Subject: Bennington and Its Battle by Edwin A. Start Source: Cornell's "Making of America" This item is Illustrated with etchings, portraits, monuments, much on the Catamount Tavern etc. (portrait & bio on Gen. John Stark) <A HREF="http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&coll=moa& view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fnewe%2Fnewe0010%2F&tif=00769.TIF&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.l ibrary.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DAFJ3026-0010-121"> Bennington & Its Battle by Edwin A. Start</A> http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fmoa-cgi%3Fnotisid%3DAFJ 3026-0010-121

As I said previously, Adams was an avid letter writer and I'm sure he had those he respected in other colonies who gave them their opinion of the popular mood there. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: <ARPAT1932@aol.com> To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 6:10 PM Subject: Re: [A-REV] Some thoughts on allegiance > IIRC John Adams spent the last few years of the AR in Europe. Also, I doubt > that he any sense of the support/nonsupport of colonists outside New England > and Pennsylvania. > > His figures are probably fairly accurate for the period up 'til after the > Declaration of Independence, however, support would have grown after that > period. > > In the area of support for the Patriot Cause by Scot Irish and Scots. I > recall that those Scots who settled in the Piedmont area of North Carolina > were described as generally favoring the Loyalist cause. The Scot Irish that > were "over the mountain," when they took a position, generally came down on > the patriot side. > > B. Cox > > > In a message dated 6/10/2002 2:05:20 PM Central Daylight Time, > jlstokes@supernet.com writes: > > > > These are probably the only numbers > > we will ever have, they come from a reliable source who cites numbers that > > are against his interests, so just on that point we have to acknowledge > > them. As a politician it would have been Adam's business to know how people > > thought. > > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I don't have a problem with Serle's numbers, quite the contrary, they are so close to Adams that it convinces me that Adams was pretty close to correct. If both sides give you about the same numbers you have to figure they are pretty close. Keep in mind, even with a modern poll there is often a plus or minus of 4% so the numbers can be off by 8% in a modern poll. Adams and the others were avid letter writers so I'm sure he was receiving letters from others back in the colonies and I'm sure, high on the list of things they discussed, was the mood at home. I agree, I'd like to know where Adams mentioned these numbers, it will surely help put them in context and give me more faith in them. Still, I'm impressed that Serle's numbers were so close. I'm not aware of any other estimates of how the population felt during the revolution, I'm amazed there is a second set of numbers. I will keep my eyes open. Granted, these numbers are fluid and probably went up and down as they did in the Philadelphia area. Jim

Below is a link to an interesting website by the Pennsylvania Historical and Museum Commission, it gives background information on service in the revolution. This isn't the same as the site that has cards on Revolutionary soldiers, this is more background information. http://www.phmc.state.pa.us/bah/dam/military/revwar.htm Jim

Anne: I hate to burst your bubble, but "Brother Jonathan" Trumbull *was* a Royal Governor. It fact, one of the things he is remembered for is because he was the *only* Royal Governor to go over to the Patriot side when war came. Best regards, Ed -- For Revolutionary War information on the Internet, your first choice should be AMERICANREVOLUTION.ORG

In a message dated 6/12/2002 12:59:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlstokes@supernet.com writes: << Are you saying there was no Royal Governor in Rhode Island or Connecticut ? >> Jim: Going to answer you on the List, as there's a lot of information. I can speak only for CT, which had an elected governor (Jonathan Trumbull, patriot of the Rev). He was not a royal gov. I have read that CT and RI were the only fully self-governing colonies, and I think the only 2 without royal governors. Don't know who RI's governor was at the time of the Rev. Remember the story of the Connecticut Charter Oak? Andros, the English governor sent to Mass in the late 17th c (which is when Mass first acquired a royal gov), tried to get possession of CT's charter, given to it by the King. But someone in the room (presumably in the CT General Assembly) doused the lights, and the charter could not be found - till much later, when it surfaced outside, somewhere in or near what came to be known as the Charter Oak tree. This supposedly is how CT saved itself from becoming a royal colony. Here is a description of the CT charter, from my notes in Word 5.0 - if you can decipher my abbreviations: Conn's charter of 1662 truly an amazing doc wh gave to ppl of Conn not only a clear leg basis for thr col but also, and most imp, a very hi degree of self-govt King Chas II, in charter md John Winthrop, Jr, and others a body corporate called the "Governour and Company of the English Colony of Conecticut in New England in America." Membs of the co were the freemen of Conn, and the co cd lease, grant, alienate, bargain, sell, and dispose of property as other corporations cd do. Charter provided for a gov, dep gov, and 12 assistants, to b chosen yearly in May by the freemen. The freemen of Conn, enjoying all the "liberties and Immunities" of natural-born Englishmen, were required to take the oath of supremacy. Full judicial powers were granted to the legislature or to the gov or dep and any 6 asstnts. The lawmaking powers resided in the legisltr, but it must enact none "contrary to the lawes and Statutes of this our Realme of England." Other imp provisions: authorized the erection of courts, the free carrying on of trade, the raising of troops whenever nec for defense and safety, the exec of all laws passed and pubd under the common seal of Conn, and the enjoyment of fishing rights on the coasts and adjoining seas. The charter est Narragansett Bay as e boundary, the Mass line on n, LI Sound and ocian on s. On west, Conn to run all the way to the "South Sea," the Pacific Ocean To all intents and purps, the freemen cd run thr govt in the accustomed pattern, w so little Engl control as scarcely to b noticed. V, p 70 [Van Deusen; this quote may not be verbatim, but is probably close.] The inhabitants of Connecticut held their charter dear. When the British, under the Boston Port Bill of early 1774, abolished the Massachusetts charter, all Connecticut was alarmed, fearing the same could happen to it. This aroused the colony and subsequently sent its men on the march whenever its neighbor to the north appeared to be threatened. The False Alarm of Sept 1774 showed Gage, in Boston, that Connecticut would mobilize. The last days of summer were upon us, suddenly and surprisingly short.... The military presence to the north loomed over us. Not long before, General Gage had sent out a party of soldiers to seize the gunpowder stockpiled by Patriots in Charlestown. The news raced through Massachusetts. By the time it reached Connecticut, it had grown to include stories of rape and pillage. Boston, we heard, had been cannonaded. Within twenty-four hours, four thousand minutemen--more than Gage's army--were marching on Boston. Over the next days the number grew to twenty thousand. It was a false alarm. The minutemen returned to their homes. But by now it was clear that Americans would fight. The British high command had seen its peril and, it was commonly believed, began writing home for more troops. As the green-gold of September turned yellow and sere, feelings ran high. Patriots clamored for action... Anne

National Register of Historical Places - Maine - Sagadahoc County McCobb-Hill-Minott House ** (added 1977 - Building - #77000083) Parker Head Rd., Phippsburg Historic Significance: Event, Architecture/Engineering Architect, builder, or engineer: Parkard,Isaac Architectural Style: Georgian Area of Significance: Industry, Exploration/Settlement, Politics/Government, Architecture Period of Significance: 1750-1799 Owner: Private Historic Function: Domestic Historic Sub-function: Single Dwelling Current Function: Domestic Current Sub-function: Single Dwelling http://www.nationalregisterofhistoricplaces.com/ME/Sagadahoc/state.html

Boothbay, Boothbay Harbor, Southport, Edgecomb Vol. 124-No. 21 Lobster Cove Meadow, Part I Barbara M. Rumsely The Boothbay Region Land Trust has acquired the west side of Lobster Cove Meadow, at least most of that part of it between Lobster Cove Road and Route 96. I thought people might be interested in learning a little about the area's history. The south end of the meadow, where it meets Lobster Cove has been attractive to settlers since they started coming here, and no doubt the Indians found the area just as desirable. Mid-1600s Settler At Lobster Cove The Boothbay region mainland was first settled in the mid-1600s, and it was then called Winnegance, meaning "carrying place.'' The best known settler on the east side of the Boothbay peninsula, Henry Champnois, had a parcel seven miles long and about two miles wide. He owned from what is now Ocean Point up to Salt Marsh Cove in Edgecomb, and his land went west from the Damariscotta River to about the middle of present-day Boothbay. Champnois was free to choose any spot on all that land for his first homestead, and he chose Lobster Cove and its meadow. It was the most desirable piece of land in the region to him, and it would have been a prime choice for any settler. It had the necessary elements to start out. A large part of my next book will cover the attractions and historical significance of Lobster Cove and its meadow. Most early settlement sites were on fresh or salt marshes because of the instant benefits they conferred -wildlife and rich organic soil in a naturally-cleared setting. Some points I make in the book are, "Lobster Cove Meadow contained fresh water and a potential source of water power. The verges of the meadow, continually gathering silt, were prime farmland. If the drainage was improved, more field land would appear as the water retreated to the center, with no towering trees to clear. Waterfowl and animals frequented the area, with berries and usable plants, such as cattails, in abundance, as well as the edible grasses for livestock. Lobster Cove was a larder in itself, one of the most desirable places in Winnegance.'' Despite Lobster Cove's desirability, in about 1668 Champnois moved over to the mill pond area of East Boothbay. No matter how terrific Lobster Cove's natural gifts were, the mill pond was a superior mill site, and Champnois did build a grist mill there. However, he did not value Lobster Cove Meadow any less. In his will, he left nearly everything to his son Henry, "Excepting the meadow called the Lobster Cove Meadow and ye planting field Adjoyning to it I Give and bequeath to my Son William.'' Perhaps son William intended to take over the Lobster Cove house and have his homestead there. Though Champnois and his family, like all local English settlers, spent decades creating homesteads in this part of Maine, they were driven out temporarily during King Philip's War in the 1670s and were finally driven out for good in 1689 during King William's War. 1730s and Later Settlers At Lobster Cove Boothbay was permanently resettled in 1730 by a mostly Scotch-Irish little band of colonists. Can you guess which spot was most densely settled upon their arrival? Edmund Brown, David Bryant, John McFarland, and Samuel McCobb all lived near the outlet of Lobster Cove Meadow while everyone else was sparsely scattered along the shore from Oak Point on the west side of the peninsula to Barlows Hill on the east side of the peninsula. McFarland and McCobb were two leading men of the community and may have had first choice of the available sites. John McFarland settled in the area of Nola Herman's new house on the west side of the meadow, while Samuel McCobb was south of him, just a little way back off the water and northwest of Barrett Park. http://boothbayregister.maine.com/2000-05-25/our_past.html DENNY, Rachel (ME) Birth : 23 JUN 1752 Death : 18 SEP 1825 Probably Georgetown, Maine Gender: Female Parents: Father: DENNY, Samuel *(ME?) Mother: LORING or WHITE, Rachel *(ME?) Family: Marriage: 18 FEB 1768 in Georgetown, Bath County, Maine Spouse: MCCOBB, Samuel (ME) Birth : 20 NOV 1744 Georgetown, Bath County, Maine Death : 30 JUL 1791 Georgetown, Bath County, Maine Gender: Male Parents: Father: MCCOBB, James *(ME?) Mother: RODGERS, Beatrice *(ME?) Children: MCCOBB, Denny (ME) MCCOBB, Beatrice (ME) MCCOBB, Rachel Lorning (ME) MCCOBB, Nancy (ME) MCCOBB, John (ME) Birth : 9 FEB 1779 Maine Gender: Male MCCOBB, Jane (ME) MCCOBB, Sally (ME) Birth : 15 MAY 1783 Maine Gender: Female MCCOBB, Parker (ME) http://www.grotonresearch.org/html2/dat01/dat1961.html

Captain Samuel McCobb Roll Box 136 Roll Rec 246 DAR do free look ups http://www.dar.org Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed St.Germain" <Patriot1@americanrevolution.org> To: <AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 9:35 AM Subject: [A-REV] Re: Samuel McCOBB (1744 - 1791) and family > Geoff: > > First off, if you're looking in Maine, you're looking in the wrong > place. He died long before Maine existed. > > He was a captain in the Lexington Alarm, April 1775; Captain of Nixon's > Massachusetts Regiment, May to December 1775; Captain 5th Continental > Infantry, 1 Jan to 31 Dec 1776; served subsequently as a colonel in the > Massachusetts militia; died 1791. > > Units of his regiment were on the Penobscot expedition, but my sources > don't specifically mention his being there. > > He's listed in the DAR Patriot Index, so I'd suggest you contact them > for copies of whatever might have family info. > > Best regards, > Ed > -- > For Revolutionary War information on the Internet, your first choice > should be AMERICANREVOLUTION.ORG > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Geoff: First off, if you're looking in Maine, you're looking in the wrong place. He died long before Maine existed. He was a captain in the Lexington Alarm, April 1775; Captain of Nixon's Massachusetts Regiment, May to December 1775; Captain 5th Continental Infantry, 1 Jan to 31 Dec 1776; served subsequently as a colonel in the Massachusetts militia; died 1791. Units of his regiment were on the Penobscot expedition, but my sources don't specifically mention his being there. He's listed in the DAR Patriot Index, so I'd suggest you contact them for copies of whatever might have family info. Best regards, Ed -- For Revolutionary War information on the Internet, your first choice should be AMERICANREVOLUTION.ORG

Dear Listers, Samuel McCOBB of Maine (1744 - 1791) married, in 1768, my wife's cousin Rachel DENNY (1752 - 1825). I am told that he was variously a Major, a Colonel, or a General in the Revolutionary War (against us Brits!) or later, but I can find very little about him on 'the net' (though Janice Farnsworth kindly gave him a mention yesterday - thanks Janice!). Does anyone know of this gentleman, his wife, and/or his children: Denny (son, 1770); Beatrice (1772); Rachel Loring (1774); Nancy (1777); John (1779); Jane (1781); Sally (1783); and Parker (son, 1785). Yours, etc. Geoffrey Woollard in Cambridgeshire, England.

Hi In the table at the bottom of part one of this wonderful post, I see a William Munroe of Lexington listed under 1st lieutenant. Is there anyone on this list who would know who his wife was? Thanks much! Scott Robinson Janesville, WI

Subject: Concord in the Revolution - Part 4 of 4 Source: History of the Town of Concord, Middlesex County, Massachusetts by Lemuel Shattuck Boston: Russell, Odiorne and Company - John Stacy - 1835 Appendix No. II Part 4 of 4 p.358 June, 1779. The town received orders for these men September 1st and chose the Selectmen, Colonel Nathan Barrett, Jonas Heywood, Esq., and the four militia captains, a committee to procure these and other four militia captains, a committee to procure these and all others, "when small drafts are called," without calling the town together. September, 1779. These belonged to a company of thirty-eight men from this and the adjoining towns, under Samuel Heald, Captain; Enoch Kingsbury, Lieutenant; Stephen Hosmer, 2d Lieut.; and John Jacobs, Colonel. Henry Flint was Sergeant Major. They were discharged in November, and the whole amount of their wages was 10 shillings 6 pence in silver each. Officers of the 3d Regiment of Militia March 7th, 1780 Location Captain 1st Lieutenant 2d Lieutenant ______________________________________________________________________________ _________ 1. Concord Jacob Brown John White Asa Brooks 2. Weston Matthew Hobbs Josiah Livermore Daniel Livermore 3. Lexington John Bridge William Munroe 4. Concord Thomas Hubbard Ephraim Wheeler Amos Hosmer 5. Acton John Heald Benjamin Brabrook 6. Lincoln Samuel Farrar Samuel Hoar James Parks 7. Concord Samuel Heald Issachar Andrews Stephen Barrett 8. Francis Brown Isaac Addington Thomas Fessenden 9. Concord Samuel Jones Elisha Jones Stephen Hosmer. Sept. 1, 1779. The names of these men were: Charles Shepherd Lot Lamson Francis Baker Timothy Wesson Nathan Page Asa Piper Timothy Sprague Nathaniel Breed Charles Hanley John Stratten Ezekiel Hager Jeremiah Shepherd Nathaniel French Josiah Melvin Jr. Joshua Stevens Phillip Barrett Lemuel Wheeler Chandler Bryant Daniel Cole Acton furnished eleven; Bedford, seven; Lincoln, nine; Carlisle, seven. These men were procured by a committee chosen by the town, June 12th in addition to that chosen in September previous, consisting of: John Cuming, Esq. Capt. David Brown Capt. Andrew Conant Capt. David Wheeler Lieut. Stephen Barrett. They were also to procure others, "if the draught does not exceed sixteen; if it does, the town to be called together." June 5, 1780. These men were hired by the same committee. They were intended to march to Albany to prevent the incursions of the Indians, but counter orders were issued and they went to Rhode Island. Cyprian How was Colonel. ____ Bancroft of Dunstable, Lieut. Colonel. ____ Stone of Ashby, Major. Abraham Andrews, Captain. Silas Walker, Lieut. Eli Conant, Lieut. Bedford furnished eight; Acton, eleven; Lincoln, twelve; Carlisle, nine. p.359 Dec 2, 1780. These men were to serve three years or during the war. The town decided, after considerable debate, by a vote of 53 to 42, to hire them in classes. The Selectmen: James Barrett, Esq. Jonas Heywood, Esq. Mr. Isaac Hubbard. Mr. Samuel Hosmer. Colonel Nathan Barrett. Mr. Job Brooks. were chosen to divide the town into as many classes as there were men to hire, according to wealth. The town voted to "proceed against" any who should neglect to pay their pro- portion in the several classes; each one of which hired a man at as low a rate as possible. The men's names were: Charles Adams Richard Hayden Jonathan Wright Joseph Dudley Isaac Hall Lot Lamson Francis Baker Joseph Adams Benjamin Barron William Tenneclef Richard Hobby Leonard Whitney Samuel Farrar John Stratten Daniel McGregor Jonathan Fiske. Bedford furnished eight; Acton, eight; Lincoln, ten; Carlisle, six. They were mustered by Captain Joseph Hosmer. June 15, 1781. Bedford furnished seven; Acton, eight; Lincoln, eight; Carlisle, four, for this campaign. The whole State furnished two thousand seven hundred. June 30, 1780. These men were hired by classes. Deacon John White was Chairman of the 3d Class which was assessed £180 to hire Joseph Cleisby. The 5th Class, of which Reuben Hunt was Chairman, hired Jacob Laughton for £90 lawful money as a bounty. Sometimes $100 were given by a single individual. All property seemed to be at the disposal of government, if required. The soldiers were paid off in government sureties which were sold for 2 shillings, 6 pence on the pound. Nathaniel French received ninety bushels of rye. Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth

This spring the Museum at Ft. Ticonderoga, (Essex Co., NY), purchased a collection of 72 manuscripts, all of which have to do with the business, military & personal affairs of Philip SKENE (1725-1810). The museum now has a total of about 300 Skene documents. This collection is available to researchers, and some of the documents may be displayed at the Fort. Born a Scot, Skene later joined the British army, and served during the Seven Years' War (French & Indian War) in the Champlain Valley. As a reward for his loyal and distinguished service, in 1759 he was given a land grant of 34,000 acres. Later on he purchased 26,000 more acres along Lake Champlain. He established a home in what is today Whitehall, Washington Co., NY (then Skenesborough). A thorough businessman, Skene built foundries, sawmills and shipyards in the area. In the collection of papers is a series of letters written between Skene and General John Burgoyne. According to those who have studied this correspondence, Burgoyne fully informed Skene of his plans to invade the Champlain Valley in 1777. Apparently, had the British won the war, Skene expected to be made Governor of New York. Just as an aside... the City of Whitehall is working hard to beautify the downtown area, esp. all along the canal. They're doing a great job of it, too! More and more tourists who travel the canal in boats are taking the time to stop at Whitehall to look around. There are a couple of restaurants along there now also. Best regards, Susan

Subject: Concord in the Revolution - Part 3 of 4 Source: History of the Town of Concord, Middlesex County, Massachusetts by Lemuel Shattuck Boston: Russell, Odiorne and Company - John Stacy - 1835 Appendix No. II Part 3 p.355 April 12, 1777 This was a detachment to reinforce General Spencer. Amos Hosmer and Thaddeus Hunt were Lieutenants. July, 1777. Abishai Brown was Captain; Daniel Davis, of Acton, 1st Lieutenant; James Brown of Lexington 2d Lieutenant; Thaddeus Blood, Orderly Sergeant; Abel Davis, Drummer. They left about the 1st of June. Dr. Isaac Hurd was Surgeon of the regiment, which was commanded by John Jacobs and Lt. Colonel Robinson and was under General Spencer. Abishai Brown was appointed Major in this campaign. The town estimate gave fourteen only in this campaign but is prob- ably incorrect. Deacon White's Manuscript says, "July 23, 1777, an alarm - draughted the following persons to go to Rhode Island," and gives the names of the twenty-nine. p.356 August 9, 1777. These constituted one sixth of the militia. George Minott was Captain. They were at the battle of Saratoga, and at the taking of Burgoyne. They subsequently marched to New Jersey. September 22, 1777. This was a volunteer company of sixty-three men from Concord and Acton, commanded by John Buttrick. John Heald and Silas Mann were Lieutenants; John White, Samuel Piper, Reuben Hunt and Peter Wheeler were Sergeants. They were under Colonel Reed. They left Concord Oct. 4th passed through Rutland, Northampton, etc and arrived at Saratoga on the 10th, where they en- camped two days. The 13th they went to Fort Edward. The 14th and 15th, went out on a scout and the 16th brought in fifty-three Indians, several Tories (one of whom had 100 guineas), and some women. The 17th "we had an express," says Deacon White's Journal, "to return to Saratoga, and had the pleasure to see the whole of Burgoyne's army parade their arms, and march out of their lines; a wonderful sight indeed; it was the Lord's doing, and it was marvellous in our eyes." They guarded the prisoners to Cambridge. $206 were subscribed to encourage these men, beside the bounty specified in the table. Samuel Farrar commanded a company from Lincoln and Lexington in this campaign. November 28, 1777. Captain Simon Hunt, of Acton, commanded the company to which most of the Concord men were attached, under Colonel Eleazer Brooks and General Heath. Nine companies guarded Burgoyne's troops down, five marching before and four behind. March 3, 1778. Resolutions were passed February 7th for four hundred men and March 11th and 13th, each for five hundred more to guard the stores at Boston. These men were called out for that pur- pose and were under the command of General Heath. Thomas Barret was Captain a part of the time; Daniel Harrington the other part. Elisha Jones and Asa Green, Lieutenants. They were under Colonel Jonathan Reed. April 12, 1778. These men were raised for the defence of Rhode Island under General Spencer. The officers of the regiment were: John Jacobs, Colonel Frederick Pope, Lieut. Colonel Abishai Brown, Major. They were chosen February 27th. Thaddeus Blood of Concord was Ensign in this campaign. The committee chosen by the town to hire them were: Colonel James Barrett Colonel John Buttrick Mr. Ephraim Wood, Jr. Jonas Heywood, Esq. John Cuming, Esq. April 20, 1778. These men were: Oliver Buttrick Benjamin Gould Jason Bemis William Diggs Joseph Plummer Cesar Kettle David White Benjamin Perkins Jeremiah Hunt, Jr. John Stratten. These were hired by the town, as in the last, and all subsequent campaigns. These were part of two hundred men. Acton and Lincoln furnished five each, and Bedford, three. They marched first to Rhode Island, and afterwards to New York. They were to serve nine months from the time they arrived at Fishkill. April 20, 1778. Their names were: William Burrows, Lieutenant. Reuben Parks Timothy Merriam Jeremiah Williams Jonathan Curtis Jacob Ames Timothy Hoar Wareham Wheeler Joseph Cleisby. June 23, 1778. These men guarded the prisoners to the new barracks built at Rutland. Ephraim Wood was appointed to superintend their removal. June 27, 1778. These men were sent to reinforce General Sullivan. John Buttrick was Lieut-Colonel and was wounded at Sullivan's retreat. Samuel Jones and Emerson Cogswell were lieutenants under Capt. Francis Brown of Lexington. Thaddeus Blood was Ensign in the State troops at the same time. Benjamin Prescott was Surgeon. One sergeant and three corporals were from Concord. Sept 6, 1778. The town received the order, September 10th, and held a meeting the next day, when a committee was chosen to hire them. They were paid £23 per month, including the public wages. These men were: Timothy Killock Charles Shepherd Daniel Wheat Timothy Wetherbee Jesse Parkins Thomas Hodgman Silas Parlin. Sept 19, 1778. This constituted one third of the militia required to march to Boston at a minute's warn- ing. They volunteered under Colonel Cuming, and were to receive $5 bounty, and $15 per month, including the pay allowed by the public. The orders were countermanded and they did not march. This is the only instance in all the campaigns of the men not marching when called. April and June 1778. The town chose a committee June 16th, to hire the men for these two campaigns, consisting of: Colonel Nathan Barrett; the four commanding officers of the militia companies; the Selectmen; Colonel John Cuming, Mr. Jonas Heywood, Capt. David Brown, Capt Joseph Butler, and James Barrett, Esq. Acton furnished four; Bedford, three; Lincoln, five and the whole county, two hundred and forty-five in the nine months' campaign. The detachment to Rhode Island took one hundred men more from this county, who were under Colonel Jacobs. The 3d Regiment was required to furnish one sergeant and eleven privates. Thaddeus Blood was a Lieutenant in the United States' service; Jonas Wright was Sergeant. To be continued, Part 4 of 4, p.358. Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth

--part1_197.80c158a.2a36bb79_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >In a message dated 6/9/2002 7:45:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jr@jrshelby.com >writes: > ><< We are sometimes given the impression that after the war, all those who >had > been Loyalists lost everything they had and had to leave the country. This > is believed to have been true for only one loyalist in five. >> > >In Connecticut, it was close to universal. Loyalists were encouraged by one >means or another to leave the colony, then state, and I don't think they were >welcomed back either. At the same time, there was not much violence, at >least not of the ferocity seen later in the South. People were shunned, they >were called before Committees of Inspection, some were jailed, one was hanged. >In New England, the Congregational clergy had long thundered from the pulpit >against the governmental policies of the time. Since everyone went to >church, this was a strong influence. There were related conflicts, like the >lingering divide created by the Great Awakening of the 1740's, the distaste >for Anglicanism and fear of an Episcopal bishop, etc. > >In 1775, I believe it would be hard to make a case that there was any >substantial percentage of the population favoring independence > >No, that was virtually unheard of, although it gradually seeped into >attitudes after the actual outbreak of fighting, then hardened with the >King's Proclamation of Rebellion (spurning the Olive Branch Petition from the >Continental Congress), and was fanned into actuality with the news of the >hiring of Hessians and, especially, with the publication of Thomas Paine's >Common Sense. This last illuminated many of the contradictions people had >been trying, in vain, to reconcile within themselves. Anne --part1_197.80c158a.2a36bb79_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <jr@jrshelby.com> Received: from rly-st05.mail.aol.com (rly-st05.mail.aol.com [172.31.34.4]) by air-yb05.mail.aol.com (v86.11) with ESMTP id MAILINYB54-0610060418; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 06:04:18 -0400 Received: from rly-ye03.mx.aol.com (rly-ye03.mail.aol.com [172.18.151.200]) by rly-st05.mail.aol.com (8.8.8/8.8.8/AOL-5.0.0) with ESMTP id FAA03860 for <jmjjf@aol.com>; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:59:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail5.carolina.rr.com ([24.93.67.52]) by rly-ye03.mx.aol.com (v86_r1.12) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYE32-0610055929; Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:59:29 2000 Received: from john-akb7ma1ejp.jrshelby.com ([24.74.56.237]) by mail5.carolina.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:59:00 -0400 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20020610055528.02b09e70@pop-server> X-Sender: johnrobertson@pop-server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 05:56:55 -0400 To: JMJJF@aol.com From: John Robertson <jr@jrshelby.com> Subject: Re: [A-REV] Some thoughts on allegiance In-Reply-To: <51.1f35369d.2a356e73@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed You should send this to the list. All this posting I am doing is trying to provoke some thoughtful, informative discussion (and get their minds off trivia!). John At 10:52 PM 6/9/2002 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 6/9/2002 7:45:18 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jr@jrshelby.com >writes: > ><< We are sometimes given the impression that after the war, all those who >had > been Loyalists lost everything they had and had to leave the country. This > is believed to have been true for only one loyalist in five. >> > >In Connecticut, it was close to universal. Loyalists were encouraged by one >means or another to leave the colony, then state, and I don't think they were >welcomed back either. At the same time, there was not much violence, at >least not of the ferocity seen later in the South. People were shunned, they >were called before Committees of Inspection, some were jailed, one was hanged. >In New England, the Congregational clergy had long thundered from the pulpit >against the governmental policies of the time. Since everyone went to >church, this was a strong influence. There were related conflicts, like the >lingering divide created by the Great Awakening of the 1740's, the distaste >for Anglicanism and fear of an Episcopal bishop, etc. > >In 1775, I believe it would be hard to make a case that there was any >substantial percentage of the population favoring independence > >No, that was virtually unheard of, although it gradually seeped into >attitudes after the actual outbreak of fighting, then hardened with the >King's Proclamation of Rebellion (spurning the Olive Branch Petition from the >Continental Congress), and was fanned into actuality with the news of the >hiring of Hessians and, especially, with the publication of Thomas Paine's >Common Sense. This last illuminated many of the contradictions people had >been trying, in vain, to reconcile within themselves. --part1_197.80c158a.2a36bb79_boundary--

In a message dated 6/10/2002 5:55:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, jlstokes@supernet.com writes: << I think its an interesting question just how democratic the American Revolution was, your British loyalists who thought two thirds were against it may not have been too far off but we don't really know. If we assume the thirds Adams talks about were only males we still don't know how many of them would have had the right to vote. >> My understanding is that the Patriots were better organized all along. Also, the colonies had been running themselves, and were accustomed to look to their own local and colonial governments. When the split began to widen, government was all in place - and had been for well over a century. Anne

Subject: Concord in the Revolution - Part 2 of 4 Source: History of the Town of Concord, Middlesex County, Massachusetts by Lemuel Shattuck Boston: Russell, Odiorne and Company - John Stacy - 1835 Appendix No. II Part 2 p.354 June 25, 1776. Dr. John Cuming was appointed Commander in this expedition but declined. The whole con- sisted of five thousand men. One company consisting of ninety-four men was commanded by Capt. Charles Miles of Concord. Edmond Munroe, Lieutenant. Matthew Hobbs, 2d Lieut. John Brown, Ensign. They were attached to Colonel Jonathan Reed's regiment. His muster-roll gives sixty-one from Concord, (differing from the report from which the above is compiled); Weston, twenty- seven; Lexington, four; and two from Tyconterage. Being ready to march, they were paraded on the common in Concord, with several other companies from the adjoining towns, and attend- ed religious services in the meeting-house. Rev. William Emerson preached from Job, verse 20, and afterwards went as chaplain, sacrificed his life to his patriotism and never return- ed. Another company, commanded by Capt. Asahel Wheeler, whose lieutenant was Samuel Hoar of Lincoln. Samuel Osborn was 2d Lieutenant and Daniel Hosmer, Ensign. September 12, 1776. This embraced one fifth of the militia under fifty years of age, not in actual service. The drafts from this county formed one regiment, which was commanded by Eleazer Brooks of Lincoln. Rev. Moses Adams of Acton was Chaplain; Dr. Joseph Hunt, Surgeon; and Samuel Hartwell of Lincoln, Quarter-master. Concord furnished twenty-three men; Lexington, sixteen; Acton, fifteen and Lincoln, twelve, which formed one company whose officers were: Simon Hunt, Captain, of Acton Samuel Heald, Leiutenant, of Concord Ebenezer White, 2d Lieutenant. They were in the battle of White Plains. A return after the battle gives forty-two fit for duty, seven sick, four wounded and two of them, David Wheeler and Amos Buttrick belonged to Concord. Thomas Darby of Acton was killed. Colonel Brooks's Regiment behaved bravely on that occasion. These were part of a company of eighty-nine men, taken from nearly every town in this county commanded by John Minott, of Chelmsford, and attached to Colonel Dykes's Regiment. John Hartwell of Lincoln was Lieutenant. Acton furnished five; Lincoln, four; and Bedford, three. November 21, 1776. This was one fourth of the militia in Middlesex County, and formed one Regiment of six hundred and seventy men, commanded by Colonel Samuel Thatcher of Cambridge. Cyprian How of Marlborough was Lieutenant Colonel; Joseph Bryant of Stoneham, Major. Concord furnished thrity-four; Weston, eighteen; Lexington, fourteen; Acton, thirteen; Lincoln, thirteen, which composed one company. John Bridge, Captain, of Lexington. Jacob Brown, Lieutenant, of Concord. Josiah Sterns, 2d Lieutenant, of Weston. William Burrows, Orderly Sergeant. They marched to New York and New Jersey before they returned, and were stationed at Wood- bridge. Dissolved March 6th. December 1, 1776. It appears from a roll of this company in the Secretary's office, that Captain John Hart- well was commander of it. Thirteen in this and six in other companies were from Lincoln. They were attached to Colonel Dykes's Regiment. December, 1776. These were attached to the Artillery. January 20, 1777. These were the first three-year men enlisted. Col. James Barrett mustered all the men from this county. Ephraim Wood paid the bounty of those enlisted in Concord. Nathan Wheeler, Ephraim Wheeler, Ephraim Minott, and Wareham Wheeler were Lieutenants in the three years' service. The forty-four names follow: Thomas Wood Matthew Jameson Amos Nutting Job Spaulding John Hodgman William Wilson Josiah Blood Patrick Neiff David Jenners Abraham Davis Thomas B. Ball Pomp Cady James Bray Daniel Brown James Barrett Edward Butt Edward Wilkins John Sherwin Samuel Dutton John Corneil Samson Yammon Daniel Stearns Amos Darby William Wheeler Charles Prescott John Darling Charles Lloyd Lemuel Wheeler Nathaniel Draper Oliver Rice Stephen Stearns James Melvin James Allen Richard Anthony Oliver Barnes John McGrath Thomas Fay Cesar Minott Samuel Butler Francis Legross Charles Swan James Marr Nathaniel Taylor Tilly Holden (died) Samuel Blood Daniel Cole. To be continued Part 3 - p.355 Transcribed by Janice Farnsworth

Maybe . . . Try http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyherkim/flagg.html Marian On Tue, 4 Jun 2002 21:35:13 -0400 "ewbranham" <ewbranham@carolina.rr.com> writes: > I find many references to the Act of Congress, passed June 7, > 1832, which prompted the flurry of Rev. War pension applications now > on file. Does anyone know where... on the web... the actual text of > the Act of Congress can be found? > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy > records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

IIRC John Adams spent the last few years of the AR in Europe. Also, I doubt that he any sense of the support/nonsupport of colonists outside New England and Pennsylvania. His figures are probably fairly accurate for the period up 'til after the Declaration of Independence, however, support would have grown after that period. In the area of support for the Patriot Cause by Scot Irish and Scots. I recall that those Scots who settled in the Piedmont area of North Carolina were described as generally favoring the Loyalist cause. The Scot Irish that were "over the mountain," when they took a position, generally came down on the patriot side. B. Cox In a message dated 6/10/2002 2:05:20 PM Central Daylight Time, jlstokes@supernet.com writes: > These are probably the only numbers > we will ever have, they come from a reliable source who cites numbers that > are against his interests, so just on that point we have to acknowledge > them. As a politician it would have been Adam's business to know how people > thought. >