Debbie There are two Thomas Whitlocks in Eckenrode with residences listed. One from Brunswick and one from Halifax Co. A third entry doesn't gove a place of residence. This one is in the 7th VA Regiment. There is a record of a James Farmer in the VA Auditors accounts Vol 28 You may already have this info. Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV >

David, Here's the best I can offer, and I offer it antecdotally. I had a relative in the 10th NC Line Regiment in the Continental Army. However, he didn't join until the last 3 years of the war. Scholors say that the 10th was dissolved by then. Near as I can *guess, *some units kept their own names, even though they were officially mixed into other Regiments. James David Armstrong wrote: >Query: Does anyone have evidence of a Continental Army unit designated the 14th Virginia in 1781? Sanchez-Saavedra says that the 14th was renumbered in 1778 and there was no 14th after that. I have uncovered evidence, however, that seems to indicate that Thomas Gaskins Virginia Regiment of 1781 was designated the 14th. I have posed this question to the right people at the Virginia State Archives and they don't know either. Any info would be of interest as my ancestor, Robert Brown, was in that unit. > >Again thanks to all who have responded to my various posts to the list.' > >Best Regards > >David Armstrong >Elkins, WV > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== >List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: >Diana Boothe [email protected] > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > >

Hello Request any War record on a Thomas WHITLOCK who married Hannah Phillips. He was born circa 1745, probably in Louisa Co Va; Lived in the part of Montgomery Co Va that became Wythe County, VA. He died after 1830. James FARMER born 1758 in Montgomery County area that became Grayson County VA. His wife was Susannah. he died in Carroll County VA, 12 Aug 1838. Your time and work is appreciated! Debbie Wood __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html

Query: Does anyone have evidence of a Continental Army unit designated the 14th Virginia in 1781? Sanchez-Saavedra says that the 14th was renumbered in 1778 and there was no 14th after that. I have uncovered evidence, however, that seems to indicate that Thomas Gaskins Virginia Regiment of 1781 was designated the 14th. I have posed this question to the right people at the Virginia State Archives and they don't know either. Any info would be of interest as my ancestor, Robert Brown, was in that unit. Again thanks to all who have responded to my various posts to the list.' Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV

Will someone e-mail me the original query; I have South Carolina Burton direct ancestor and missed the thread origin. Dolly

Lynn, At first view they do not seem to fit. I will give it a more through look a little laterand let you know. Thanks for your post. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Brandvold" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:16 AM Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] To honor the memory of our Revolutionary War ancesteprs > Bridgett, > > I have information on James Carr posted on World Connect at > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lynnb&id=I78 > > James also had a brother, John and I also have some information posted > on him. > > Let me know what you think. > > Lynn > > gsrf02627 wrote: > > > Please tell me more about your James Carr/Kerr. I have been searching for > > quite awhile for information on an ancestor who is either James or John Carr > > from the Greenbrier/Monroe Virginia area. > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Bridgett > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Lynn Brandvold" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 3:31 PM > > Subject: [AMER-REV] To honor the memory of our Revolutionary War ancesteprs > > > > > > > >>I would also like to honor my ancestors who served in the Revolutionary > > > > War. > > > >>Captain Benjamin Elliot, 3rd Dutchess County, NY Militia, fought at the > >>Battle of White Plains, NY > >> > >>Nathaniel Cary, signed the Dutchess County NY Articles of Association, > >>Ensign in the Beekman Regiment of Minute Men, 2nd Lieut. in the Fourth > >>Dutchess County Company of Minute Men of Pawling, NY. > >> > >>James Carr/Kerr, Virginia Militia, fought at the Battle of Point > >>Pleasant near Lewisburg, WA. > >> > >>Lieutenant John Howard, Overmountain Men, NC/TN > >> > >>Thanks for the opportunity. > >> > >>Lynn Brandvold > >>Socorro, NM > >> > >> > >>==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > >>We have archives! Search for your AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information > > > > here..... > > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION > > > >>============================== > >>Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > >>Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 > >

John, not to my knowledge. I supposedly have Carrs who fought in the Revolution but from Virginia. Possibly Maryland. Thanks for your post. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John F. Crossen" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:41 PM Subject: [AMER-REV] Off-Topic: Carr > Hi: > > Bridgett-- > > Would you be any relation to John B. Carr, formerly of > Venango County, PA? He was in the CW, the 2nd husband > of my g-g-g-grandmother Nancy Morrison Flatt Carr > (1819-aft. 1890). > > Best, John > > --- Lynn Brandvold <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Bridgett, > > > > I have information on James Carr posted on World > > Connect at > > > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=lynnb&id=I78 > > > > James also had a brother, John and I also have some > > information posted > > on him. > > > > Let me know what you think. > > > > Lynn > > > > gsrf02627 wrote: > > > > > Please tell me more about your James Carr/Kerr. I > > have been searching for > > > quite awhile for information on an ancestor who is > > either James or John Carr > > > from the Greenbrier/Monroe Virginia area. > > > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > > > Bridgett > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Lynn Brandvold" <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 3:31 PM > > > Subject: [AMER-REV] To honor the memory of our > > Revolutionary War ancesteprs > > > > > > > > > > > >>I would also like to honor my ancestors who served > > in the Revolutionary > > > > > > War. > > > > > >>Captain Benjamin Elliot, 3rd Dutchess County, NY > > Militia, fought at the > > >>Battle of White Plains, NY > > >> > > >>Nathaniel Cary, signed the Dutchess County NY > > Articles of Association, > > >>Ensign in the Beekman Regiment of Minute Men, 2nd > > Lieut. in the Fourth > > >>Dutchess County Company of Minute Men of Pawling, > > NY. > > >> > > >>James Carr/Kerr, Virginia Militia, fought at the > > Battle of Point > > >>Pleasant near Lewisburg, WA. > > >> > > >>Lieutenant John Howard, Overmountain Men, NC/TN > > >> > > >>Thanks for the opportunity. > > >> > > >>Lynn Brandvold > > >>Socorro, NM > > >> > > >> > > >>==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > >>We have archives! Search for your > > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information > > > > > > here..... > > > > > > > > > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION > > > > > >>============================== > > >>Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so > > much more. > > >>Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland > > Collection. Learn more: > > > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > >> > > >>-- > > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > > >>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > >>Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - > > Release Date: 5/25/2005 > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > > Check out other genealogy resources on the net at > > John Fuller's most helpful site > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > > > > > > ============================== > > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and > > Death Records. > > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > > List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: > > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > > not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > "Letter writing is the only device for combining solitude and good company." > - Lord Byron (1788-1824) > > "One more shot for the honour of Down!" > > - Rollicking Rollo (1766-1814) > Hero of County Down, IR > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet > http://www.snopes.com/ > <A HREF="http://www.snopes.com/">Snopes.com</a> > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.322 / Virus Database: 266.11.17 - Release Date: 5/25/2005 > >

Is this JOSIAH BURTON the son of HUTCHINS NOWELL HUNT BURTON and JUDITH ALLEN? Thanks for your help..Mary Mc in Ga. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tanimara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] Revolutionary War ancestors Josiah Burton > Any connections to VT or NH? > File # W 20812 > Josiah Burton > > Gives wife Abigail Colburn, surviving children, Polly Mrs. Levi Goodrich, > and Betsey, Widow of charles Barnum. Josiah lists brother John. > > I can send info if you think he connects. > > Jackie > > Mary Mcpherson wrote: > >> Would you give me some information on your JOSIAH BURTON? i AM looking >> for his children...Mary Mc in Ga. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ester Eads" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, May 30, 2005 12:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] To honor the memory of our Revolutionary War >> ancestors >> >> >>> I'd like to honor my patriots: >>> >>> William Pratt >>> Josiah Burton >>> Hugh Randolph >>> >>> All from South Carolina >>> >>> Ester Eads >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== >>> To unsubscribe from the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION list, send the command >>> "unsubscribe" to >>> [email protected] (if in mail mode) or >>> [email protected] (if in digest mode.) >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== >> Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most >> helpful site >> http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> >> > > -- > > *"A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo grass" * > > *Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux * > > *County Coordinator Ripley Co MO GenWeb* > <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emoripley/> > > *Moderator HarringtonGen* <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harringtongen/> > > *Owner/Breeder Tanimara Great Pyrenees - Livestock Guardians* > <http://www.geocities.com/tanimara_2000/> > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Jackie: Thank you so much for the information on JARRET BURTON, I always felt they came from Virginia, thru Kentucky, perhaps on to Tennessee then on to NC, but did not have any place to start looking....I also will check the JOHN BURTON out that listed him as from Hertford NC...Thanks again for your assistance...Mary Mc inG a ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tanimara" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] Revolutionary War ancestors Josiah Burton > Mary, > > I'll give you the basics on each file. They are all hand written and hard > to read. There are many pages with each name (up to 20) so lets see if we > can narrow it down before I send the pages... just let me know. I did > glance over the entire Burton listings and none are shown from SC but that > is not unusual. There are too many to read them all but these are the > ones I checked. > > Jackie > > > *Josiah Burton* > File # W20813 > Josiah Burton spouse Abigail COLBORN/COLBURN BURTON > Abagail Burton filed for pension from City of Norwich County of Windsor > State of VT age 87 > Josiah served as a Sargeant in the Rev War Army > Josiah lived in Norwich when he enlisted in 1777 for 3 years and fought > against the Susquahanna Indians. > Josiah andAbigail were married June 23, 1785 > Josiah died March 13th 1814 > Abagail died 19th Oct 1848 > Affidavit of Betsey Barnum her daughter, widow of Charles Barnum dated > 1845 from Norwich VT > Only surviving children of Abagail are Betsey Barnum and Polly Goodrich > wife of Levi Goodrich of Norwich VT. > Josiah was wounded by gunfire (bullet through the leg) while under the > service of Gen. Sullivan, on the Indian campaign. > No other family info is given - 6 pages > > *Jarret/Jarrett Burton* (File # R1517)of VA served from that state, filed > from Macon Co KY - no family info available. > > *James Burton* (File # S48412/BLWT1924-300) Served from VA, b. Orange Co > VA, wife Elizabeth, children, James, William, John, Bezaleel/Besabel, > Francis Goodrich, Ann Elizabeth Burton, Nancy Brown, Ursula Burton, > Elizabeth Stone, and Polly A. Brent. In 1833 the only son living was > Besabel and he is shortly 21. > > *James Burton* (File# ) enlisted CT, filed for App from CT, died Dozer NY, > wife Naoma. > > *John Burton*, File # R1518, filed from Guersey Co Ohio in 1838., enlisted > from Buckley Co VA. Spouse Sarah. Affadavit of Christian Clark, formally > Christian Burton, dated Oct 1850 from Gurnsey Co Ohio. She is the child > of John Burton Sr. She mentions her sister Margaret Speers and brothers > Bazil (parts unknown) and John, all of Ohio but Bazil. Per her affadavit, > her parents lived in VA, PA and Ohio. > > *John Burton* File # R1519 , filed from NY, enlisted NY, lived in RI when > he enlisted. > > *John Burton* File # S32146, enlisted while living in Mecklenburg Co VA, > born there, filed from Ill, moved to Rutheford CO TN in 1807 from > Mecklenburg Co VA, then to Sangamon Co Ill in 1827. Died Jan 30, 1839. > Survived by children, names not given, wife's name not given. > > *John Burton*, File #S46831, mustered in, wounded twice at Germantown, and > taken prisioner on Oct 4, 1777, once in the head and once in the hip, > released on the 28th, and discharged on April 30th 1778, Rank, Sargeant in > the 5th VA Regiment, Residence Co. of Henrico VA. Affadavit of daughter > Sarah A Foose. John Burton died Dec 27, 1828 in Henrico Co Va. Mentions he > had 4 children, only mentions Sarah and a son William who was deceased by > 1850. > > *John Burton*, File # W4140, residence Hertford Co NC, died 3 Dec 1800 in > Hertford Co NC, m. Susannah MANER/MANIER BURTON 7th May 1792, Surviving > children are mentioned but not named. John was born in VA. Shsannah > Burton died in Hertford Co NC after the age of 84 but the date is not > given either. > > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION list, send the command > "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

It did not say who his parents were. Jackie *"A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo grass" * *Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux * *County Coordinator Ripley Co MO GenWeb* <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emoripley/> *Moderator HarringtonGen* <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harringtongen/> *Owner/Breeder Tanimara Great Pyrenees - Livestock Guardians* <http://www.geocities.com/tanimara_2000/>

Mary, I'll give you the basics on each file. They are all hand written and hard to read. There are many pages with each name (up to 20) so lets see if we can narrow it down before I send the pages... just let me know. I did glance over the entire Burton listings and none are shown from SC but that is not unusual. There are too many to read them all but these are the ones I checked. Jackie *Josiah Burton* File # W20813 Josiah Burton spouse Abigail COLBORN/COLBURN BURTON Abagail Burton filed for pension from City of Norwich County of Windsor State of VT age 87 Josiah served as a Sargeant in the Rev War Army Josiah lived in Norwich when he enlisted in 1777 for 3 years and fought against the Susquahanna Indians. Josiah andAbigail were married June 23, 1785 Josiah died March 13th 1814 Abagail died 19th Oct 1848 Affidavit of Betsey Barnum her daughter, widow of Charles Barnum dated 1845 from Norwich VT Only surviving children of Abagail are Betsey Barnum and Polly Goodrich wife of Levi Goodrich of Norwich VT. Josiah was wounded by gunfire (bullet through the leg) while under the service of Gen. Sullivan, on the Indian campaign. No other family info is given - 6 pages *Jarret/Jarrett Burton* (File # R1517)of VA served from that state, filed from Macon Co KY - no family info available. *James Burton* (File # S48412/BLWT1924-300) Served from VA, b. Orange Co VA, wife Elizabeth, children, James, William, John, Bezaleel/Besabel, Francis Goodrich, Ann Elizabeth Burton, Nancy Brown, Ursula Burton, Elizabeth Stone, and Polly A. Brent. In 1833 the only son living was Besabel and he is shortly 21. *James Burton* (File# ) enlisted CT, filed for App from CT, died Dozer NY, wife Naoma. *John Burton*, File # R1518, filed from Guersey Co Ohio in 1838., enlisted from Buckley Co VA. Spouse Sarah. Affadavit of Christian Clark, formally Christian Burton, dated Oct 1850 from Gurnsey Co Ohio. She is the child of John Burton Sr. She mentions her sister Margaret Speers and brothers Bazil (parts unknown) and John, all of Ohio but Bazil. Per her affadavit, her parents lived in VA, PA and Ohio. *John Burton* File # R1519 , filed from NY, enlisted NY, lived in RI when he enlisted. *John Burton* File # S32146, enlisted while living in Mecklenburg Co VA, born there, filed from Ill, moved to Rutheford CO TN in 1807 from Mecklenburg Co VA, then to Sangamon Co Ill in 1827. Died Jan 30, 1839. Survived by children, names not given, wife's name not given. *John Burton*, File #S46831, mustered in, wounded twice at Germantown, and taken prisioner on Oct 4, 1777, once in the head and once in the hip, released on the 28th, and discharged on April 30th 1778, Rank, Sargeant in the 5th VA Regiment, Residence Co. of Henrico VA. Affadavit of daughter Sarah A Foose. John Burton died Dec 27, 1828 in Henrico Co Va. Mentions he had 4 children, only mentions Sarah and a son William who was deceased by 1850. *John Burton*, File # W4140, residence Hertford Co NC, died 3 Dec 1800 in Hertford Co NC, m. Susannah MANER/MANIER BURTON 7th May 1792, Surviving children are mentioned but not named. John was born in VA. Shsannah Burton died in Hertford Co NC after the age of 84 but the date is not given either.

Ester; thank you so much for what you did....Frances replied and gave me what she had on JOHN, MARY and a little on JOSIAH BURTON....Any information is a help, as I have abrick wall on the Burtons...Mary mc in Ga. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ester Eads" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] To honor the memory of our Revolutionary War ancestors > Mary, > > I have forwarded your last email to my cousin, Frances Hall who did all > the genealogy work on the Burton family. I do not have any further > information on this family, but perhaps Frances does. Good luck. > > Ester > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected]sfamilies.net > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Thank you Kate! Yes, that Cornelius 1666 Essex Co VA-1746, Essex Co VA,is thought to be the gg-grandfather of the later Cornelius 1750-1811 Rev War Vet. All complicated by the fact that Wm SALE, the immigrant 1638..had two sons whose lines continued the names of Cornelius and William all the way. AND we aren't sure if our early Wm SALE is the same man or even related to the Wm SAYLE who is written about as Gov of the Carolinas and settled some of his family in the Isle of Man. It is starting to come together however. Thanks for this info! Debbie --- ross kate <[email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > I was reading the Valentine Papers, Vol 1 - 4, at > Heritage Quest which listed a Cornelius Sale as an > appraiser of a sale, date Jan 15 1733. > > This might make him too old to serve in the American > Revolution. > > For what it's worth. > > Kate Ross > > > > __________________________________ > Discover Yahoo! > Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and > more. Check it out! > http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > Hoaxes and Urban Legends on the Internet > http://www.snopes.com/ > <A HREF="http://www.snopes.com/">Snopes.com</a> > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250

Hello, I was reading the Valentine Papers, Vol 1 - 4, at Heritage Quest which listed a Cornelius Sale as an appraiser of a sale, date Jan 15 1733. This might make him too old to serve in the American Revolution. For what it's worth. Kate Ross __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html

"Tanimara" Thank you. I did receive the NC SALE/SAYLE ancestors records. I appreciate your time and work. Debbie --- Tanimara <[email protected]> wrote: > Debbie, > > I did a search for Sale/Sayle/Sales/Sayles in the > Rev War Pension > Database. As you can see below, all of these that > are listed are in the > plural and in RI. None from NC. I can send info if > you are sure of a > connection or highly suspicious of one. Most of > these run 5 to 20 pages > long and are hand written. > > Jackie > Surname Given Name State Service > SAYLES ABIGAIL RI > SAYLES AHAB RI > SAYLES DANIEL RI > SAYLES DAVID RI > SAYLES ELISHA RI > SAYLES JOHN RI > SAYLES LILLIS RI > SAYLES RHONDA RI > SAYLES RICHARD RI > SAYLES ROSE RI > SAYLES SMITH RI > SAYLES STEPHEN RI > SAYLES STUKELY RI > SAYLES SYLVANUS RI > SAYLES THOMAS RI > Surname Given Name State Service > SALES JOHN RI > > > Debbie Wood wrote: > > >Hello > >My name is Debbie Wood and I'm told that two of my > >direct descendants from my SAYLE/SALE family were > >Revolutionary War Veterans. They lived in Wilkes Co > NC > >which formed in 1777 from Surry Co NC and the > District > >of Washington. > >I've not found them on any online rosters and would > >like to ask if anyone with the resources at hand > would > >have a look for them. Your time is greatly > >appreciated! > >Debbie Wood > > > >Here are their names and info I received about > them. > > > >I am told that William SAYLE (1725-1788)of Wilkes > >County, NC and his son Cornelius SALE (1750-after > >1811) both served NC or VA (perhaps State Line?)in > the > >Revolutionary War. I was given this with no source > >listed.... > > "There is a record of the imprisonment of William > >Sale II during the Revolutionary War". > >William Sale (c. 1720-1788) served in the war, even > to > >the point of becoming a POW, and several if not all > of > >his sons fought for the patriot cause." > > "My understanding of the imprisonment is that it > >involved William and others of the Wilkes County > >militia taken by the redcoats in their devastating > >incursions into North Carolina." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Discover Yahoo! > >Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for > the weekend. Check it out! > >http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html > > > > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > >USGS Mapping Information query form > >http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > >============================== > >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so > much more. > >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *"A people without a history is like wind on the > buffalo grass" * > > *Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux * > > *County Coordinator Ripley Co MO GenWeb* > <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emoripley/> > > *Moderator HarringtonGen* > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harringtongen/> > > *Owner/Breeder Tanimara Great Pyrenees - Livestock > Guardians* > <http://www.geocities.com/tanimara_2000/> > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > We have archives! Search for your > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and > search for your ancestors at the same time. Share > your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html

Peter STEPHENS I seek, is as follows: Born circa 1730 place unknown, may have been born in PA or VA. His parents married in PA but removed to Frederick Co VA.  They removed again to Montgomery Co VA, in the area that became Grayson Co VA. Peter married Anna Maria Chrisman and he died in 1812 in Montgomery Co Va, near the NC border. The National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution Volume 61 page 223 Miss Woods Stephens. DAR ID Number: 60670 Mrs. Bettie M. Stephens Wilton. DAR ID Number: 60671 Born in Montgomery County, Va. Descendant of Sergt. Peter Stephens and of Samuel Shepherd. Daughter of David Laurence Stephens and Margaret Caddall, his wife. Granddaughter of Henry Stephens and Mary Charlton, his wife; John Caddall and Eliza Shepherd, his wife. Gr-granddaughter of David Stephens and Elizabeth Watterson, his wife; Samuel Shepherd and Anne Margaret Boyd, his wife. Gr-gr-granddaughter of Peter Stephens and Mary Joanna Chrisman, his wife. Peter Stephens (1735-1812) served as sergeant in the Virginia troops under Lieut. Charles Stockley. He was born in Frederick County; died in Montgomery County, Va. Samuel Shepherd (1762-1832) enlisted, 1778, as a private in Capt. Thomas Miller's company, Col. Richard Parker's regiment. He was born in Goochland County, Va.; died in Wilson County, Tenn. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Virgina Genealogical Society Quarterly The Chesterfield Supplement Accessions #23816 Virginia State Library Some Rev. War Soldiers who enlisted at Cherterfield VA after 1 Sept. 1780 (continued from Vol 1, No 1, Jan. 1968) Name age Place of Birth Place of Residence Isaac Stephens 19 Frederick Montgomery Peter Stephens 17 Frederick Montgomery ~~~~~~~~ Hans Peter Stephens B: 1690 Steinsfurt, Germany D: 1757 Fredrick Co., Virginia Maria Christina Rittenhouse B: 1700 Germantown, PA, USA D: 1757 Peter Stephens B: 1735 VA, USA D: 1812 Battle Camden, NC, USA Marriage 1752 Anna Maria Christman B: 29 Sep 1735 Orange, VA, USA D: 1771 Montgomery, VA, USA children Isaac 1750 VA Lawrence 1755 MD Jonathan 1756 VA Jacob 1756 VA Joseph L 1758/63 VA Keziah Katie 1768 VA David 1770 VA Mary 1772 VA Lavina 1774 VA ----------------------- THE AMERICAN GENEALOGIST, Being a CATALOGUE OF FAMILY HISTORIES. GENEALOGIES. The American genealogical record. * * * The STEPHENS family, with collateral branches [being the descendants of Peter Stephens of Virginia, 1732]. By E. S. Clark. San Francisco, Cal.: Jos. Winterburn Co., 1892. 8vo, 185 pages, 24 portraits.

Many thanks!! Yes, this is my family...Peter Stephens and Anna Maria Chrisman via their son Lawrence in Montgomery Co VA!! I cannot thank you enough! Deb --- [email protected] wrote: > Peter STEPHENS I seek, is as > follows: > Born circa 1730 place unknown, may have been born in > PA or VA. His parents married in PA but removed to > Frederick Co VA.  They removed again to Montgomery > Co > VA, in the area that became Grayson Co VA. > > Peter married Anna Maria Chrisman and he died in > 1812 > in Montgomery Co Va, near the NC border. > > The National Society of the Daughters of the > American Revolution Volume 61 > page 223 > > Miss Woods Stephens. > DAR ID Number: 60670 > Mrs. Bettie M. Stephens Wilton. > DAR ID Number: 60671 > Born in Montgomery County, Va. > > Descendant of Sergt. Peter Stephens and of Samuel > Shepherd. > Daughter of David Laurence Stephens and Margaret > Caddall, his wife. > Granddaughter of Henry Stephens and Mary Charlton, > his wife; > John Caddall and Eliza Shepherd, his wife. > Gr-granddaughter of David Stephens and Elizabeth > Watterson, his wife; > Samuel Shepherd and Anne Margaret Boyd, his wife. > Gr-gr-granddaughter of Peter Stephens and Mary > Joanna Chrisman, his wife. > Peter Stephens (1735-1812) served as sergeant in the > Virginia troops under > Lieut. Charles Stockley. He was born in Frederick > County; died in Montgomery > County, Va. > Samuel Shepherd (1762-1832) enlisted, 1778, as a > private in Capt. Thomas > Miller's company, Col. Richard Parker's regiment. He > was born in Goochland County, > Va.; died in Wilson County, Tenn. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Virgina Genealogical Society Quarterly > The Chesterfield Supplement > Accessions #23816 Virginia State Library > Some Rev. War Soldiers who enlisted at Cherterfield > VA after 1 Sept. 1780 > (continued from Vol 1, No 1, Jan. 1968) > Name age Place of Birth > Place of Residence > Isaac Stephens 19 Frederick > Montgomery > Peter Stephens 17 Frederick > Montgomery > ~~~~~~~~ > Hans Peter Stephens > B: 1690 > Steinsfurt, Germany > D: 1757 > Fredrick Co., Virginia > Maria Christina Rittenhouse > B: 1700 > Germantown, PA, USA > D: 1757 > > Peter Stephens > B: 1735 VA, USA > D: 1812 Battle Camden, NC, USA > Marriage > 1752 > Anna Maria Christman > B: 29 Sep 1735 > Orange, VA, USA > D: 1771 > Montgomery, VA, USA > children > Isaac 1750 VA > Lawrence 1755 MD > Jonathan 1756 VA > Jacob 1756 VA > Joseph L 1758/63 VA > Keziah Katie 1768 VA > David 1770 VA > Mary 1772 VA > Lavina 1774 VA > ----------------------- > > THE AMERICAN GENEALOGIST, Being a CATALOGUE OF > FAMILY HISTORIES. > GENEALOGIES. > > The American genealogical record. * * * The STEPHENS > family, with collateral > branches [being the descendants of Peter Stephens of > Virginia, 1732]. By E. S. > Clark. San Francisco, Cal.: Jos. Winterburn Co., > 1892. 8vo, 185 pages, 24 > portraits. > > > > > > > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION list, > send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in > mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in > digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Bob! Thank you so much for the info and your ideas on it!!! Extremely enlightening! Deb --- Bob Brooks <[email protected]> wrote: > Debbie -- > > > List of Prisoners > > William SAYLE > > (Protection, 61 years of age does not > > mean to be exchanged.) > > > > Letter from Stephen Moore and John Barnwell to > General > > N. Greene > > (From North Carolina State Records) > > PRISON SHIP FORBAY, CHARLES TOWN HARBOUR, > > 18th Mary, 1781 > > I find your query of interest and am answering > somewhat reluctantly in fear > that I may give you a false lead. as I will be > GUESSING in a few places. > > FACT: There was only one Royal Navy ship in > American waters carried on the > naval establishment (i.e., subject to all the > official administrative > requirements as a war ship) officially desigbated as > a Prison Ship. This > was HMS JERSEY, a former 4th rate, 60-gun, ship of > the line built in 1736 > and converted into a Hospital Ship in 1771, which on > 26 Dec 1780 was > officially redesignated a Prison Ship. HMS JERSEY > arrived at New York in > 1776 and was abandoned there in Nov 1783. > > FACT: Virtually all the Royal Navy ships carried > American prisoners at > verious times. Most were taken from ships captured > at sea. > > FACT: Naval POWs and military POWs were not > interchangeable. The British > proposed "mixing" but this was turned down upon > Washington's objection to > the Continental Congress. Therefore, Naval POWs > were only exchanged for > other naval POWs and solidiers for soldiers, etc. > The British Commissary > General of Prisoners was Joshua Loring, a vile > Loyalist who stole supplies > from the POWs and sold them but is best known for > his wife becoming the > mistress of General Sir William owe. The British > Commisary General for > Naval Prisoners was David Sproat, another Loyalist. > To the best of my > knowledge, after the British returned from > Philadelphia to New York, this > office remained in New York The first American > Commisary General of > Prisoners (with Continental Army rank as Colonel) > was Elias Boudinot, > appointed in 1777. He was followed by John Beatty > and then Abraham Skinner. > I have never learned of an American Commissary > General of Naval Prisoners. > GUESS: British Naval POWs were handled by one of > the American Deputy > Commissary Generals of Prisoners (Majors) or > Assistant Deputy Commissary > Generals of prisoners (Captains). GUESS: The > American POWs at Charlestown > were handled by Loyalist subordinates of the New > York office. > > "(Protection, 61 years of age does not mean to be > exchanged.)" > FACT: A "Protection" was a document given merchant > sailors which exempted > them from being impressed into the royal navy. > GUESS: "does not mean to be > exchanged." looks like he was asking to remain > within British control and > was exempting himself from the queue of POWs > awaiting to be exchanged. > FACT: Officers usually were paroled awaiting > exchange but seamen were > incarcerated. > > FACT: I can not identify Stephen Moore and John > Barnwell. > > "PRISON SHIP FORBAY, CHARLES TOWN HARBOUR, 18th > Mary, 1781" > GUESS: "FORBAY" seems a strange name so I suspect > this is should be TORBAY. > FACT: "Torbay" is a port in Devonshire on "Tor Bay" > off the English > Channel. HMS TORBAY was a 3rd-rate, 74-gun, ship of > the line, manned by 600 > men. Built in 1750, in 1781 she was assigned to the > Leeward Islands station > under the command of Captain John Lewis Gidoin. I > have no record of HMS > TORBAY serving in American waters until 1783. > GUESS: HMS TORBAY was too > deep (i.e., drew too much water) to get over the bar > and get into > Charlestown (now Charleston SC) harbour. > > "18th Mary, 1781" > FACT: Vice Admiral Arbuthnot's Line of Battle on 16 > March 1781 DID NOT > include HMS TORBAY. On 14 May 1781 Vice Admiral > Arbuthnot was back at Sandy > Hook. > > COMMENTS: > (1) The possibility exists that a transport ship > named FORBAY (or TORBAY) > had been pressed into service as a floating prison. > This was a common > practice by both sides. I have a list of several > hundred of the transport > ships employed by the British but do not find a > transport named FORBAY (or > TORBAY) > > (2) This entry appears to me as belonging to an > American seaman, probably > taken from a vessel captured by the British. > > (3) I recommend you attempt to obtain a > photo-copy of the original > document before you make any conclusions > > Bob Brooks, retired on the downeast coast of Maine > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > We have archives! Search for your > AMERICAN-REVOLUTION information here..... > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl?list=AMERICAN-REVOLUTION > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about > your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the > last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! 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Debbie, I did a search for Sale/Sayle/Sales/Sayles in the Rev War Pension Database. As you can see below, all of these that are listed are in the plural and in RI. None from NC. I can send info if you are sure of a connection or highly suspicious of one. Most of these run 5 to 20 pages long and are hand written. Jackie Surname Given Name State Service SAYLES ABIGAIL RI SAYLES AHAB RI SAYLES DANIEL RI SAYLES DAVID RI SAYLES ELISHA RI SAYLES JOHN RI SAYLES LILLIS RI SAYLES RHONDA RI SAYLES RICHARD RI SAYLES ROSE RI SAYLES SMITH RI SAYLES STEPHEN RI SAYLES STUKELY RI SAYLES SYLVANUS RI SAYLES THOMAS RI Surname Given Name State Service SALES JOHN RI Debbie Wood wrote: >Hello >My name is Debbie Wood and I'm told that two of my >direct descendants from my SAYLE/SALE family were >Revolutionary War Veterans. They lived in Wilkes Co NC >which formed in 1777 from Surry Co NC and the District >of Washington. >I've not found them on any online rosters and would >like to ask if anyone with the resources at hand would >have a look for them. Your time is greatly >appreciated! >Debbie Wood > >Here are their names and info I received about them. > >I am told that William SAYLE (1725-1788)of Wilkes >County, NC and his son Cornelius SALE (1750-after >1811) both served NC or VA (perhaps State Line?)in the >Revolutionary War. I was given this with no source >listed.... > "There is a record of the imprisonment of William >Sale II during the Revolutionary War". >William Sale (c. 1720-1788) served in the war, even to >the point of becoming a POW, and several if not all of >his sons fought for the patriot cause." > "My understanding of the imprisonment is that it >involved William and others of the Wilkes County >militia taken by the redcoats in their devastating >incursions into North Carolina." > > > > > > > >__________________________________ >Discover Yahoo! >Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! >http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== >USGS Mapping Information query form >http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > -- *"A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo grass" * *Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux * *County Coordinator Ripley Co MO GenWeb* <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emoripley/> *Moderator HarringtonGen* <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harringtongen/> *Owner/Breeder Tanimara Great Pyrenees - Livestock Guardians* <http://www.geocities.com/tanimara_2000/>

I find his Application in the Pension Database if you need that but I do not have a bio on him. Let me know if that will help and I'll send them your way. David Armstrong wrote: >Query: I need to find the most exhaustive, detailed and definitive biography on Gen. Daniel Morgan. Does anyone know which one would be best? > >Query: Does anyone know if Morgan's papers are extant or where? > >Thanks. > >Best Regards > >David Armstrong >Elkins, WV > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== >Check out other genealogy resources on the net at John Fuller's most helpful site > http://www.rootsweb.com/~jfuller/gen_mail.html > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > -- *"A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo grass" * *Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux * *County Coordinator Ripley Co MO GenWeb* <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emoripley/> *Moderator HarringtonGen* <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harringtongen/> *Owner/Breeder Tanimara Great Pyrenees - Livestock Guardians* <http://www.geocities.com/tanimara_2000/>