Hello, all you cousins out there! Thanks to all of you for the start and the marvelous information. Now that I've got my bearings, I have some info. that may be of some interest. I am descended from Conrad, through his son John and second wife, Mary Magdelena Echenroth, and then their daughter, Sabina. In the Allwein-Arnold book, on page 24, Sabina is listed as Savilla. Her name, however, was indeed Sabina. Sabina was born 16 May 1833 in Elizabethtown, baptized at St. Peter Catholic Church, Elizabethtown, PA , July 1833, and died 28 Dec 1915. She is buried in St. Joseph Catholic Church Cemetery in Lancaster. PA. She married Philip Christian Hahn on 12 July 1852 at St. Joseph Church, with witnesses, Adam Singer and William Siefert (I believe I have seen the surname "Siefert" out there since joining you folks). Philip C. Hahn was born in Kriftel, Germany on 7 April 1826, emigrated to the US in 1848 and died 14 Jan 1894. He is also buried in St. Joseph Cemetery. (I would love to find out how they came to meet). I have the info. on the children of Sabina and Philip if anyone is interested. A few weeks ago I was visiting for a weekend in PA and took a trip to Lebanon. I "kidnapped" my Mom and took her to see Conrad and Catherine's house on Short Road. I hadn't told her why I wanted to go there, so she was "adequately" surprised (not as thrilled as I would have thought, but…) when I pulled into the driveway and "introduced" her to her great (X3) grandparents' house. I did speak very briefly with a young woman who answered the door, just so she didn't think we were casing the joint. Unfortunately, it was teeming rain, so we did not have the opportunity to look around…for sure next time! The house really looks good. The plants in the front of the house have really grown since the picture on the web site was taken. The barn looks pretty good, too. Maybe one of us will win the lottery and buy it!!!!!! J