I don't know how to describe this, so be patient <g>. If you look at the other 'daughter' on the page, you can see that the writer carried the cross of the 'T' over quite a bit, made it long. Looking at the first entry below Clarence, you can see that cross line. It's not noticeable with Josephine's entry because there's so much ink there. I'm not even going near what the enumerator put for the father's birth place <vbg> - although, looking at the 1860 census, he appears to be living in Cross Creek, Washington County, PA, with his parents (birth year is the same, and the name of the mother is the same as the name of one of his daughters - Accius): Year: 1900; Census Place: Reynoldson, Gates, North Carolina; Roll: T623 1196; Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 47 Washington County, PA is on the border, then you have a sliver of West Virginia, then you reach Jefferson County, OH. On the 1880 census, some of the children are shown as being born in OH, and some are shown as being born in West Virginia. Looking at the 1880 census for this family, they had an older daughter named Josephine, but the name on the 1900 census still looks like Josephine to me as well. Maybe the older daughter died and they named the newborn after her? Jacob seems to have died between 1900 and 1910 - Margaret is the head of household in the 1910 Federal Census. Cathy singhals wrote: > Could I persuade either of you that Jacob's bp is Bala Cynwd, in PA > (creatively misspelt phoneticly?). Mary's is Pennsylvania and the rest > seem to be Ohio. > > But, ummmmmmmmmmm, Cleveland says "son" and everyone after him looks to > me like "boarder" not "daughter" Note absence of a descendor before the > ascendor. See line 74 vs line 78? > > Cheryl

Cathy you are wonderful. You will see why when you read my response to Cheryl. I was going to try and find the family on the 1870 and 1860 census. Your 1860 find matches the 1870 information found by my sister (before internet). So that should make it that much easier for me to locate both years. HQ 1850 Census search is limited to page and roll. So I will have to see if any one can find a citation for that year (if any). Any takers <VBG>. I will have to look at the North Carolina thing. But I have Accious Elizabeth Starr DOB February 11, 1862 marrying Patterson Ayers March 24, 1884. She dies in Yorkville, Jefferson, Ohio, USA February 17, 1933. All her 8 children are listed as being from ?, Jefferson, Ohio, USA or Yorkville, Jefferson, Ohio, USA per other researchers. It is possible that some family members moved. I think many where coal miners. Moved to where the jobs were? I do know that several stayed in the Jefferson, Ohio area, as other researchers found some Census information for 1910 and 1920. I need to verify those after the holidays. Thanks for all the help and SKS here at alt.genealogy Drive safe this New Years. "Remember stay off the roads. It's amateur night" Marilyn Jean Smith - Kenefick - Ulselton February 06, 1939 - December 21, 2006 Mike in Ohio Huntersglenn wrote: > I don't know how to describe this, so be patient <g>. If you look at > the other 'daughter' on the page, you can see that the writer carried > the cross of the 'T' over quite a bit, made it long. Looking at the > first entry below Clarence, you can see that cross line. It's not > noticeable with Josephine's entry because there's so much ink there. > > I'm not even going near what the enumerator put for the father's birth > place <vbg> - although, looking at the 1860 census, he appears to be > living in Cross Creek, Washington County, PA, with his parents (birth > year is the same, and the name of the mother is the same as the name of > one of his daughters - Accius): > Year: 1900; Census Place: Reynoldson, Gates, North Carolina; Roll: T623 > 1196; Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 47 > > Washington County, PA is on the border, then you have a sliver of West > Virginia, then you reach Jefferson County, OH. On the 1880 census, some > of the children are shown as being born in OH, and some are shown as > being born in West Virginia. > > Looking at the 1880 census for this family, they had an older daughter > named Josephine, but the name on the 1900 census still looks like > Josephine to me as well. Maybe the older daughter died and they named > the newborn after her? > > Jacob seems to have died between 1900 and 1910 - Margaret is the head of > household in the 1910 Federal Census. > > Cathy > > > > singhals wrote: > >> Could I persuade either of you that Jacob's bp is Bala Cynwd, in PA >> (creatively misspelt phoneticly?). Mary's is Pennsylvania and the >> rest seem to be Ohio. >> >> But, ummmmmmmmmmm, Cleveland says "son" and everyone after him looks >> to me like "boarder" not "daughter" Note absence of a descendor >> before the ascendor. See line 74 vs line 78? >> >> Cheryl >

You could be right, but there's still no descendor before the ascendor and that always bothers me? As I mentioned to Mike, Jacob's bp doesn't look like the word Pennsylvania anywhere else on the page. It looks like two words, and when I was scrolling, it suddenly looked like Bala [something] Bala cy* occurred to me first, because I have friends there, but it _could_ be almost any of the other places called Bala [something] -- as I recall there are more than 2 of 'em, but I don't remember the others or where they are. I was pretty tired when I looked, but sober, if that counts? Cheryl Huntersglenn wrote: > I don't know how to describe this, so be patient <g>. If you look at > the other 'daughter' on the page, you can see that the writer carried > the cross of the 'T' over quite a bit, made it long. Looking at the > first entry below Clarence, you can see that cross line. It's not > noticeable with Josephine's entry because there's so much ink there. > > I'm not even going near what the enumerator put for the father's birth > place <vbg> - although, looking at the 1860 census, he appears to be > living in Cross Creek, Washington County, PA, with his parents (birth > year is the same, and the name of the mother is the same as the name of > one of his daughters - Accius): > Year: 1900; Census Place: Reynoldson, Gates, North Carolina; Roll: T623 > 1196; Page: 13A; Enumeration District: 47 > > Washington County, PA is on the border, then you have a sliver of West > Virginia, then you reach Jefferson County, OH. On the 1880 census, some > of the children are shown as being born in OH, and some are shown as > being born in West Virginia. > > Looking at the 1880 census for this family, they had an older daughter > named Josephine, but the name on the 1900 census still looks like > Josephine to me as well. Maybe the older daughter died and they named > the newborn after her? > > Jacob seems to have died between 1900 and 1910 - Margaret is the head of > household in the 1910 Federal Census. > > Cathy > > > > singhals wrote: > >> Could I persuade either of you that Jacob's bp is Bala Cynwd, in PA >> (creatively misspelt phoneticly?). Mary's is Pennsylvania and the >> rest seem to be Ohio. >> >> But, ummmmmmmmmmm, Cleveland says "son" and everyone after him looks >> to me like "boarder" not "daughter" Note absence of a descendor >> before the ascendor. See line 74 vs line 78? >> >> Cheryl