Mark- For tories around fort Pitt look here: http://digital.library.pitt.edu/cgi-bin/t/text/pageviewer-idx?c=pitttext;cc=pitttext;sid=94755a5629967a57e3dbe533cdf7d489;q1=history%20of%20fayette%20county;rgn=full%20text;idno=00aft2784m;view=image;seq=0070 Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV

Some Tennessee Heroes of the Revolution Source: Some Tennessee heroes of the Revolution. Armstrong, Zella.. Baltimore. Genealogical Pub. Co.. 1975.  Notes:   Reprint. Originally published in 5 pamphlets: Chattanooga, Tenn. : Lookout Pub. Co., 1933-1944. Subjects:   Military pensions -- Tennessee. Tennessee United States -- History -- Revolution, 1775-1783 I can search this book for your Rev. War ancestor. Give surname & given name ..... judy [email protected]  

Sorry for the mass cross posting but I'm sure there are thousands of descendents of the people buried in the Cooley / Hatt Cemetery on these lists. Anyone who suspects that they have United Empire Loyalist roots would probably have kinfolk buried there. I boggles the mind how a 220 year old cemetery can be considered "Unapproved" Nelson Denton Hamilton Ontario Historian Genealogist Pipe Organ Builder. > For anyone on this list who is of the opinion that their descendants are > buried in the Cooley/Hatt cemetery (or knows of anyone that would be > interested in this), I would suggest that you contact Michael D'Mello > immediately. The City of Hamilton has declared the Cooley cemetery to be > an "Unapproved Cemetery." The land owners want to relocate this cemetery > containing 99 bodies - many of which were Loyalists - for the purpose of > development. > > Please see notice below: Re: Burial Site located at the Proposed Lime Kiln Road Subdivision, Part > of Lots 48 & 49, Concession 2 and the Wildwood Estates 5 (Block 3, 62M-898), > Part of Lot 48, Concession 2 (Formerly within the Township of Ancaster), > City of Hamilton. (Physically located in a field off Rousseaux St. between > Greenravine Dr. and Lime Kiln Rd.) > > Take notice that on November 30, 2004 a burial site at the above location > was reported to the Registrar of the Cemeteris Act (Revised). > > An investigation conducted under the provisions of the Cemeteries Act > (Revised) indicates the discovery of 99 distinct grave shafts. This early > pioneer cemetery circa 1786-1824, now archaeologically known as the Cooley > Cemetery, is likely the original cemetery for the Ancaster community. > Members of the Cooley and Hatt families are known to be buried here. > > The Registrar hereby gives notice of the intention to declare the site to > be an "Unapproved Cemetery," and invites representatives of persons whose > remains are still interred to contact the Registrar in writing within two > weeks after May 13, 2005. > > Dated at Toronto this 6th day of May 2005. > Michael D'Mello > Registrar, Cemeteries Act (Revised) > Cemeteries Regulation Unit > Ministry of Consumer and Business Services > 250 Yonge Street, 32nd Floor > Toronto, Ontario M5B 2N5 > Telephone: 416-326-8393, Fax: 416-326-8406

Hi Mark: I am sorry that I don't have any on-line sources right off hand as I didn't use many. I suggest that you google "Jacob Brake" +Claypool; "Timothy Dorman" +Buckhannon; and "Simon Schoolcraft" +Canada or Loyalist. Be advised that there is more to the story on Brake, and a LOT more to the story on Dorman. Dorman is one of my pet projects. You might also check to see if John Crawford's narrative from the Draper papers is on line, if you want info . SW PA. Sounds like your ancestors were in many of the same places as mine, including the 13th VA and West Fort. Good luck. Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV

Amen Warren to the little being done on the subject of the Tories! I have a pile of stuff on loyalists out here (WV). There was a major uprising in 1777, others in 1781, and 1782, they had agents all over the place, communications were being passed between the frontiers and Detroit, some were hanged, in SW PA they had their own militia and covert court complete with justices etc., but alas most of the writers over the nineteenth century had a decidedly (small "R") republican bias and anyone who didn't have a glowing contribution to the Revolution to boast of (or anyone for whom one couldn't be invented) has been ignored. I have articles in my head about Jacob Brake, Timothy Dorman, the Schoolcraft brothers, and a host of others whom I suspect of being in league with Hamilton and old King George but it will be a long time before I can get any ready.Hang in there with the Friend lady! Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV

David, Would you provide some online sources for further reading on the Tories of SW PA? One of my ancestors (Charles Botkin) served in the 13th VA during the Rev War. His regiment was garrisoned at Ft. Pitt and built Ft. Lauren's to be used to attack Ft. Detroit. Another ancestor (Jeremiah Curl) was with a Schoolcraft when attacked by Indians in 1778 around Wests Fort. (Wests Fort is near Jane Lew WV about 15-20 miles south on Hwy 79 from Clarksburg) Here's the story: Chronicles of Border Warfare Alexander S. Withers Two days after this, as Jeremiah Curl, Henry Fink and Edmand West, who were old men, and Alexander West, Peter Cutright and Simon Schoolcraft, were returning to the fort with some of their neighbor's property, they were fired at by the Indians who were lying concealed along a run bank. Curl was slightly wounded under the chin, but disdaining to fly without making a stand he called to his companions, "stand your ground for we are able to whip them." At this instant, a lusty warrior drew a tomahawk from his belt and rushed towards him. Nothing daunted by the danger which seemed to threaten him, Curl raised his gun; but the powder being damped by the blood from his wound, it did not fire. He instantly picked up West's gun (which he had been carrying to relieve of part of his burden) and discharging it at his assailant, brought him to the ground. Thanks, Mark Allen ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Armstrong" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 3:38 PM Subject: [AMER-REV] Loyalists > Amen Warren to the little being done on the subject of the Tories! I have a pile of stuff on loyalists out here (WV). There was a major uprising in 1777, others in 1781, and 1782, they had agents all over the place, communications were being passed between the frontiers and Detroit, some were hanged, in SW PA they had their own militia and covert court complete with justices etc., but alas most of the writers over the nineteenth century had a decidedly (small "R") republican bias and anyone who didn't have a glowing contribution to the Revolution to boast of (or anyone for whom one couldn't be invented) has been ignored. I have articles in my head about Jacob Brake, Timothy Dorman, the Schoolcraft brothers, and a host of others whom I suspect of being in league with Hamilton and old King George but it will be a long time before I can get any ready.Hang in there with the Friend lady! > > Best Regards > > David Armstrong > Elkins, WV > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Great story, thank you for sharing! Cyndi ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed St.Germain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 8:00 PM Subject: [AMER-REV] jury service > This is off topic, but it's such a great story I gotta tell it. > > Today we were selecting a jury. > > My opposing counsel started his questioning with a facetious query about how > no one actually wants to serve on a jury, and asked a rhetorical question to > the effect of: "There isn't anyone here who actually wants to serve, is > there?" > > One guy raised his hand. > > My opposing counsel ignored him and moved on to something else, thinking the > same thing I was - if this guy *wants* to serve, he's gotta be some kind of > nut, and we'll excuse him as quick as we can. > > When my turn came, I had a feeling, so I asked him: "Do you seriously want > to serve?" > > "Yes." > > "Why?" > > He started out by saying he had been a naturalized American for forty years, > that jury service was a sacred right that untold numbers of Americans had > died for, that he thought it was sickening that so many people went out of > their way to get out of it, and other, similar comments. > > I could almost hear the National Anthem in the background. > > When he finished, you could've heard a pin drop. I said "God bless you, sir" > and sat down. Then, everybody in the courtroom, including the judge, broke > out in applause. > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

This is off topic, but it's such a great story I gotta tell it. Today we were selecting a jury. My opposing counsel started his questioning with a facetious query about how no one actually wants to serve on a jury, and asked a rhetorical question to the effect of: "There isn't anyone here who actually wants to serve, is there?" One guy raised his hand. My opposing counsel ignored him and moved on to something else, thinking the same thing I was - if this guy *wants* to serve, he's gotta be some kind of nut, and we'll excuse him as quick as we can. When my turn came, I had a feeling, so I asked him: "Do you seriously want to serve?" "Yes." "Why?" He started out by saying he had been a naturalized American for forty years, that jury service was a sacred right that untold numbers of Americans had died for, that he thought it was sickening that so many people went out of their way to get out of it, and other, similar comments. I could almost hear the National Anthem in the background. When he finished, you could've heard a pin drop. I said "God bless you, sir" and sat down. Then, everybody in the courtroom, including the judge, broke out in applause.

Can anyone on this List add to the following information about my ancestor, Conrad Schaffer, Sr., and his possible involvement in the Revolutionary War? He lived in Pennsylvania, parts unknown, from 1751 until after 1772. He and his family moved to Loudoun County, Virginia, some time between 1772 and 1780. Conrad Schaffer, Sr, (umlaut over a in Schaffer) is sometimes referred to as Conrad Bill Shafer, due to what I'm told is a mixup about his will (will-bill). I recall some correspondence with Bob Brooks about this not long ago. Conrad, Sr., sailed from Germany or Austria on the ship Neptune, arriving at Philadelphia on Sept. 24, 1751, at age 5, with a Johann Bernhard S(c)haffer. Conrad, Sr., married Elizabeth ? about 1767, in Pennsylvania, and they had 8 children: William, Conrad, Mary, born 1772; Susanna, b 1780; Johannes, Elizabeth, Magdalene, Margaret The first 3 children were born in Pennsylvania; the rest, beginning with Susanna, were born in Loudoun County, Virginia. Conrad, Sr. died about 1821 in Leesburg, Loudoun County, Va. Conrad Shaffer's name was originally Schaffer; he dropped the C. His son, Conrad, Jr., dropped an F. Some other forms of the name found locally in Loudoun County are: Shaffer, Shaffor, Shaver, Shavers, Shavour. Conrad Shafer, Jr., was born 1771, in Pennsylvania; married Mary Magdalene Rasier (or Rasor) on June 10, 1799, in Loudoun County, Va, and died in Mount Ephraim, Noble County, Ohio, March 6, 1862 Conrad Shafer, Jr, was a soldier in the War of 1812 for a short time. (History of Noble County, Ohio). He and his family moved to Guernsey County, Ohio, in 1813. (Noble County was much later created out of parts of Guernsey and several other counties.) Thank you, Anne Sennish [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Below are some pertinent facts from another Shafer descendant: Anne , It is mentioned in some old papers I have from my Dad's cousins that corresponded about the Conrad Shafer from Ohio (he's the one who served in the war of 1812 ) that Conrad Shaffer Sr. was in the French and Indian War, 1745 to 1755 (that would put him around 10 at the end of it), and the Revolutionary War. The records would have to be from Pennsylvania and some time after he was married in 1768, with a family. I have never been able to turn anything up on this. I have also not been able to find anything on Johann Bernhard ( or Lenhart; you would think others would have researched this line) Schaffer who came with Conrad on the ship Neptune Sept. 24th, 1751. I can find no information on this man; it has to be his brother or his father. It's like he disappeared after he came. I know Conrad Jr. served in the War of 1812; my dad's cousins sent him copies of his pay vouchers. These ladies were born in the 1880's, a lot closer to him then we will ever be. You may have to check out 3 states we know he lived in: Pennsylvania, so he at least stayed in Philadelphia a short while and I m guessing he went to Va. about 1800, maybe earlier, could have had land grants, and he passed land to William and Conrad Shaffer and John Rasor that was located in Maryland. This could be his land he bought or land grants from war or because women didn't have rights back then (case in point John Rasor son-in law) his wife's fathers land. Feel free to forward to all your contacts and maybe some one can help solve this puzzle. A distant cousin, Dick Shafer

Jesse HODGES b 1760 VA d p 1832 KY m. (1) Mrs. George PVT VA PNSR As recoded DAR PATRIOT Index page 1325 edition 2003 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brent Morgan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 7:11 PM Subject: [AMER-REV] Re: Jesse HODGES, served from VA applied for his pension in Madison Co, KY > Mary: You can go to the DAR website, www.dar.org and request a free patriot > lookup. > > Brent Morgan > Cleveland > > > Has anyone filled DAR application thru Jesse HODGES, who served on the > > western territory under Gen RODGERS? > > He was from Goochland Co VA b 1760 to John and Deborah LEE HODGES; he died > > Dec 1838 according to his pension records. I am looking for his wife and > > children's names, thanks, Mary > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Thank you.Kevin On 5/14/05, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > 1) Belding, John born 1756 and died 1839, born and died in > Ashfield, Massachusetts. wife's name Priscilla. > > > dar patriot index > page 196 > > john belding > born 12/17/1756 ma > died 3/25/1839 ma > married priscilla wait > pvt ma > > 2) Clark, Richard born 1757 in england died in 1839 or 1841 in NJ. > He served in the NJ militia. his wife's nams was Elizabeth. > > dar patriot index page 531 > > richard clark > born5/12/1752 england > died 4/21/1837 ny > married elizabeth dubham > pvt. nj > > > > > > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION list, send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Wednesday, June 22-REVOLUTIONARY WAR Lecture Stanley Weintraub will discuss his book, Iron Tears: America's Battle for Freedom, Britain's Quagmire: 1775-1783 (Free Press, 2005). For generations, Americans have been taught to view the Revolutionary War as a heroic tale of resistance, exclusively from the perspective of the Continental army and the Founding Fathers. Historian Stanley Weintraub offers the first account that examines the war from three divergent and distinct vantage points: the battlefields; the American leadership under George Washington; and -- most originally -- that of England, embroiled in controversy over the war. Noon. Jefferson Conference Room. Thursday, June 30- DAVID MCCULLOUGH, 1776 Lecture David McCullough will discuss his latest book, 1776 (Simon and Schuster, 2005) where he tells the intensely human story of those who marched with General George Washington in the year of the Declaration of Independence -- when the whole American cause was riding on their success, without which all hope for independence would have been dashed and the noble ideals of the Declaration would have amounted to little more than words on paper. Based on extensive research in both American and British archives, 1776 is a powerful drama written with extraordinary narrative vitality. It is the story of Americans in the ranks, and it is the story of the King's men. Here also is the Revolution as experienced by American Loyalists, Hessian mercenaries, politicians, preachers, traitors, spies, men and women of all kinds caught in the paths of war. McCullough was the first recipient of the Foundation for the National Archives "Records of Achievement" Award. 7:00 p.m. William G. McGowan Theater. # # # For PRESS information, contact the National Archives Public Affairs staff at (202) 501-5526. To verify the date and times of the programs, the public should call the Public Programs Line at: (202) 501-5000, the hearing impaired should call TDD (202) 501-5404 for information, or view the Calendar of Events on the web at www.archives.gov/about_us/calendar_of_events/index.html

Mary: You can go to the DAR website, www.dar.org and request a free patriot lookup. Brent Morgan Cleveland > Has anyone filled DAR application thru Jesse HODGES, who served on the > western territory under Gen RODGERS? > He was from Goochland Co VA b 1760 to John and Deborah LEE HODGES; he died > Dec 1838 according to his pension records. I am looking for his wife and > children's names, thanks, Mary >

1) Belding, John born 1756 and died 1839,  born and died in Ashfield, Massachusetts. wife's name Priscilla. dar patriot index page 196 john belding born 12/17/1756 ma died 3/25/1839 ma married priscilla wait pvt ma 2) Clark, Richard  born 1757 in england died in 1839 or 1841 in NJ.           He served in the NJ militia. his wife's nams was Elizabeth. dar patriot index page 531 richard clark born5/12/1752 england died 4/21/1837 ny married elizabeth dubham pvt. nj

Has anyone filled DAR application thru Jesse HODGES, who served on the western territory under  Gen RODGERS? He was from Goochland Co VA b 1760 to John and Deborah LEE HODGES; he died Dec 1838 according to his pension records.  I am looking for his wife and children's names ancestry.com Jesse Hodges B: 10 Nov 1760 [city], [county], VA, USA D: Dec 1838 [city], Madison, KY, USA Elizabeth Collins B: 28 Aug 1760 [city], Pittsylvania, VA, USA D: 8 Jan 1842 [city], Mcnairy, TN, USA children listed Frances Fanny Hodges B: 1790 [city], Pittsylvania, VA, USA D: 1860 Holly Springs, Dallas, AR, USA Joshua Hodges B: 1799 Pittsylvania, [county], VA, USA D: 11 Oct 1837 Henderson, [county], TN, USA Huldah Hodges B: 1800 [city], [county], TN, USA D: 1850 Elizabeth C Teague B: 14 May 1801 Statesville, Wilson, TN, USA D: 12 Jun 1890 Creedmore, Travis, TX, USA William D Hodges B: 16 Apr 1816 [city], [county], TN, USA D: 8 Dec 1857 [city], Wood, TX, USA also they have this Jesse B Hodges B: 11 Feb 1754 [city], Halifax, VA, USA D: 18 Mar 1841 [city], Meigs, TN, USA Elizabeth Collins B: 28 Aug 1760 [city], Pittsylvania, VA, USA D: 8 Jan 1842 [city], Mcnairy, TN, USA children listed Elisha Hodges Francis Hodges Mary Hodges James Cavin 1776 VA William Cayson1778 Jesse B 1780 Jeremiah 1785 Marcus 1786 Nephanon 1788 Frances Fanny 1790 Tibitha 1792 Elisha 1794 Elija 1795 Susanna 1796 Nancy 1799 Thomas Coillins 1799 Elizabeth C 17801 Harvey 1803

The date of my Jesse HODGES appear correct, but none of the children appear to be his. I do have the settlement of his estate from Madison Co KY dated 25 Aug 1840. He also appears in the history of Boonesbough and acts as a surveyer in Madison Co. I suppose this is another example of earlier not such good research... Thank you for your help, Mary -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, May 14, 2005 3:20 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [AMER-REV] AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest Jesse Hodges Has anyone filled DAR application thru Jesse HODGES, who served on the western territory under  Gen RODGERS? He was from Goochland Co VA b 1760 to John and Deborah LEE HODGES; he died Dec 1838 according to his pension records.  I am looking for his wife and children's names ancestry.com Jesse Hodges B: 10 Nov 1760 [city], [county], VA, USA D: Dec 1838 [city], Madison, KY, USA Elizabeth Collins B: 28 Aug 1760 [city], Pittsylvania, VA, USA D: 8 Jan 1842 [city], Mcnairy, TN, USA children listed Frances Fanny Hodges B: 1790 [city], Pittsylvania, VA, USA D: 1860 Holly Springs, Dallas, AR, USA Joshua Hodges B: 1799 Pittsylvania, [county], VA, USA D: 11 Oct 1837 Henderson, [county], TN, USA Huldah Hodges B: 1800 [city], [county], TN, USA D: 1850 Elizabeth C Teague B: 14 May 1801 Statesville, Wilson, TN, USA D: 12 Jun 1890 Creedmore, Travis, TX, USA William D Hodges B: 16 Apr 1816 [city], [county], TN, USA D: 8 Dec 1857 [city], Wood, TX, USA also they have this Jesse B Hodges B: 11 Feb 1754 [city], Halifax, VA, USA D: 18 Mar 1841 [city], Meigs, TN, USA Elizabeth Collins B: 28 Aug 1760 [city], Pittsylvania, VA, USA D: 8 Jan 1842 [city], Mcnairy, TN, USA children listed Elisha Hodges Francis Hodges Mary Hodges James Cavin 1776 VA William Cayson1778 Jesse B 1780 Jeremiah 1785 Marcus 1786 Nephanon 1788 Frances Fanny 1790 Tibitha 1792 Elisha 1794 Elija 1795 Susanna 1796 Nancy 1799 Thomas Coillins 1799 Elizabeth C 17801 Harvey 1803 ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Has anyone filled DAR application thru Jesse HODGES, who served on the western territory under  Gen RODGERS? He was from Goochland Co VA b 1760 to John and Deborah LEE HODGES; he died Dec 1838 according to his pension records.  I am looking for his wife and children's names. in the dar patriot index jesse hodges born 1760 va d p 1832 ky m-mrs. george pvt. va pnsr

Has anyone filled DAR application thru Jesse HODGES, who served on the western territory under Gen RODGERS? He was from Goochland Co VA b 1760 to John and Deborah LEE HODGES; he died Dec 1838 according to his pension records. I am looking for his wife and children's names, thanks, Mary

Hello Everyone, Can anyone who can access the SAR records look for r=the 2 following men. 1) Belding, John born 1756 and died 1839, born and died in Ashfield, Massachusetts. wife's name Priscilla. 2) Clark, Richard born 1757 in england died in 1839 or 1841 in NJ. He served in the NJ militia. his wife's nams was Elizabeth. Thank you. Kevin J. Olvaney

I am looking for information on my grandfather, Eddie F. Wilson. He was born in Nebraska and passed away in Compton, California, Sept. 22, 1957. Interment at Highland Cemetery in Lawton, Oklahoma, but he did have services in Morland or Marland Mortuary in Compton, Calif. I know that he was married at least twice. He had 2 children by his first marriage , my father, Vincent Muriel and a daughter Glayds. Any info will be appreciated. Faith Wilson Peperone 03:00 PM 5/11/2005, [email protected] wrote: >AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 93 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Albany Militia ["John F. Crossen" > <[email protected]] > #2 Lt. David Dewer(s), Loyalist ["John F. Crossen" > <[email protected]] > #3 Re: [AMER-REV] Lt. David Dewer(s), [[email protected]] > #4 Re: [AMER-REV] Lt. David Dewer(s), ["Bob Brooks" <[email protected]>] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe, send an e-mail message to: >[email protected] >In the body include only one word: unsubscribe >(Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command) > > > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:47:52 -0700 (PDT) >From: "John F. Crossen" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Albany Militia >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Hi Everybody! > >Still exploring various colonial lines in my family... >Came upon the following gentleman: > >Henry Sherman, father of my g-grandmother Deborah >Sherman Duers. > >He was apparently in the Albany Militia in New York. >What do you folks know about this unit? (Ed, I'm >thinking you may have something.) I'll go ahead and >Google and see what I find. > >Best, John > >"Letter writing is the only device for combining solitude and good company." > - Lord Byron (1788-1824) > >"One more shot for the honour of Down!" > > - Rollicking Rollo (1766-1814) > Hero of County Down, IR > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > >______________________________X-Message: #2 >Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 18:52:34 -0700 (PDT) >From: "John F. Crossen" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Lt. David Dewer(s), Loyalist >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >One of my g-grandfathers is a bit of a cypher... David >Dewers (or Duers). Before his marriage to Deborah >Sherman of Dartmouth, Mass. in 1770, there is no >record of him. And his activity during the War is a >mystery. He and the Sherman family eventually settled >in Albany, NY. His father-in-law, Henry Sherman, was >in the Albany Militia. David either died or >"disappeared" before 1790. > >Now, I did locate a David Dewer(s) on a list of >Loyalist officers for the 71st Regiment. Could this be >him? He was a lieutenant. > >Hoping someone might be able to shed light on this >mystery-ancestor. > >Best, John > > >"Letter writing is the only device for combining solitude and good company." > - Lord Byron (1788-1824) > >"One more shot for the honour of Down!" > > - Rollicking Rollo (1766-1814) > Hero of County Down, IR > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ >Yahoo! Mail Mobile >Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail > >______________________________X-Message: #3 >Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 22:54:14 EDT >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] Lt. David Dewer(s), Loyalist >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > > >You could also try Dewars. Scottiish name? Anne > >In a message dated 5/10/2005 9:53:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, >[email protected] writes: > >One of my g-grandfathers is a bit of a cypher... David >Dewers (or Duers). Before his marriage to Deborah >Sherman of Dartmouth, Mass. in 1770, there is no >record of him. And his activity during the War is a >mystery. He and the Sherman family eventually settled >in Albany, NY. His father-in-law, Henry Sherman, was >in the Albany Militia. David either died or >"disappeared" before 1790. > >Now, I did locate a David Dewer(s) on a list of >Loyalist officers for the 71st Regiment. Could this be >him? He was a lieutenant. > >Hoping someone might be able to shed light on this >mystery-ancestor. > >Best, John > > >"Letter writing is the only device for combining solitude and good company." >- Lord Byron (1788-1824) > >"One more shot for the honour of Down!" > >- Rollicking Rollo (1766-1814) >Hero of County Down, IR > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ >Yahoo! Mail Mobile >Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Check email on your mobile phone. >http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== >List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: >Diana Boothe [email protected] > >============================== >New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=54 >29 > >______________________________X-Message: #4 >Date: Wed, 11 May 2005 07:49:13 -0400 >From: "Bob Brooks" <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Message-ID: <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] Lt. David Dewer(s), Loyalist >Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; > charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >John -- > >>Now, I did locate a David Dewer(s) on a list of >>Loyalist officers for the 71st Regiment. Could this be >>him? He was a lieutenant. > >I am suprised that he is listed as a "Loyalist officer" because the 71st >Regiment of Highland Foot was a "regular" army regiment comprising two >battalions. Kmown as "Fraser's Higlanders" the regiment was formed in >Scotand in 1775-1776 and departed Greenock for America in late April 1776, >bound for Boston which had been evacuated by that time. Of the >approximately 2098 officers & men, 160 womenm and 16 servants of the 71st >Regiment who departed in 22 transport ships, about 500-550 were captured >at sea by US forces. A few over 100 men with another 100+ men belonging >to the 42nd Regiment ("Royal Highlanders" -- now known as the Black >Watch") taken at the the same time ended up dispersed throughout the jails >of western Virginia. The other 400+ POWs of the 71st Regiment were >interred throughout Mass. The 71st was stripped of its flank companies >and its 16 remaning infantry companies were involved in the Long Island, >Philadelphia, Savannah, and "Southern" campaigns. The 71st had one >battalion captured at Cowpens and the other battalion surrendered at >Yorktown. Of the flank companies, one company was captured at Stony >Point. In Oct 1777, replacement recruits just arrived at New York were >park of the storming of Fort Clinton where they performed in exemplary >fashion with heavy losses. > >I am not aware of any Colonialists being allowed to purchase commissions >in the 71st Regiment although I know that some of the commissioned >officers of the 71st Regiment commanded Loyalist units. If memory serves, >one was a cavalry troop called something like the Georgia Light Horse. > >Commissions in the 71st were by purchase. The only Dewar holding an army >commission as of 30 June 1780 was David Dewar, an Ensign in the 1st >Battalion, 71st Regiment with a date of rank in the regiment of 02 Nov >1778. He next held a commission as Lieutenant in the same regiment with a >date of rank of 05 Nov 1780. > >Again if memory serves, David Dewar's first date of rank (02 Nov 1778) >found the 71st enroute from New York to the Savannah River; however, it >may have been a day or two prior to the departure. This suggests that >David Dewar was already with the regiment serving as a "Cadwt" or >"Volunteer." Of course, David Dewar could have purchased his commission >in Scotland and didn't join the regiment for quite sme time. > >Bob Brooks