Thanks Alice..probably a relative of the one I sought. Rec'd this regarding my Rob't Black. DAR PATRIOT INDEX PAGE 243 BLACK, ROBERT BORN 1725 VA DIED 1781 NC M-ELIZABETH X PVT. PS NC Thank you Alice, I appreciate your time!! Debbie Wood --- afhills <[email protected]> wrote: > "Robert Black" could be a common name. However, > there is a Robert Black, > Revolutionary War soldier, buried in the historic > Ebenezer Church Cemetery, > Ebenezer Lane, in Jessamine County, KY. He was on > the KY Pension Roll of > 1835, having been a private in the VA Line. He d. > 18 July 1837. > > See the web page of the church, > http://www.raisemyebenezer.com/ and that of > the Jessamine County Historical Society, > www.jesshistorical.org/ for names > of more Revolutionary War soldiers who lived, died, > and are buried in the > county. > > Alice Hills > Lexington, KY > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and > search for your ancestors at the same time. Share > your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

"Robert Black" could be a common name. However, there is a Robert Black, Revolutionary War soldier, buried in the historic Ebenezer Church Cemetery, Ebenezer Lane, in Jessamine County, KY. He was on the KY Pension Roll of 1835, having been a private in the VA Line. He d. 18 July 1837. See the web page of the church, http://www.raisemyebenezer.com/ and that of the Jessamine County Historical Society, www.jesshistorical.org/ for names of more Revolutionary War soldiers who lived, died, and are buried in the county. Alice Hills Lexington, KY

Hi Jinny- In the course of your research on Lowther did you uncover anything about his militia company (actions, engagements, names of soldiers, etc).? I assume that you have seen the coverage of Lowther in Elias Hughes' pension testimony, as published in BORDER SETTLERS. Hughes describes a situation in which Lowther and Benjamin Wilson were essentially acting as county lieutenants in the part of the old West Augusta that had been put back in east Augusta in 1776. The 1776 act redefined the bounds of West Augusta rather than defining them as the act says, and this created a vacuum of leadership in the western section of Augusta and Col. Morgan, county lieutenant of Monongalia was keenly aware of and chagrined by this as shown in his letter to Gen Hand in June of 1777. So while Lowther and Wilson held the rank of Captain at the time they were far more important and had more power and responsibility than the average captain of the time. I would welcome anything you could tell me about the Lowther unit. I have access to the traditional sources except the history of Ritchie County. Thanks in advance. Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jinny Collins" <[email protected]> To: "David Armstrong" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 11:02 AM Subject: 'William Lowther' > Hi - go to http://my.execpc.com/~sril/clarkv07 and use your browser's > "find" > feature to get all the references to Lowther. However there are 13 films > digitized and you will need to search each individually. > > A number of my people were in Lowther's unit. His was the one who went > after the raiders of Leading Creek here where I live. Do you have any > names > of people in Lowther's unit? Any tidbits will be appreciated. > > Best Regards > David A. > ----- > > Thanks for the pointers. I'll spend some time today looking. Let me know > specifically which names are most important to you. As you probably know, > there is lots of info in Border Wars, History of Ritchie County, etc. In > about 2000, I was in that area researching. I had just retired and was > setting about on the "journey" - not really knowing much about my family, > but had discovered that the Colonel was my 5th Great Grandfather. I went > into the Richmond library and asked for "stuff" about him. They said, > "what would you like", and I replied, "whatever you have!". They wheeled > out 3 carts with 32 boxes on them! I about fainted! and as a result was > there for two weeks reading letters he had written to Governor Beverly > and other "famous" people of the time. It was overwhelming. I have since > been on a "Lowther Tour" of northern England & Scotland; visited the > Lowther > Castle; and met some of the local descendants, including the current James > and Lady Jane Lowther. Awesome! I have over 30,000 names in my database, > because I eventually wrote a book about my BOUNDS line - my great > grandmother Mary Jane Lowther married Leonard Bounds, so I started there. > The Bounds account for about 10,000 of those names. However, I have always > entered whatever peripheral lines I run across, and MAY have some that > belong to you. I'm so glad to have "met" you, and would like to share > whatever info we can. Please keep in touch. > > Regards, > Jinny > >

I'm told father and son served but I've no documentation yet... There is no Roger Black listed in DAR index. Roger BLACK b. about 1725 lived in NC, wife Elizabeth; died 1781 Caswell Co NC. And their son, Henry BLACK born Orange Co NC circa 1753 and died 1789 Caswell Co NC, wife, Sarah (possible surname LEA). Your time and effort is appreciated! Debbie Wood DAR PATRIOT INDEX PAGE 243 BLACK, ROBERT BORN 1725 VA DIED 1781 NC M-ELIZABETH X PVT. PS NC BLACK, HENRY BORN 1753 VA DIED 1789 NC M-SARAH X PS NC

Oh, good, thank you Jackie! your friend Debbie --- Tanimara <[email protected]> wrote: > One Robert listed in the Rev War Pension Application > Database. No > family info given. Born VA moved to KY. > > Jackie > > Debbie Wood wrote: > > >May have mistakenly asked for look up to Roger > >Black..correct name is ROBERT BLACK. > > > >Debbie > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > >List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: > >Diana Boothe [email protected] > > > >============================== > >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so > much more. > >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *"A people without a history is like wind on the > buffalo grass" * > > *Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux * > > *County Coordinator Ripley Co MO GenWeb* > <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emoripley/> > > *Moderator HarringtonGen* > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harringtongen/> > > *Owner/Breeder Tanimara Great Pyrenees - Livestock > Guardians* > <http://www.geocities.com/tanimara_2000/> > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com

Thank you much! take care! Debbie --- Tanimara <[email protected]> wrote: > Debbie, > > Neither are listed in the pension application > database... sorry. > > Jackie > > Debbie Wood wrote: > > >I'm told father and son served but I've no > >documentation yet... > > > >Roger BLACK b. about 1725 lived in NC, wife > Elizabeth; > >died 1781 Caswell Co NC. > > > >And their son, Henry BLACK born Orange Co NC circa > >1753 and died 1789 Caswell Co NC, wife, Sarah > >(possible surname LEA). > > > >Your time and effort is appreciated! > > > >Debbie Wood > > > >__________________________________________________ > >Do You Yahoo!? > >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > >USGS Mapping Information query form > >http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > > > >============================== > >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about > your ancestors, find > >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *"A people without a history is like wind on the > buffalo grass" * > > *Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux * > > *County Coordinator Ripley Co MO GenWeb* > <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emoripley/> > > *Moderator HarringtonGen* > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harringtongen/> > > *Owner/Breeder Tanimara Great Pyrenees - Livestock > Guardians* > <http://www.geocities.com/tanimara_2000/> > > > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION list, > send the command "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in > mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in > digest mode.) > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so > much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Is there a muster roll of the 7th's soldiers? John Philip Adams -----Original Message----- From: Debbie Wood [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 6:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] 7th VA Continental Line and Lee's Legion Dear Hugh!!! I'm sure this will help many of us for along time to come!! Fantastic sites and information!! Thank you so very much! Deborah --- [email protected] wrote: > FYI > > There were two 7th Regiments of VA as follows: > > From URL <http://www.revwar75.com/ob/books.htm> > > 7th (Dangerfield's/Crawford's/McClanachan's/ > Richardson's/Russel's) Virginia Regiment [1776-1778] >  - [A] > Redesignated as the 5th (Russel's) Virginia Regiment > [Sept. 1778]  - [B] > Captured at Charlestown May 1780 > Disbanded Jan. 1783 > > 11th (Morgan's) Virginia Regiment [1777-1778] >  - [A] > Redesignated as the 7th (Morgan's/Posey's/Cabell's) > Virginia Regiment [Sept. > 1778]  - [B] > Captured at Charlestown May 1780 > Disbanded Jan. 1781 > > Your ancestor could have served in either 7th VA > Regiment. Note the names of > the commanders, this may help in the identification > of the regiment. In as > much as the terms of enlistment varied, he could > have served in several units > over the course of the RW. Also note that the VA > Reigiments of the Continental > Line did not use the term "Continental" in the > designation of the Regiment, > they were simple a part of the Continental Line > (those troops committed to > continental service under General Washington). > > As to: > > From URL: > <http://www.uswars.net/1775-1783/states/ct/cl-17.htm> > > 2d Partisan Corps > (aka Lee's Legion) > > LINEAGE > > * Authorized 8 June 1776 in the Virginia State > Troops as the 5th Troop of > Light Horse. > > * Organized in summer 1776 at Williamsburg with > recruits from northern > Virginia. > > * Redesignated 25 June 1776 as the 5th Troop of > Virginia Light Horse. > > * Virginia Light Horse adopted 25 November 1776 > into the Continental Army, > assigned to the Main Army, and redesignated as the > 1st Continental Light > Dragoon Regiment. > > * Withdrawn 7 April 1778 from the 1st Continental > Light Dragoon Regiment > expanded to form Lee's Corps of Partisan Light > Dragoons, an element of the Main > Army, to consist of 3 troops. > > * Captain Allen McLane's Company assigned 13 July > 1779 as the 4th Troop. > > * Expanded and redesignated 1 January 1781 as the > 2d Partisan Corps, to > consist of 3 mounted and 3 dismounted troops. > > * Disbanded 15 November 1783 at Winchester, > Virginia. > > Note: This unit used the term "Continental" in its > designation, but not the > term "Virginia" once in the Continental Service. > > > Captain Allen McLane's Company > (formally of Patton's Additional Continental > Regiment) > > LINEAGE > > * Authorized 13 January 1777 as Captain Allen > McLane's Company, Patton's > Additional Continental Regiment, an element of the > Main Army. > > * Organized 14 February - 23 April 1777 at Dover, > Delaware, with recruits > from Delaware. > > * Withdrawn 16 December 1778 from Patton's > Additional Continental Regiment > and assigned to the Delaware Regiment, an element of > the 3d Virginia Brigade > of the Main Army. > > * Withdrawn 13 July 1779 from the Delaware > Regiment and assigned to Lee's > Corps of Partisan Light Dragoons as the 4th > (Dismounted) Troop. > > > Hope this helps in your search. > > > Best regards, > Hugh > <[email protected]> > [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, > KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, POILLON, > ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD] > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: > Diana Boothe [email protected] > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million > records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the > world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION list, send the command "unsubscribe" to [email protected] (if in mail mode) or [email protected] (if in digest mode.) ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

One Robert listed in the Rev War Pension Application Database. No family info given. Born VA moved to KY. Jackie Debbie Wood wrote: >May have mistakenly asked for look up to Roger >Black..correct name is ROBERT BLACK. > >Debbie > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== >List Mom for AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L: >Diana Boothe [email protected] > >============================== >Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > -- *"A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo grass" * *Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux * *County Coordinator Ripley Co MO GenWeb* <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emoripley/> *Moderator HarringtonGen* <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harringtongen/> *Owner/Breeder Tanimara Great Pyrenees - Livestock Guardians* <http://www.geocities.com/tanimara_2000/>

Debbie, Neither are listed in the pension application database... sorry. Jackie Debbie Wood wrote: >I'm told father and son served but I've no >documentation yet... > >Roger BLACK b. about 1725 lived in NC, wife Elizabeth; >died 1781 Caswell Co NC. > >And their son, Henry BLACK born Orange Co NC circa >1753 and died 1789 Caswell Co NC, wife, Sarah >(possible surname LEA). > >Your time and effort is appreciated! > >Debbie Wood > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > >==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== >USGS Mapping Information query form >http://www-nmd.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > -- *"A people without a history is like wind on the buffalo grass" * *Crazy Horse - Oglala Sioux * *County Coordinator Ripley Co MO GenWeb* <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Emoripley/> *Moderator HarringtonGen* <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/harringtongen/> *Owner/Breeder Tanimara Great Pyrenees - Livestock Guardians* <http://www.geocities.com/tanimara_2000/>

archibald thompson b-6/24/1755 st (scotland) d-a 1803 pa m-ann andrews pvt. pa page 2681 dar patriot index this was on ancestry oneworld tree Alexander Thompson B: 1722 Corkerhill, Paisley, Renfrew, Scotland D: 1800 Scotland, Franklin, PA, USA Elizabeth Edmonstone B: 31 Dec 1728 [city], [parish], [county], Scotland D: 14 Nov 1815 Letterkenny, [county], PA, USA son: Archibald Thompson B: 24 Jun 1755 Glasgow, [parish], [county], Scotland spouse:Ann Andrews B: 1760 children: Agnes no date Alexander 1788 PA James 1791 PA Jane 1793 PA Hannah 1796 PA Archibald Thompson is not listed on the DAR (ancestry) books he was probably established after those boosk were printed. Listers: If anyone has access to Ancestry.com and is willing to do a lookup at the following site, would you please search for Archibald THOM[P]SON, b. 1755, Scotland; Md+ Ann nee ANDREWS; place of enlistment *thought* to be Cumberland or Franklin Co., PA.

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I'm told father and son served but I've no documentation yet... Roger BLACK b. about 1725 lived in NC, wife Elizabeth; died 1781 Caswell Co NC. And their son, Henry BLACK born Orange Co NC circa 1753 and died 1789 Caswell Co NC, wife, Sarah (possible surname LEA). Your time and effort is appreciated! Debbie Wood __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Hi Hugh It would be simpler if this was a bunch of leftover men from the old 14th but they aren't. The page I have is part of the "B's" out of a big ledger sized book with many pages. The men in it were "engaged" all over the state, the wide majority in the place they also list as their residence. The majority were "engaged" within a month or two of being "sized" between the 25th and 28th of May, except for one guy who says he enlisted in 177_ for 3 years. The wide majority of the men were about half and half between enlisted or drafted/substituted. Several of them (ones from Loudon list) are in another list from the auditor's accouns "Return of recruits raised for the county of Loudon under the Act of Assembly for October 1780 for recruiting the state's quota of troops to serve in the continental army and delivered by Capt. William Owlsley 11 May 1781". According to the bigger list Owsley gathered all of his recruits up on 19 March. There had been a draft in Oct of 1780 (I have looked at everything I have and don't have the details but Hennings Statutes should have it) which draft was for some reason postphoned until March of 1780 when the men in this list were gathering (according to Von Steuben's report of the Point of Forks engagement). It is my understanding that they were to be 18 month draftees for the Continental Army but instead of "draft" I see the word "recruiting" in many of the contemporary documents. All of this would make perfect sense but for one thing. The 18th column of the list under "engaged" "how long" it says for all but a handful of the men "1y6mo". But the very next two columns to the right (19th and 20th column) say "What corps" and for all the answer is "14th VA" and "How long" and the answer for all is "three years". So columns 18 and column 20 contradict each other. The chart was drawn by hand and the answers all written in so I think it is unlikely that an old form was used. These men were being gathered and trained by Von Steuben when the debacle at Point of Forks happened and after they were all equipped and placed (they were quickly moved from Albemarle Old Courthouse) maybe some did end up with Gaskins and Febriger but I don't know how many may have gone somewhere else. I wonder if there is a comprehensive list of units with Lafayette at Yorktown. (BTW someone on the list asked me a while back what I mean by "unit" - I may not be using the term correctly all the time but when I use it I mean any identifiable military designation of a group of troops that can be used to identify that group from another. The company and regiment would both be "units" to me. I could be wrong and I digress.) Your proposed message to the army looks OK but that may be premature at the moment. What is needed is for me or someone to go to the VA State Library and get more names from the ledger and check these with the pensions to see if anybody survived and told the story. Maybe the "14th VA" was a temporary designation while the men were being assigned and equipped. Still the "1yr6mo" and "3yr" contradiction is puzzling. My relative who is in this list is Robert Brown from Hampshire County, Virginia. His brother James claimed in a pension application that he (James) ENLISTED in early 1781 in the local militia under Captain Michael Stump and marched to Williamsburg, subsequently falling into the same chain of combat that these Albemarle courthouse recruits did. So maybe not all of the people raised by Virginia in 1781 wound up in this "14th VA" and some stayed with their own local units. I am unable to go anywhere now but if I can get to richmond again I may be able to get to the bottom of all of this because since I was there the last time I have exchanged a lot of communications with people like you and have a better idea what to look for. Thanks so much for all of the info you are sending and the URLs. It will take me some time to digest it all. Keep in touch. Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 4:21 PM Subject: Re: [AMER-REV] 14th VA > > In a message dated 06/18/05 10:31:12 PM, [email protected] writes: > > << But I predict it will soon! <grin> >> > _______________ > David, > > If the 14th VA designation was inactivated in 1778 when it was > redesignated > the 10th VA, it seems that those patriots whose service was last with the > 14th > would use that designation to identify themselves when later queried about > their previous service. > > Since all names on the "sized" rolls do not have a designation, I suspect > the > 14th VA was an individuals previous service. Remember that when the 10th > VA > went to Charleston those with initial previous service in the 14th went > with > them and they were captured in 1780. It follows that those who had been > discharge from the 14th prior to departure to Charleston would be the ones > caught up > in the levies. > > Does this make sense to you? > > I can't find any reference to the 14th VA as an active unit after Sept > 1778. > > > Best regards, > Hugh > <[email protected]> > [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, > POILLON, > ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD] > > > ==== AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION list, send the command > "unsubscribe" to > [email protected] (if in mail mode) or > [email protected] (if in digest mode.) > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

In a message dated 06/18/05 10:31:12 PM, [email protected] writes: << But I predict it will soon! <grin> >> _______________ David, If the 14th VA designation was inactivated in 1778 when it was redesignated the 10th VA, it seems that those patriots whose service was last with the 14th would use that designation to identify themselves when later queried about their previous service. Since all names on the "sized" rolls do not have a designation, I suspect the 14th VA was an individuals previous service. Remember that when the 10th VA went to Charleston those with initial previous service in the 14th went with them and they were captured in 1780. It follows that those who had been discharge from the 14th prior to departure to Charleston would be the ones caught up in the levies. Does this make sense to you? I can't find any reference to the 14th VA as an active unit after Sept 1778. Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]> [DENTON, FRENCH, GOAR, GURNEY, HOFFMAN, HUFFMAN, KNOX, LEE, MIZNER, POILLON, ROSE, RUTGERS, SMOCK, THOMASON, WOOD]

Listers: If anyone has access to Ancestry.com and is willing to do a lookup at the following site, would you please search for Archibald THOM[P]SON, b. 1755, Scotland; Md+ Ann nee ANDREWS; place of enlistment *thought* to be Cumberland or Franklin Co., PA. Please reply off list. My thanks for this consideration. Marybeth Corrigall [email protected] ========================== << In a message dated 6/18/05 8:36:22 AM, [email protected] writes: Daughters of the American Revolution Lineage Books Search nearly 2.4 million names! Subscription Required. http://genealogysearch.org/ancestry/dar.html <A HREF="http://genealogysearch.org/ancestry/dar.html"> Click</A> >>

Proposed message to Office of Military History, Department of the Army Sir: Recently I have been investigating the units involved in the 1781 operations in Virginia leading up to Yorktown and the surrender of the British on 19 Oct 1781. Of particular interest is Gaskins' VA Battalion/Regiment also known as the 1st VA Battalion about which there seems to be some confusion over the battalion command. My understanding is as follows. With the Virginia Continental Line being captured at Charleston in 1780, stragglers and escapees were returning to VA. With the British moving northward from Charleston. Virginia was desperate to recreate a force to replace the lost units. Through collecting the veterans of Charleston and the levying of the militia from the counties, the 1st VA Battalion (aka The Virginia Battalion) was organized under Lt. Col. Thomas Gaskins (previously of the 5th VA Regt of 1778). Command of the Battalion was briefly (less than a month) taken over by Colonel Christian Febiger and then returned to Col. Gaskins by General LaFayette. Gaskins commanded the 1st VA Battalion until after the surrender on 19 Oct. 1781 at Yorktown of Lord Cornwallis. Lt. Col. Thomas Posey succeeded Gaskins as commander. Documents transcribed from Wright's "The Continental Army" state- <<On February 12, 1781, a board of officers met at Chesterfield Court House, Virginia and created the First Virginia Regiment as a "paper" organization. With over 1,300 Virginia Continentals still held prisoner at Charleston, South Carolina, the reorganization was largely designed to establish relative seniority of the officers. The personnel who had managed to escape capture were formed into a temporary battalion under Lt. Col. Thomas Posey.>> This quote is inconsistent with the record that in a squabble over seniority Col. Christian Febiger took over The Virginia Battalion from Lt. Col. Thomas Gaskins (for less than a month) until General LaFayette reinstated Gaskins who commanded through the Fall of Yorktown in October 1781. Posey took command from Gaskins in the late fall of 1781. _______________ David, Any comment? Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]>

From URL: http://wm.rhodesfamily.org/Wm2ndVA.htm   <<About June 1781, the American captives at Charleston were exchanged, or paroled, and warned not to be within forty miles of a British camp. Most of the men went home, but some of the soldiers did not heed the warning, and private James Keep and Corporal William Rhodes where put under command of Captain Alexander Parker at Yorktown, Virginia. Parker’s Company was made up the few veterans left in Virginia’s Continental Army since the fall of Charleston SC. On October 1781 at Yorktown, Virginia, Captain Alexander Parker's company was given the post of honor, the front line-right flank of Anthony Wayne's Brigade on the attack force against the British. In the late fall of 1781, Captain Alexander Parker's company of old soldiers were included in a newly formed Virginia Battalion, commanded by Lieut. Col. Thomas Posey. His battalion consisted of nine companies from various Virginia regiments, and Captain Parker's company was its Light Infantry. The Battalion was sent south under General Arthur St. Clair during the winter of 1781 to aid General Greene, and they where put under the command of General "Mad" Anthony Wayne in an attempt to recapture Charleston, SC and Savannah, Georgia. >> __________ David This account seems to get at the organization of The Virginia Battalion. Note the influx of veterans in June and the suggestion that the companies were organized by old regiment affiliation. This suggests that the reference to the 14th was to previous service of the individual. Incidentally, this also doesn't give Posey credit as commander until late fall 1781. Gaskins could well be in command from Feb to Oct 1781. What do you think? Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]>

David, Based on the following, it appears that Thomas Gaskins' Battalion of 1781 was designated the "1st VA Battalion." 1) From URL: http://www.virginiacampaign.org/gaskins/notes.html <<Berg’s Encyclopedia of Continental Army Units states on page 124 that “The 1st Virginia Battalion” [Gaskins’ Virginia Battalion] was commanded by Colonel Christian Ferbinger (sic). However, we know that Febiger only commanded the battalion for less than thirty days until Lafayette corrected the situation.>> _____________ 2) From URL: http://www.revwar75.com/ob/va.htm <<1st (Febiger's/Posey's) Virginia Battalion [1781-1782]  - [A] 1st (Wood's) Virginia Regiment [1783]  - [B] Furloughed July 1783; Disbanded Nov. 1783          VA-21A-01. 1st VA [? Bde.] 9 Oct 1781 3 May 1782 Yorktown, Cumberland Old Court House ‡Original: HS Penn, Am 60733. >> This reference is for period Oct 1781 to May 1782. ______ 3) From URL: http://www.myrevolutionarywar.com/states/va/index.htm <<Virginia Line The Virginia Battalion Commanded by Lt. Col. Thomas Posey; formed in Feb 1781 with personnel who had managed to escape capture at Charleston>> __________ 4) From URL: http://www.virginiacampaign.org/units.htm <<The Virginia Battalion of 1781 Continental Commanders: Lt. Col. Thomas Gaskins, Col. Christian Febiger, Lt. Col. Thomas Posey Assigned to: Gen. Wayne's Brigade, Gen. Steuben's Division (Sept.-Oct.) (remnants of the 1st Virginia Regiment and 2nd Virginia Regiment also served in this battalion) >> _______________ I think the 1st VA Battalion should note commanders, Gaskins/ Febiger/ Posey as per the forth reference. Still no reference to the 14th VA. Best regards, Hugh <[email protected]>

Hugh wrote: "The reference to the 14th VA in the rolls you cite still doesn't make sense to me" It doesn't to me either, nor to the folks at VA State Library as well as many on this list who are much better read than I am. But I predict it will soon! <grin> Best Regards David Armstrong Elkins, WV

I'm research my gr grandafathers line. Some said perhaps they could have been Hugenots. They we're french who came in tho fight in American Revolution and stayed. Any help appreciated. I'm hitting all those famous brick walls. Sandel