In a message dated 04/21/05 4:30:44 PM, [email protected] writes: << Does your research involve only Commissioned Officers? My ancestor was a Corporal with the 1st VA Regiment and was at Valley Forge, Monmouth, and Stony Point.>> _______________ Betty, Thanks for your question. I am collecting all info I can gather. Just thought that it would be easier to start from the top down. Could use the name of your Corporal in the 1st VA Regt. He was probably in the Light Infantry Company of that Regiment. The 1st VA was in Brig. Gen. Mechlenburg's Brigade (1st VA Brigade) at the time of Stony Point. Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]>

Does your research involve only Commissioned Officers? My ancestor was a Corporal with the 1st VA Regiment and was at Valley Forge, Monmouth, and Stony Point. Betty Cathcart Clyde TX [email protected]

In a message dated 04/21/05 11:29:52 AM, [email protected] writes: << I'm interested in exchanging information with anyone with connections to the 13th. >> ------------ Mark, I have an interest in the 13th VA Regt., Main Army, Continental Line. Specifically, I am interested in the Light Infantry Co. of the Regt. and its officers and men who were serving at the time of the Battle of Stony Point, NY 15-16 Jul 1779. The VA Regts. of the Main Army were called upon along with those of PA, MA, MD, CT and NC to provide their Light Infantry Companies to the Corps of Light Infantry under Brigadier General Anthony Wayne in Jun of 1779. The Corps disbanded in Dec 1779 and the companies returned to their parent regiments. Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]>

Hugh, I don't think the any of the 13th VA was at Stony Point. They were a Frontier Regiment garrisoned at Ft. Pitt (Pittsburgh) throughout 1779. By July 1779 they had been redesignated the 9th as the original 9th was captured at Germantown and effectively taken out of service. I haven't seen any documentation that would suggest any of the men left Ft. Pitt for Stony Point. If you have details indicating otherwise let me know. The garrison at Ft. Pitt included the 8th PA. Both regiments were chronically understaffed having to rely on militia to support their activities. Hope this helps. Mark . ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] Uniforms of the Revolution > > In a message dated 04/21/05 11:29:52 AM, [email protected] writes: > > << I'm interested in exchanging information with anyone > > with connections to the 13th. >> > ------------ > Mark, > > I have an interest in the 13th VA Regt., Main Army, Continental Line. > Specifically, I am interested in the Light Infantry Co. of the Regt. and its > officers and men who were serving at the time of the Battle of Stony Point, NY > 15-16 Jul 1779. > > The VA Regts. of the Main Army were called upon along with those of PA, MA, > MD, CT and NC to provide their Light Infantry Companies to the Corps of Light > Infantry under Brigadier General Anthony Wayne in Jun of 1779. The Corps > disbanded in Dec 1779 and the companies returned to their parent regiments. > > Best regards, > Hugh > <[email protected]> > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429

Does someone have at their fingertips details on the uniforms worn by Virginia Regiments? Was there a standard used by all Regiments or could some choose their own? I understand most used a red lapel but have seen some mention of yellow being used by the 13th. I'm interested in exchanging information with anyone with connections to the 13th. BODKIN/BOTKIN, Charles, private, 13th Virginia, Main Army, Continental Line, 3 Jan 1777- 10 Sept 1780. Thanks for any help! Mark

There is an article published on the History of the 'Queens Own Loyal Virginia Regiment' and 'Dunmore's Ethiopian Regiment' in the Journal of the Society for Army Historical Research. Spring 2005, Volume 83, Number 333. Best regards, Ed For Revolutionary War Info on the Internet, your first choice should be: www.AmericanRevolution.org

> Is there anywhere you know > where I could find the details of this Company's > history? For example, any books that detail what > happened during these specific engagements & > campaigns. As for the first question, no. As for the second question, there are literally hundreds. Here are just a few: Tuttle, Joseph F. "Biographical Sketch of General William Winds, of Morris Co., New Jersey." Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society, 7 (May 1853), pp. 13-37. Jones, Charles Henry. History of the Campaign for the Conquest of Canada in 1776, From the Death of Montgomery to the Retreat of the British Army Under Sir Guy Carleton. Philadelphia: Porter & Coates, 1882. Wright, William C., editor. New Jersey in the American Revolution. 3 vols. Trenton: New Jersey Historical Commission, 1973-1976. Lender, Mark Edward. "The Enlisted Line: The Continental Soldiers of New Jersey." Ph.D. Dissertation, Rutgers University, 1975. Elmer, Ebenezer. "Journal Kept During an Expedition to Canada in 1776 by Ebenezer Elmer, Lieutenant in the 3rd Regiment of the New Jersey Troops in the Continental Service, Commanded by Colonel Elias Dayton." Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society, 2 (1846-1847), pp. 43-50, 95-194; 3 (1848-1849), pp. 21-56, 90-102. Stanley, George F. G. Canada Invaded 1775-1776. Toronto: Hakkert, 1973. The defense of Canada campaign is dated from the repulse of Mongomery's force (1 Jan 1776) to the withdrawal of Whig forces from Canada on 2 July of '76. As for Lake Champlain, look for books on the Battle of Valcour or Valcour Island (11 Oct 1776.) As for Northern New Jersey, that campaign ran from the capture of Ft. Lee on 20 Nov 1776 to the British embarkation from NY to capture Philadelphia on 26 Jun 1777. But if I understood you correctly about the captain, your ancestor would only have been with the campaign through the end of '76, or at the latest, the battles of Trenton and Princeton. Best regards, Ed For Revolutionary War Info on the Internet, your first choice should be: www.AmericanRevolution.org

--- [email protected] wrote: > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:30:03 -0700 > From: "Ed St.Germain" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] 5th Company, 1st Battalion, > NJ Line > > ... > Ergo, what you're looking for is Captain Meeker's > Company, 1st New Jersey > Regiment, Continental Line. > > Meeker served from 10 December 1775 to 20 Nov 1776. > > The regimental commander from 7 Nov 1775 to 1 March > 1776 was William > Alexander, who used the fanciful title of Lord > Stirling. As of 7 March 1776, > the 2nd in regimental command, LtCol William Winds, > was promoted to Col. and > took over command and served until 20 Nov of that > year. > > During that time, they participated in the Defense > of Canada, the Lake > Champlain engagement, and the Northern New Jersey > campaign. Thanks for clarifying that! Is there anywhere you know where I could find the details of this Company's history? For example, any books that detail what happened during these specific engagements & campaigns. Also, it's interesting to see William Winds took over command. I'm descended from his sister and have been unable to locate any info on who their parents were. The furthest back I have on Gen'l William Winds is that he was born in Southold, Long Island, in the year 1727 or 1728. If anyone has any info on his origins, please let me know. Thanks again! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C545A6.A2BFD486 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Was William Alexander from the Alexanders (as in Alexandria) of Virginia? They were very prominent in Virginia at the time. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C545A6.A2BFD486 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6603.0 Received: from navgw.pwc.ad ([10.9.3.27]) by exchange.pwc.ad with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:40:42 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received: from raptor2.pwcgov.org ([10.14.0.11]) by navgw.pwc.ad (SAVSMTP 3.1.0.29) with SMTP id M2005041921404209028 for <[email protected]>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:40:42 -0400 Received: from pvtsvc.pwcgov.org ([10.12.7.5]) by raptor2.pwcgov.org via smtpd (for navgw.pwc.ad [10.9.3.27]) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:40:23 -0400 Received: from ns1.pvtsvc.pwcgov.org ([66.43.18.41]) by navspam (SMSSMTP 4.0.0.59) with SMTP id M2005041921403605711 for <[email protected]>; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:40:37 -0400 Received: from lists5.rootsweb.com ([66.43.18.41]) by ns1.pvtsvc.pwcgov.org via smtpd (for pvtsvc.pwcgov.org [10.12.7.5]) with ESMTP; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:40:11 -0400 Received: (from [email protected]) by lists5.rootsweb.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) id j3K1VorB026976; Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:31:50 -0600 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Apr 2005 01:40:42.0429 (UTC) FILETIME=[F6BABED0:01C54549] Return-Path: <[email protected]> X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.38 X-Loop: [email protected] In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.0.6 Resent-From: [email protected] Resent-Message-ID: <[email protected]> Resent-Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 19:31:50 -0600 X-Mailing-List: <[email protected]> archive/latest/12473 Resent-Sender: [email protected] X-Original-Sender: [email protected] Tue Apr 19 19:31:49 2005 Old-To: <[email protected]> content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] 5th Company, 1st Battalion, NJ Line Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 21:30:03 -0400 Message-ID: <BE8AFEAB.4310%[email protected]> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [AMER-REV] 5th Company, 1st Battalion, NJ Line Thread-Index: AcVFSfbNudzR2yW9Q+KLn5k8gG6cdQ== From: "Ed St.Germain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: <[email protected]> > 5th Company, 1st Battalion (eastern), Ist > Establishment, Continental Army, New Jersey Line > commanded by Captain Joseph Meeker Well, I can start by telling you there never was any such thing. The Continental Army was sometimes called the Continental Line, and sometimes simply the Establishment. Synonyms, all of them. The New Jersey Regiments that were part of the Continental Army might properly be referred to as the New Jersey Line. Battalion was rarely used, but is a synonym (usually) for regiment. Regiments had numbers. Battalions didn't. Companies did not have numbers. They were designated by their commanders name. Ergo, what you're looking for is Captain Meeker's Company, 1st New = Jersey Regiment, Continental Line. Meeker served from 10 December 1775 to 20 Nov 1776. The regimental commander from 7 Nov 1775 to 1 March 1776 was William Alexander, who used the fanciful title of Lord Stirling. As of 7 March = 1776, the 2nd in regimental command, LtCol William Winds, was promoted to Col. = and took over command and served until 20 Nov of that year. During that time, they participated in the Defense of Canada, the Lake Champlain engagement, and the Northern New Jersey campaign. When enlistments ran out at the end of '76, a whole new regiment was recruited and given the old designation for subsequent campaigns. Best regards, Ed For Revolutionary War Info on the Internet, your first choice should be: www.AmericanRevolution.org =3D=3D=3D=3D AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List =3D=3D=3D=3D Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most = helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx ------_=_NextPart_001_01C545A6.A2BFD486--

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> 5th Company, 1st Battalion (eastern), Ist > Establishment, Continental Army, New Jersey Line > commanded by Captain Joseph Meeker Well, I can start by telling you there never was any such thing. The Continental Army was sometimes called the Continental Line, and sometimes simply the Establishment. Synonyms, all of them. The New Jersey Regiments that were part of the Continental Army might properly be referred to as the New Jersey Line. Battalion was rarely used, but is a synonym (usually) for regiment. Regiments had numbers. Battalions didn't. Companies did not have numbers. They were designated by their commanders name. Ergo, what you're looking for is Captain Meeker's Company, 1st New Jersey Regiment, Continental Line. Meeker served from 10 December 1775 to 20 Nov 1776. The regimental commander from 7 Nov 1775 to 1 March 1776 was William Alexander, who used the fanciful title of Lord Stirling. As of 7 March 1776, the 2nd in regimental command, LtCol William Winds, was promoted to Col. and took over command and served until 20 Nov of that year. During that time, they participated in the Defense of Canada, the Lake Champlain engagement, and the Northern New Jersey campaign. When enlistments ran out at the end of '76, a whole new regiment was recruited and given the old designation for subsequent campaigns. Best regards, Ed For Revolutionary War Info on the Internet, your first choice should be: www.AmericanRevolution.org

> Or Alan Alda ... A great > comedy--can't recall the name. Sweet Liberty (1986.) Many people I know who worked on Mel Gibson's "The Patriot" jokingly refer to Alda's movie as a documentary of what went on during filming of the Patriot. Best regards, Ed For Revolutionary War Info on the Internet, your first choice should be: www.AmericanRevolution.org

Hi All, Does anyone know where I could find the history of the: 5th Company, 1st Battalion (eastern), Ist Establishment, Continental Army, New Jersey Line commanded by Captain Joseph Meeker? I came across a short comment that in May 1776 his company participated in a military expedition to Canada and I would like to find out more details. *Any* info at all would be greatly appreciated. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

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From the Journal of Lt. Frederick MacKenzie, 23d Regt: "18th. April 1775... ...At 8 this night the Commanding Officers of Regiments were sent for to Headquarters, and ordered to have their respective Grenadier and Light Infantry Companies on the beach near the Magazine Guard exactly at 10 oClock this night, with one day's provisions in their Havresacks, and without knapsacks. - They were directed to order their Companies to parade quietly at their respective Barracks, and to march to the place of Rendezvous in small parties, and if challenged to answer 'Patrole.' -The Companies of our Regiment marched accordingly, and were first, complete, at the place of parade; Here we found a number of the Men of War's and Transports boats in waiting. - As there was no Public Officer attending to superintend the Embarkation, which it was evident would take up a good deal of time, our two Companies, with the approbation of the Officers of the Navy, embarked in the nearest boats, and pushed off a little way from shore. As the other Companies arrived soon after, as many men embarked as the boats would contain. By this time Lieut. Colo. Smith of the 10, who was to have the Command, arrived, and with him Major Pitcairn of the Marines. The boats then put off, and rowed towards Phipp’s Farm, where having landed the troops they returned for the remainder and landed them at the same place. This was not completed until 12 o’Clock. The Companies embarked are, Grenadiers - 4th., 5th., 10th., 18th., 23rd., 38th., 43rd., 47th., 59th., Regts. 1st. & 2nd. Marines. Light Infantry - 4th., 5th., 10th., 23rd., 38th., 43rd., 47th., 59th., & 1st. & 2nd. Marines. Lt. Colo. Smith, & Major Pitcairn are the two Field Officers first for duty, and the Senior of each rank. The town was a good deal agitated and alarmed at this Movement, by means of the Seamen who came on shore from the Ships, about 2 o’clock, that the boats were ordered to be in readiness."

Hello, Would someone have a list of movies that have been produced over the years on the "battles of the American Revolution" or related material either on video or CD? Thanks, Sincerely, Steve

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