If I submit two samples to SMGF's database, how do I use the search at http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx to compare them? It seems I need to know the marker values of one of the samples to get the matches/no matches for the other. True? I'm beginning to think I will have to submit at least one of the two samples to a testing lab that will tell me the results. True? -- Dennis

"Dennis" wrote in message news:9ie3m3dutn3885pmi3uhevac922joenojg@4ax.com... > If I submit two samples to SMGF's database, how do I use the search at > http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx to compare them? It seems I > need to know the marker values of one of the samples to get the > matches/no matches for the other. True? I'm beginning to think I will > have to submit at least one of the two samples to a testing lab that > will tell me the results. True? > > -- > > Dennis You can search for results by surname. I just put in Smith and there were 206 matches so even a common surname doesn't return so many results that you couldn't find yours. Doug

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:02:42 GMT, "Doug Corbin" <bookrk@swbell.net> wrote: > >"Dennis" wrote in message >news:9ie3m3dutn3885pmi3uhevac922joenojg@4ax.com... >> If I submit two samples to SMGF's database, how do I use the search at >> http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx to compare them? It seems I >> need to know the marker values of one of the samples to get the >> matches/no matches for the other. True? I'm beginning to think I will >> have to submit at least one of the two samples to a testing lab that >> will tell me the results. True? >> >> -- >> >> Dennis > >You can search for results by surname. I just put in Smith and there were >206 matches so even a common surname doesn't return so many results that you >couldn't find yours. > >Doug Maybe I'm being thick, but using your example of SMITH and the default marker values on the Search page, let's say that I determine that Result #1 and Result #2 are the two tests I submitted. The default marker value for DYS449 for the search was 29. Both #1 and #2 were "no match", meaning #1 was not 29 and #2 was not 29. This doesn't mean that #1 and #2 match each other (on DYS449), because one could be 30 and one could be 31. Do you see what I mean? You cannot just find the two tests that you submitted and compare the colors that appear in the table. -- Dennis

"Dennis" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message news:lj95m31idf1m3ljf0pnnf9jqljbj178t6v@4ax.com... > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 15:02:42 GMT, "Doug Corbin" <bookrk@swbell.net> > wrote: > >> >>"Dennis" wrote in message >>news:9ie3m3dutn3885pmi3uhevac922joenojg@4ax.com... >>> If I submit two samples to SMGF's database, how do I use the search at >>> http://www.smgf.org/ychromosome/search.jspx to compare them? It seems I >>> need to know the marker values of one of the samples to get the >>> matches/no matches for the other. True? I'm beginning to think I will >>> have to submit at least one of the two samples to a testing lab that >>> will tell me the results. True? >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Dennis >> >>You can search for results by surname. I just put in Smith and there were >>206 matches so even a common surname doesn't return so many results that >>you >>couldn't find yours. >> >>Doug > > Maybe I'm being thick, but using your example of SMITH and the default > marker values on the Search page, let's say that I determine that Result > #1 and Result #2 are the two tests I submitted. The default marker value > for DYS449 for the search was 29. Both #1 and #2 were "no match", > meaning #1 was not 29 and #2 was not 29. This doesn't mean that #1 and > #2 match each other (on DYS449), because one could be 30 and one could > be 31. > > Do you see what I mean? You cannot just find the two tests that you > submitted and compare the colors that appear in the table. > > -- > > Dennis Dennis, it will take a while, but you CAN figure out all the marker values for #1, by patiently doing a number of searches. If DYS449's default marker (29) is not a match for sample #1, try each of the other possible marker values for DYS449 until you detemine the one that IS a match. Then move on to the next "no match" and do the same thing. SMGF will only allow a certain number of searches per day (50?), so it may take a while to figure out ALL the matches for Sample #1, but when you do, you can compare any of the other samples to that one. Hey, it ain't a perfect system, but you can't beat the price!