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Sons of the American Revolution Or Daughters of the American Revolution books. Depending on where you live check the library for Books on proven soldiers that served Do you have the name of her mother? Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 12, 2019, at 4:02 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > Send AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body > subscribe to [email protected] > > To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and > body unsubscribe to [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of AMERICAN-REVOLUTION digest..." > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Stevens ([email protected]) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 09:34:33 -0800 > From: [email protected] > Subject: [AMERICAN-REVOLUTION] Stevens > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > What military source would I check if I am looking for a man last name of Stevens, from Vermont or Connecticut? > > All I know is that he was the father of Uzziel Stevens b 1777 in Vermont or Connecticut. > > And that he supposedly served in the war. > > Thanks. > > Paul > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > To contact the %(real_name)s list administrator, send an email to > %(real_name)[email protected] > > To post a message to the AMERICAN-REVOLUTION mailing list -- [email protected], send an email to %(real_name)[email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to %(real_name)[email protected]%(host_name)s > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > ------------------------------ > > End of AMERICAN-REVOLUTION Digest, Vol 11, Issue 19 > ***************************************************
What military source would I check if I am looking for a man last name of Stevens, from Vermont or Connecticut? All I know is that he was the father of Uzziel Stevens b 1777 in Vermont or Connecticut. And that he supposedly served in the war. Thanks. Paul
"consistant" with the dates on our records, but research in the '70's until recently have them more exact, but within the "ranges" of the information that was apparently presented originally. Additionally, John's wife's dates of birth and death, along with those of his children are correct...John's brother James, was in charge of the North Carolina Militia until his death in 1800, when he was succeeded by his son, John Bushrod Crump, II. John is burried in NC in Montgomery county mear the narrows on the East Side of the Yadkin (Pee Dee) River, in what is now the Baden Lake Area of the Uwharrie National Forest. My question is: was he, in fact, approved, and is there any information on what unit he was in or what his military service was? All I have been told is that he was assigned to General Green, and was in that battle. John was from Virginia, and we think that he migrated to North Carolina in about 1777. Thats when he sold his land in Virginia. Finally, John was a public servant. He was what was called an "Entry Taker", which translates to a Clerk of Court, or thereabouts. And another reference source tells me that he was recorded as "John Crump, E.T. was a Revolutionary Soldier in the State of Virginia. See Vol 9 Page 82. Also see War Department." Was he a Virginia or North Carolina troop? If these numbers, etc. are a part of DAR's records, I would LOVE to have some documentation of it. Can I get copies - how? Ed in Louisiana - working on Crumps from 1619 - 1800! ========================================================================= From: Chet Swanson <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: To anyone and everyone who just joined - Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:06:00 At 06:53 PM 11/25/96 -0500, Nancy Whitman wrote: > > >I think - in order to get this on digest - you might try.... >SUB DIGEST AMERICAN-REVOLUTION in the body of the message. > >and send it to [email protected] > >Anyone have a better idea for Jennifer? > Actually, if the digest is working for this list the actual command is: set american-revolution digest and it is sent to [email protected] However, due to problems with the maiser program a lot of the lists will not work in the digest mode Chet -- C. V. (Chet) Swanson Jr. Everett, WA mailto:[email protected] ***PLEASE, NO LONG FILES WITHOUT ASKING FIRST*** ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: . Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 04:56:48 -0500 SUB AMERICAN-REVOLUTION ========================================================================= From: Reuben Robertson <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: DAR LISTS QUESTION Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:38:33 -0800 How do the qualifications for NSDAR membership differ from those of the Sons of the American Revolution -- other than the applicant's gender? There is also a Sons of the Revolution organization, which I take it is distinct form the Sons of the American Revolution -- can anyone provide info about that group, its membership qualifications, and its interests and activities? Reuben Robertson [email protected] wrote: > > DAR only has those Patriots used by DAR members. That leaves a whole > kajillion Patriots who were involved who are NOT in the Patriot Index. New > Patriots are being proven every day by ladies such as you. > > You might want to find a listing of soldiers who participated in the Battle > of Stillwater. That can probably be found through county research (the > county where he lived when he was activated for service). > > All Patriots in DAR were not necessarily soldiers. There is a whole realm of > qualifications that include...Declaration of Independence signers; those who > fed the troops (many Quakers participated in this fashion); signers of Oath > of Allegiance/Fidelity; those who provided ammo or clothing for the > troops...and the list goes on and on. It is basically in prooving that these > people (both men and women qualify) participated in the cause through loyalty > to the cause of independence. Believe it or not, this was the minority of > the U.S. population! ========================================================================= From: Frances L VanScoy<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: unsubscribe american-revolution Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:43:29 -0500 unsubscribe american-revolution ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Matross Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:10:28 -0500 According to A TO ZAX by Barbara Jean Evans matross was a private in the army who aided the artillery gunners to load, fire, sponge, etc. the guns. ========================================================================= From: "John G. West" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: John Crump - PRIVATE SOLDIER Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 06:19:32 -0600 A great little booklet on the Battle of Guildford Courthouse by Hugh F. Rankin entitled: Greene and Cornwallis: The Campaign in the Carolinas, (Raleigh 1976), copyright, 1976, Department of Cultural Resources, Division of Archives & History [paperback, 86 pages - price $2.00 1981]. From what I read in this book is that this battle led to Cornwallis' surrender. As Cornwallis and his troops retreated, he demanded food, clothing & other provisions from the farmers along the way. These farmers gave little or no provisions as they hid what they had. Then as Greene came through they gave material aide to him and his troops. My ancestor, Thomas West, planter of Chatham Co., NC was one of these farmers. It has been said that Cornwallis basically surrendered due to the lack of supplies and provisions for his army. Farmers like Thomas West made that possible. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ John G. West ----- [email protected] Home Page ----- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/ Tri-State Gen. Soc. -- http://www.evansville.net/~tsgs/tsgs.html Sons of the Amer Rev -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/mysar.html KyGenWeb-Grayson -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/grayson.html KyGenWeb-Hardin -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/hardin.html KyGenWeb-LaRue -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/larue.html KyGenWeb-Christian -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/christco.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ========================================================================= From: Julie Forrest <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: SET NO MAIL Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:26:10 -0800 Hi all... I'm going to need to set no mail for a few days... I'm sure that I'm not alone as many people will be gone/or taking a break for a few days. My question is this... after I am ready to resume... can I get any of the mail or at least the digests from the previous few days??? Hate to miss whats going on... JUlie -- Julie Forrest | Dynamic System Solutions, Inc. [email protected] | (770) 887-5925 http://www.dss-inc.com | (770) 887-2196 fax. ========================================================================= From: Julie Forrest <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Looking for: Wohlfarth/Wolford Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 07:48:14 -0800 Hi again... I am looking for Revolutionary War service for the sons of a certain family... Their fathers surname was Wohlfarth and the sons have referred to themselves as Wolford in later land records... Before the war, they were in Philadelphia County, PA and after the war they were around Bedford County, PA, both of which are on the Maryland border. Also not far from VA. Their names are: John Wolford/Wohlfarth Godfrey Wolford/Wohlfarth Frederick Wolford/Wohlfarth Moses Wolford/Wohlfarth I did find a reference on CD 146 for a Frederick Wolford; Private, Smith's Company, 2nd US Levies (Reg. Army), Lt. Col. Gibson, 1791-1792, N.F.I. Does the above mean anything to anybody??? Julie -- Julie Forrest | Dynamic System Solutions, Inc. [email protected] | (770) 887-5925 http://www.dss-inc.com | (770) 887-2196 fax. ========================================================================= From: Ken/Nancy Pascal <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: (no subject) Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 08:55:14 -0800 UNSUB AMERICAN-REVOLUTION ========================================================================= From: Keith A McGuire <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: 2nd Virginia Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:00:48 -0500 Good Morning All, Does anyone have information or sources for the following: Capt. CHRISTIAN'S Co. of Regulars of the 2nd Va. Regt. in the year 1760, commanded by Capt. Wm.BYRD. Searching for the soldier James McGuire of this Regiment. Thanks for the help. Keith McGuire [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Roberts, Broughton, Lemasters, and Brown Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:24:51 +0200 (EET) I am looking for information regarding: Cornelious Roberts (b. ca 1744 - d. 24 Jun 1788) m. Mary Ellen Benton (?) Job Broughton (b. 30 Oct 1755) m. Elizabeth Benjamin Lematers (b. 15 Jun 1756 - d. 16 Dec 1837) m. Rebecca Ann Martin William Brown, Jr. (b. 20 May 1730 - d. 5 Dec 1803) m. Jane Doak Does anyone have any information other than what is stated above? Thank you. BJ Hillier ========================================================================= From: Margaret L Edwards<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: Benjamin Grayson Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 09:24:42 EST This was sent to me by Terry & Martha Lawson, being cousins of my on my Grayson line. Thought you might enjoy it. Any Graysons descendants that might want to help contact the person listed below. Maggie Graysons, Belle Air Prince William County, Virginia The hill rises above the surrounding terrain, a quiet verdant island in the heart of densely developed Marumsco Hills near Woodbridge. There are almost five acres, isolated from the surrounding neighborhoods by a thick perimeter of trees. From the level hilltop, one can see the Potomac to the south, and, on a clear day, the Maryland shore. It is a place where congregations gather for Easter sunrise services. At the top of this prominent hill near the center of his plantation, Benjamin Grayson established his home, Belle Air. Benjamins children were raised here and some buried here along with others of the family. From this place, the Graysons made their contributions as frontier planters and merchants, as leaders in early political thinking, as officers in the revolution , as a framer of our Constitution and as a first United States Senator from Virginia. Today, a handsome old home, built on the foundations of the original, occupies the hilltop. The original structure was destroyed in the War Between the States. Nearby on the hillside, is the Grayson burial vault built =93. . .in the style of the old vault at Mt. Vernon.=94 Bronze plaques have been affixed by the DAR. The present owner and resident for many years has been a wonderful steward of the site. Now the time has come for her to leave, and the property is offered for sale. The most likely use is development into building lots, according to the real estate sales agent. This rare piece of American heritage would then be lost for all time. A small group of Grayson descendants in Georgia, along with a growing number of friends in Virginia and Prince William, have begun a movement to save =93Belle Air.=94 The vision is to create a public cultural resource for the study and the interpretation of the key roles played by early citizens of Old Prince William in the history of colonial Virginia, revolutionary America and early American government. Inclusion of the visual arts, literature and trades of the period is contemplated.. Those wishing more information and periodic status reports are invited to contact Leigh C. Havle at 703-369-4677. Benjamin Grayson, born about 1684, may have arrived in Prince William as early as 1715. In his eulogy, the Reverend Mr. Scott said of Benjamin, =93=He had come into the county from the lower parts of Virginia, his broad ax on his shoulder, that his industry and good management, his being executor to some good estates and his marrying a rich widow, had enabled him to acquire a large estate. Benjamin established himself as a successful merchant. He acquired a large bakery at Occoquan from which biscuits=94 were distributed throughout the frontier, and he accumulated large land holdings. He served as a colonel of local militia. Benjamin did marry a rich widow, in fact, two of them. First, Susanna Monroe, the widow of William Linton and of Charles Tyler. Susanna would be the aunt of James Monroe, fifth President of the United States. After Susannas death in 1752, Benjamin married the Widow Ewell. There were four children, all by Susanna Monroe; Benjamin, Spence, William and Susanna. Benjamin Grayson died in 1757 and was buried at Belle Air. Benjamin Grayson was closely associated with the Lee, Fairfax, Carter, and Washington families of the neighborhood. These business, social and political connections were an important legacy to his children who continued these family associations throughout the tumultuous years of their lives and the birth of a new nation. Benjamin Grayson ,the second, continued his fathers business at Colchester. An able merchant, he prospered and expanded into new ventures. He added additional lots in Colchester to those inherited from his father. He acquired Belmont, the thousand acre Mason Neck plantation. Young Benjamin involved himself in development of a flour mill, bakery and store on the Occoquan, the construction of a new tobacco warehouse in Colchester and even a commercial winery. He became a justice of the Fairfax Court in 1763. Debt accumulated as a result of these ventures, and in 1765 and 1766 his creditors were foreclosing or forcing the sale of his holdings. Benjamin and his wife Elizabeth left for Loudoun County to begin anew. He died in 1768, leaving Elizabeth in a comfortable condition. She, in turn, left a son and a daughter with what has been described as a handsome estate. Spence Monroe Grayson , born 1734, inherited his fathers Belle Air Educated in England, Spence returned to Prince William and applied himself to the affairs of Belle Air. He was quite successful at Belle Air. Then at mid-life, he went again to England to study theology, returning home in 1771 as the Reverend Spence Grayson. He served as rector of Cameron Parish and then of Dettingen Parish in Prince William. Spence was active in events foreshadowing the Revolution, and he served in that war with the rank of Captain as Chaplain of Graysons Additional Regiment, a unit named for his brother William. He was . .a fighting as well as a praying parson, according to his son-in-law Lund Washington. A life-long friend of George Washington, Reverend Grayson was asked by the General to officiate at the marriage of Washingtons nephew, George Augustine Washington, at Mount Vernon. Spence married Mary Elizabeth Wagener and they had seventeen children. Spence Grayson died in 1798 and was buried at Belle Air. William Grayson , born 1736, was educated at the College of Philadelphia and in England at Oxford where he graduated. He then studied law at the Temple in London. Returning to Prince William, he settled at Dumfries and had established a successful law practice before he was thirty. He was a leader in the rebellious events of the day; a signer of the Leedstown Resolution, elected to the committee of correspondence, and later chosen Captain of Prince Williams-and Virginias-first company of minutemen. He was among those who served on the Committee of Safety for Prince William. When fighting began, he was appointed assistant secretary to George Washington. Two months later he was the Generals aide-de-camp. William was with Washington at Valley Forge, had attained the rank of colonel, and fought in the battles of Long Island, White Plaines, Brandywine and Germantown. Colonel Grayson distinguished himself at Monmouth in command of his regiments and attached brigades. He was elected to the Continental Congress in 1784 after the successful conclusion of the war. He was president of that Congress in 1788. He served with distinction, and is credited with the successful passage of the Northwest Ordinance, setting the course for the new nations westward expansion. He was sent the same year to the Virginia Convention called to consider the new Constitution of the United States which he had helped to create. Grayson stood with Patrick Henry in opposing a strong central government with its threats to the freedom of individuals, and he was concerned that domination of such a government by the northern states majority would lead to domination of the southern states and to future conflict. Through their opposition, these antifederalists were able to negotiate the amendments that we know as the Bill of Rights that protect the rights of individuals from an overly powerful government. William Grayson was one of the first two United States Senators elected from Virginia. The other was Henry Richard Lee. The concerns of Grayson, Henry and their associates are now considered prophetic in light of subsequent events that culminated in the great tragedy of the War Between the States. William married Eleanor Smallwood. There were four sons and a daughter. William Grayson died in 1790 and was buried at Belle Air. Susanna Monroe Grayson, born about 1745, was the only daughter of Benjamin and Susanna Monroe Grayson. She is described as . . . a great beauty and an heiress. Susannah married John Orr, the Scottish Merchant. They made their home at Leedstown on the Rappahannock. ***end*** The Grayson Family of Georgia John Robinson Grayson was born 1779 at his fathers plantation, Belle Air, in Prince William County, Virginia, He was the son of Reverend Spence Monroe Grayson and Mary Elizabeth Wagener. John was one of seventeen children that included his twin brother Thomas Robinson Grayson. Great Britain, ever resentful of the colonies rebellion, continued to devise provocations. Among these was a self-proclaimed right to detain American vessels on the high seas for the purpose of boarding and searching for British citizens. The Royal Navy was not above removing Americans from these ships as there was always need for hands aboard their own. It was in this manner that the boy John Robinson Grayson was impressed by the Royal Navy from the Brig Polly belonging to his brother-in-law Lund Washington and sailing out of the Occoquan. Johns twin brother Thomas was later impressed from the same vessel. John was held for several years by the British before his release was negotiated by the American government. John was twenty-one when released in 1800. The fate of Thomas is unknown. It appears that John took full advantage of his time with the Royal Navy and became a competent seaman. He was a Sailing Master with the rank of captain when the U.S. Navy ordered him to Georgia in the War of 1812. Captain Grayson commanded a squadron of gunboats stationed at St. Marys to patrol the Georgia coast. He resigned his commission when hostilities ended. John elected to remain in Georgia, settled in Savannah and took command of the Liverpool Packet sailing from Savannah and Charleston to Liverpool England. A son was born in Liverpool, the result of a pregnant Mrs. Grayson making the crossing with John. When Johns health began to fail, he took a position with the U.S. Customs House in Savannah. It was written of John, He possessed rare cultivation and refinement, brave as a lion, gentle as a woman, a skillful and intrepid seaman, a polished gentleman and a gallant officer. John Robinson Grayson married Frances Ann Harvey of Charleston in 1816. There were three children; John Langdon, Albert G. and Frances Lucretia. John died in 1822 at age forty-two. He was buried at old Colonial Cemetery in Savannah, but the family plot was moved in 1853 to the new Laural Grove Cemetery. The ravages of time, weather and Union soldiers have taken their toll of his impressive monument, and the grave is unmarked for now. The descendants of John Robinson Grayson will be found today along the southern coast at Charleston in South Carolina; Savannah, Brunswick and Woodbine in Georgia and in Jacksonville, Florida. ***end*** ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Look Ups Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:25:52 +0200 (EET) Hi. Is there anyone out there that can do look ups in "the index?" I have several men that I would like to look up. Thank you. BJ ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Broughton - OOPS Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 16:26:54 +0200 (EET) Sorry folks, I have Job marrying his mother! Job Broughton married Mary Lewis. I apologize. 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Send this command to [email protected] SEND FILELIST and then carefully follow the instructions in that file. **** Larry Stephens ([email protected]) Indiana University Office of Risk Management 400 E. 7th Room 705, Bloomington, IN 47405 812-855-9758 ========================================================================= From: jasgrob<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: Dunmore's War 1774 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:23:07 -0800 A good source of the soldier's on the payrolls at Romney and Winchester is Lloyd DeWitt Bockstruck's book "Virginia's Colonial Soldiers". These abstracts were taken form records at the Virginia State Archives and from the Draper Manuscripts at the Wisconsin State Historical Society. For example: On page 139, John GOREN is listed as being on Capt. William Hancher's Roll. Jim -- James G. Robertson 112 Northwood Place Mabank, TX 75147-9014 ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: DAR Info Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:38:51 -0500 Dear Nancy; The DAR Patriot Index lists those (men and women) who aided the cause of American independence. They did NOT have to be soldiers. They could have provided supplies, signed an Oath of Allegiance, or MANY other things. Only those are listed that are ancestors of DAR members. Just because your ancestor is not in the book does not mean he/she did not have service. In fact more abcestors are added to the list all the time, the the Patriot Index has to be revised. The latest edition was published in 1990 (3-volume set). New ancestors are published 4 times a year in the DAR Magazine. You can order the Patriot Index for $75 and the magazine is $12 per year. Just write to DAR at 1776 D Street, NW, Washington, DC 20006. Just because your ancestors were Quakers, they could have supported the cause by providing supplies, etc. That would make them a Patriot. The DAR and SAR are not the same. There is an SAR Home Page at http://www.sar.org.~carroll. Check it out. Another thing to remember in the past DAR and SAR did not ask for much proof/documentation. There were not as many generations back to the Revolutionary War. As time has past more and more documentation is required. Also many errors were found in the lines. So just because grandmother or grandpa were members, that do not mean you can get in. Good luck. Phyllis ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: John Crump - PRIVATE SOLDIER Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 12:20:56 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-26 02:30:43 EST, [email protected] (Ed Crump) writes: << If these numbers, etc. are a part of DAR's records, I would LOVE to have some documentation of it. Can I get copies - how? >> Yes, these numbers are the members' DAR numbers. Please see my previous note as to how to order copies. (Note of 11-24-96) ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: HELP!?!? Branham Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:23:47 +0200 (EET) Hello. Mary Marshall helped me with look-ups (thank you Mary) and she did not show David Branham listed in the index. Now, can someone steer me the correct direction? I live in Turkey and have no idea where to begin. I have a reference that "David Branham served in the Revolutionary War as a militia man in the company of Captain Jonathon Isom of Montgomery County Militia, as did James Branham, who may have been David's younger borhter. David's Revolutionary War service has been approved by the National Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution." Does someone out there have information on this militia? How/where would I begin? Thank you in advance for your assistance. BJ ========================================================================= From: Joseph Beagle<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: book Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 11:09:23 -0800 Does anyone have the book,"POWs of the AMERICAN REVOLUTION"? I am trying to locate two ancestors in this publication and would appreciate any help.. Their names were BENJAMIN BEVERLY and WILLIAM CREEL..Thank you. JoAnn ========================================================================= From: "John G. West" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: DAR Info Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 14:15:43 -0600 The URL that Phyllis listed for SAR does not work, try instead: http://www.sar.org/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ John G. West ----- [email protected] Home Page ----- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/ Tri-State Gen. Soc. -- http://www.evansville.net/~tsgs/tsgs.html Sons of the Amer Rev -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/mysar.html KyGenWeb-Grayson -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/grayson.html KyGenWeb-Hardin -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/hardin.html KyGenWeb-LaRue -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/larue.html KyGenWeb-Christian -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/christco.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------- > From: [email protected] > To: American Revolution discussion list <[email protected]> > Subject: DAR Info > Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 10:38 AM > > Dear Nancy; > > The DAR Patriot Index lists those (men and women) who aided the cause of > American independence. They did NOT have to be soldiers. They could have > provided supplies, signed an Oath of Allegiance, or MANY other things. Only > those are listed that are ancestors of DAR members. Just because your > ancestor is not in the book does not mean he/she did not have service. In > fact more abcestors are added to the list all the time, the the Patriot Index > has to be revised. The latest edition was published in 1990 (3-volume set). > New ancestors are published 4 times a year in the DAR Magazine. You can > order the Patriot Index for $75 and the magazine is $12 per year. Just write > to DAR at 1776 D Street, NW, Washington, DC 20006. > > Just because your ancestors were Quakers, they could have supported the cause > by providing supplies, etc. That would make them a Patriot. > > The DAR and SAR are not the same. There is an SAR Home Page at > http://www.sar.org.~carroll. Check it out. > > Another thing to remember in the past DAR and SAR did not ask for much > proof/documentation. There were not as many generations back to the > Revolutionary War. As time has past more and more documentation is required. > Also many errors were found in the lines. So just because grandmother or > grandpa were members, that do not mean you can get in. > > Good luck. > Phyllis ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: DAR Patriot Index Lookups Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:33:17 -0500 I'm assuming there are several DAR on this board. I was wondering if those of you who might be interested would contact me about organizing lookups so we have several participating and everyone takes responsibility for several days a month. I'm coordinator of the DAR lookups on Prodigy and would be happy to organize a group to help. The two requirements: DAR Patriot Index, Centennial Edition (1990) and a DAR Handbook (to help you be able to answer questions about DAR). My daughter left to go home this morning (unexpectedly), so I'll be free to take the time to do this. We're getting enough requests, we need several DAR members to help. This is VIS service. Mary Hall Marshall ========================================================================= From: "Karen Turner" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: 2nd VA Regiment of Foot-Col Alex Spotswood Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 15:49:03 -0800 I'm new at everything genealogical, but especially the Revolutionary War, common terms and procedures. I've been given photocopies of payroll records and muster rolls for my husband's ancestor (William Turner). I've spent my life avoiding anything involving history, so I find myself handicapped in trying to make the most of the information I was gifted with. What were the muster rolls used for, and where/why were they used? William Turner's records were for the 2nd Virginia Regiment of Foot (I take it he was in the infantry?) for a period of 10 months. Will anyone take the time to help me interpret what they mean, and get me started in finding out about the 2nd regiment of foot, it's history, and hopefully, something of the life of William Turner? In the remarks section a muster roll record dated May 14, 1777 notes: "(illegible) sick in (looks like) hospital Williamsburg". Another muster record dated Nov 7, 1777 has nothing on it but his name & the date (no remarks, etc.). The third and final muster record is dated December 31, 1777. The time since last muster or enlistment says "Time (expires?) 2 Dec 1780", and the remarks say "One furlough". I don't know anyone locally who can help me, so would appreciate any help anyone can provide. Thanks for listening. Karen King Turner Tracy, CA [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Tim and Terry Patterson <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: DAR Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 18:54:47 -0600 I have noticed that any time I mention the DAR to other researches they seem to have somewhat of an adverse reaction to it. I am trying to document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul. The names I'm trying to come in on are Lewis Williams, Mecklenberg Co. Va., Samuel Overton Pettus and am trying to come in on Thornton Yancey from Hanover Co. Va. Anyone familiar with these names. I am excited about this list but don't have much time right now. I have found so much information since trying to document for the DAR. Well worth the effort even if I don't make it in. Terry ========================================================================= From: "Coy B. Hodge Sr." <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:15:08 -0500 >Return-path: <[email protected]> >Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:21:55 -0500 >From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <[email protected]> >Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown >To: [email protected] > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- >550 rmgate.pop.indians.edu (smtp)... 550 Host unknown >554 <[email protected]>... 550 Host unknown (Authoritative answer from name server) > > ----- Unsent message follows ----- >Received: by news1.sunbelt.net; id AA18987; Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:21:55 -0500 >Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 19:21:55 -0500 >Message-Id: <[email protected]> >X-Sender: [email protected] >X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 >Mime-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >To: [email protected] >From: "Coy B. Hodge Sr." <[email protected]> >Subject: DAR Error corrections > > Need information from anyone that can help, I need name and address of >person to contact to try and correct an entry in the DAR BOOK THAT IS INCORRECT. > >Can anyone help me with this please. > >Thank you, > >Coy B. Hodge Sr. > > ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Dunmore's War Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:16:02 -0500 On 24 Nov, Barb Boese wrote regarding material about Dunmore's War and one of her ancestors. The same day, Paula Ward replied citing "Settlement and Indian Wars, etc. First of all, the M'Clenachan Paula mentioned in her message I'm proud to say, is my gggg-grandfather, killed at the Battle of Point Pleasant, October 1774. To Barb, I have been trying to obtain a copy of Dunmore's War for several months only to have found out that it is now out of print. :-( Anyhow, I visited the Library of VA in Richmond ealier this year and then to Staunton and finally Point Pleasant West Virginia to see the battle site and the memorial with his name along with all the others. Nothing can adequately describe that. Anyhow, I brought back quite a bit of stuff on the battle. If Barb Boese from Dodge City would contact me with the full name of her ancestor and possibly anything else, I'll see what I can come up with. To the rest of the list, hello everyone and I wanted to share the above tidbit with everyone and wish them the same degree of luck I had earlier in this year coming up with all this info. If anyone else has reference to the surnames of M'CLENACHAN, McCLENAHAN, McCLENACHAN or McCLANAHAN, I would appreciate hearing from you. Yes, they spelled the name as aforementioned and in some other ways. Those 4 are the most common. I do know that the M'CLENACHAN killed at the Point Pleasant Battle had a brother who fought thru the Rev. War until he retired as a Col. in 1778. His name was Alexander. The family came from Staunton, Augusta County, VA. Happy Thanksgiving to everyone. "The aim of arguement, or of discussion, should not be victory, but progress."....Joseph Joubert Joe [email protected] 120 Apple Hill Lane Battle Creek, MI 49017 ========================================================================= From: Mary Hill <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: AR ancestors Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:55:53 -0500 (EST) Hi! I've enjoyed reading about everyone's ancestors and the various battles. Someone mentioned something about everyone posting a query - I missed that message (along with the list intro) so I'm just now posting my info: 1) Capt. James Ewing of the Augusta VA militia: although I have copies of various records (eg., bills of sale for milita goods, etc) and I have the minutes from a number of officer's meetings (from 1776), I do not know in what battles he might have participated. I believe that he was in the militia during the early and mid-1770's, but that is all that I know. Does anyone have any information on the Augusta Co. militia? 2) Edward McMullin: he was a surveyor in VA (probably Augusta Co) during the French & Indian War. I don't think that he fought during the revolution but I don't know if he continued his work as a surveyor. 3) Zephaniah Holcomb: he was in the NY militia - probably serving out of Albany. I'm interested in anything that I can learn about Zeph and his service. 4) Return Holcom: He was Zeph's father and lived in Connecticut. He fought in the Conn. milita. - again, I'm interested in whatever information anyone has. In addition to these specific ancestors, I'm interested in reading what others have found about battles and milita/army units located near my ancestors - understanding the environment in which these people lived gives me a better idea of what life was like for them. Thanks, Mary ************************************************************* Mary Hill, M.A. Doctoral Candidate, Psychology Ohio State University [email protected] ************************************************************* ========================================================================= From: Glenn/Anne Sanders<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: AKERS, BROWN, HULS, SHANKLIN, and Adios! Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:29:49 -0700 Hi all, First, I love this list - probably the best I've seen on the 'net! But without a digest mode, I just can't handle all of the traffic. So for now I am going to have to unsub. Will someone wake me up if digest mode is ever implemented, please? ----------- I have these known Rev. War ancestors, please contact me at my e-mail address if you are interested. I have much more information on most of these: John SAUNDERS of Guilford Co. NC, b. abt. 1735/40, died in 1780 supposedly in service on a march to S.C. His wife's name was Susanna. Three children that I know of. Robert SAUNDERS, John's son, of Guilford (later Rockingham) County, NC; Montgomery Co. VA after 1800. He was born about 1760; his wife's name was Anna; at least nine children. Austin AKERS, b. abt. 1760 in Buckingham Co. VA. He is physically described in the Chesterfield Register, as a soldier from Montgomery Co. VA. His wife's name was Rhoda THOMPSON. Many children. Valentine AKERS, Austin's brother; also described in the Chesterfield Register. James SHANKLIN, b. 1760 Chester Co. Pennsylvania, d. 1809 Rockingham Co. VA, married Hannah HOPKINS 5/13/1794. If you are descended from him, I have a wonderful surprise to share with you! John BROWN (DAR), b. 1760 Washington Co. MD, died same place 1827; married Elizabeth GASTON in 1787. James HULS, b. 1743 Amherst Co. VA; died 1804 Fleming Co. KY; m. Rachel FLEMING 1782. ------ Glenn Sanders [email protected] ========================================================================= From: "John G. West" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: DAR Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:10:17 -0600 I think you said it when you mentioned that: "I am trying to document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul." That is why many researchers take an adverse reaction to your efforts to document properly your ancestry. And this statement says why you should do it: " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ John G. West ----- [email protected] Home Page ----- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/ Tri-State Gen. Soc. -- http://www.evansville.net/~tsgs/tsgs.html Sons of the Amer Rev -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/mysar.html KyGenWeb-Grayson -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/grayson.html KyGenWeb-Hardin -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/hardin.html KyGenWeb-LaRue -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/larue.html KyGenWeb-Christian -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/christco.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------- > From: Tim and Terry Patterson <[email protected]> > To: American Revolution discussion list <[email protected]> > Subject: DAR > Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 6:54 PM > > I have noticed that any time I mention the DAR to other researches they > seem to have somewhat of an adverse reaction to it. I am trying to > document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul. > > The names I'm trying to come in on are Lewis Williams, Mecklenberg Co. > Va., Samuel Overton Pettus and am trying to come in on Thornton Yancey > from Hanover Co. Va. Anyone familiar with these names. > > I am excited about this list but don't have much time right now. I have > found so much information since trying to document for the DAR. Well > worth the effort even if I don't make it in. > > Terry ========================================================================= From: "John G. West" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: DAR Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 22:15:39 -0600 I think you said it when you mentioned that: "I am trying to document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul." That is why many researchers take an adverse reaction to your efforts to document properly your ancestry. And this statement says why you should do it: "I have found so much information since trying to document for the DAR." Plus you are documenting your line and then recording it with the DAR (or SAR). By the way, the Sons of the American Revolution are slightly older organization than the Daughters of the American Revolution. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ John G. West ----- [email protected] Home Page ----- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/ Tri-State Gen. Soc. -- http://www.evansville.net/~tsgs/tsgs.html Sons of the Amer Rev -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/mysar.html KyGenWeb-Grayson -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/grayson.html KyGenWeb-Hardin -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/hardin.html KyGenWeb-LaRue -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/larue.html KyGenWeb-Christian -- http://www.evansville.net/~mylines/christco.html ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ---------- > From: Tim and Terry Patterson <[email protected]> > To: American Revolution discussion list <[email protected]> > Subject: DAR > Date: Tuesday, November 26, 1996 6:54 PM > > I have noticed that any time I mention the DAR to other researches they > seem to have somewhat of an adverse reaction to it. I am trying to > document for the DAR and it is going to be a long haul. > > The names I'm trying to come in on are Lewis Williams, Mecklenberg Co. > Va., Samuel Overton Pettus and am trying to come in on Thornton Yancey > from Hanover Co. Va. Anyone familiar with these names. > > I am excited about this list but don't have much time right now. I have > found so much information since trying to document for the DAR. Well > worth the effort even if I don't make it in. > > Terry ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: DAR Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:52:23 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-26 21:01:44 EST, [email protected] (Tim and Terry Patterson) writes: << The names I'm trying to come in on are Lewis Williams, Mecklenberg Co. Va., Samuel Overton Pettus and am trying to come in on Thornton Yancey from Hanover Co. Va. Anyone familiar with these names. I am excited about this list but don't have much time right now. I have found so much information since trying to document for the DAR. Well worth the effort even if I don't make it in. >> Dear Terry, You only need to prove one of them to join DAR. You'll do supplementals on the others later. Most DAR chapters are very open to new members. You join as a prospective or provisional member and complete your paper work afterward. Sometimes there are gals in the chapter who enjoy doing genealogy and will help you. If you're interested in a chapter in your area, one of us on here can help you make contact. Please don't delay because of a scarcity of time. Most of us suffer from THAT malady! Mary ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Corrections to Lineages Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 23:52:25 -0500 Coy, you can send the proofs to "Corrections Genealogist", NSDAR, 1776 D St. N.W., Washington, DC 20006. When documented proof of error is submitted, it's my understanding that the appropriate corrections are made. Mary ========================================================================= From: Roy Edmund Romans II <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: MAYNARD, James Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 11:12:45 -0800 Greetings, I am seeking information regarding one of my Revolutionary ancestors, one James Maynard, who was born in 1750, Virginia and served the North Carolina troops under Captain Jesse FRANKLIN and Colonel Benjamin CLEVELAND as a private. His pensions claim number was W10212 Thanks to any and all who may reply. Happy Thanksgiving! In Kinship, Roy E. Romans <[email protected]> http://www.kansas.net/~romans/index.html My family coat of arms ties at the back.....is that normal? ========================================================================= From: Billie Jo Hillier <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Thanks everyone Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 21:18:02 +0200 (EET) I had wonderful responses from several of you offering to perform look-ups. Just FYI, I received about 3-4 messages offering look-ups - so there out there. This is a very helpful list! Question? Do I have to be a member of DAR to subsribe to the yearly periodical and to buy the index? I think it will be difficult for me to prove my birth, etc. since I live in Turkey and have no idea where MY birth certificate is!! But, I would really like to have the reading materials for my enjoyment and to help others. So far, it looks as though I have eight men to register under. I need to find the closest one to me, I know. Does anyone have any words of wisdom where to start. I have received bit mail on what to do but the steps are not there. Request applications first? Find birth and marriage certificates first? How do I find out who registered and where the smallest generation gap is between my ancestor and me? I am very new at this so please excuse my ignorance. Thanks for your time. Thank you again for those that were willing to help me with look ups. I accepted the first offer and she helped me for now. I will try again after the holidays pass. HAVE A GREAT REMAINDER OF '96!! BJ in Adana, TU ========================================================================= From: jasgrob<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: Re: DAR LISTS QUESTION Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 14:52:24 -0800 Reuben Robertson wrote: > > How do the qualifications for NSDAR membership differ from those of the > Sons of the American Revolution -- other than the applicant's gender? > > There is also a Sons of the Revolution organization, which I take it is > distinct form the Sons of the American Revolution -- can anyone provide > info about that group, its membership qualifications, and its interests > and activities? > > Reuben Robertson Reuben, The Sons of the Revolution was formed in 1883. To qualify your patriot must have been in the armed forces of the Continental Congress, i.e. militia, army, navy or marines. While it is the oldest of the lineage organizations, it is the smallest and is less well known. The Sons of the American Revolution was formed in 1889. Any man 18 years or over who is the lineal descent of an ancestor who at all times was unfailing in loyalty to, and rendered active service in, either as an officer, soldier, seaman, marine, militiaman or Minuteman, in the armed forces of the Continental Congress, or of any one of the several Colonies or States; or as a signer of the Declaration of Independence, or as a member of a Committee of Safety or Correspondence; or as a member of any Continental, Provincial, or Colonial Congress or Legislature; or as a recognized patriot performed actual service by overt acts of resistance to the authority of Great Britain. The overt acts of resistance, includes such items as providing food, clothing, signing oaths of allegience, etc. The DAR was formed a year or so later, I do not have the actual year. As I understand their requirements, they are much the same as for the SAR. I have worked with my wife on 9 DAR applications and couldn't tell any difference in the requirements. My observation is that the DAR is more a stickler for preciseness in documentation than is the SAR. For men or women under 18, there is the Children of the American Revolution. Chapters are fewer and mainly located in larger metropolitan areas. Jim -- James G. Robertson 112 Northwood Place Mabank, TX 75147-9014 ========================================================================= From: Paula Ward <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: DAR Patriot Index Lookup Request Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 16:07:22 -0600 Hello, Mary, or someone else who might be helping, At 01:30 AM 11/25/96 -0500, you wrote: >Please give me all you know about them as far as name, where they >lived/served from, dates of birth/death, name of spouse. That will help me >look them up for you in the DAR Patriot Index. I will just ask about one of my Rev. War ancestors: KELLY/KELLEY, James. b. abt 1758. He was "from" Bedford Co VA. Married Elizabeth SLEDD 6 Nov 1787 Amherst Co VA. James died abt 1835 Daviess Co KY. BIRTH: The year 1758 is the approximate year of birth of James Kelley. When James Kelley declared his military service in the Revolutionary War in order to obtain a pension, in court at Daviess County, Kentucky, on 11 October 1832, he stated that he was 74 years old. MILITARY: Revolutionary War Pensioner. National Archives record. James Kelley, Survivor, Revolutionary War, Pension No. S6549. He was a Private in Captain Bluford's Company of the Regiment commanded by Colonel Lewis in the Virginia Line for a total of 15 months. He applied for his pension on 11 October 1832 in Daviess County Court, State of Kentucky. His age at that time was 74 years. 1778: James Kelley volunteered for his first tour of duty under Captain James Bluford, in Colonel Lewis' Regiment under General Christy, Commander-in-Chief. Fought against the Cherokee Indians. Two months service. (James Bluford was probably James Buford; General Christy might be correct, or the name may have been General William Christian.) 1779: James Kelley was drafted for his second tour of duty under Captain John Paxton, Col. George Skillron, General Hande, Commander. Fought against the Shawnee Indians. Two months service. 1780: James Kelley enlisted as a State Soldier (Virginia) for his third tour of duty, under John Graves Captain, James Lucus Colonel, General Stephens Commander. They had a skirmish with Tarleton's Horse at Sloan's Ferry on the Yadkin River. Eight months service. 1781: James Kelley enlisted for his fourth tour of duty and served under Captain Calloway, Col. Tucker, and General Lawson. He was at the siege of York when Lord Cornwallis was captured. Three months service. "...This applicant resided in the County of Bedford...in the state of Virginia and continued a citizen of Virginia until about the year 1817 when he removed to Kentucky. He was, from information from his ancestors, born in 1758. He now resides in Daviess County, Kentucky...[in 1832]" (from Pension application) !MILITARY: The following is from: Summers, Lewis Preston. "Annals of Southwest Virginia, 1769-1800", Kingsport Press, Kingsport Tenn., 1929: p. 1,379: "Appendix I: Revolutionary Soldiers. The following list of Revolutionary Soldiers from Southwest Virginia has been compiled from sources believed to be absolutely reliable...: "(1) The Court records of Botetourt, Fincastle, Montgomery and Washington Counties; "(2) The History of Southwest Virginia by Summers, Lewis; Battle of Point Pleasant, Dunmore's War, by Thwaites; List of Revolutionary Soldiers, published by the Virginia State Library and compiled by H. J. Eckenrode; and from fifteen bound books of letters received from descendants of soldiers by the author during the past twenty-five years." p. 1,419: "Cherokee Expedition" "Officers and a partial list of the privates accompany Col. William Christian upon the Cherokee Expedition in August, 1776: "First Battalion Second Battalion Colonel, William Christian Colonel, Charles Lewis Major, Evan Shelby Surgeon, George Hart. Surgeon, Joseph Starke The Captains were listed as: Isaac Bledsoe, Robert Boggs, John Campbell, William Cocke, Benjamin Gray, Aaron Lewis, Thomas Madison, John Montgomery, William Preston, William Russell, John Sevier, Daniel Smith, James Thompson, and Jacob Womack." Among the many listed as Privates were: James Buford, Jacob Early, Peter Huff, Samuel Ingram, William Ingram, JAMES KELLY (p. 1,420), Johnathan Martin, Samuel Martin, Robert Preston, Joshua Renfro, Daniel Smith, David Smith, James Thomas, Isaac Thomas, Benjamin Thomas, Peter Turney (perhaps Turner?), and James Young. !LAND RECORD: Kentucky Land Warrant No. 2250 is issued to James Kelley on 12 March 1818 for fifty acres on Rough Creek in Ohio County, Kentucky. Thank you for doing this. I know everyone will be busy for the Thanksgiving Holiday. Happy Thanksgiving, everyone! Paula *----------------------------------------------------------------------* Paula Kelley Ward [email protected] or [email protected] Trinity University, San Antonio TX PH 210/736-7432 FAX 210/736-7432 SW VA: KELLEY/KELLY, WEBSTER, PETERS, INGRAM, TURNER, SMITH, WILLIS, PAYNE, HALE, TROUP, SLEDD; KY: KELLEY/KELLY NY, Ireland: MOONEY, MULLEN/MULLIN, DURKIN, WALDRON Germany: HECKMAN, BOHN, JAECKEL, MANDLER I must have lived previous lives. I can't imagine getting this far behind in one life! *----------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= From: Sharon Rinio<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: subcribe Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 13:42:41 -0900 subscribe Lapi Knewelch. Sharon Rinio Library Tech. Ryan Middle School ========================================================================= From: Tomi Reneau <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: (no subject) Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 18:49:50 -0500 subscribe ========================================================================= From: Paula Ward <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: War of 1812 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 00:47:26 -0600 >Return-Path: <[email protected]> >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 19:52:30 -0500 >Reply-To: [email protected] >Sender: Kentucky Genealogy & History Discussions <[email protected]> >From: "Rochelle E. Cochran" <[email protected]> >Subject: War of 1812 >To: Multiple recipients of list KYROOTS <[email protected]> > >Does anyone have info about "The General Society of the War of 1812"? i.e., >requirements for membership, info available, etc.... > >Thanks, Chelle > ========================================================================= From: Linda<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: DAR Look-up, Please Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 09:01:56 -0500 I just found out last night that I have a relative that it is suspected served in the American Revolution. All that I know about him currently is: John McCaskill, b. Scotland, son of Finley McCaskill, one of about 10 brothers, mother, Rachel McLeod. John, I believe, lived in South Carolina. At least, that's where his family ended up. Thanks in advance for any assistance. Linda ========================================================================= From: "Karen Turner" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Possible DAR lookup Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 06:13:13 -0800 My husband's 5th great grandfather served as a private in the VA 2nd regiment of foot under Col Alexander Spotswood and Christian Febiger May of 1877 to March of 1787. His name was William Turner. I believe other people have joined the DAR through his name. I can't, of course, but my granddaughter can. I would like any and all information possible about allied members. Thank you for any information you can provide. Karen King Turner [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Russell Laird <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: FW: Robert HALL-Elizabeth BEDWELL Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996 08:30:56 -0600 ---------- SEARCHING for ANY additional genealogical data for this family. 1777 - Robert HALL [1761-1810] m. Elizabeth BEDWELL [1770-1850] Kent = County,=20 Delaware - was in Capt. John Smith's Company, Colonel Henry Neil's = command, 2nd=20 DELAWARE Regiment October 31,1780. He was wounded and Honorably = discharged on=20 September 13, 1781. This regiment was known as "Delaware's Lost = Regiment." =20 Robert HALL was in attendance at the execution by Hanging, ordered by = General=20 George Washington of the spy Andre` To wit: co-conspiritor with Benedict = Arnold. Andr=E9 (=E4n=B4dr=E2, =E0n=B4dr=EA), John 1751-1780 British army officer hanged as a spy in the American Revolution for = conspiring=20 with Benedict Arnold. Arnold, Benedict 1741-1801 American Revolutionary general and traitor whose plan to surrender West = Point to=20 the British for 20,000 pounds was foiled when his accomplice John = Andr=E9 was=20 captured (1780). Arnold fled to New York and then to England (1781). http://delgensoc.org ROBERT COOPER MOOR=20 12th generation American! PO BOX 5=20 HOCKESSIN, DELAWARE 19707-0005 =20 [email protected] =20 =20 =20 ========================================================================= From: William Disbro <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Date: Thu, 28 Nov 96 05:25 WET Hello Gang I'd like to start a new tread in our discusion of the revolution.While alot of us have patriots in our family that we are all rightly proud of let us not forget the other side of this war.Many of us have family ties to the other side namely loyalist and like me Hessian Soldiers in our tree's . These relatives are no less deserving of our respect.So with that said I would like to know if there are anyone out there that have such relatives and could they also help in the search for our roots . I have a relative that is from the Somerset Co.,PA area named Conrad Silbaugh from oral history we believe he was a deserter from Hessian Forces after the end of the war. Our chief suspect is Conrad Seebach a drummer in the Hesse-Hanau regiment of the Hessian forces sent to the America's to fight for the British as mercenaries.He deserted to the Americans after the war while being held in a POW camp.
Collins Publishers, 1992, pp. 600-03 "On January 17, 1781, the two small armies collided in a place of sandy hills where cattle wandered in open cowpens, which was thus given the name Cowpens. Daniel Morgan chose to fight in what looked like a trap. He held a plain dotted with widely spaced trees in which Tarleton's superior horsemen could easily maneuver, and he had his back to the Broad River. But the Old Wagoner knew his men. If he secured his wings on swamps, as he said later, his miliitia would have vanished through the bogs, and if he crossed the river, half of them would have abandoned him. He wanted no hope of retreat, so that his men would fight the dreaded Tarleton with the desperation of the doomed, and he was certain that his dashing enemy would charge straight ahead, rather than nibble at his exposed wings. So Morgan put about 150 picked riflemen forward in a skirmish line. About 150 yards behind them were about three hundred mmilitia, under Andrew Pickens, and back another 150 yards, on the crest of a hill, was Morgan's main line of about four hundred Continentals, under John Howard. Again to the rear, behind another hill, were about one hundred horse, under the fat but capable William Washington, the cavalryman who had been wounded at Trenton. The sharpshooters in front were not to open fire until the enemy was within fifty yards, and then they were to aim at "the men with the epaulets." They were to deliver two volleys, and then fall back on Pickens's militia. The militia were then to fire only two volleys, before retiring around the American left to the rear of the main line on the hill, there to re-form as a reserve. Morgan promised they would be perfectlysafe. He also informed every man of his plan, so that no one would be alarmed at the withdrawals. Tarleton came on. His legion cavalry rode at the sharpshooters. A scathing fire sent fifteen riderless horses off the field, and the Tory cavalry fled, never to be induced to reenter the battle. Now the main British line moved forward, dragoons on either wing. Here was the crux of the battle. If the militia showed their customary reaction to bared British steel, they would flee. But Pickens's men stayed, firing and loading and firing again to send two volleys into the scarlet line. then, they began running to the left as planned, to get behind the Continentals on the hill. The militia on the right had the farthest to go, and the British dragoons came thundering down on them. Suddenly, out of the American right rear Washington's horsemen came riding. They fell upon the astonished cragoons with whistling sabers, routing and pursuing them, while all Pickens's men gained the rear and re-formed. But the inpetuous British had taken Pickens's retirement to mean the start of the customary retreat, and they came shouting against the main line of Howard's Continentals. Kneeling on the hill, the Americans poured a plunging fire into the enemy. Still, the British advanced. Tarleton put his Highlanders on his left. They stretched beyond the American right. Howard saw that he was being outflanked. He called for his right-hand company to face about. Then they were to wheel and form a right angle to the main line and face about again to blunt the British flanking movement. But they faced about and marched to the rear, and the whole line followed suit. Morgan came rushing up to Howard, shouting, "What is this retreat?" "A change of position to save my right flank," Howard replied. "Are you beaten?{" the Old Wagoner yelled, and Howard shot back scornfully: "Do men who march like that look as though they were beaten?" Morgan nodded, and dashed off to find Howard's men a second position between the two hills. Tarleton, sending victory, pursued. His men broke ranks and rushed forward. William Washington, whose pursuit of the dragoons had carried him ahead of the American line, saw the British confusion. He sent word to Morgan: "They're coming on like a mob. Give them one fire, and I'll charge them." Morgan gave the order to the Continentals; they faced about and blazed away from the hip. the scarlet line crumpled, and Howard cried: "Give them the bayonet!" So it was that an American cheer and American blades went forward, just as Washington's cavalry burst upon the enemy flank and rear like a tornado. After that charge, Pickens's re-formed militia struck the Highlanders down, and the Battle of Cowpens was over, but for an individual and inconclusive mounted skirmish between Tarleton and Washington. Banastre Tarleton himself rode off, his brilliant plumed helmet drooping in a defeat that was nearly total: nine-tenths of his force had been killed or captured, against only twelve Americans killed and sixty wounded. Cowpens was the American Cannae, it was the glittering small gem of the Revolution, and it was brought off by an American backwoodsman, who, like the great Hannibal himself, was merely adapting himself to men and terrain. Moreover, Cowpens made the way of the ware Nathanael Greene easier as he waged his war of attrition against Cornwallis." ========================================================================= From: mary <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: RE: Fraser Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 00:31:43 Hi Mary , in your book about Battles of Revolution, is their anything interesting about the Battle of Saratoga regarding Brig. Gen Simon Fraser (he was Britist, but shot by an Indian Scout on the order of Benedict Arnold) who was killed there, he died on 8 Oct 1777 and is buried at a redoubt on a hill near Saratoga, NY. Thanks, Sylvia [email protected] mary wrote: The book says that Fraser had the mission of enveloping the American left by seizing the high ground to the west of the fort that would be a dominate position.Fraser had a brigade of Artillery " four six-pounders and four three-pounders. The infantry of his wing included the light infantry companies of ten British regiments plus the grenadier companies of the same ten regiments. He also had the battalion companies of the British 24th as well as Lt. Col. Breymann's Brunswick riflemen. Because Fraser commanded the advance corps, his wing also included 50 Indians, about 150 Tories, 80 Canadians, and 50 British Marksmen. Apparently Gen Gates was setting tight and didn't call the order for battle as fast as B. Arnold thought he should. It says that "Arnold begged, stormed, and entreated, but still he coould get no orders" I can't quote all of this story as it goes on for about 10 pages Apparently Arnold became more and more frustrated. It finally says that Arnold called on his old friend Morgan:" That man on the gray house is a host in himself and must be disposed of"Morgan called up Tim Murphy, one of his best marksmen. Murphy was a noted Indian fighter and was known along the frontier for his famous double barreled rifle. He climbed a tree and sighted down on the British general. His first two shots rang out and were near misses. His aids told him he was a target but Fraser disagreed. Murphy's third shot felled Fraser. This is taken from the book Battles of the Revolutionary War by W.J. Wood. Mary Russell [email protected] ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: AR Ancestor "SMITH" Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 02:03:02 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 00:26:39 EST, [email protected] (Margaret E. McDowell) writes: << After the war, the article says, "he moved to South Carolina, married an Indian Princess", >> Do you have her name? His birth or death date? The state from which he served? The son's name is of no help to me. Mary ========================================================================= From: "H.R.HENLY" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: My Revolutionary Ancestor Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:16:05 -0000 Hi, I'm Bob Henly, from Swindon, Wiltshire. UK. Pse have a look at my page on: http://members.tripod.com/~bobhenly/ to read about my rev war ancestor Peter ROBERTSON alias HENLY who hailed from Wiltshire. hero or Rogue or both? CHeers Bob Henly ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Battle of Cowpens Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 05:16:23 -0800 Thank you much for the description of the Battle of Cowpens. I found out that my ancestor John McNUTT was wounded there in the foot & later died of those wounds with lock jaw. I wonder how many men died for not being treated properly? Thanks, Debbie Malec [email protected] Homepage: http://home.sprynet.com/sprynet/drmalec (lists my Rev. War ancestors) ========================================================================= From: Don Seale <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: IN SEARCH OF LT. WILLIAM BROWN Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:59:09 -0800 Hi Mary: Thanks for your offer for a look-up. LT. WILLIAM BROWN, b.c. 1725,VA, married MARY ELIZABETH SEALE. I'm hoping his service record might lead to other information on his descendants. Thanks for your help, Don. -- Don Seale Check out our Seale Family Home Page: http://www.dallas.net/~seale/ Researching: SEALE, BRISTOW, JARVIS, YARBROUGH, ELLIOTT, KNOX (England>VA>GA>AL>MS>LA>TX) RAYMOND, CHAMBERLAIN, PLUMMER (MA>MS>TX>OK) WHETSTONE (SC>FL>TX), HARMON (GA>AR>TX) ========================================================================= From: Nancy Whitman <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Will the real List Owner please let us know!! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:16:56 -0500 Hi Patchez and the rest of AR's..., No, I don't know who is the list owner. So - Would the Real List Owner please let the rest of us know who you are????? (No, its not me, and its not MHMarsh) And noooooo, sorry! I don't have any information as yet on the Baker Family (Elizabeth Baker of No. Kingston). If my health will behave, I will be down in Providence for Christmas - and might be able to find out something then. Kingston is right next to Providence, or almost... Next question - The DAR Patriot Index - is a list of men who fought in the American Revolution; it is considered quite good and is sometimes helpful in getting a date you need on an ancestor, or accessing more data about the ancestor in the DAR files (like who used that ancestor to belong to the DAR or SAR - for they have to have very extensive and exact proff that they are truely related to him. Those files are awfully useful to others who are doing research in the same family lines.) At least I THINK that's what that is all about... How about someone else in the group correcting or adding to that bit of information??????? I've never quite understood why there seemed to be DAR or SAR members on all sides of the family, and just assumed that they were people who were 'joiners' as well as interested in history and genealogy. Nancy [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------ Nancy Whitman [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Flo Dickey <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Nail/Neal RWS Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 08:52:54 -0800 Looking for any information on two RWS ancestors. Julian NAIL also spelled NEALE, appeared on a list of the First Rifle Co., from Amherst Co., VA, commanded by Samuel Jordan Cabell, organized 26 Feb 1776. He received warrant of 120 acres, Capt. Dunston Blackwells-Major Richard Hunt's Battalion. John NEAL, NC/VA/TN He was in the battle of Cowpens. Served in SC, dischared SC, served under Col. Roebuck, Gen. Morgan & Gen. Green. Had a brother, Joseph who also served. Does anyone have information of the above RWS? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks, Flo Neal Dickey -- mailto:[email protected] ========================================================================= From: Nancy Whitman <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: DAR LISTS QUESTION Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:50:11 -0500 Hi Mary, Thanks for looking up Peter Wright and Daniel Clarke. Puzzled as to Daniel's not being on it. Does the DAR list everyone who fought in the war? I have it that he died in the Battle of Stillwater, so does DAR list only those who lived through the war or all those who fought? Here are some more ancestors that I think fought in the Am. Revolution. Some, by time and rank, I assume to have fought, others I don't know... Sgt/Maj Andrew Ross- b APril 20, 1741 Newark NJ, d Nov 9, 1819 Oxford,NY Robert Randall b Oct 25, 1751 Stonington, Ct. d 1833 Courtland NY Sgt Peter Kinny - Ca.1755 NJ d Aug 14, 1832 Portsmouth, Ohio Capt John Michael Clingman b 17 36 Germany, d Jan 26,1816 Portsmouth, Ohio Capt Andrew McFarlane b 1729 Carlisle, PA, d 1777 near Philedelphia from wounds in Rev. War. John Waller- 1732 Stafford, Virginia d Dec 31, 1784 (91?)Stafford, Virginia Benajah Austin b Sept 3 0, 1747 Suffield, Conn d Feb 1, 1781 Rupert, Vt Enos Harmon b Jan 9, 1750 Suffield, Ct, d 1803 Pittsfield, MA Capt Justus Sackett b 1729 East Greenwich, Ct d Mar 16, 1815 Warren Ohio Benjamin Sackett 1762 Warren Ct d April 3, 1844 Warren Ohio. Benjamin Dean May 17 34 COrnwall, Ct..d Aug 13, 1818 William Bailey July 3, 1743l Lebanon, Ct d Aug 10, 18 23 Darien NY Benjamin Bowker 1737 Scituate MA d 1820 William Clapp b Dec 3, 1733 Scituate, MA d 1807 Decon John Whitman 1734 Bridgewater, MA d 1824 Joseph Robbins of Plymouth Ma ? Moses Bennett b 1745 Ashbonham, MA d July 27, 1820 Leonminster, MA Eliakim Stebbins b Nov 17, 1753 MA, d 1836 Vernon, NH. Jesse Lee b 1741 Killingly, Ct and d 1816 Vernon, NH Capt John Wheeler b 1731/2 Petersham, MA d June 12, 1815 Westmoreland (family ledgend is that he was a Minute Man at Concord...) Maj. Russell Bissell b Jan 8, 1756 Bolton, Ct d Dec 18, 1807 Capt Ozias Bissell b May 13, 1731 Vernon, Ct d 1822 BOlton Ct. William Wilson of Manchester, Ct Russell Woodbridge May 8, 1719 d Nov 5, 1782 in Rev. War. Deodatus Woodbridge b Sept 6, 1757 Hartford,Ct. d Feb 2, 1836 Hartford area. Capt Elijah Smith 1723 Belchertown MA (?) d APril 21, 1770 (?) Crown Point Battle on Lake George, NY Rev Ethan Smith 1762 Belchertown, Ma d Aug 2 9, 1849 Boyston, MA family ledgend: a drummer boy in Rev. War. John Loomis b Mar 4, 1732/3 near Manchester, Ct, d 1787 I think all the rest of possible ancestors were Quakers - except for a half-brother of an ancestor, Nathaniel Greene, who got 'removed' from Quaker meeting, (no longer a member), when he insisted on going to war... and ended up a General, a very able one too! The rest, at Providence, I know were Quakers, and those at Nantucket (a neutral zone during the war!) I assume to be all Quakers by that time. Its a long list - but now I am curious about the stories told in my family and my husband's family! One last question - is the DAR listings the same as the SAR lists? I think my grandfather belonged to the SAR and the only way I can figure out how is thru Lt Daniel Clarke or Capt Peter Wright. How does one find out those things? No hurry of course. There have been members of the SAR or DAR on all sides of the family (mine and my husbands) and I am curious as to what they used as a link or links. (Anyone else in the group link up to any of these....?) Happy Thanksgiving Holidays...and Drive Carefully!!!!! Nancy [email protected] ------------------------------------------------------------ Nancy Whitman [email protected] ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: *I'm* reading this list! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 11:36:21 -0500 Hi, {{{{Mary!}}}} Fun meeting you on ANOTHER list! :-) For information about my genealogy research (and pictures of my kids! <BWG>) check out my webpage at http://www.intercall.com/~jmarshal/ I have only one proven DAR Patriot, William REDFIELD of Middletown, CT, but am working on several other supplementals, notably John HERITAGE, b. ca. 1740, m. (lic. 7 Dec. 1768) Susannah MARPLE, and d. 27 Sept 1817. He was a prisoner on the prison ship Old Jersey off the coast of New York during the Revolution, but is not on the list of prisoners which I found in the DAR Library and does not have a pension record. Any other suggestions as to where to look, anyone? I realized yesterday that I have been committing the cardinal sin of replying individually to people who posted queries on this list. I apologize to the rest of you. I usually just "lurk" on lists...enjoy reading them, but don't have much to say. However, this looks like a fun and interesting one! Lynn Marshall, Chairman Connecticut DAR VIS Committee [email protected] Genealogy Forum Staff ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Will the real List Owner please let us know!! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:04:00 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 10:31:30 EST, [email protected] (Nancy Whitman) writes: << How about someone else in the group correcting or adding to that bit of information??????? I've never quite understood why there seemed to be DAR or SAR members on all sides of the family, and just assumed that they were people who were 'joiners' as well as interested in history and genealogy. >> Your interpretation was very good. I assume you're not a DAR member and have figured this out! DAR and SAR are not affiliated organizations, for those who are wondering. However, if you have family members who've belonged to both organizations, you're safe in assuming you have Patriot ancestors. If you want a copy of a DAR application, you can request it by writing a brief letter to Record Copy, NSDAR, 1776 D St., NW, Washington, DC 20006. Your request should be accompanied by a check for $5 (per application) made payable to: Treasurer General, NSDAR. ========================================================================= From: emcraw <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Pension Applications Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 10:08:38 -0700 Hi everyone! If any of you find that an ancestor of yours applied for a Rev War Pension, I strongly urge you to obtain a copy of the application either from the National Archives or from film through one of the LDS Church History Centers. You may not get too much information, but most of them make fascinating reading. On one of mine I got 128 pages of HISTORY! Some genealogy, but just sheer HISTORY. Never leave any stone unturned in genealogy! Just my 2 cents worth. Ellen ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Nail/Neal RWS Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:04:07 -0500 I looked up your Neal/Neale/Nail line in my book, "Neals of Bedford Co., VA" and found nothing. This is one of my lines. Julian - there is nothing in DAR PI John - I'd need date of birth/death and/or wife's name to be able to nail him down. Too many listed to take on such general information. I'm sorry, but I don't have time to list them all. MM ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Correction Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 09:03:53 -0800 Sorry, I posted earlier about a John McNUTT in the Battle of Cowpens. Wrong ancestor! Lt. John McCORKLE was appointed esign of Rockbridge Co. VA milita on 7 JUL 1778 & rejoined the army under General Morgan & died in N.C. from wounds recieved in Battle of Cowpens. Debbie Malec [email protected] ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: DAR LISTS QUESTION Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:14:38 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 11:43:54 EST, [email protected] (Nancy Whitman) writes: << Does the DAR list everyone who fought in the war? I have it that he died in the Battle of Stillwater, so does DAR list only those who lived through the war or all those who fought? >> DAR only has those Patriots used by DAR members. That leaves a whole kajillion Patriots who were involved who are NOT in the Patriot Index. New Patriots are being proven every day by ladies such as you. You might want to find a listing of soldiers who participated in the Battle of Stillwater. That can probably be found through county research (the county where he lived when he was activated for service). All Patriots in DAR were not necessarily soldiers. There is a whole realm of qualifications that include...Declaration of Independence signers; those who fed the troops (many Quakers participated in this fashion); signers of Oath of Allegiance/Fidelity; those who provided ammo or clothing for the troops...and the list goes on and on. It is basically in prooving that these people (both men and women qualify) participated in the cause through loyalty to the cause of independence. Believe it or not, this was the minority of the U.S. population! ========================================================================= From: Sandi Gorin <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: LINCOLN MILITIA - GEORGE ROGERS CLARK - SHAWNEE INDIANS Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 12:43:51 -0500 I know that our ancestor, John GORIN, founder of Glasgow, KY had a noted Rev War service. Have all the records. It was noted in a pension application by his widow that he also saw service in some of the Indian wars but they couldn't find the papers. I was just sent the following by a friend in Fairfax Co VA (from where John served) and am wondering if anyone can help me find more information on this. George Rogers Clark's descendants married into our Gorin line and there were also Gorin-Lewis connections. The Snoddy family came early to Barren Co KY also. TIA for ANY help! Start quote: Last time I was at the VA State Library, I noticed a reference to a John Goran serving under George Rogers Clark during the Rev. War. It was close to closing and I didn't have time to check it. Found a book on the soldiers who served under George Rogers Clark at the Fairfax library last night, and this is what it had, minus the amounts of pay, etc. A Pay Roll of Capt. John Snoddy's Company of Lincoln Militia in Actual Service on an Expedition against the Shawnee Indians and Commanded by George Rogers Clark Brigdr. General this 22 Day of October 1782 Names John Snoddy Capt. Wm. Moore Lieut. Absalom Mounce Ens. George Edwards Anthony Rogers sergt. Michael Faris, Joseph Moore, Martin Moore, Warner Ford, David Briggs, Raley Chinn, Thomas Bogie, John Lewis, John Goran, James Hutchison, Thos. Hutchison, William Watts, Edmund Torrill William Finney, William Trimble, Benjamin Nokes, Robert Terrill, John Pope, Stephen English, John English, Joseph Crisman, Wm. Richardson, Jesse Richardson Wm. Owsley, Thos. Owsley, Daniel Owsley, Anthony Owsley, Edward Carns, John Williams, John Owsley, Wm. Terrill, Peter Sheerman, William Hooper, Matrom Elmore, Henry Carter, Cornelius Dougherty, Robert Terrill, Richd. Wooldrige, Jesse Ellis, Elisha Roberts, John Edwards, James Sleet, Thos. Arnold Sillr Allen, Jonathan Taylor, Jesse Davis. (Service of this Lincoln Co, KY militia was from 22 Oct 1782 to 25 Nov 1782) Where would I find more information on this? ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Sandi Gorin 205 Clements Avenue, Glasgow, KY 42141-3409 (502) 651-9114 or [email protected] Home page: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Gorin/index.html Barren Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/index.html Metcalfe Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/Metcalfe.html Monroe Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/Monroe.html KYBIOGRAPHIES: [email protected] SUB KYBIOGRAPHIES KYRESEARCH: [email protected] SUB KYRESEARCH ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ========================================================================= From: kathleen nichols <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Virginia Reserves qualifiy for Rev. War? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 13:36:08 -0600 (CST) Hi everyone: I understand I am SUPPOSED to send a query to the list. Right? I have lurked in the background reading and love it. My husband has a 3rd great grandfather, Nathan Nichols b. 1748 "eastern shores of Va." who served three months of active duty Nov 4, 1777 to Feb 13, 1778 which would not qualify him for a land grant. But......he did serve in the Va. Reserves and was called to serve in the last year of the Revolution, preceding Cornwallis' surrender at Yorktown. There is a James and RI do not know who Nathan's parents are, and have been searching in Va. for past year and half hoping by searching the counties I could find parents. Nathan known to have had one brother and two sisters. Father was supposed to have been a Baptist minister. When Nathan's mother died (when he was young) his father remarried, and Nathan left home. (eastern shores of Va.) traveled up to near Winchester Va. Owned alot of land and was a shoemaker. Anyone out there in our American Revolution reading area who could help me to locate records regarding Am. REv. that might steer me in the direction of finding Nathan's parents/siblings, I would appreciate hearing from you. thanks. I am going to love reading more about everyone's ancestors, it's already wonderful.!!!!! kathleen Nichols in Okla. City Ok. ========================================================================= From: kathleen nichols <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: War of 1812 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:09:22 -0600 (CST) My husband's 2nd great grandfather, Philip Nichols b. 12 July 1785 in Frederick County Va. was in the War of 1812. In accordance with the National Archives files: Veteran: Philip Nichols grade: Pvt. 1812. Service. Capt Robert Haines Col Ohio Mil. Act of 3 March 1855 Warrant No 6229-160-55 P.J. Donham New Richmond Ohio. Philip was aged 20 years, a resident of the county of Clermont Ohio. Philip was a private in the company commanded by Robert Haines in the Regiment of Ohio Militia , in the war with Great Brittain in 1812 that he volunteered at Clermont County on or about the 21st day of July 1813 for the term of six months and continued in actual service in said war for the term of 16 days and was honorably discharged at upper Sandusky on the 13th day of August 1813 as will appear by the muster rolls of said company. Philip appears in the "Roll of Capt. Robert Haines' Mounted Company also War of 1812. I have other names listed in other companies, IF anyone wants I can e mail these names to you. They are from the Roster of Ohio Soldiers in the War of 1812. ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: DAR Patriot Index Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:03:49 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 10:26:10 EST, [email protected] (Nancy Whitman) writes: << Next question - The DAR Patriot Index - is a list of men who fought in the American Revolution; >> Not exactly - The Patriot Index lists men and women who aided the cause of American independence. They did NOT have to be soldiers. They could have furnished supplies or signed an Oath of Allegiance or many other things. This book does not contain all the ancesters with Revolutionary service, only the ones that a DAR member has used to join. There are many other people that no one has ever joined on, and more are being proved everyday. Phyllis ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: *I'm* reading this list! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:23:53 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 12:29:03 EST, [email protected] writes: << For information about my genealogy research (and pictures of my kids! <BWG>) check out my webpage at http://www.intercall.com/~jmarshal/ >> I've been giving this webpage regular traffic. Such fun!!! and SO clever!!! Huggs....MM ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: War of 1812 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:23:56 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-25 15:37:43 EST, [email protected] (kathleen nichols) writes: << I have other names listed in other companies, IF anyone wants I can e mail these names to you. They are from the Roster of Ohio Soldiers in the War of 1812. >> Clermont Co., OH is a strong area for my Stoner, Metzger, Salter, Frazier, Waterfield lines. If you think there's anything for me there, I'd love to have a copy. Thanks. ========================================================================= From: Lois Johnsten <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: re battle reports Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:33:09 -0600 I cannot tell all of you how much I have enjoyed reading the battle = reports. It makes everything so much more interesting. Thank you. = Lois in Nebraska ========================================================================= From: Penny Dennis Holmes <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Adam Skains/Skeins Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 15:52:51 -0600 I have an ancestor that was at the Battle of Cowpens, ADAM SKAINS and his two brothers were supposedly at that Battle--brother John fell mortally wounded. Adam Skains b. abt 1753 in SC and d. dec 1845. He was marr to Nancy Turner (maybe Charner). Adams Rev War Pension # S 11 404. He moved to Ala in early 1820's That is all I know. Penny Dennis Holmes ========================================================================= From: Grover Pope <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Salisbury Battalion, Somerset Co. Md. Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:51:01 -0500 (EST) Seeking information on the Salisbury Battalion, Somerset County, Maryland during the American Rev. War. In the Maryland Genealogical Bulletin and Revolutionary War Journal, published by Robert F. Hayes Jr. , Janruary, 1934 Vol.-5, No-1, page-1, there is an article on the Somerset County, Maryland Militia,Rev. War, Salisbury Battalion. The names of all men in the battalion are listed. John Span Conway, Capt John McClester, 1st Lieut. John Evans, 2nd Lieut. William Stewart, Ensign Four Sargents Three Corporals There are about sixty privates listed, one of the privates, Joshua Ashmore abt age 16 at the time , was my 3rd great grand father. I have tried the National, Maryland and the Tennessee Archives, also the Maryland Genealogical Society. No one seems to have ever heard of this battalion. Could someone please help find this lost group of men. Thanks, Grover Pope Dyersburg, Tn. ========================================================================= From: Beatrice "Dede" D MacDonald<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: Re: Thanks- let's talk Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:02:57 EST Hi, I sure like your enthusiasm!!! I've been pretty bogged down and had forgotten I even subscribed to this list! One of my ancestors who fought in the Revolution was Richard Pearis/Parris and his brothers. Unfortunately, Richard was a Loyalist. His brother George a Patriot. Richard Pearis' nephew, Robert Alexander Pearis, fought for the Americans at Kings Mountain. Richard's brother Robert died after being jailed in Charleston for suspected Tory sympathies. These Pearis/Parris' have a very rich and exiting history and I am trying to gather all the information I can about them. I would be grateful for any information sent to me about these men. Thank you, Dede Aday MacDonald [email protected] Greenville Co., SC USGenWeb Project: http://lennon.pub.csufresno.edu/~bm063 On Sun, 24 Nov 1996 19:50:44 -0600 mary <[email protected]> writes: >WOW ! Talk about a response. About 25 nice replies about the list >working and also the Welcome message arrived. Thank you nice people. >Guess >I'm just impatient. There is so much to talk about here. I think >about 6 >of my ancestors did some service in the American Revolution. >I am very interested in finding more about my grandpa that was >named STEPHEN JACKSON . He lived in Anson Co. North Carolina and >I guess since the border was in dispute part of the time he thought >he was living in South Carolina. >I found him in the book "South Carolina Roster" #R5522 on page 491. >He served as a Captain after a Capt. Joseph Griffin was disabled. and >was known as "Killing Stephen Jackson" He was married to a >NANCY COOK. I think he fought at the battle of Cowpins. It also >mentions a >General Gates. >Since there seems to be more than 25 of us on this list --- lets start >making it sing Mary Russell [email protected] > >I have a book about the battle of Kings mountain with a roster. >and a book on Battles of the Rev War by W.J. Wood. If I can help >anyone let me know. MR > > ========================================================================= From: Jennifer Day <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Who is running this list?? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 14:26:43 -0600 I subscribed to this list, and never got one of those welcome messages. Does anyone know why? I would like to set the list to Digest mode, but don't know if that is available. Can anybody help? Jen ========================================================================= From: Darwina Michael<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 96 17:48:58 EST Hi all: If anyone is researching Andrew Smith of Hopewell, Hunterdon Co., NJ, b 1753, I have his pension file from the National Archives. Willing to share this and any other information. Darwina Michael ***MLS Online-An Internet BBS. (www.mlsonline.com) Focus: Family, Business & Education. Voice Support: 716-454-5577 ========================================================================= From: kathleen nichols <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Rev. War Vet from Clermont Co OHIO Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:51:46 -0600 (CST) Edward MORIN entered service in year 1775, under Col John Skinker and Capt Jos. Rogers of the Virginia Militia and continued in the service of the U.S. for 6 years as a Va. volunteer Militia ....two years under Col Skinker and Capt Rogers and four years under Col John Washington and Capt.Tow-- Dade (or Dods?). He resided in King George County at the time when he first volunteered just before the close of the term of service he removed to Fauquier Co. in Va. under Col Pickett and Capt Sharp. He served Was in skirmish at the mouth of Machodack Creek on the Potomac river. He was engaged in firing on the Barges of the British when they attempted to land. He belonged to the Va. Militia then commonly called "Minute Men". excerpts taken from Clermont Co. Ohio Revolutionary War Veterans Vol III c. 1991 EDWARD MORIN fought under the illustrious Light Horse Harry Lee in the great struggles for independence. He was born and lived in Culpepper county Va., and was four years in the Rev. contest. In 1797 this old veteran of 1776 came to the Northwest Territory with his large family, his son, Rodham Morin, having preceded him the previous year, settled on the John Dandridge survey, near Col. Isaac Ferguson's settlement. Rodham Morin had served in General Anthony Wayne's campaign against the Indians in 179 ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: GILBERT maybe war of 1812 Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:01:37 PST Can anyone help me with this name of a friends relative not sure where he was from or if he was even in the war of 1812 but from the dates its possible. Any help would be great the name was in her family bible.I can be reached at [email protected] Major Thomas Gilbert born 1770 died 1848 Thank you Melanie ========================================================================= From: Jan Wattles <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Just Great! Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:34:19 -0700 I thoroughly enjoy the stories that have been received, regarding the Revolution. Much anticipation for those waiting for the first issue. Great addition to the rest of the lists you share with us. I don't need a 'welcome letter.' Just keep those experiences comin'. Good Luck, Jan Wattles ========================================================================= From: Flo Dickey <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Nail/Neal RWS Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 16:39:29 -0800 [email protected] wrote: > > I looked up your Neal/Neale/Nail line in my book, "Neals of Bedford Co., VA" > and found nothing. This is one of my lines. > > Julian - there is nothing in DAR PI > > John - I'd need date of birth/death and/or wife's name to be able to nail him > down. Too many listed to take on such general information. I'm sorry, but I > don't have time to list them all. > > MM Thanks for the help. John Neal or NAIL was b 1760, but his son A.G. said he thought his father was older. John Neal died 1840 in MS. John also had a sister, Elizabeth Easter, b. VA and several years younger. I have no idea what is wife's or wives name were. He had a daughter, Elizabeth and other sons; Thomas, Jesse, Noel. I wish I could provide more information, but this is all I have. Thanks again, Flo -- mailto:[email protected] ========================================================================= From: Nancy Whitman <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: To anyone and everyone who just joined - Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:53:13 -0500 (which includes ME!) Welcome to the Revolution!!! There doesn't seem to be anyone who sponsored the list, so it comes under Larry's domaine (who runs rmgage and hundred of lists listed under that address...). I think - in order to get this on digest - you might try.... SUB DIGEST AMERICAN-REVOLUTION in the body of the message. and send it to [email protected] Anyone have a better idea for Jennifer? It could be that Larry is just swampted, he mentioned on Rmgate Herald he was going to take abit of vacation and that could have happened just as this group started...so-- no long file telling us what to do and what not to do. It could be the first rmgate group for some, so they wouldn't have the pattern of other groups to follow. Anyway, with and without proper formal greetings from the mysterious powers of Rmgate.... I greet each and everyone of you, hope we all have an enjoyable time and resiste flaming anything at all! Some of real scholars, some are not, some spell excellently, some do not, but all are interested in the American Revolution and that's what matters!!! It should be interesting, informative and fun! If anyone else comes in new and wants to be greeted, how about just dropping them a personal note of "greetings" or "hello!, Welcome to the American Revolution"..... . Nancy ------------------------------------------------------------ Nancy Whitman [email protected] ========================================================================= From: CS 191<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: Isaac MARVIN d. 1777/8 Long Island, NY Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:14:38 -0500 George Franklin Marvin and William T. R. Marvin's book Descendants of Reinold and Matthew Marvin of Hartford, Ct.,... says that Isaac Marvin (b. Norwalk, Connecticut, 1744/5) "according to family tradition" died on Long Island, New York, in 1777 or 1778 "while serving in the Revolutionary army." Does anyone have any advice on where to look to try to determine if he served? Frances Van Scoy 782 Meadowbrook Road Morgantown, WV 26505 [email protected] [email protected] ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Thanks- let's talk Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 20:26:19 -0500 Hi, all. I'm here to tell you there are LOTS of us on this list. I really want to help, but am afraid the lookup requests have already become overwhelming. My daughter had a kidney transplant Oct. 4 and has been convalescing in my home ever since. (she lives 360 miles away). Her husband and 2 kids come in every other week or so for several days and my load REALLY gets heavy then. Plus, I've been having to get up every morning at 5 a.m. to have her in to the transplant center in Dallas by 7. So, I'll try to get to everyone, but must apologize for the fact I can't handle this as fast as it's coming in. I stayed up with it last night and worked again this morning; have been inputing answers 8+ hours, with some still waiting. Perhaps someone else has the DAR Index and can also help out. Mary ========================================================================= From: Jerry Offholter <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: I forgot to ask what is a Matross Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 17:44:25 -0800 I POSTED THE FOLLOWING SOME DAYS BACK=20 My GGGG-Granddaddy Jesse Dillon was a Bombardier I know it has something = to do do with Artillery =B7 Jesse Dillon Bombardier, December 20 1776, in Company 9; Val= ley Forge; June 3 1778. Awarded bounty lands. Dillon, Jesse served with Col. Chas. Harrison=92s Virginia & Maryland Reg= iment of Artillery as it stood from November 30, 1776 to April, 1782. XX WELL I FORGOT TO ASK IT SHOWED THE RANK OF MATROSS IN ARTILLERY XX I H= AVE ALREADY BEEN ADVISED WHAT A=20 ''BOMBARDIER'' IS XX TKU --=20 Jerry Offholter [email protected] Half Moon Bay, CA. Genealogy Researching for: DILLON, Jesse; wife Mary Elizabeth Blankenship (also could be just only E= lizabeth) DILLON, Asa; wife Elizabeth Greer (Parents Aquilla Greer Jr. & Elizabeth = Bandy) DILLON, Quincy Perry m'd twice 1st Catherine McGhee 2nd Jennie Chambers DILLON, James W.; wife Margaret Matilda Skaggs Also will "Share Equal Time With" Bouseman/Brickhouse/Brodie/Brooks/Byrd/ Byrn/Chambers/Farley/Ferguson/Fisher/Garrett/ Harper/HaworthHolland/Housman/Hutts/Johnson/ Lemmons/McGhee/McMahan/Metts/Pasley/Perdue/ Plybon/PowellRobinson/SaundersSink/Skaggs/ Smith/Spradling/Stewart/Tyree/Webster/Williams/Wilson ========================================================================= From: mary <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: RE: To anyone and everyone who just joined - Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 19:38:15 -0600 I think - in order to get this on digest - you might try.... SUB DIGEST AMERICAN-REVOLUTION in the body of the message. and send it to [email protected] I did get the welcome letter but It is beginning to sound like I am the only one who did. It said------------- * DIGESTS ARE CURRENTLY DISABLED AND PROBABLY BEING REVISED. * It said that the list person is [email protected] It did not give Oldgrinds name. WHERE ARE YOU, DEAR PERSON, ??? We are having fun here but need a fearless leader<BWG> Mary Russell [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Joe Garcia <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: IVES Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 18:03:24 -0800 Hello All; Just wanted to add my 5th Great-Grandfather to the list...Amasa IVES....He served in Company I commanded by Capt. PARKER of Reg ? commander Col. SYMOND Mass. Line....his brothers, Stephen, and David also served Have a Great Day Joe ========================================================================= From: Joan Swanson <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Thomas Sumter, Major General Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 03:35:32 +0000 I posted this article on N/C-S/C and Deep South Roots about a month ago. It seems appropiate to post it to the American Revolution List. I hope you enjoy it. Joan excerpt from "Statistics of the State of Georgia", by George White. Printed in 1849, Savannah, W. Thorne Williams. Name-The following account of Major General Thomas Sumter, is abridged from a memoir written by William Gilmore Sims, Esq.: Thomas Sumter, after whom this division of the State was named, was born in Virinia, in the year 1734. When a boy, he went as a volunteer against the French and Indians, in the "old French war." Not long after Braddock's defeat he came to South Carolina, where he was engaged in active service against the Indians. Known to be a warm friend to the principles of those who were opposed to the usurpations of Great Britain, as early as March, 1776, he was appointed by the Provisional Congress, Lieutenant Colonel of the 2d regiment of riflemen, and was engaged in watching the outbreaks of the disaffected on the frontier, and the hostile red men. After the fall of Charleston, Sumter retired to the swamps of the Santee; but he soon emerged from his hiding place, went to North Carolina to obtain recruits, and stopped at a place known as the "Gillespie Settlement." Of the Gillespie family were numerous brothers, all of whom were famous cock-fighters. They were content with the conflicts of the barn-yard, having in their possession, amongst other famous fighting birds, a blue hen of the game species, whose progeny were particularly distinguished for their martial qualities. Of one of these chickens, called Tuck, there is quite a biography. His reputation was extended far and wide, from mountain to mountain. He was never known to refuse a fight, or to lose a battle. At one time Sumter suddenly appeared at the cockpit and surprised the Gillespies at their usual occupation, and in abrupt language called upon them to leave the cockpit, and go with him, where he would teach them how to fight with men. They took him at his word. "Tuck for ever," was the cry of the Gillespies. "He is one of the Blue Hen's chickens." The sobriquet stuck to him always after; and the eagerness with which he sought his enemies on all occasions amply justified in the opinion of his followers the name of the Game Cock. In raising recruits our hero was successful, and on the 12th of July, 1780, he gave the Gillespies the amusement he had promised them, by suddenly attacking a body of Tories, and completely defeating them. After this affair Sumter had the pleasure of receiving from Governor Rutledge, a commission as a Brigadier in the service of the State, and was ordered to recover a certain portion of the country from the power of the enemy. On the 30th of July, 1780, he advanced upon the British post at Rocky Mount; but for want of artillery, he was compelled to abandon the attack. Hanging Rock next attracted the notice of Sumter. This was garrisoned by a force of 500 men; and although in the battle fought here he could not be said to have obtained a complete victory, yet it is acknowledged by the enemy, that they got the worst of the battle. About August of the same year, he surprised the British near Carey's fort. Having taken the fort; stores and troops, he commenced a retreat; but Tarlton overtook him two days after, at Fishing creek. Burdened with his baggage and his prisoners, 300 in number, his movements were necessarily slower than those of the light armed troops which Tarlton commanded. The camp of Sumter was surprised; his troops were dispersed, the prisoners recaptured, and Sumter again a fugitive. Again he made his way into North Carolina, and after raising a force, he took the field and occupied a post at the Fish Dam ford. Here he was attacked by Col. Wemyss; but so gallantly did Sumter defend his position, that the British fled, leaving their commander in the hands of the Americans. Col. Wemyss had rendered himself very obnoxious to the Americans by his cruelties. In addition to many offences of the same character, a memorandum of the houses and estates he was yet to destroy was found upon his person. This was shown to Sumter, but he, with the magnanimity becoming a hero, threw the paper into the fire, and would permit no injury to be inflicted upon the British officer. After this action, he crossed Broad river, and being joined by an additional force, he prepared to attempt the British post at Ninety-Six; but hearing of the approach of Tarlton, he changed his movements, and took up his position at the house of Blackstock, where he was attacked by the British; but a well directed fire from the Americans forced him to give up the assault. In this engagement 192 of the enemy were left on the field, of whom 92 were slain, and the rest wounded. The loss of the americans was almost nominal. General Sumter received a ball through the breast near the shoulder, which for a long time rendered him unfit for service. Congress acknowledged his services by a vote of thanks. In the early part of 1781, he again took the field, and made a rapid movement towards Fort Granby, and succeeded in destroying its magazines, and the very next day he surprised an escort convoying wagons of stores from Charleston to Camden, slew thirteen of the escort, and made sixty-six prisoners. Not long after this he was attacked by Major Fraser, near Camden; but that officer got the worst in the conflict, making off with the loss of twenty men. Receiving a letter from General Greene, requesting him to do all in his power towards breaking up the British communication, Sumter was already in the field, sweeping the county lying between the Broad, Saluda, and Wateree rivers. On the 10th of May, he took the British post, at Orangeburgh, with its garrison, consisting of 100 men, and all its stores. About this time Gen. Sumter, embroiled in a dispute with Col. Lee, sent his commission to Gen. Greene, whom he thought improperly partial to Lee. This was returned with many expressions of kindness and compliment on the part of Gen. Greene; and Sumter, cheerfully yielding his private grievances to his sense of patriotism, resumed his responsibilities; but in a short time, fatigue and wounds demanded that he should have a respite from toils, and accordingly he repaired to the mountains, for the purpose of recruiting his health; and when he was able to resume the field, the war was at an end. He survived long after the independence of his country was established. For many years he was a member of Congress, first as a Representative, and afterwards as a Senator. He lived to a mature old age, honoured to the last, and died on the 1st of June, 1832, at his residence, near Bradford Springs, South Carolina, in the ninety-eighth year of his age. ========================================================================= From: Paula Ward <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Who is running this list?? Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:31:15 -0600 At 02:26 PM 11/25/96 -0600, you wrote: >I subscribed to this list, and never got one of those welcome messages. >Does anyone know why? I would like to set the list to Digest mode, >but don't know if that is available. Can anybody help? >Jen > Hi, Jen, Just send a note to Teresa at: [email protected] and you'll receive a very nice reply. Paula *----------------------------------------------------------------------* Paula Kelley Ward [email protected] or [email protected] Trinity University, San Antonio TX PH 210/736-7432 FAX 210/736-7432 SW VA: KELLEY/KELLY, WEBSTER, PETERS, INGRAM, TURNER, SMITH, WILLIS, PAYNE, HALE, TROUP, SLEDD; KY: KELLEY/KELLY NY, Ireland: MOONEY, MULLEN/MULLIN, DURKIN, WALDRON Germany: HECKMAN, BOHN, JAECKEL, MANDLER I must have lived previous lives. I can't imagine getting this far behind in one life! *----------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= From: Lois Johnsten <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: re Welcome Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 22:26:00 -0600 I never thought I would ever receive a "Welcome to the American = Revolution". Thank you, Nancy. Several of you have talked about your = ancestor being at one battle or another. Does it count that my ancestor = left the night before the Battle of Yorktown to go home and repair his = tavern? Lois in Nebraska ========================================================================= From: Paula Ward <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Important Notice Re American Revolution Date: Mon, 25 Nov 1996 23:00:19 -0600 FYI, perhaps the following will help. And I have to say this: this is a terrific list! :D Paula >Return-Path: <[email protected]> >Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 22:14:48 -0500 >From: [email protected] >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: Important Notice Re American Revolution > >I contact Larry at [email protected] Perhaps because of the holiday >he is not answering. As soon as I hear something from him. I'll make another >announcement every thing is O.K. I'm sending you a copy of the subscription >information. Sorry for any inconvenience. > >Happy Holidays, >Teresa > *----------------------------------------------------------------------* Paula Kelley Ward [email protected] or [email protected] Trinity University, San Antonio TX PH 210/736-7432 FAX 210/736-7432 SW VA: KELLEY/KELLY, WEBSTER, PETERS, INGRAM, TURNER, SMITH, WILLIS, PAYNE, HALE, TROUP, SLEDD; KY: KELLEY/KELLY NY, Ireland: MOONEY, MULLEN/MULLIN, DURKIN, WALDRON Germany: HECKMAN, BOHN, JAECKEL, MANDLER I must have lived previous lives. I can't imagine getting this far behind in one life! *----------------------------------------------------------------------* ========================================================================= From: Jerry Sanford <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: I forgot to ask what is a Matross Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:10:36 -0500 (EST) I was told a few years ago when I was on Prodigy that a Matross was the same as the current title of Warrent Officer. I have not been able to varify this though. However, it was a valid rank/title in the Arty during the Rev War as I secured the pay records from the Nat Archives on a Matross I thought was an ancestor. I was wrong but I'm still working on my Thomas P. SANFORD. Anyone need the payroll records of Matross Thomas Sanford of the 1st VA Arty? JerrySanford ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: **IMPORTANT NOTICE TO EVERYONE**PLEASE READ Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 00:54:21 -0500 TO ALL AMERICAN-REVOLUTION SUBSCRIBERS, I want to apologize for all the problems and improper greetings from the list in general. There has been some error problems at MAISER and I have reported them to Larry at Rmgate. I hope things will be working properly soon. I will be away for the holidays and will be back in full throttle when I return. Again Sorry for any inconvenience. I like to make this list as fun and enjoyable as possible. If anyone has subscribed to this list and haven't received the welcome screen I include it at the bottom of this message. Again my apologies for any problems that have incurred on this list. My Best To You All, Teresa [email protected] P.S. This list is not in digest mode. 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If they won't let you in to the DAR on his line, I think there's a society of tavern keepers, although the proper name escapes me at the moment. janice [email protected] ---------- From: Lois Johnsten <[email protected]> To: American Revolution discussion list <[email protected]> Subject: re Welcome Date: Monday, 25 November, 1996 20:26 PM I never thought I would ever receive a "Welcome to the American Revolution". Thank you, Nancy. Several of you have talked about your ancestor being at one battle or another. Does it count that my ancestor left the night before the Battle of Yorktown to go home and repair his tavern? Lois in Nebraska ---------- ========================================================================= From: Ed Crump <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: John Crump - PRIVATE SOLDIER Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 01:02:21 -0600 To Mary Marshall and the list: I believe my ancestor, John Bushrod Crump, is the same as the "John Crump - PRIVATE SOLDIER" who was involved in the Battle of Guilford Courthouse in North Carolina, March 15, 1781. I am familiar with the battle. Gen. Green was opposed by Cornwallis, and although Cornwallis "took the day" he was so beaten that after he retreated to the coast and worked his way back to Yorktown he was surrounded and had to surrender just a few months later. About 35 years ago a distant relative, Katie MacAulay Rankin, applied for a "Supp;emental Line" through the DAR for John Crump and I believe it was approved on March 13, 1961. I believe my relatives National Number was 293918. There was also a reference to a National No. 203951. I'm not sure what these numbers mean.
the British and many fled to Canada. I had some of those and hate to admit I''ve really not gotten too involved in those parts of the family tree. I know they were acting on their personal convictions and passed a certain independence of spirit to me. However, I'm ashamed of them. I feel real guilty about that and hope one day I can overcome the feelings. I have such a sense of patriotism, it's just difficult to think of those "cowards" who ran to Canada rather than risk their lives for freedom. No criticism about anyone on here...just felt the need to voice these feelings. We all have our ancestors, regardless of where they were and how they felt in 1776. MM ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: ABNER BOONE Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 01:19:24 In a message dated 96-11-28 23:21:33 EST, [email protected] (lawrence hennessey) writes: << Looking for information on Abner Boone >> Was he a member of the George Boone line (Daniel's family)? I have several books on the Boones.... MM, descendant of Abigail Boone, daugher of William Boone & Sarah Lincoln and first cousin to Daniel Boone. ========================================================================= From: Lois Johnsten <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Hessians Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:45:37 -0600 Did anyone find anything about Hessian sources? I think I have one, = Frederick Hains/Haynes/Haines/Hens as no records appear in Westmorland = Co,PA, or anywhere else, before the Rev War. He seems to come out of = nowhere, and the family spoke German in the home until World War I. = Lois ========================================================================= From: emcraw <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Order of the Cincinnati Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 07:11:00 -0700 Hi Everyone. I am not sure of the correct name of this organization, but I believe it is an organization formed of officers in the Revolution. Does anyone have any information on it? Thanks for any input from anyone. Ellen ========================================================================= From: "Craig R. Scott" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: ABNER BOONE Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:37:24 -0500 At 09:13 PM 11/28/96 -0800, you wrote: >Looking for information on Abner Boone who served in the war of 1812. I know >nothing about the state he served from. The first place to look to document military service is in the pension file indexes of the National Archives, regardless of which war. These files document three kinds of penisons: (1) disability or invalid pensions, (2) service pensions, and (3) widow's pensions. The reason that you look here first is because the first rule of thumb when dealing with the National Archives is to establish the relationship of the individual to the federal government. In most wars (prior to the Civil War), most men are militiamen and are not paid by the federal government until they recieve their pensions. Another advantage is that ususally you know at least the first name of the wife of the soldier and if the name you are looking for is John Smith, it helps to be able to differentiate between them. One of the paradoxes of genealogy is that when you look at intestate probate you hope the wife is dead, so you will learn of the distribution, but in pension research you hope the wife lives forever, since she provides so much information in her application. In order to determine which roll of National Archives Microfilm to obtain you should consult _Military Service Records: A Select Catalog of National Archives Microfilm Publications_ ($3.50)[your library should have this]. or _The Family History Library Catalogy_ or the _AGLL Catalog_. There are Revolutionary War, War of 1812 and Old War, and a General Pension Index for the post Civil War period. There is a pension index in book form for the Revolutionary War ($47.50) and for the War of 1812 (by Virgil White) and these also should be in your local library. The second place to document service is the General Indexes for the various wars also on microfilm. Unfortunately, the John Smiths pose a problem here, since there are so many, but the proceedures are the same as above. Books by Virgil White are available for bother the RevWar and the War of 1812. Broadfoot Publishing is doing the Civil War, but it will take a while to complete. These books are probably too expensive for the family researcher, but your library should have them. Hope this helps. Craig R. Scott, CGRS [email protected] visit Willow Bend Books at http://www.mediasoft.net/ScottC comments appreciated ========================================================================= From: Roy Edmund Romans II <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: DAR/SAR Indices Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:59:31 -0800 Greetings one and all on this, the busiest shopping day of the year! I wish to request a look-up in the DAR/SAR Indices for the following persons; I am hopeful that they are, indeed, Revolutionary ancestors of mine who have already been recognized. Thomas Noblett (I believe his wife was Mary King) James Maynard (b. 1750, VA) Patrick Porter (m. Susannah Walker) James Alley (a Virginian, believed to have served the Greenbrier Militia?) Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. In Kinship, Roy E. Romans <[email protected]> http://www.kansas.net/~romans/index.html My family coat of arms ties at the back.....is that normal? ========================================================================= From: Sandi Gorin <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: BARREN CO KY REV WAR PENSIONEERS Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 11:55:27 -0500 In case someone has need of info on the above, here are the names of the Rev War soldier petitioning for pension applications here. There were more soldiers here, but these are the recorded applications. If any are your kin, I can give you a quick look up for the details of their applications: William Anderson, John Bagby, John Beavers, William Bell, John Bevis, Elisha Boone, Thomas Brown, Simeon Buford, John Burch, Philip Carter, Thomas Clayton, JOhn Cole, Lucy (Thomas) Colman, William Craig, William Depp, William Dishman, John Elmore, John Forrister, John Foster, Jacob Gibson, William Harris, Joseph Higdon, Clem Hill, John Hizer, Jonathan Hunt, Benjamin Hyde, John Kelly, Jameson Larrence, Rhodam Larrence, Joseph Lee, James Levell, Elizabeth Luckett (wife of Samuel), Benjamin Martin, William Peers, Elizabeth Pinckeley, Peter Priest, Elizabeth Preston (wife of Capt Peter Bendard), John Renfro, Nathaniel Reynolds, Francis Scott, Frederick Smith, James Spilman, JOhn Watson and Samuel Woodson. Sandi ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Sandi Gorin 205 Clements Avenue, Glasgow, KY 42141-3409 (502) 651-9114 or [email protected] Home page: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Gorin/index.html Barren Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/index.html Metcalfe Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/Metcalfe.html Monroe Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/Monroe.html KYBIOGRAPHIES: [email protected] SUB KYBIOGRAPHIES KYRESEARCH: [email protected] SUB KYRESEARCH ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ========================================================================= From: charles <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Cowpens death Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 13:48:58 -0600 (CST) I found a cryptic message in an old family bible indicated that an ancestor of mine (Henry Noland) had 6 brothers that fought in the Rev. War and one had been slain at that critical battle at Cowpens and one had died at Brandywine. No more details than that...is there any way I could find the name of the brother that died during the battle of Cowpens? Henry Noland had the following six brothers. Obed Noland/Joshua Noland/Pierce Noland/William Noland/Thomas Noland/and Philip Noland. They were from the Maryland and Virginia area. Any help would be greatly appreciated and I thank you in advance. Charles Noland/ E::Mail [email protected] ========================================================================= From: jasgrob<a href="mailto:[email protected] "><[email protected] ></a> Subject: Re: DAR Ptriot Index Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 16:44:25 -0800 [email protected] wrote: > > T-0500 > From: Roy Edmund Romans II <[email protected]> > To: "American Revolution discussion list" <[email protected]> > Subject: DAR/SAR Indices > Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 09:59:31 -0800 > Errors-to: <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > X-listname: <[email protected]> > X-Mailer: BeyondMail for Windows/SMTP 2.2 (via Mercury MTS (Bindery) v1.30) > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > Reply-To: Roy Edmund Romans II <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > > Greetings one and all on this, the busiest shopping day of the year! > > I wish to request a look-up in the DAR/SAR Indices for the following persons; I > am hopeful that they are, indeed, Revolutionary ancestors of mine who have > already been recognized. > > Thomas Noblett (I believe his wife was Mary King) Not Found > James Maynard (b. 1750, VA) James Maynard, b 1750 VA, d 10-13-1852 VA, m Chaney Smith, Pvt NC PNSR > Patrick Porter (m. Susannah Walker) Patrick Porter, b 5-1-1737 IR, d p 4-28-1798 VA, m Susannah Walker, Sol CS PS VA > James Alley (a Virginian, believed to have served the Greenbrier Militia?) James Alley - b c 1715-20 VA, d a 3-26-1799 VA, m X, PS VA > > Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. > > In Kinship, > > Roy E. Romans <[email protected]> > http://www.kansas.net/~romans/index.html > My family coat of arms ties at the back.....is that normal? -- James G. Robertson 112 Northwood Place Mabank, TX 75147-9014 ========================================================================= From: Joyce Louthan <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Battle of Cowpens Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:12:35 -0600 [email protected] wrote: > > In a message dated 96-11-24 23:45:31 EST, [email protected] writes: > > << Battle of Cowpens. Does anyone have information on this battle? (Rev.War) > Thanks, >> > > >From the book, "George Washington's War"; Leckie, Robert: New York: Harper > Collins Publishers, 1992, pp. 600-03 > > "On January 17, 1781, the two small armies collided in a place of sandy hills > where cattle wandered in open cowpens, which was thus given the name Cowpens. > > Daniel Morgan chose to fight in what looked like a trap. He held a plain > dotted with widely spaced trees in which Tarleton's superior horsemen could > easily maneuver, and he had his back to the Broad River. But the Old Wagoner > knew his men. If he secured his wings on swamps, as he said later, his > miliitia would have vanished through the bogs, and if he crossed the river, > half of them would have abandoned him. He wanted no hope of retreat, so that > his men would fight the dreaded Tarleton with the desperation of the doomed, > and he was certain that his dashing enemy would charge straight ahead, rather > than nibble at his exposed wings. > > So Morgan put about 150 picked riflemen forward in a skirmish line. About > 150 yards behind them were about three hundred mmilitia, under Andrew > Pickens, and back another 150 yards, on the crest of a hill, was Morgan's > main line of about four hundred Continentals, under John Howard. Again to > the rear, behind another hill, were about one hundred horse, under the fat > but capable William Washington, the cavalryman who had been wounded at > Trenton. > > The sharpshooters in front were not to open fire until the enemy was within > fifty yards, and then they were to aim at "the men with the epaulets." They > were to deliver two volleys, and then fall back on Pickens's militia. The > militia were then to fire only two volleys, before retiring around the > American left to the rear of the main line on the hill, there to re-form as a > reserve. Morgan promised they would be perfectlysafe. He also informed > every man of his plan, so that no one would be alarmed at the withdrawals. > > Tarleton came on. His legion cavalry rode at the sharpshooters. A scathing > fire sent fifteen riderless horses off the field, and the Tory cavalry fled, > never to be induced to reenter the battle. Now the main British line moved > forward, dragoons on either wing. Here was the crux of the battle. If the > militia showed their customary reaction to bared British steel, they would > flee. But Pickens's men stayed, firing and loading and firing again to send > two volleys into the scarlet line. then, they began running to the left as > planned, to get behind the Continentals on the hill. The militia on the > right had the farthest to go, and the British dragoons came thundering down > on them. > > Suddenly, out of the American right rear Washington's horsemen came riding. > They fell upon the astonished cragoons with whistling sabers, routing and > pursuing them, while all Pickens's men gained the rear and re-formed. > > But the inpetuous British had taken Pickens's retirement to mean the start of > the customary retreat, and they came shouting against the main line of > Howard's Continentals. Kneeling on the hill, the Americans poured a plunging > fire into the enemy. Still, the British advanced. Tarleton put his > Highlanders on his left. They stretched beyond the American right. Howard > saw that he was being outflanked. He called for his right-hand company to > face about. Then they were to wheel and form a right angle to the main line > and face about again to blunt the British flanking movement. > > But they faced about and marched to the rear, and the whole line followed > suit. > > Morgan came rushing up to Howard, shouting, "What is this retreat?" > > "A change of position to save my right flank," Howard replied. > > "Are you beaten?{" the Old Wagoner yelled, and Howard shot back scornfully: > "Do men who march like that look as though they were beaten?" Morgan nodded, > and dashed off to find Howard's men a second position between the two hills. > > Tarleton, sending victory, pursued. His men broke ranks and rushed forward. > William Washington, whose pursuit of the dragoons had carried him ahead of > the American line, saw the British confusion. He sent word to Morgan: > "They're coming on like a mob. Give them one fire, and I'll charge them." > Morgan gave the order to the Continentals; they faced about and blazed away > from the hip. the scarlet line crumpled, and Howard cried: "Give them the > bayonet!" So it was that an American cheer and American blades went forward, > just as Washington's cavalry burst upon the enemy flank and rear like a > tornado. After that charge, Pickens's re-formed militia struck the > Highlanders down, and the Battle of Cowpens was over, but for an individual > and inconclusive mounted skirmish between Tarleton and Washington. > > Banastre Tarleton himself rode off, his brilliant plumed helmet drooping in a > defeat that was nearly total: nine-tenths of his force had been killed or > captured, against only twelve Americans killed and sixty wounded. > > Cowpens was the American Cannae, it was the glittering small gem of the > Revolution, and it was brought off by an American backwoodsman, who, like the > great Hannibal himself, was merely adapting himself to men and terrain. > Moreover, Cowpens made the way of the ware Nathanael Greene easier as he > waged his war of attrition against Cornwallis." --------------------------------------------------------------------- The U.S. Navy has named a ship after the Battle of Cowpens. It is one of the newest AEGIS Guided Missile Cruisers, USS COWPENS (CG 63). ========================================================================= From: emcraw <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: (no subject) Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 18:22:13 -0700 SET NOMAIL AMERICAN-REVOLUTION ========================================================================= From: "Sean B. Rork" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: MICHAEL RORK. Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:58:48 -0800 I have a possible relative by the name of Michael Rork who served in the Revolutionary War. See attachments. In the abstract provided a witness by the name of John Rork is listed. My Great, Great, Great, Great grandfather John Rork was born in 1787 in New Jersey. He is listed in the 1840 and 1850 Indiana Census but not after that. He was 63 in 1850. He would have been 58 in 1845 when the abstract reports of a witness for Michael Rork. Michael was born 29 Sep 1746 in Bucks Co. PA. He died 9 Jan 1839. I got the Series M804 Roll #2083 from the National Archives but like Mr. White I could not make some pages out. Can you tell me of any printed copies I might be able to get copies from? I need to know if Michael is related or not. I do not know John's parents names or any childrens names but my Great, Great, Great grandfather Bower Rork born 1823 in Ohio. Please let me know. Sean Rork Topeka, KS [email protected] *** District of Columbia *** S Pension Roll S T of 1835 T R R O Report From O N The Secretary of War N G In Relation to the Pension Establishment G of the United States P 1835 P O O S Baltimore S S Genealogical Publishing Company S I 1968 I B B I The I L Pension Roll L I of 1835 I T T Y In Four Volumes Y *** *** Volume III The Southern States Alabama Georgia North Carolina Arkansas Kentucky South Carolina D. C. Louisiana Tennessee Florida Maryland Virginia Mississippi Baltimore Genealogical Publishing Company 1968 Ref. 973.34 U.S. Statement, &c. of Hawkins county-Continued. [514] - Senate Document 23rd Congress, 1st session Washington, 1835, Tennessee Pension Roll, Pg. 68 Name. Rank. Annual Sums re- Description When placed allow- ceived. Of Service. on the pen- ance. sion roll. Michael Rork Private 26 66 79 98 Virginia militia July 6, 1833 Commencement Ages. of pension. Mar. 4, 1831 89 (S T R O N G P O S S I B I L I T Y) Genealogical Abstracts Of Revolutionary War Pension Files Volume III: N - Z Abstracted by Virgil D. White National Historical Pub. co., 1992, Waynesboro, Tennessee Ref. 929.3 WHI 4 Vols Pg. 2949 (Possibility) RORK, Michael, Letty, VA Line, W5720, sol m Letty (--) in 1766, sol appl 3 Dec 1832 Hawkins Co TN aged 87, sol enl in Rockingham Co VA & referred to a bro serving part of 1 tour for him, sol moved from VA to Hawkins Co TN in 1792, sol was b 29 Sep 1746 in Bucks Co PA, sol d 9 Jan 1839, wid appl 13 Feb 1840 Hawkins Co TN, a John Rork was a witness in 1845, a Wilson Rork aged 68 made aff'dt in Nov 1844 in Hawkins Co TN but aff'dt too dim to read but it appeared wid had d 26 Aug 1844 leaving several children but the only names I could make out were; Sally, Judith, Polly, see Nat'l Archives Series M804 roll #2083 (pages 0368 - 0413) for a copy of the entire file, there is considerable data concerning the surviving children & their spouses but it was just too dim to read on this microcopy. (STRONG POSSIBILITY - SEE D.C. PENSION ROLL ABOVE) ................................................................. Genealogical Abstracts Of Revolutionary War Pension Files Volume IV: Index Abstracted by Virgil D. White National Historical Pub. co., 1992, Waynesboro, Tennessee Ref. 929.3 WHI 4 Vols Pg. 4919 RORK, John, 2949 Judith, 2949 Letty, 2949 Letty (--), 2949 Michael, 2949 Polly, 2949 Sally, 2949 Wilson, 2949 (SEE ABOVE ABSTRACT - Pg. 2949) ========================================================================= From: David Roberts <a href="mailto:"[email protected]"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net"><"[email protected]"@postoffice.worldnet.att.net></a> Subject: DAR Indices Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996 20:05:22 -0700 May I please request a look-up in the DAR/SAR Indices for the following person: Michael Crose born 1765, died 1819, married Mary Ross born 1769. I believe he was from Culpepper, VA. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Dawn Roberts [email protected] ========================================================================= From: Sandi Gorin <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: MORE REV WAR PENSION APPLICATIONS IN KY Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 08:54:58 -0500 Had a tremendous response to the posting of Barren Co KY pension applications. I have varied data on the following (some very detailed ... some scanty): Allen Co KY: John Durham, John & Nancy Gatewood, John Gibson, Richard & Rachel Harrison, Michael Hatler, George Heeter, Wilson Moore, James McElroy, Stephen & Dicey Merritt, Hugh Morrison, Joseph Sears, George Stovall, Daniel Pitchford, John Richie, Walter & Ossie Tiffany, Jarrett & Elizabeth Wright, John Weaver, James & Nancy Williamson, Elisha and Fanny Warden, Jacob Dry. Hart Co KY: John Bomar Sr, Joshua Crump, John & Nancy Defevers, John Edgar Sr, Jeremiah D & Louisa F Harbour, John & Margaret Humphrey, James V Logsdon, John Patterson, Nathaniel Roundtree, John & Mary Row, Joseph Timberlake, Richard Whitman, John Wright Sr, William Cann, Jeremiah Dawson, John Reece. Cumberland Co: Benjamin Taylor, Richard Wade, William Whitaker, George Richardson, Samuel SMith, William Roe/Rowe, Joseph Sewell, John Self, John Scott, Charles Thurman, Matthew Amxy Sr, John Baker, William Baker, Francis Barret, Benjamin Brumell, William Burchett, William Cary, Lawrence Conner, John & Lucy B Chapman Sr, John Creasy, John & Eleanor Miller, William Cheatham, Shadrach Claywell, Robert Crockett, Elam Godfrey, William Ferguson, Martin Gryder, John Gibson, William Goodson, Joseph Jewell, George King, John Monroe, Morgan Morgan, James MacCough/Mac Conn, Solomon Prewitt, Francis Pierce, James Radford, James Williams, Thomas Williams, Isaac McBee, Samuel Smith, Hardin Williams, Joseph Wright, Isham & Elizabeth Burks and Matthew Amyx. Monroe Co: Tom Brown, Thomas Bartley, Matthew Kidwell, Jacob Goodman, Joseph Kingary, John Giles, Ephraim Dicken, James Campbell, Solomon Dickerson, Fielding W Curtis, Pleasant Haley, James Welch, Samuel Shipley, Fleming Smith, John Morehead, Thomas White. More to follow in next msg. I will do quick lookups on any of these names. Sandi ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Sandi Gorin 205 Clements Avenue, Glasgow, KY 42141-3409 (502) 651-9114 or [email protected] Home page: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Gorin/index.html Barren Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/index.html Metcalfe Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/Metcalfe.html Monroe Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/Monroe.html KYBIOGRAPHIES: [email protected] SUB KYBIOGRAPHIES KYRESEARCH: [email protected] SUB KYRESEARCH ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ========================================================================= From: Sandi Gorin <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: MORE REV WAR PENSION APPLICATIONS IN KY Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 09:03:05 -0500 Adair Co: Capt William Casey, Levi Conover, Jacob Cooper, John Goode, John Hamilton, William Hancock, Zachariah Holloday, William Hurt, Jeremiah Ingram, James Irvine, Charles Jones, William McKinney, Charles Moore, James Smith, John Ross, John Smith, William Rogers (no data), William Janes (no data), Matthew McGlasson (no data), Joseph Miller (no data), Thomas Brannon (no data), Charles Butterworth (same), Thomas White (same), John Shirley (same), John Polly (same), Joshua Atkinson (same), Robert Bushley (same), Solomon Royse (same), W H Price (same), Thomas Cochran (same), Archibald Skaggs (same), John Tupman (same), Isaac Staples, Daniel Trabue, William Young, James R & Dorcas Alexander, John Polly. NOTE: The ones with no data were cited but no information was shown. Green Co: Elias Barbee, William Barnet, Windle & Barbara Bright, Thomas Berry, Andrew Barnet, James Cowherd, Lawrence Campbell, Andrew & Sarah Chadoin, James P Carlile, Jonathan & Elizabeth Cowherd, Peter D DeSpain, John & Mary (Polly) Dicken, John & Catherine Emerson, Sherrod Griffin, Thomas & Catherine L Gaines, John Greenwell, Henry Hatacher, Thomas & Sarah Harding, Joshua Lee, William & Drusilla Lee, Moses Meers, Samuel McCorkle, Jesse Morris, John Miles, Larking Minor, Thomas Parsons, Joshua Phipps, William H Price, Jesse Puryear, John Riley, Randolph Rice, Henry Shofner, James Sherrill, Meredith Lambert, Joshua Short, William Walker & Mary Steerman, Richard Piercall, John & Elizabth Smith, THomas Smith, John Shoun, William & Polly Skaggs, William Simpson, John & Deborah Thurman, John S Sublett, William Tapscott, John S Taylor & Sarah Roberts, Joseph Timberlake, Thomas & Mary Waright, George & Charlotte Woodard, Hugh Warren, David Watson, William Graham, Adam Mitchell, Samuel Durham. Russell Co: Abel Blankenship, John Cape, James Conn, Jordan George, Ansel Goodman, Thomas Graves, John Hall, James Haynes, James Johns, Henry Law, Ledford Payne, William Perryman and Matthew Robertson. These are ALL that I have - I do not have any for any other county in KY. Can I help? Sandi ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> Sandi Gorin 205 Clements Avenue, Glasgow, KY 42141-3409 (502) 651-9114 or [email protected] Home page: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Gorin/index.html Barren Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/index.html Metcalfe Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/Metcalfe.html Monroe Co: http://www.angelfire.com/pg1/Barren/Monroe.html KYBIOGRAPHIES: [email protected] SUB KYBIOGRAPHIES KYRESEARCH: [email protected] SUB KYRESEARCH ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ><> ========================================================================= From: Margaret Sessions <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: (no subject) Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 10:18:28 -0800 set no mail ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Order of the Cincinnati Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 11:17:40 -0500 There is a Daughters of the Cincinnati, 122 East 58th St. NY, NY 10022. It is for women descendants of officers of Washington's Continental Army. There is also Society of the Cincinnati, 2112 Massachusetts Ave., Washington, DC 20008. It says in my little book "One male descendant (determined by English law of Primogeniture) of officers commissioned in the continental Army or Navy during the American Revolution." Better write to them for a clarification. Good luck, Phyllis ========================================================================= From: <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Re: Order of the Cincinnati Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 14:04:57 -0500 In a message dated 96-11-30 11:19:32 EST, [email protected] writes: << women descendants of officers of Washington's Continental Army. >> Does anyone know where you can find a list of Washington's aides? ========================================================================= From: "Shirley C. Farone" <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Date: Sun, 1 Dec 1996 00:08:01 GMT unsub ========================================================================= From: Paula Barker <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> Subject: Nathaniel Welch/Welsh Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996 22:23:10 -0800 I know that my family was quite active in the Revoution. The heirs of Nathl. Welsh are allowed land bounty for his services as Capt. in the State line from July 4, 1776 to the end of the war. Uriel Mallory Sr. was also in the war as well as Caves, Terrills, Farmers etc. I have never considered DAR until recently. I do not even know if there is a Chapter nearby. I know my tree quite well from here. I do not know how much has already been proven and how much I would have to prove from there. Nathaniel Welch=Elizabeth Terrill had da. Malinda Welch/Welsh Uriel Mallory=Sarah Street had son Uriel Mallory Uriel Mallory=Malinda Welch had da. Julia Mallory Julia Mallory= (1st)?Clark Julia Mallory=(2nd) Samuel Hutchison Faulkner had son Thomas G.Faulkner Thomas G. Faulkner=Ella Hicks had son Samuel Faulkner Samuel Faulkner=Sonoma Farmer had son Wayne Faulkner Wayne Faulkner=Gloria Summa had da. Paula Faulkner (me) ========================= Julia Mallory is quite well documented as being the da. of Uriel Mallory and Malinda Welch. I have copy of marriage certificate for her marriage to Samuel Hutchison Faulkner. I do not have any certificates on Thomas G. but he was known to my father and his sisters as their grandfather. I have the marriage certificate of Samuel Faulkner to Sonoma Pearl Farmer. And I of course have birth and marriage certificates for my father Wayne Faulkner. How close am I to being there?? -- Paula in Texas Searching: FAULKNER, HICKS, FARMER, COKER, WILLIAMS, MARTIN, SUMMA (SUMMY), MALLORY, CAVE, WELCH, TERRELL, JAMESON, PRATT, CRABTREE, BARKER, BROWN, TITSWORTH, DOWNING, CAMPBELL, WEIR ========================================================================= =============================================================== =========================================================================
James Morrison, b 1745 d 2-11-1810 m Charlotte Howell Pvt PA Joseph Morrison, b 1733 d 10-14-1817 m Hannah Montgomery Sol PA Both of these ancestors of mine, Joseph being my gggg grandfather as well as two more of their brothers Ephraim and Alexander appear on a list of Associators and Militia in the PA Archives Fifth Series, Vol 5, p 525-26. This is the London Brittain Company under Capt Samuel Evans. These people lived in the SE corner of PA (New London Twp.) Chester Co. Does anyone know anything about this particular Militia Company? I would greatly appreciate any info available Jim Morrison ========================================================================= From: Don Parriott <a href="mailto:[email protected]"><[email protected]></a> To: "American Revolution discussion list" <[email protected]> Subject: Question for the Listowner Date: Thu, 3 Apr 97 20:25:01 Errors-to: <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] X-listname: <[email protected]> X-MAILER: Chameleon V0.05, TCP/IP for Windows, NetManage Inc. (via Mercury MTS (Bindery) v1.31) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I recently posted a note to these lists outlining the surnames I am researching, with a reference to my home page where further information was to be found. I received a rather unfriendly message from a Mr. Helm claiming that I was violating terms of the lists, etc. He did not seem to be the list owner of any of them, at least he didn't say he was. Since he is the only one who complained, I am asking the owners of these lists if I did in fact violate your list! If so, PLEASE tell me (politely) and I won't do it again! I am only interested in sharing my genealogical research with anyone interested. Thank you. -- Don Parriott E-mail: [email protected] Visit my WWW home page at http://home.ptd.net/~parrdon For the GENEALOGY Section of my home page go straight to: http://home.ptd.net/~parrdon/genealog.htm -- ========================================================================= ========================================================================= =========================================================================
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