On Jun 25, 1:43 am, Charles Ellson <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:01:48 -0500, "Joe Pessarra" > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >"Gerry" <[email protected]> wrote in message > >news:[email protected] > >> In article > >> <[email protected]>, > >> Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> On Jun 24, 11:39 am, Gerry <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > In article > >>> > <[email protected]m>, > > >>> > Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > > If a person died completely unidentified, is he named as John Doe on > >>> > > the death certificate? Is there a record by county or state of all > >>> > > John Doe deaths? > >>> > > Thanks. Trying to locate someone and not sure if dead or alive. > > >>> > What's the person's name, birthdate, birthplace, and last known > >>> > residence? > > >>> > With this information someone may be able to assist you in your search. > > >>> > Looking for John Doe's won't get you any nearer to the answer. > > >>> I thought that I could access John Doe death records in a particular > >>> county and tell, maybe, by date of death.  Not a good idea? Write to > >>> police in that city or county and ask for assistance? > > >>>  I have combed the SS death index and nada. > >>> Another person combed too in case these eyes missed it  - nada otra > >>> vez. See, we are not sure if dead or alive.  We are striking out on > >>> both avenues.  Last legal entry we can find is 1986. Then disappears > >>> into thin air, it seems. > > >> Again, What's the person's name, birthdate, birthplace, and last known > >> residence? > > >> With this information someone may be able to assist you in your search. > > >> Chasing a wild goose will only get you tired out! > > >I agree with Gerry.  Give us some concrete information, and maybe we can > >find the person for you.  I found family for someone in Germany whom they > >had been out of contact with since WW2.  All I had was a name and FOUR > >possible places they might have been.  The person was dead, but wife had > >kept his name for family's phone number, a common occurrence. > > >Let us help you. > > Has e.g. the "People Search" onhttp://www.whitepages.com/been looked > at ? The details returned can be a bit fuzzy (presumably as someone > wants to sell a further service) but can often mesh in with other > known information. Tried that. Nada.

In article <[email protected]m>, Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: > > Tried that. Nada. Please, let us help you with your search, which I see you have been asking the same question for several months, without finding anything about your lost soul. As an introduction, I'm a former genealogy librarian with a state historical society, and I've worked with many database systems in various libraries and on the internet, and pride myself in being able to locate information others have been unable to find. So again, if you could supply the following information, either I or some other resident of this group can help you with your search. We need to know the following information about your lost person: Name Birthplace Birthdate Residences, especially the last known one. Occupation(s) Marital status Parents names Siblings

On Jun 25, 7:28 pm, Gerry <[email protected]> wrote: > In article > <[email protected]m>, > >  Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tried that.  Nada. > > Please, let us help you with your search, which I see you have been > asking  the same question for several months, without finding anything > about your lost soul. > > As an introduction, I'm a former genealogy librarian with a state > historical society, and I've worked with many database systems in > various libraries and on the internet, and pride myself in being able to > locate information others have been unable to find. > > So again, if you could supply the following information, either I or > some other resident of this group can help you with your search. > > We need to know the following information about your lost person: > > Name > Birthplace > Birthdate > Residences, especially the last known one. > Occupation(s) > Marital status > Parents names > Siblings Watch for private eml. Thank you so much.

In article <[email protected]m>, Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jun 25, 7:28 pm, Gerry <[email protected]> wrote: > > In article > > <[email protected]m>, > > > >  Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Tried that.  Nada. > > > > Please, let us help you with your search, which I see you have been > > asking  the same question for several months, without finding anything > > about your lost soul. > > > > As an introduction, I'm a former genealogy librarian with a state > > historical society, and I've worked with many database systems in > > various libraries and on the internet, and pride myself in being able to > > locate information others have been unable to find. > > > > So again, if you could supply the following information, either I or > > some other resident of this group can help you with your search. > > > > We need to know the following information about your lost person: > > > > Name > > Birthplace > > Birthdate > > Residences, especially the last known one. > > Occupation(s) > > Marital status > > Parents names > > Siblings > > Watch for private eml. Thank you so much. My address in newsgroups is not correct as this stops spam appearing in my mail box, you can send an email to me at gdw2269 at yahoo.coom, of course changing the (at) to the appropriate symbol and change coom to com. Looking forward to assist you in your search. Gerry Wright

On Jun 25, 7:28 pm, Gerry <[email protected]> wrote: > In article > <[email protected]m>, > >  Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Tried that.  Nada. > > Please, let us help you with your search, which I see you have been > asking  the same question for several months, without finding anything > about your lost soul. > > As an introduction, I'm a former genealogy librarian with a state > historical society, and I've worked with many database systems in > various libraries and on the internet, and pride myself in being able to > locate information others have been unable to find. > > So again, if you could supply the following information, either I or > some other resident of this group can help you with your search. > > We need to know the following information about your lost person: > > Name > Birthplace > Birthdate > Residences, especially the last known one. > Occupation(s) > Marital status > Parents names > Siblings Thanks for your interest. Call off the hunt - I just found proof that the party's deceased.

In article <[email protected]m>, Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: > On Jun 25, 7:28 pm, Gerry <[email protected]> wrote: > > In article > > <[email protected]m>, > > > >  Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Tried that.  Nada. > > > > Please, let us help you with your search, which I see you have been > > asking  the same question for several months, without finding anything > > about your lost soul. > > > > As an introduction, I'm a former genealogy librarian with a state > > historical society, and I've worked with many database systems in > > various libraries and on the internet, and pride myself in being able to > > locate information others have been unable to find. > > > > So again, if you could supply the following information, either I or > > some other resident of this group can help you with your search. > > > > We need to know the following information about your lost person: > > > > Name > > Birthplace > > Birthdate > > Residences, especially the last known one. > > Occupation(s) > > Marital status > > Parents names > > Siblings > > Thanks for your interest. Call off the hunt - I just found proof that > the party's deceased. What was the proof that he is deceased? I found him still listed in a record, as still residing in Boca Raton, Florida. - Gerry

On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 05:42:25 -0700 (PDT), Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: >On Jun 25, 1:43 am, Charles Ellson <[email protected]> wrote: >> On Wed, 24 Jun 2009 21:01:48 -0500, "Joe Pessarra" >> >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >"Gerry" <[email protected]> wrote in message >> >news:[email protected] >> >> In article >> >> <[email protected]>, >> >> Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>> On Jun 24, 11:39 am, Gerry <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > In article >> >>> > <[email protected]m>, >> >> >>> > Kalmia <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> > > If a person died completely unidentified, is he named as John Doe on >> >>> > > the death certificate? Is there a record by county or state of all >> >>> > > John Doe deaths? >> >>> > > Thanks. Trying to locate someone and not sure if dead or alive. >> >> >>> > What's the person's name, birthdate, birthplace, and last known >> >>> > residence? >> >> >>> > With this information someone may be able to assist you in your search. >> >> >>> > Looking for John Doe's won't get you any nearer to the answer. >> >> >>> I thought that I could access John Doe death records in a particular >> >>> county and tell, maybe, by date of death.  Not a good idea? Write to >> >>> police in that city or county and ask for assistance? >> >> >>>  I have combed the SS death index and nada. >> >>> Another person combed too in case these eyes missed it  - nada otra >> >>> vez. See, we are not sure if dead or alive.  We are striking out on >> >>> both avenues.  Last legal entry we can find is 1986. Then disappears >> >>> into thin air, it seems. >> >> >> Again, What's the person's name, birthdate, birthplace, and last known >> >> residence? >> >> >> With this information someone may be able to assist you in your search. >> >> >> Chasing a wild goose will only get you tired out! >> >> >I agree with Gerry.  Give us some concrete information, and maybe we can >> >find the person for you.  I found family for someone in Germany whom they >> >had been out of contact with since WW2.  All I had was a name and FOUR >> >possible places they might have been.  The person was dead, but wife had >> >kept his name for family's phone number, a common occurrence. >> >> >Let us help you. >> >> Has e.g. the "People Search" onhttp://www.whitepages.com/been looked >> at ? The details returned can be a bit fuzzy (presumably as someone >> wants to sell a further service) but can often mesh in with other >> known information. > >Tried that. Nada. > That doesn't sound too hopeful if no trace at all shows, I've seen "stale" information for people who have died a few years ago but no info at all IME is usually followed by finding that they are long gone. Depending on how far away you are searching from, you could try :- -family graves (if any known) -spouses who might also have since died, an obituary could refer back to the first death -records of wills etc. which IMU will in the USA be the same as elsewhere, being associated with the last residence - some people avoid the usual set of records by dying on holiday or while doing something else away from home. They avoid their local death records but the disposal of their estate does not generally avoid the local court records. -local newspaper records - the availability is rather random and even 1986 is still a bit prehistoric for many computerised indexes but card indexes could exist in local history libraries. -old telephone directories, mainly to give a date to assist searching other records. Don't forgot the delay between someone disappearing from the local system and the next up-to-date edition. Is there a good reason to suspect that they have managed to die anonymously or is it more likely that they have not died where they had been settled ? One common way of achieving the latter is simply by going to live with children in another area.