: Margaret Michenzi [mailto:mlm29@bellatlantic.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 8:23 PM To: Subject: [A-REV] THOMPSON;WILKINS:Lancaster Co.,PA Does anyone have knowledge of Thomas Wilkins and wife Mary who were attacked by indians near Ft. Ligonier in PA. Mary was taken captive by the Indians who may have killed her husband while scalping as was common to the area prior to 1776. She was later returned to Col. Henry Bouquet. The area is now Westmoreland County(1773) but was either Cumberland(1750) or Bedford( 1771). They had come from Lancaster County to homestead. Any comments appreciated. Peg ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Does anyone have knowledge of Thomas Wilkins and wife Mary who were attacked by indians near Ft. Ligonier in PA. Mary was taken captive by the Indians who may have killed her husband while scalping as was common to the area prior to 1776. She was later returned to Col. Henry Bouquet. The area is now Westmoreland County(1773) but was either Cumberland(1750) or Bedford( 1771). They had come from Lancaster County to homestead. Any comments appreciated. Peg

In order to prove my DAR lineage, I need copies of information. My 3rd great grandfather, EDWARD MILLS, was bp. 4 Apr 1747, m. Hannah Avery 24 Dec. 1772, and d. 7 Sept. 1781 at the Battle of Groton Heights, Fort Griswold, Groton, CT. I need copies of: MFIP (Mayflower in Progress) 2:240 Groton Avery Clan 298 Griswold Church Records 1:263 Copies must include the author, title, date of publication, edition, and page numbers. ANY information on JOHN MILLS, father of EDWARD MILLS, is very much needed. I have no information on him at all. Any help will be appreciated. Also, I will gladly pay for any expenses. Thank you. Emily

I purcahsed The CD-Rom Military Records: American Revolutionary War Muster Rolls from Ancestry.Com Here is my problem when I find the name I want Get Their name Rank and Company with a letter Roll Box with a number and Roll Rec Box with a number now is that all I get? and what is a Roll Box and Roll Rec Box Where can I find The Roll Box and Rec Box Number Oh I E-Mail them but I got not answer to my question HELP Ann

Diane, this is prepared by Dr. James Garner, I have the Garner-Keene Family of Northern Neck Virginia, you can get it by interlibrary loan through any library. This book most likely be in a University Library, this is where I found the copy. I copied off the whole book since they let you keep the book for 6 weeks. The reason I am sending you this it doc. you can see the records of the Mayflower that John Garner came on, I have the same records, in my files, I am working on my son's records for the Son's of the Rev. and the Founders and Patriots, my Garners come through Parish Garner, my mother was Velma Garner of Dacusville, Pickens, S.C. E-mail me at home and I can send more records to you, send me your e-mail address, if you like. This documents the records I have. Thanks, and glad to help you, Brenda Elaine McPherson Trotter Compton bmcpmppton@juno.com A GARNER GENEALOGY AND FAMILY HISTORY Prepared by: James Luther Garner, Ph. D. 1713 River Oaks Road Jacksonville, FL 32207 Telephone (904) 398-2967 home (904) 620-2743 office Fax (904) 620-3885 Email garnerjasl@aol.com or jgarner@unf.edu Homepage http://www.unf.edu/~jgarner This genealogy is listed on the internet on GENSERV as a GEDCOM file and on my homepage. April 2001 Richard Gardiner (May 29, 1592 England-c1648 St. Mary’s, MD) Or Thomas Garner Or Richard Garner m Elizabeth Hame (1595 England- ? St. Mary’s, MD) m Mary Lacye m Katharn? |???? _________________________________________| ???________________________________________________________ | | | | | | | Mary Richard Jone Elizabeth Luke Juliana John Garner (1633 England-1702 Va) Roger Bennett Richard Luslick Elizabeth Haddon m Susanna Keene (? Kent Isle, MD - c1716) | | | | | | | | | | | | John Henry Vincent Thomas Parish Benjamin James Mary Susan Martha Jane Joyce Catharine Bradley? Martha ? Mary Bushnell Elizabeth Parker (never married) Mary ? Will. Price Will. Lewis | | | | | | | | | John Thomas Vincent Parish Charles James Susanna Jane Bangar Mary ? Jemima Williams Margaret Sturdy Ann Darnell Elizabeth Freeman Thomas Seddon | | | | | | | | Joseph Jale Elizabeth Ann Charles Presley Sally (Sarah) Orr (Dodd) (never married) ? Robbins Jacob Burgess Hannah ? Margaret Hinson | | | | | | | | | Malinda Rosa Sophia Sally Gilford Joseph John A. Charles Burger ? Burger ? Goodwin ? White Sarah ? Lydia ? Elizabeth Tillison | | | | | | | Francis Marion William Adam John Anderson Molly E. Edythe Josephine Martha Ann Sharp Charlotte Lewis Sarah Sharp John Willie Sharp William Mark Harding | | | | | | | Mona Marion Harlan Wiley James Luther Dana (never married) Fannie Montez Marchbank Bess Marchbank (never married) Halley ? | ________________________________ |___________________________________________________________________ Cecil Leonard Imogene James Luther Duke Keith Ruby Tull Sammy Ollie Mae Lusk Eleanor ? Russell Gaines Sunshine Mick Sue Dison Willie Pearcy Speedy Walden MableVannoy Sonnie Poe | | | | | | | Joseph Marion Patricia Ann Sandra Lou Lelia Montez Connie Jay James Luther Pat Phillips Loren Leonberger 1. Larry Lawson Steve Brixie 1. Glenn Graves Carol Jean Murphey | | 2. Mark Nemeth | 2.Bill Bettcher | | | | | 3.Greg Goldcamp | | | | | | | Renee Born Vincent Gordon Lawson Steve Jennifer Katherine Murphey Jeannie Lampe Timothy Mark Nemeth Richard Shannon Graves Anne Randolph Joseph Scott Nemeth Debra Elizabeth Hoyman Gina INTRODUCTION The present genealogy makes extensive use of several sources: The Garner-Keene Families of the Northern Neck of Virginia by Ruth Ritchie and Sudie Rucker Wood [abbreviated GK] and Southern Garners by Sam Garner, MD [abbreviated SG]. GK was published in 1952 and SG was published in 1978 and updated in 1998. Another source for this work is Dunkin-Reid and Garner-McGraw-Mobley Families of South Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama by Dean Smith Cress [CRESS]. Janie Dooley [JD] also provided invaluable information in her entry F197 Garner Family in The Lafayette County Heritage, Mississippi (1986). Finally, I must acknowledge the helpful data given to me by my Aunt Gene Moore and Uncle Duke Garner taken from the family Bible records, [AGUD]. It would serve no useful purpose to repeat what has already been done at great length by these sources. Consequently, the focus here will be twofold: to give a capsule review of material in the above sources that is pertinent to this particular genealogy and secondly, to supplement the sources with additional information. It will be pointed out in the text whenever new material is given that is not found in the above sources. The present work is of much narrower focus than the GK and SG comprehensive accounts. Here the concern is with tracing the direct line of James Luther Garner (b.1917-d.1970). This paper follows an historical framework of the United States beginning with the Colonial period, followed by the Revolutionary War period, the Civil War period, and on into the Twentieth Century. A detailed list of references may be found at the end of this work. A summary of this genealogy is presented above without inclusion of dates for brevity. The names in bold are my direct ancestors. COLONIAL PERIOD One of the earliest recorded persons with surname Garner to come to the United States was Richard Gardiner (people used Garner, Gardner, Garnier, and Gardiner interchangeably back then because many were illiterate or were not that concerned about spelling.) Richard Gardiner came over on the Mayflower in 1620 [SMD] and he likely returned to England by 1624. He was fortunate because most people who came on the Mayflower died within a few years of arriving [BOORSTIN]. Another source on the early Garners is by Bean who says that a Garner was present in 1619 in the Isle of Wight County, Virginia [BEAN p.63, 74, and 149; GK p.1]. There were no Garners listed as passengers on the three ships that came to Virginia in 1607. The 1992 Supplement to [FILBY] lists immigrants named Clement Gardner (1619), James Gardner (1619), and John Gardner (1620). The Garners in America predate the Mayflower! The first person with which the present work is concerned is John Garner (b.1633-d.1702). John came to Northumberland County, Virginia in 1650 at the age of seventeen [GK p.1 and CHAPPELEAR p.98]. Greer [GREER p.124] has John Garner listed, as was pointed out by Ms. Ritchie. His transportation to Virginia was provided by Lewis Burwell [GK p.1 and NUGENT p. 199 and 315]. Lewis Burwell was responsible for bringing many people to Virginia [WERTENBAKER p.48 and 109] and he was the father of one of the leading colonial families of Virginia [WRIGHT p.56 and 112; VIRKUS p.736; MEYER p.144]. At that time a person was given a patent, which was a grant from the government of England, for fifty acres for each immigrant the person brought into the new colony [BOORSTIN p.100 ]. The land was given to the individual who provided the transportation not to the new immigrant. However, the new immigrant received land if he or she paid his or her own way [RITCHIE p. 68]. In many cases (about 3 out of 4) the new immigrant was an indentured servant [DABNEY p. 29, 31,33, and 34; ROBINSON p. 39] and this was possibly the case with John Garner. Note that an indentured servant could have been a "gentleman" in England [DABNEY p.34] and so this is not necessarily a negative term. On the other hand, some of the original immigrants were prisoners or orphans but it didn’t take much of an offense to be convicted [DABNEY p.21; BALLAGH p.34 and 35]. Indentured servants would have to work for four or five years to pay off the person who provided their transportation [BALLAGH p. 49 and 50]. They could have been given fifty acres of land as part of their contract but most had to buy their land [ROBINSON p. 37 and 38]. Apparently, John Garner came back again in 1654 since a Thomas Hobkins is listed as providing John’s transportation in that year [GK, p.1]. It is interesting that on both occasions, in 1650 and 1654, listed with John is a Thomas Broughton+. Thomas was to eventually become John’s father-in-law. Mary Keene, the mother of John’s future wife Susanna Keene, married Thomas Keene who was Susanna’s father. When Thomas Keene died, Mary married Henry Raynor. After Raynor died she finally married Thomas Broughton in 1658 [GK, p. 191]. Since John married Susanna in about 1660 it is possible that he met Susanna through his friendship with Thomas Broughton. Thomas Broughton was also quite active in transporting new colonists to Virginia [NUGENT p. 598]. According to [HISTORICAL ATLAS…] and [NUGENT, pg. 199 and pg. 315] Lewis Burwell on Oct. 17, 1650 transported into Northumberland County 32 persons for 1,600 acres of land adjacent to William Gooch and Richard Lee. Thomas Hobkins on Sept. 6, 1654 transported in 28 persons for 1,400 acres of land adjacent to William Mells and John Catlett. These are their names: Lewis Burwell 1650 Thomas Hobkins 1654 1. Thomas Wakin 1. William Wheeler 2. Sam Benford (or Beuford) 2. John Hallows* Eliz. Watley 3. John Tue* [GARDINER, p.xliv] John Jackson 4. William Freeke Negro Man 5. Robert Street Negro Man 6. Restitute Hollis, Sr. Negro Woman 7. Restitute Hollis, Junr. Geo. Epherby 8. John Knott Henry Wright 9. Edward Fryar Phan. Parney 10. Thomas Youle* Xtopr. Sadleway 11. Ann Yowell, Senr.* Sara Cowley 12. Ann Yowell, Junr.* Tho. Hardy 13. And. Munroe* Symon Varly 14. Thomas Yowell* Henry Sanderson 15. William Yowell* John Roggers 16. Tho. Broughton Eliz. Closby 17. Ann Williams Grigory Maine 18. Edward Dawson Edward Digby 19. John Garner Mary Farr 20. John Eaton Dyana Fryth 21. Geo. Eaton Samuell Moseley 22. John Ridly Eliz. Moseley 23. Rob. Burwell Jone Moseley his daughter 24. John Hooks Tho. Broughton 25. Peter Ward Ann Williams 26. Con. Gamberson Edw. Dawson 27. Nath. Winly John Garner 28. Harry Renn James Parney Assignee of A. Moon Tobyas Cowley Assignee of Mr. Hollis & John Eaton * came in from St. Mary's , MD + Among these lists there are four names in common: John Garner, Thomas Broughton, Ann Williams, and Edward Dawson GK lists the children of John Garner by his wife Susanna Keene (probably b. on Kent Island on the Potomac- d. c1716). GK reviews the history of land grants or purchases by John in addition to giving his will, but the location of his grave is not mentioned. According to GK John settled near present-day Lewisetta, Virginia west of Garner’s creek. Garner’s creek is no longer referred to by that name. Actually there are two Garner’s creeks- one is located adjacent to Cypress Farm which is near Lewisetta (see map) while the other one is near Kinsale. A short history of the latter body of water comes from [NORRIS p.68], "Gardner Creek was named for one of the Garner family who owned the Hurd grant of 500 acres on the north side of the creek for over 63 years. John Garner bought it in 1698. It then passed to his son, John, who willed it to his son, Abraham, in 1712, he then willing it to his daughter, Frances, in 1761. It was first known as Heards Creek (sometimes spelled Hurds) until at least the mid-18th century. Later, early in the 19th century, it was call Crab Creek (q.v.). The present spelling of the name appeared on charts in 1825, which is evidently a map maker’s error as the Garners did not use that spelling in their wills." In about 1672 they moved a short distance to Westmoreland county to near the present-day village of Kinsale. Tobacco was the main crop, it was lucrative as now [BOORSTIN p. 100], and was the currency at that time [DABNEY p. 25]. John Garner was not among the elite planters in 17th century Virginia by any stretch of the imagination but he was a landowner. (The Garner name was not listed among the top twenty leading planters in, e.g. , [WERTENBAKER p. 48 and 109] or [WRIGHT p.56 and 112].) As indicated, his land was initially in Northumberland County and later in Westmoreland County. Little of a personal nature is given by GK other than the fact that John lived by farming as practically everyone else did at that time. The early population of Virginia was incredibly small: VIRGINIA’S POPULATION IN THE 1600’s YEARPOPULATIONSOURCES 1609500Dabney, p.18 161060 or 210Dabney, p. 19; Serow, p. 4 1616351Dabney, p. 26 16192,500Dabney, p. 3 16202,400Serow, p. 4 16251,095Dabney, p. 39 16303,000 Serow, p. 4 16355,000Dabney, p. 42 16407,647Serow, p. 4 165017,000Serow, p. 4 166033,000Serow, p. 4 167140,000Dabney, p. 53 168049,000Serow, p. 4 169058,000Serow, p. 4 170072,000Serow, p. 4 John was a landowner and as a freeman he had voting rights [DABNEY p. 42 ]. Given the amount of land owned by John just before he died, over 2000 acres is a reasonable estimate given the numbers in his will, it is safe to assume that John was not a pauper. The Northern Neck of Virginia is known for several of its native sons including Presidents George Washington, James Madison, James Monroe and the famous Lee family [RITCHIE p. 68; NORRIS]. However, it is unlikely that John Garner was a "gentleman" which is no insult because this word had a special meaning at that time [WRIGHT]. An omission in the exhaustive study of Garner genealogy by GK is the origin of John Garner, who were his parents and where did they come from? GK were certainly aware of this omission and said they did not know where John Garner came from but thought England to be almost certainly the country of his origin. In early Virginia, as opposed to Massachusetts, the immigrants that populated a given county of Virginia tended to come from the same area of England [RITCHIE p. 68]. The International Genealogical Index of the LDS church lists four John Garners christened in England in 1634. One of these four John Garners was born in Kent, England with parents Thomas Garner and Mary Lacye. According to [SG private communication] Mrs. Wilbur C. Garner (Gwendoline), 3800 Elmscroft Road, Randallstown, Maryland 21133, visited England in 1989 and found the "Register Books of Christeninges Marriages and Burialls in Saint Dunstan, Canterbury 1559-1800" Edited by J. Meadows Cowper where it stated that Thomas [b. about 1610 Kent] and Mary Lacye [b. about 1613 in Kent] were married 24 October 1631, Canterbury, Parish of Saint Dunstan. This information is also in the IGI. Thomas and Mary had a son, John Garner, who was christened 4 May 1634, Canterbury, St. Dunstan. [ St. Dunstan church is an old and famous parish church of Canterbury Cathedral; most famous for being the church where Thomas More was a member in the late Middle Ages before the Reformation.] A 22 year old Thomas Gardner is listed as coming to Virginia August 10, 1635 on the ship, Safety (Captain John Graunt) [HOTTEN p. 123]. Perhaps this was John’s father? A more plausible possibility is found in [GREER p.123] where in 1650, the same year that John Garner was transported to Northumberland County, a Thomas Gardner came to Northumberland County, transported in by Mrs. Frances Townshend and the same year a Mary Gardner was transported in by Ralph Green but the county is not named. These could have been husband and wife since it was possible to have a different person pay for the transport of husband, wife, and children. ([GREER p. 190] lists in 1653 the Keene family acquired land in Northumberland County. That year Col. William Clayborne transported Thomas Keene in, Thomas Keene transported in his wife, Mary , and son William but a Jervais Dodson transported in Susan Keene.) Additional credence to the theory that John Garner’s parents were Thomas Garner and Mary Lacye is John named one of his seven sons Thomas and one of his three daughters Mary (the second daughter was named Susan after Susanna Keene and Martha was the name of the third daughter). However, it is also possible that the daughter Mary was named after her grandmother, Mary Keene and the son Thomas was named after his grandfather. At this time I do not believe there is sufficient evidence to prove these were John’s parents. Among the four John Garners born in 1633 England there was a John Garner who was christened 2 September, 1634 at Saint Chad, Shrewsbury, England which is in the Shropshire County. This city is in west central England near to Wales. His parents were Richard Garner and Katharn ? This is the only information I have about this family. Finally, another possibility exists and this option seems the most likely to me, although there is still room for doubt. According to [GARDINER], [SKORDAS, pp175-176] and LDS records, a family of Gardiners came into Maryland in 1637. The parents’ names were Richard Gardiner (b. 1590 in England-d. c. 1648 St. Mary’s, MD) who in 1614 in England married Elizabeth Hame (b. 1595 in England-d.? St. Mary’s, MD). They arrived in St. Marys MD in 1637. They had children all of whom were born in England, Mary (b. 1615 in Surrey ENG- d. after 1693 in Oxfordshire ENG) who stayed in England, Richard (b. 1616 in Surrey ENG­ d. 1693 in Mechanicsville, St. Marys, Oakley MD), Jone (b. 1617 in Surrey ENG-d. ? in Oxfordshire ENG) who stayed in England, Elizabeth (b. 1618 in Surrey ENG -d.c. 1642 St. Marys MD), Luke (b. 1622 in Oxfordshire ENG- d. 1674 St. Mary’s, MD), Juliana (b. 1630 in - d.?) and John? (b. 1633 in Surrey ENG­ d. ?). These Garner’s were concentrated in St. Mary’s, Maryland, which is immediately across the Potomic River from Lewisetta, Virginia. St. Mary’s is the oldest settlement in MD. The LDS records point out that Luke married in 1649 in St. Mary’s, MD an Elizabeth Hatton (b. 1/1/1663 in London ­ d. abt.1702 in MD). Elizabeth Hatton’s father, Richard (born in Shropshire, England) and mother, Margaret, were landowners in the Northern Neck as late as 1652. Luke's son, Richard Gardiner , whose house the White House was copied from, married Virginian Elizabeth Wiere, daughter of John Wiere and Honoria Jones, of Rappahannock Cty. Garner’s were present in abundance in St. Mary’s through the years. Recall, Thomas Keene, Susannah’s father, also lived in St. Mary’s. According to an article in [Bull. Northumb. C. Hist. Soc., 1998, page 30] as well as [Hist. Atlas Westm. C.] many of the original inhabitants of both Northumberland and Westmoreland Counties came over from St. Mary's MD. In addition, we know from [GARDINER, pg. 30] that Luke Gardiner, his sister Juliana Gardiner , and possibly his brother John (our John?) traveled from St. Mary's to Virginia to avoid Richard Ingle's raids on St. Mary's in summer 1645. It is probable that Richard and Elizabeth died at the hands of Ingle since there are no records of them after 1645 and we know that St. Richard's Manor was sacked by Ingle. The daughter Elizabeth and her husband Richard Luslick also have no records after 1642, so they were likely dead. Luke and Juliana returned to St. Marys in 1647 with Leonard Calvert but no mention is made of John. Did John stay behind? Is this our John? Looking back a couple pages, you will notice quite a number of the 1654 patentees of Mr. Hobkins came over from St. Marys, MD. On the basis of all this evidence it would not be too far-fetched if John Gardiner is our John Garner. However, a point against this John being our John is that none of John's children bear names of Richard or Luke or Elizabeth. Also, there are no records of our John ever having contacts in MD. One explanation could be, the MD Gardiners were Catholic's and our John was a member of the Church of England, as were the Keene's. In addition, most of John Gardiner's family would have been dead by the time he settled in VA circa 1650. These pieces of evidence are interesting, but still more data needs to be found to conclusively prove John Gardiner is our John Garner. Additional details (e.g. passenger lists for ships bound for America) still need to be sought out. Now let us really speculate. I wonder if this Richard Gardiner of MD is somehow related to the Richard Gardiner who came alone over on the Mayflower to Plymouth in 1620? The Richard at Plymouth left Plymouth between 1624 and June 1, 1627 and never returned to Plymouth. His parents were John and Lucy (Russell) Gardiner from Harwich, County Essex. This information is from [SMD]. [GARDINER, pg.xli] also considered this possible connection but was not able to prove anything. All of this comes down to, we still are not absolutely positive who John Garner's parents were and there is a chance we may never know for sure. GK lists the children of Thomas Garner (abt 1655-d.1726) who married Mary Bushnell. Thomas settled in 1700 in Stafford County, Virginia. Thomas Gardner is listed as patenting 625 acres on Tinpot Run and Licking Run in Fauquier County in 1725 [F p.23 and GK p. 65]. GK lists the children of Thomas and his will [GK p. 66-67]. Also, the bulk of GK’s book is devoted to the chapter on Thomas. REVOLUTIONARY WAR PERIOD GK lists the children of Thomas and their dates on p.67. The child of Thomas Garner of primary interest here is Charles Garner (? -1798) who married c1746 Ann Darnell the daughter of Waugh Darnell and widow of Jonas Williams. Charles lived many years in Fauquier county where he died in 1798. The reference [F p. 171] lists Charles Garner as a member of the Militia but Ms. Ritchie believed that this Charles was a nephew of Charles [RITCHIE p. 78]. A record involving a sale of 60 acres of land to John Wright in 1748 by Charles and Ann Garner of Prince William county is recorded in [TQH p. 229-230 and GK p. 108]. Charles sued his brothers to recover his share of the children of a slave sold in 1732 [GK p. 108]. There is no evidence that Charles fought in the Revolutionary War but his son Charles did [GWATHMEY p. 298; STEWART entry 245; WHITE p. 1314]. GK lists other land records and on p.108 GK lists the children of Charles. The child of Charles Garner of primary interest here is Joseph Garner (b.1753 in Fauquier County, Virginia- d. December, 20, 1840 in Cherokee County, Alabama) who married December 22, 1790 in Fauquier County, Virginia Sally (Sarah) Orr (Dodd). According to p. 109 in GK, in 1797 Joseph lived in Culpeper, Virginia, where he was paying on 286 acres of land formerly owned by a Hisle and he paid on this land for five years. GK states that in 1789 Joseph was 36 years old, he had been wounded in the arm as a private in the 1st Virginia Regiment, and his pay was 24 pounds per annum. According to [REV p. 45], Joseph enlisted in the 1st VA Regiment on 5 September 1775 and he was wounded the next spring at Williamsburg. Also, Henrico Co. depositions 5 September, 1791 by Col. Martin Pickett states that he had lost or mislaid Gardner’s pension certificate, signed by J. Pendleton. There is more evidence that Joseph Garner served during the Revolutionary War. He enlisted in Fauquier County, Virginia, served in Capt. William Blackwell’s Co., and in Cols. Daniel Morgan’s VA. Regt. [JULICH p.223]. He was given a pension on application in Clarke County, Georgia. His widow, Sarah, was given a pension on her application that was applied for October 13, 1842 at which time she was aged 68 and a resident of Cherokee County, Alabama (Pension No. W7496) [JULICH p.224]. A Sarah Garner , born in VA, is listed as a resident (80 years old) of Cherokee County, Alabama in 1850 [CHEROKEE p.14]. Furthermore, [JULICH p. 224] states that Joseph moved from Fauquier County, Virginia in 1802 to Georgia and in 1815 he was a resident of Clarke County, Georgia. In 1818 he was 64 years old and still a resident of Clarke County. In 1820, he moved to Alabama and lived there for some time in Saint Clair County. The children of Joseph and Sarah are also listed in JULICH and by [SG p. 128]: Malinda Burger, Rosa Burger, Sophia Goodwin, Sally White, Gilford, Joseph, John Other references that confirm the above sources on Joseph’s war record and family include: [GANRUD p. 90-93] which states that Joseph said he enlisted in 1774/5 under Capt. William Blackwell in the 7th Virginia Regiment and that John Marshall was the 1st Lieut. (later Supreme Court Chief Justice). He served the entire enlistment. He was paid 10 lbs. per annum as a pensioner. Thomas Page and John Marshall confirmed Joseph’s service record in a letter in 1819. The census record of Alabama for the year 1850, Cherokee County, 27th District, Family #1083 shows the children of Joseph including John and his, mother, wife and children, Gilford, and Joseph. In addition, this source quotes an article in the "Tuscaloosa News", Feb. 16, 1976 entitled "Cemetery out of People’s Mind", Gadsden, Alabama. Joseph Garner is buried in the "Garner cemetery" in North Gadsden and his marker reads, " Joseph Garner, Sgt. 15 Va Regt. Rev. War, 1754-1840". The cemetery dates to the early 1800s. Some of the above information is also in [WHITE p. 1314]. SG also includes several references on the Joseph Garner line [SG p. 129], e.g. an article in the "Gadsden Times" from 19 March, 1978 is mentioned. See also Appendix 1 where an article is reproduced from the magazine, Family Puzzlers, No. 568, Sept. 7, 1978 pp 4-5. Among other things, this article gives the detailed location of Joseph Garner’s grave, which is on the Alabama Register of Landmarks and Heritage. This same article states that Joseph "was wounded at Brandywine [this was at that time in VA, now it is in WVA], fought at Valley Forge, and was discharged at White Plains, NY." [DAR1 p. 81] and [DAR2 p. 1127] lists Joseph Garner (1754-12/20/1840 AL) m Sarah Orr and was a private in VA in the Rev. War. See also, [STEWART, entry 245]. [GWATHMEY p. 298] lists Joseph Garner as a Sgt. in the 10,11,11, and 15 continental lines during the Revolutionary War. [BRUMBAUGH p. 438] lists Joseph Garner as a VA Sgt. who served 3 years in the Rev. War. [OWEN p. 41] lists Joseph as a private in the Virginia Continental Line and pensioner of Rev. War. [VA LINE] lists Joseph in 1835 as a sergeant in the Va Line infantry who had not received bounty land. It seems there is a bit of confusion regarding Joseph’s rank, private or sergeant? The period 1802-1820 when Joseph was in Georgia is a period when many Garners migrated to Georgia [CRESS]. CIVIL WAR PERIOD The child of Joseph Garner of primary interest in this work is John A. Garner (b.3/15/1815-d. c1870 in Pontontoc, Mississippi near Oxford). John was born in Clarke County, Georgia, his wife’s name was Elizabeth (age 22 in 1850 and born in Tennessee), and the 1850 Alabama census of Cherokee County gave their children, Francis (age 6, born in AL), William(age 4, born in AL), and Elizabeth (age 1, born in AL) according to [GANDRUD p.92]. John’s eighty year old mother, Sarah (born in VA), was living with them in 1850. [SG p. 128 and the Family Puzzlers article mentioned above] indicates that John married Elizabeth Tillison, daughter of Spenser Tillison, in 1844. Additional information about John’s family is found in [JD] where it is stated that John was born 3/15/1815 and his wife Elizabeth was born May, 1829. John got around! He was born in Georgia, lived most of his life in Northern Alabama, moved to Mississippi shortly after the Civil War (as evidenced by the birthplace of his children), and he died in Mississippi. Near the end of John’s life he lived in Toccopola, Mississippi where he taught in the high school and Elizabeth ran a boarding house. Their children are listed in [JD] Francis Marion, William Adam, John Anderson, Molly E., and Edythe Josephine. Francis Marion married Martha Ann Sharp (see below for more information on my great grandfather). William Adam married Charlotte Lewis and this is the line of central focus in JD’s short note. John Anderson married Sarah Sharp, Molly E. married John Willie Sharp, and Edythe Josephine married William Mark Harding. No dates are given on these individuals. Both John Garner and his son Francis Marion Garner served during the Civil War. According to Civil War pension records [WILTSHIRE p. 312] they were from Lafayette County, Mississippi and served in the 31st Alabama infantry. A pension was given to Elizabeth, whose husband was John A. Garner, in 1900. A pension was given to F. M. Garner who served in the 31st Alabama and was from Lafayette County, Mississippi in 1916 and his widow, M. A. Garner was pensioned in 1917 and again in 1924. She was listed as living in Lafayette County both in 1917 and in 1924. Both F. M. Garner and J. A. Garner are listed as Confederate soldiers serving in the AL 31st infantry, company A in [HEWETT p.218 and p. 219]. According to [CRUTE p. 23] the AL 31st infantry was organized in Talladega, AL in April, 1862. It recruited in several counties including Cherokee County, the residence of John and Francis Marion Garner. The 31st saw action at Cumberland Gap, Tazewell and was captured during the famous long siege of Vicksburg. It was reorganized and saw action at Chattanooga and Atlanta. Colonel Daniel R. Hundley, Lieutenant Colonel Thomas M. Arrington, and Major George W. Mattison commanded the 31st. A more detailed accounting of the 31st whereabouts is listed in [SIFAKIS p. 99] and [CMH, p. 154-156]. POST CIVIL WAR AND THE TWENTIETH CENTURY According to family Bible records [AGUD], John A. Garner dates were: b. 3/15/1815- d. c1870, in agreement with the above sources. He is buried in the Pontocola Cemetery which is between Pontotoc and Toccopola, Mississippi. These are in Lafayette County near Oxford, Mississippi. Confirming the above, the Bible records state that John moved from Georgia to Alabama before coming to Mississippi. Elizabeth Garner, his wife, was originally Elizabeth Tillison, b. 5/18/1829 in Tennessee. Her father may have been born in Kentucky and her mother may have been born in North Carolina. Elizabeth was living in Lafayette County in 1900 with her son-in-law J. W. Sharp. All the children of John A. Garner were born in Alabama except the last one who was born in Mississippi. From these Bible records we have for John’s children (which is consistent with [JD]), Francis Marion (b. 7/5/1845 Gadsden, AL- d. 12/14/1916 in Webb cemetery near Tula, MS and see below); William Adam "Add" Garner (b. 8/18/1847 in Gadsden, AL-d.?) married 6/27/1868 Charlotte Lewis; John Anderson (b.1858 in AL-d.?) married 4/4/1880 Sarah Sharp; Molly E. (b. 1861 in AL-d. 1945 in Tula Cemetry, MS) married 12/12/1878 John Willie Sharp; and Edythe Josephine (b. 9/1867 in MS- d. 1923/4 in MS) married 1890 William Mark Harding. The rest of the material in this genealogy is from the AGUD family Bible or from my own knowledge of my immediate family. My great grandfather was Francis Marion Garner (listed above) who married (11/14/1876, see the copy of the certificate in the appendix) in Huntsville, Alabama Martha Ann Sharp (b. 9/18/1857 in Huntsville, Alabama-d?). Martha Ann was the daughter of John Sharp and Martha Ann Ward. Francis Marion Garner was wounded in the Civil War and as already noted, he served with his father in the AL 31st infantry. Francis Marion and Martha Ann Sharp had issue: Mona who never married, Marion Harlan (see below), Wiley who married Bess Marchbank, James Luther (b. 6/8/1882-d. 11/12/04) , red headed, who never married and died at age 22, and Dana who married Halley? . My grandfather, Marion Harlan Garner (b. 3/9/1880 in Oxford, MS- d. 7/1/1967 in Blytheville, Arkansas) was a farmer. He married 11/19/1906 in Tula, Mississippi Fannie Montez Marchbank (b. 11/15/1889 in Sulligent, Alabama-d. 5/21/1944 in Charter Oak, Missouri). Marion Harlan and Fannie Montez lived in Potlocna, Mississippi (5 miles SE of Oxford) but left Yocona, Mississippi in September, 1922 to move to Arkansas, near Blytheville. A colorful account of this journey was written by my Aunt Gene Garner, see APPENDIX II. Fannie Montez Marchbank’s parents were John Erwin Marchbank (b. 12/12/1851 in Crews, Alabama-d.?) and Susan Emmaline May (b.6/2/1854 in Birmingham, Alabama-d.?) and they married in 1888 in Sulligent, AL. John Erwin Marchbank’s mother was Emiline Bankhead (b. 1832 in AL) who was a cousin of some sort to Tallulah Bankhead, the actress from Alabama.. John Erwin’s father was Baily Marchbank (b.1831 in AL ) who married Emiline in 1850 in Crews, AL. Tallulah was the granddaughter of the US Senator , John Hollis Bankhead from northern Alabama, and she was the daughter of the AL US Congressman, William Brockmon Bankhead. A copy of Fannie Montez’s obituary is given in APPENDIX III. Marion Harlan Garner and Fannie Montez Marchbank had issue: Cecil (b. 8/13/1907-d. 1968) married Ollie Mae Lusk; Leonard Garner (b. 1909-d. 1966) married Eleanor ?; Imogene(b. 11/26/1911) married Russell Gaines (b.?-d. 1968); James Luther (see below); Duke (b. 8/13/1915) married Sue Dison (b. 11/16/1917-d. 12/19/1973); Keith (b. 8/31/1919-d. 1967) married Willie Pearcy; Ruby (b. 11/16/1917) married Speedy Walden; Tull (b. 5/20/1921) married Mable Vannoy; and Sammy (b. 1931) married Sonnie Poe. Marion Harlan and some of the family moved from Blytheville, Arkansas in 1943 to pursue better farming land in Charter Oak, Missouri (in the "boothill"). My father, James Luther Garner (b. 6/25/1913 in Oxford, Mississippi-d. 7/4/1970 in Vermilion, Ohio) married my mother, Sunshine Mick (b. 3/24/1916 in Blytheville, Arkansas) in 1932 in Blytheville, Arkansas. James Luther was a farmer and truck driver. In 1959 the immediate family of James Luther moved with him to Vermilion in northeastern Ohio. James Luther Garner and Sunshine Mick had issue: Joseph Marion, Patricia Ann, Sandra Lou, Lelia Montez, Connie Jay, and James Luther Garner Joseph Marion (b. 7/24/1935 in Arkansas) married Pat Phillips (b. 2/1939) and had issue: Linda Renee (b. 9/3/1958) who married Ray Born, Jeannie (b. 12/26/1959) who married Ed Lampe, Joseph (b. 6/1/1961 in Ohio) who married ?, and Elizabeth (b. 6/20/1963 in Ohio) who married ?. Patricia Ann (b. 3/18/1939 in Arkansas) married Loren Leonberger and had issue: Vincent Bruce Leonberger (b. 12/28/1955 in Missouri) who married Roberta ? and Timothy Scott Leonberger (b. 9/3/1960 in Missouri), single. Sandra Lou (b. 5/31/1941 in Missouri- d. Jan., 1998 in Ohio) married Larry Lawson then Mark Nemeth. Her children are: Gordon Lawson (b. 9/30/1959 in Missouri) who married Tonya ?, Mark Nemeth (b. 10/12/1960 in Ohio) who married ?, Walter Scott Nemeth (b. 12/20/1964 in Ohio) who married ? Lugley, and Gena Nemeth (b. 9/23/1970 in Ohio) who married ?. Lelia Montez (b. 7/26/1944 in Missouri-d. 8/19/1977 in Vermilion, Ohio) married Steve Brixie (b. in Arkansas) and had issue: Steven Harlan Brixie (b. 10/31/1961) who married ?, Richard Dudley Brixie (b. 6/3/1963), single, and Debra Brixie (b. 12/13/1965) who married ?. Connie Jay (b. 12/18/1952 in Missouri) married Glenn Graves, then William Bettcher, and then Greg Goldcamp. Her children are: Jennifer Graves (b. 4/23/1969 in Amherst, Ohio) and Shannon Glenn Bettcher (b. 11/15/1972 in Ohio). James Luther Garner (b. 7/27/1955 in Poplar Bluff, Missouri) married 6/1/1991 in Harrisonburg, Virginia Carol Jean Murphey (b. 7/5/1956 in Warrenton, Virginia) and had issue: Katherine Murphey Garner (b. 7/2/1993 in Peoria, Illinois) and Anne Randolph Garner (b. 5/10/1996 in Jacksonville, Florida). James is a physics professor at the University of North Florida in Jacksonville and Carol is a nursing professor at Jacksonville University. James received a Ph.D. in physics from Ohio State University and Carol received a Ed.D. from the University of North Carolina REFERENCES AGUD Family Bible records of my Aunt Gene and Uncle Duke Garner (unpublished). BALLAGH White Servitude in the Colony of Virginia , James Curtis Ballagh (Burt Franklin, New York, 1895, reprinted 1969). BEAN The Peopling of Virginia, R. Bennett Bean (Chapman&Grimes, Boston, 1938). BOORSTIN The Americans: The Colonial Experience, Daniel J. Boorstin (Vintage Books, New York, 1958). This is an excellent source for background material about the colonists both in Virginia and in Plymouth. BRUMGAUGH Revolutionary War Records Vol. I, Virginia (Washington D.C., 1936). BRUMBAUGH Revolutionary War Records, Vol. I, Virginia, George Marcus Brumbaugh (Lancaster Press, Lancaster, PA, 1936). BULLETIN OF THE NORTHUMBERLAND COUNTY HISTORICAL SOCIETY (VOL. XXXV, 1998). CHAPPELEAR Families of Virginia, George Warren Chappelear (Shenandoah Press, 1932). CHEROKEE Cherokee County History 1836-1956 Vol I (Centre, Alabama). CMH Confederate Military History Extended Edition (Broadfoot Publishing Co., Wilmington, NC, 1987). CRESS Dunkin-Reid and Garner-McGraw-Mobley Families of South Carolina, Georgia, and Alabama, Dean Smith Cress (Athens, Georgia, c1988). CRUTE Units of the Confederate States Army, Joseph H. Crute, Jr. (Old Soldiers Books, Gaithersburg, MD, 1987). DABNEY Virginia, The New Dominion, Virginius Dabney (University Press of Virginia, Charlottesville, 1971). DAR1 DAR Patriot Index, Vol. II, Washington, 1979. DAR2 DAR Patriot Index Centennial Edition Part II, Washington, 1990. F Fauquier County, Virginia 1759-1959 (Fauquier County Bicentennial Committee, Warrenton, Virginia, 1959). FILBY Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, P. William Filby (First Edition,Volume 1, Gale Research Company, Detroit, Michigan, 1982/3). GARDINER by Thomas Richard Gardiner, (1991). This two-volume geneaology was found in the St. Marys Historical Society Museum in Leanardtown, MD. GANDRUD Alabama Soldiers (Revolution, War of 1812, and Indian Wars) Vol. 8, Pauline Jones Gandrud (NCR, 1984). GK Garner-Keene Families of Northern Neck of Virginia, Ruth Ritchie and Sudie Rucker Wood (1952, Charlottesville, Virginia). GREER 1623-1666 Early Virginia Immigrants, George Cabell Greer (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1960). GWATHMEY Historical Register of Virginians in the Revolution, John H. Gwathmey (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1987). HEWETT The Roster of Confederate Soldiers 1861-1865, Janet B. Hewett (Broadfoot Publishing Company, Wilmington, NC, 1996). HISTORICAL ATLAS OF WESTMORELAND COUNTY by Eaton , Dietz Press, Richmond, 1942. HOTTEN The Original Lists of Persons of Quality, John Camden Hotten (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1962). JD F197 Garner Family in The Lafayette County Heritage, Janie Dooley (Oxford, Mississippi, 1986). I found this in the "Garner Library" at Ole Miss. JULICH Roster of Revolutionary Soldiers and Patriots in Alabama, Louise Milam Julich (Alabama Society of DAR, 1979). MCGAHA Garner-Boggs and Related Families, Stanley A. McGaha. MEYER Adventures of Purse and Person VIRGINIA 1607-1624/5, Virginia M. Meyer and John Frederick Dorman (Order of First Families of Virginia, 1987, 3rd Edition). NORRIS Westmoreland County Virginia, Ed. Walter Biscoe Norris, Jr. (Westmoreland County Board of Supervisors, Montross, VA, 1983). NUGENT Cavaliers and Pioneers, Abstracts of Virginia Land Patents and Grants, 1623-1666, Nell Marion Nugent (Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1969) Vol. One. This provides a list of those who came to Virginia with John Garner OWEN Revolutionary Soldiers in Alabama, Thomas W. Owen (Brown Printing Co., Montgomery, Alabama). REV Virginia Revolutionary War State Pensions, (Virginia Genealogical Society, Special Publication No. 7, 1960). RITCHIE Genealogy of Some East Tennessee Families of the Early Nineteenth Century, Ruth Ritchie (in the University of Virginia Archives). ROBINSON Land Grants In Virginia 1607-1699 , W. Stitt Robinson, Jr. (VA 350th Anniversary Celebration Committee, Williamsburg, VA 1957). SEROW The Population of Virginia: Past, Present, and Future, William J. Serow (University Press of Virginia, Charlottesville, 1978). SG Southern Garners, Sam Garner, MD (1978, Rome, Georgia, second edition, 1998). SIFAKIS Compendium of Confederate Armies: Alabama, Stewart Sifakis (Facts on File, New York, 1992). SKORDAS The Early Settlers of Maryland, Gust Skordas (Geneaological Publishing Co., 1979). SMD The Society of Mayflower Descendants STEWART Gone to Georgia, William C. Stewart (National Genealogical Society, Washington, D.C.,1965). TQH Tyler’s Quarterly Historical and Genealogical Magazine, Lyon G. Tyler, ED. (Vol IV, No.3, 1923). VA LINE A List of Non-Commissioned Officers and Soldiers of the VA Line (Doc. No. 44, Richmond 1835). VIRKUS The Compendium of American Genealogy, Frederick Adams Virkus, Ed., (The Virkus Company, Chicago, 1930) Vol. IV. WERTENBAKER The Planters of Colonial Virginia, Thomas Jefferson Wertenbaker (Princeton University Press, 1922). WHITE Genealogical Abstracts of Revolutionary War Pension Files, Virgil D. White, Vol. II:F-M (National Historical Publishing Company, Waynesboro, Tennessee, 1991). WILTSHIRE Mississippi Department of Archives and History, Betty C. Wiltshire (Pioneer Publishing Co., Carrollton, Mississippi). WRIGHT The First Gentlemen of Virginia, Louis Booker Wright (Huntington Library, San Marino, California, 1940). APPENDIX I Gadsden Landmark Article from Family Puzzlers, No. 568, 9/7/1978. Photograph of Joseph Garner’s tombstone. APPENDIX II Photograph of the marriage certificate of Francis Marion Garner and Martha Ann Sharp. APPENDIX III Roster of graves at the Webb Cemetery in "Potlocna" (near Oxford) Mississippi and photographs of Francis Marion Garner’s and his son, James L. Garner’s tombstone. APPENDIX IV Aunt Imogene "Gene" Moore (Garner) Account of the Travel of The Marion Harlan Garner Family From Mississippi to Arkansas in 1922. APPENDIX V Obituary of Fannie Montez Marchbank.

Diane, send me you e--mail address and I will send you information .[ John Garner] Brenda Compton bmcomppton@juno.com

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Hello List, Henry Garner/Gardner, died in 1811 in the Pendleton Dist SC born about 1740 in Westmoreland County VA. Do not know his company . If some could find him as taking the Allegiance/Fidelity Oath Spouse would be Mary? {Henry is from the John Garner line who came over on the Mayflower.} He lived in Randolph, County, N.C. before moving to Pendleton, Dist. Picens and died in Librerty, Pickend Co.S.C. and is buried in the Garner Boggs cemm. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Brenda bmcomppton@juno.com

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GREATER BOSTON MONUMENTS DORCHESTER HEIGHTS MEMORIAL G Street South Boston On March 17, 1776 American colonists compelled the British to evacuate Boston Harbor by aiming cannons on the British fleet from the highest hill in Boston, Dorchester Heights. The Irish played a significant role in the confrontation. Major General Henry Knox, whose parents came from Ireland, delivered the cannons from Fort Ticonderoga in time for the show of force. Dubliner James Boies set up the fortification on Dorchester Heights. General John Sullivan was appointed by George Washington to be officer of the day. The password that day was Boston, the countersign St. Patrick. The show of force that compelled the evacuation of Boston on March 20 was a turning point in the war. The Dorchester Heights Memorial was dedicated in 1902 and is managed by the National Park Service. A Plaque at the entrance reads "As the final act of an eleven month siege, the Continental Army occupied these heights and forced the evacuation of British troops from Boston on March 17, 1776 - General George Washington's first victory in the American Revolution." http://www.irishheritagetrail.com/dothimemorial.html

http://www.uscg.mil/hq/reserve/magazine/mag1999/sep1999/Testament.htm <A HREF="http://www.uscg.mil/hq/reserve/magazine/mag1999/sep1999/Testament.htm"> Testament to the Reserve</A> I know I am downloading this goody

Privates PATRICK GRAY, JAMES HALL & THOMAS SMITH, 4th Regiment Concord, Mass. <A HREF="http://www.silverwhistle.free-online.co.uk/lobsters/gray_hall_smith.html ">Privates Gray, Hall and Smith</A> Click the "Roll of Honor" at the bottom of the page

Brenda, Sorry, but you won't find what you'd like to find. Passenger lists for British transport ships simply can not be found today. There was no requirement to submit them to the government as as all the ships were leased, it is something kept by the lessor so anythin preserved would be in private papers. There were two convoys which sailed from Cork around 6 April 1776 1/-- HMS Greyhound (28) with 10 sail for Boston. "Officially" sailed 5 April. 2/-- HMS Caryfort (28) & HMS Pearl (32) with 41 sail (or so) for Quebec. "Officially" sailed 8 April. Dates are precise but only when one understands the calendar in use because there is half-day difference between the sea calendar and the civil or land calendar. The sea calendar starts at noon and the civil calendar at midnight, 12 hours later. This means a landsman reporting a morning sailing on 6 April is the same the ship's log (sea calendar) recording sailing in the second half (morning) of 5 April. "Official" sailing dates always follow the date of embarkation and frequently predate physical departure from the inner harbor. I don't know exactly where they embarked but I suspect it was nearer Cobh (Queenstown) rather than all the way into Corcaigh (Cork). 1/-- SUMMARY HMS Greyhound was a a newly commissioned (21 Oct 1775) 6th Rate (28 gun/200 men) frigate. She sailed 11 Mar from Spithead to Cork but she put in at Plymouth where she departed 21 Mar 1776 and arrived at Cork on 23 Mar 1776. Greyhound "officially" sailed from Cork with her convoy for Boston on April 5th. Off course Boston had been evacuated before Greyhound's departure. Greyhound somehow heard of the evacuation and diverted to Halifax where she arrived the morning of 16 May. [London Gazette, issue of 13-16 April 1776] "Extract of a letter from Corke, April 6 . . . This day sailed from hence his Majesty's ship Grayhound, Capt. Dickson, with ten store ships, and vicuallers under her convoy, with troops, stores, &c., for Boston. Wind N.E." The vessels which sailed under the convoy of the Greyhound included: Ordnance Storeships: Elizabeth [John Toone, master] Russian Merchant Charming Sally Hope [Alexander Lumsdale, master, ----- Mather, owner, captured by Americans] Army Victuallers Waters Mars Sally Bell Howe with Naval Provisions Levant The above comes from an enclosure to a letter dated 18 April 1776 sent by First Secretary of the Admiralty Philip Stephens to Vice Admiral Molyneux Shuldham via HM Armed Vessel Canceaux. [Ref: UK/PRO, ADM2/551, f.457-65] The Hope, Ordnance storeship, was captured 17 May 1776 by Washington's schooner Franklin, Captain John Mugford. It was reported: ". . . She came out the fourth of April with nine Sail of transports, under convoy of a Frigate; I cannot learn any important intelligence by her; the Master says there are but about one hundred Soldiers on board these transports, and that they are laden with provision and warlike stores for the Kings Troops. . . ." [MGen Artemas Ward to G. Washington, 17 May 1776, Wahington Papers, Library of Congress] If John Joyce was in this convoy, he fit into one of three categories: (1) navy personel [Greyhound], (2) army personal [one of the 100 recruits set out], or (3) civilian [seaman or supercargo on one of the transports]. If Army personel, the he would have been assigned to one of the regiments stationed at Boston. In July 1775, those troops included: 1st Brigade: BGen Earl Percy 23rd, 59th, 44th and 4th 2nd Brigade: BGen Robertson 5th, 45th, 63rd, 35th 3rd Brigade: BGen Pigott 38th, 1st Bn Marines, 47th and 10th 4th Brigade: BGen Jones 18th, 65th, 49th, 2nd Bn Marines, 40th. 5th Brigade: BGen Grant 3rd Bn Artiullery, 43rd, 52nd & 22nd 2/-- SUMMARY HMS Caryfort, Captain Robert Fanshaw, was a 6th Rate (28 gun/200 men) frigate commisioned 13 Mar 1775. HMS Pearl, Captain Thomas Wilkinson was a new 5th rate (32 guns/220 men) frigate commissioned 8 Nov 1775. The smaller vessel had the senior captain which is why HMS Caryfort was the lead vessel. They officially" sailed 8 April and arrived at the Cul du Sac, Quebec, on 26 May (27 sail) and 27 May (2 frigates and 12 sail). Five sail, separated in the fog off Newfoundland, were missing on 29 May when Catain Fanshaw wrote his report to London. I believe that the seven regiments transported in this convoy were the 31st plus six of these seven regiments: 9th, 20th, 24th, 29th, 34th, 53rd, 62nd. The 21st regiment sailed earlier with Gen. John Burgoyne and his Brunswick and Hannau mercenaries The Speke, hospital ship, was orginally scheduled to have sailed with that convoy. There are two lists of the vessels in the official convoy. The first, attached to Robert Fanshaw's 11 March 1776 orders [UK/PRO, ADM 2/100, f. 477-80] include: "To carry the Six Battalions which are to be embarked at Cork." "Order'd to Cork from the River Thames" Providence (1st) Charming Sally Caesar Favorite [1st] Champion Lucretia Amitys Succession Sarah Kitty London Gale Rosseau "Ditto from Plymouth" Woodcock Christie Ostenbotten Speedwell "Ditto from Portsmouth. NB. The first Seven are lately returned from Gibraltar & the others from Minorca" Adamant Lively Fidelity Myrtle Favorite [2nd] Kent John King George Friendship Garland Henry Success's Increase Britannia [1st] Grace Lord North "Ordered to Cork from the River Clyde" Prince George Brilliant Sisters Britannia [2nd] "To take on board the 31st Regmt in the Clyde & then repair to Cork." "In the Clyde." Lilly (1st) Mermaid Patty Rainbow Hunter Morisinia Lilly (2d) Boyd "Order'd from the Thames to Cork.' Speke -- Hospital ship. The second list was attached to the 18 Apr 1776 Stepens to Shuldham letter cited above: Lucretia Rosseau Fidelity Caesar Britannia (1st) Kitty Britannia (2d) Favorite (1st) Henry Adamant Woodcock Sisters Ostenbotten Speedwell Favorite (2d) Gale Champion John Lilly (1st) Mermaid Rainbow Hunter Thetis Lilly (2d) Momimia Myrtle London Christie Charming Sally Grace Amity's Succession Success's Increase Garland Lively Friendship Elizabeth Kent Providence Patty Sarah King George. The Thetis was a victualler which sprung a leak and was supposed to have put into a Spanish port for repairs. She was part of the convoy under Commodore Peter Parker intended to capture Charlestown SC. The Speke, hospital ship, departed Cork later in a small convoy under HMS Ranger. If John Joyce was in this coinvoy, he probably was a member of one of the regiments. Each of these regiments was authorized 677 men, 60 women, 12 servants and 90 tons of baggage. I hope this helps narrow your problem. Bob Brooks, retired downeast on the coast of Maine ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brenda Perkins" <brendaperkins@usa.net> To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 8:43 AM Subject: [A-REV] Cove of Corke > I've just joined these two lists. Can anyone tell me where I can find a list > of the ships that left the Cove of Corke on April 6, 1776? And a list of the > ships' passengers? Looking for information on John Joyce, of Ireland, who was > 24 years old at the time. I'd like to know what ship he was on and any further > information. > > Thanks, > > Brenda > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

I've just joined these two lists. Can anyone tell me where I can find a list of the ships that left the Cove of Corke on April 6, 1776? And a list of the ships' passengers? Looking for information on John Joyce, of Ireland, who was 24 years old at the time. I'd like to know what ship he was on and any further information. Thanks, Brenda

THE BURNING OF NEW LONDON, ON THE 6TH OF SEPTEMBER, 1781. >From the Connecticut Gazette of Friday, September 7th. http://home.ptd.net/~revwar/groton.html

More than 200 items from the collections of the Musee National de la Marine have come to North America for the first time. The exhibit, sponsored by the Musee National and the Musee de la Civilisation Quebec, can be seen in Wilmington, Delaware, at the First USA Riverfront Arts Center from 16 February to 19 May 2002, under the title "Le Grand Voyage. Treasures of the Musee National de la Marine," and in Salem, Massachusetts, at the Peabody Essex Museum from 12 July to 14 October 2002 as "Rendezvous with the Sea: The Glory of the French Maritime Tradition." The exhibition features items from the past five centuries, including paintings, ship models, navigational instruments, maps, prints and photographs, sculptures and toys. The collection offers a rare opportunity to see superb examples of marine art and artifacts from an era rich in French maritime activity. The following text has been excerpted from the exhibit catalog. King Charles X signed the official act for the founding of the Musee de la Marine in December 1827. The "Musee Dauphin," named for his son, was established at the Louvre with the intent of making the royal collections accessible to the general public. The inspector general of the Navy, Henri Louis Duhamel du Monceau (1700-1782), had already installed his own collection of model ships and dockyard machinery there in 1748 to be used in the instruction of students at the School of Naval Architecture, which he had established a few years earlier. A number of other collections were added, some from the Navy itself, others from the dockyards at Brest, Rochefort and Toulon, where models of vessels had been produced prior to construction of the actual ships. While the museum was initially devoted entirely to the navy, artifacts from voyages of scientific exploration were also included from about 1830, by which time the institution was called the Musee Naval. As of 1836 the collection was extended to the fine arts with an extensive addition of drawings, marble busts and paintings. New dockyard models were regularly added as new ships were designed and built. Francois Edmond Paris was appointed director in 1871 and undertook an ambitious acquisition policy. He travelled around the world twice, bringing back plans of all types of vessels, and ordered more than 230 models built, mostly nonEuropean boats, but also pleasure and fishing craft from the North Atlantic and Mediterranean. He also added numerous volumes and ship's plans to the library. In the early 1900s the ethnographic collection was dispersed and a sizeable collection on merchant vessels was started and continued to grow through donations from various shipping companies and shipyards. Between 1939 and 1943 the Musee de la Marine, as it was then called, moved from the Louvre to the Palais de Chaillot. It was further expanded with collections from various ports, primarily work from model and sculpture workshops. Today the Musee National de la Marine, with its head office and main site at the Palais de Chaillot in Paris, also has seven large exhibition centers along the coast, all under the French Ministry of Defence. First USA Riverfront Arts Center: 800 South Madison Street, Wilmington DE 19801; 888 862-ARTS; web site: www.riverfrontwilmington.com Peabody Essex Museum: 1 East India Square, Salem MA 01970; 978 745-6776; web site: www.pem.org -- For Revolutionary War information on the Internet, your first choice should be AMERICANREVOLUTION.ORG

I read a list of Halifax Co.,Va. deserters in the archives.It said it was a list of Major Jones' Battallion of Militia,1781. Indexed in H.J. Eckemrodes"Virginia Soliders in the American Revolution" under "Executive Communications,1841". I thought that had been revised in 1911. How can I find out if they were really deserters? Virginia Pharr Louisville,Ky.

Greetings, Can anyone give me any info on this unit or its members? I found the name of William Rice listed in 1782 in Mary B. Kegley's work on Montgomery County. William's name does not show up in any of the Revolutionary War sources I have researched to date. He was born 1756 (1850 Census says KY???) and died 1857 in Carter County, KY. His name is listed on a monument in Carter County, KY as a Revolutionary War soldier. Any help would be appreciated. Martha Rice