Hello Wonderful SKSs, Could some one find Thomas Murphy on the 1850 Census DOB about 1809. One source is he was born in Ireland or Virginia / West Virginia. I only need the citation. On HQ, I am not able to do any search on the 1850, but can find by roll and page. F.Y.I., At least three of his children married three of my Starr relatives. George Washington Murphy M. July 20, 1863 Wellsburg, Brooke, Virginia / West Virginia, USA Nancy Jane Starr Margaret Amelia Murphy M. about 1860 Per the 1900 Census Jacob Starr Elizabeth Murphy M. January 02, 1863 Wellsburg, Brooke, Virginia / West Virginia, USA Joseph Starr (F.Y.I., On the 1900 Census they have two Murphy children living with them a nephew and a niece(?).) He is on the 1860 Census under Series: M653 Roll: 1337 Page: 549. His mother may be listed as the second E. Murphy about 78 years old. I suspect they moved from Washington County Pennsylvania to Brooke County, Virginia / West Virginia between 1848 - 1851. This is based on the 1860 Census showing where the children were born. However the counties do abut each other. Mike in Ohio