Any New Mexico residence on these boards? I am not finding an obituary for my uncle in law David Halverson late of Albuquerque, New Mexico. He died Jan. 25, 2011. He was born in Menomonie, Wisconsin.

January 2011 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with G - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 February 2011 Gaines 1700 1930 VA>NC>SC>GA jcall001 Gallagher mayo,ire chs,eng dutchess co, ny kgk2450 Galleone 1886 now Italy>USA mconstab Garbarino 1869 1914 Tribogna, ITA>NYC erourke7 Gardner 1638 1677 England>Newport, RI, USA George Gardner jo1637 Garner 1600 present sc>ga>al, usa sc>, Polk & Paulding Co., Ga.& Al. chiefphl Garrels 1841 now Grossefehn,Aurich,Niedersachsen,Germany>Carroll County,IA>Stephenson County,IL wiscgirl Gaskins 1724 1946 MD>SC>FL HCAM Gates 1566 1754 Eng>Mass hcam Gavigan 1882 now MD>FL Dpaulson Gay 1867 MD Dpaulson Gearhart aug 1923 11-12-87 va cg08 Gerhardt Prior to 1850 Rheinland-Pfalz-GER-USA-PA-WI GAHARD GAHART vistaca Geyer 1800 1990 Frankenthal,Germany to USA Lived in Johnstown Pa,Milvale Pa,Gibsonia Pa,Greenville Pa MuellerG Gibson 1570 1812 Eng>Mass hcam Gill 1879 1955 tn>mo william americus brenda70 Gilmore 1898 1959 Dublin, Ireland Leader of early Protestant IRA Heppy64 Gimbel 1796 1870 Ostringen,BAD,DEU>TuscarawasCo,OH>IA,USA strabala Gingrich 1840 2011 ONT, CDA>MI, WI, USA Cnda to St. Clair/Mskg>Mwk LoK8r Glover 1800 1938 VA>KY>TN>MO>IL specifically ancestors of James William C Glover saragg70 Glover 1812 2010 Mayo, Ireland to Staffordshire, Eng. jillikin Gmachl 1850 PRESENT OBERALM AUT>ST. LOUIS MISSOURI jpekarek Gniadek 1800 1950 Poland Marzalek Goodwin 1750 1950 AnsonCo,ChesterfieldCo,USA Could have lived in Stanley, Richmond, Union, or Montgomery Counties lail1234 Goodwin 1826 1995 SCT>Philadelphia,PA>MD>WV>AlleghenyCo,PA>WestmorelandCo,PA>CA,USA jmcilnay Goulding Prior to 1800 Cheshire, ENG-WI-USA GOULDIN vistaca Gradwell 1793 now Ulverston, Lan,Eng jenny4d Graham 1620 1820+ Scotland>Williamsburg, SC hcam Graves 1946 MO>WA dkp75 Graxiola 1700's present MX>CA also "Gaxiola" ariddell Gray 1676 1897 Scotland>VA>TN>Hickman TN married Forehand hcam Green 1810 now SC,AL peatonc Green 1833 1904 ENG/IRL>NSW,AUS MARY RAILTON (KNEE GREEN) B. ABT1833 ANY INFO OF HOW SHE ARRIVE IN AUS spicc Grefe 1849 now Stettin,PribbernowOPRU>Ohio>Germantown,Juneau County, WI wiscgirl Griffith 1800 1900 Clarke Co, VA>WVA Need Pre1870 Census Info DCFDRS4 Grimes 1874 MD Dpaulson Gwinnup 1600 now OH>IN>IL>MO jar46 See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

Well, that's strange. When I search for my great-grandfather I get: Name: Alfred John Raymond Age: 25 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1856 Birthplace: Clifton Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Condition: Married Profession / Occupation: Carpenter Address: Camden Terrace 15 Census Place: Clifton, Gloucester, England Disability: Record Type: Household Family History Library Film: 1341597 The National Archives Reference: RG11 Piece / Folio: 2480 / 78 Page Number: 15 but no sign of his wife Elizabeth. When I search for her directly, she does appear: Name: Elizabeth Raymond Age: 23 Gender: Female Birth Year: 1858 Birthplace: Clifton Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Marital Condition: Married Profession / Occupation: Wife Carpenter Address: Camden Terrace 15 Census Place: Clifton, Gloucester, England Disability: Record Type: Household Family History Library Film: 1341597 The National Archives Reference: RG11 Piece / Folio: 2480 / 78 Page Number: 15 So both appear without links to one another and neither has links to their son. Very strange! Kerry

Kerry Raymond wrote: > Well, that's strange. When I search for my great-grandfather I get: > Name: Alfred John Raymond > Age: 25 > Gender: Male > Birth Year: 1856 > Birthplace: Clifton > Relationship to Head of Household: Head > Marital Condition: Married > Profession / Occupation: Carpenter > Address: Camden Terrace 15 > Census Place: Clifton, Gloucester, England > Disability: > Record Type: Household > Family History Library Film: 1341597 > The National Archives Reference: RG11 > Piece / Folio: 2480 / 78 > Page Number: 15 > > but no sign of his wife Elizabeth. When I search for her directly, she > does appear: > > Name: Elizabeth Raymond > Age: 23 > Gender: Female > Birth Year: 1858 > Birthplace: Clifton > Relationship to Head of Household: Wife > Marital Condition: Married > Profession / Occupation: Wife Carpenter > Address: Camden Terrace 15 > Census Place: Clifton, Gloucester, England > Disability: > Record Type: Household > Family History Library Film: 1341597 > The National Archives Reference: RG11 > Piece / Folio: 2480 / 78 > Page Number: 15 > > So both appear without links to one another and neither has links to > their son. Very strange! I get the same on the same browser that gets me the complete household of owd Spence. So it's not browser related. It looks as if the transfer to the new system is incomplete. You could raise it with their support but if my efforts to get them to fix the broken downloads on the old site are anything to go by you're not going to get much success. -- Ian The Hotmail address is my spam-bin. Real mail address is iang at austonley org uk

One significant deficiency is access to households in the 1881 census. While the new interface will provide you with the 1881 census info on the person you searched for, there is no link to the household record. So how do you find parents, spouse, children etc? Kerry

Kerry Raymond wrote: > One significant deficiency is access to households in the 1881 census. > While the new interface will provide you with the 1881 census info on > the person you searched for, there is no link to the household record. > So how do you find parents, spouse, children etc? If I search for Spencer Goddard I get: Name: Spencer Goddard Age: 48 Gender: Male Birth Year: 1833 Birthplace: Austonley, York, England Relationship to Head of Household: Head Marital Condition: Married Profession / Occupation: Stone Merchant Employing 12 Men 2 Boys Address: Hoowood Census Place: Austonley, York, England Disability: Record Type: Household Family History Library Film: 1342043 The National Archives Reference: RG11 Piece / Folio: 4370 / 105 Page Number: 5 Household Gender Age Child Harry Goddard M 25 Child Ben Goddard M 22 Spencer Goddard M 48 Harry & Ben's names are both clickable to take me through to their respective records. It's a bit odd that two men in their 20s are described as children & it's not as convenient as the fully tabulated household record but the data is all there. If you don't see the partial record then maybe some data isn't fully in place - or maybe it doesn't work with all browsers, which wouldn't surprise me in the least. Unfortunately the links aren't there for '41, '61 & '91. Although he was married (remarried, in fact) he wasn't living with his wife Rachel. I can find her, she's at a different Austonley address but clicking on her name throws an error although her record works fine on the original site. -- Ian The Hotmail address is my spam-bin. Real mail address is iang at austonley org uk

On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 10:36:19 -0800, Don Kirkman <donsgenes@charter.net> wrote: >I do have a few MD Sullivans, variously spelled, since that's where my >quest began. I'll be glad to see if I've got anything useful, Brian. >] >>You can easily obtain the same info through Heritage Quest if you have >>a library card. Remember to try various spellings including Sullivant. >>HQ is particular about spelling. > >I haven't checked, but I may have both Sullivant and Sul[l]ivane, >maybe even some real Sullivans. :-). Thanks but while I live in MD, I grew up in CT and I think the Sullivans were from NY.

On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 12:24:40 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote: >A cupla thots... > >If he moved South he might not have remained Catholic. In rural areas >of the South there may only be 1 Catholic Church in a county. But the >Primitive Baptist Churches are "one axle greasin'" apart. That's about >10 miles. The four male generations before me were all Primitive >Baptists in AL and I have actually attended services at each of the >churches they did. > >Also a number of immigrants first went to Jamaice or other islands >before continuing the journey to the mainland. > >I have a census listing of Sullivans in MD for 1800 and 1810 if that >would halp. It does not include household members because I do not >research MD. > >You can easily obtain the same info through Heritage Quest if you have >a library card. Remember to try various spellings including Sullivant. >HQ is particular about spelling. > >Hugh Thanks but my Sullivan ancestors I believe emigrated to NY and stayed there although I can't be certain. My paternal grandmother's mother was a Sullivan and my grandmother grew up in NY. It was my wife's ancestor who lived in MD and moved south. He was not Catholic and may have been Quaker or Brethren. My father in law was Methodist and my wife was raised Southern Baptist. She grew up in a county that is now a large suburb of Atlanta but was then a rural area. The priest who married us said that he had responsibility for that county in the 50's and there were 5 Catholic families in the whole county then.

On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:01:15 -0500, Brian <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> wrote: >On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:52:45 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh >Sullivan) wrote: >>One thing you quickly notice is that a person might never move yet he >>could live in as many as 4 counties because the county lines changed. >>It would appear to the casual observer that he had moved 4 times. >> >>Hugh > >That is the case with an ancestor of my wife. He emigrated to MD from >an unknown location and where he lived has been in 3 or 4 different >counties. His descendants moved away, many to the south. My wife was >born in GA and moved to MD when we married. She now lives about 30 >miles from where her ancestor did. A cupla thots... If he moved South he might not have remained Catholic. In rural areas of the South there may only be 1 Catholic Church in a county. But the Primitive Baptist Churches are "one axle greasin'" apart. That's about 10 miles. The four male generations before me were all Primitive Baptists in AL and I have actually attended services at each of the churches they did. Also a number of immigrants first went to Jamaice or other islands before continuing the journey to the mainland. I have a census listing of Sullivans in MD for 1800 and 1810 if that would halp. It does not include household members because I do not research MD. You can easily obtain the same info through Heritage Quest if you have a library card. Remember to try various spellings including Sullivant. HQ is particular about spelling. Hugh

January 2011 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with F - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 February 2011 Feliz 1700's present SP>MX>CA Martina Espinosa Feliz ariddell Ferguson 1888 1969 EarlstownNS>TruroNS dapperda Fincham 1813 1944 VA>WV,USA WrennCE Firestone ----- 1/1/2011 USA llkcr Fitzgibbons 1820 1930 IN kaelin Fletcher 1830 1910 OH>IN married Stuck kaelin Flowers 1791 now Nuneaton,WAR,ENG johnford Forehand 1698 1932 IRL>Camden Co.NC>WilliamsonCo>HickmanCo,TN,USA hcam Forget 1800 present QC,CAN>Jefferson Co, NY>Schenectady Looking for information on Marie Louisa Anna Forget sg21 Forget 1900 1975 St. Jovite > Quebec triciak Forshaw 1750 1899 Lancashire,England Lydia Forshaw 1808 kyleowen Forsythe 1806 2011 PA?>DauphinCo,PA,USA jmcilnay Fort abt1630 1760+ VA>Chowan, NC >Edgecomb, NC>Robeson, NC married into Barnes line hcam Fortner 1885 1994 MO (Stoddard Co) I have some information on father's family. He was George Leroy Fortner, Sr. I need more. nondus2u Fowler UK Newfound England English origin almed Franek c1900 now PA Stephen Franek married Anna Bosak; (Stephen died 4/1927; Anna died 2/1976) They had 7 childen. My father, Stephen, was the youngest of the 7 children. susan111 Frie PRU NY WI caf61h Fritch 1871 1950 Sunman, Indiana driehle Fuller 1110 now ENG,GER,ENG,VA,NC,GA,ALA,GA MAYFLOWER Suzie73 Furry 1800 now TN nanah3 See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

On Mon, 07 Feb 2011 12:24:40 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote: >On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 22:01:15 -0500, Brian <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> >wrote: > >>On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:52:45 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh >>Sullivan) wrote: > >>>One thing you quickly notice is that a person might never move yet he >>>could live in as many as 4 counties because the county lines changed. >>>It would appear to the casual observer that he had moved 4 times. >>> >>>Hugh >> >>That is the case with an ancestor of my wife. He emigrated to MD from >>an unknown location and where he lived has been in 3 or 4 different >>counties. His descendants moved away, many to the south. My wife was >>born in GA and moved to MD when we married. She now lives about 30 >>miles from where her ancestor did. > >A cupla thots... > >If he moved South he might not have remained Catholic. In rural areas >of the South there may only be 1 Catholic Church in a county. But the >Primitive Baptist Churches are "one axle greasin'" apart. That's about >10 miles. The four male generations before me were all Primitive >Baptists in AL and I have actually attended services at each of the >churches they did. > >Also a number of immigrants first went to Jamaice or other islands >before continuing the journey to the mainland. > >I have a census listing of Sullivans in MD for 1800 and 1810 if that >would halp. It does not include household members because I do not >research MD. I do have a few MD Sullivans, variously spelled, since that's where my quest began. I'll be glad to see if I've got anything useful, Brian. ] >You can easily obtain the same info through Heritage Quest if you have >a library card. Remember to try various spellings including Sullivant. >HQ is particular about spelling. I haven't checked, but I may have both Sullivant and Sul[l]ivane, maybe even some real Sullivans. :-). -- Don donsgenes@charter.net

On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 11:36:10 -0800, Don Kirkman <donsgenes@charter.net> wrote: >The Quaker records for North Carolina apparently survived better than >the official records, and there were Sullivans of various spellings >among them, as well as among my tribe who passed through North >Carolina ca. 1790 - 1835 (a lot of them stayed, of course). In the >off chance that Brian's Sullivans had Quaker links he might want to >look up Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. I, >which is all about North Carolina records. I got a lot of my North >Carolina information from it, because a lot of men in my tree had the >good sense to marry Quaker women so I got birth, marriage, death, and >other information not only for my men but for many of the women they >married. You can find Hinshaw and other Quaker material via Ancestry >by searching the Card Catalog with "quaker genealogy." Some of my wife's ancestor's may have been Quaker and I'll tell her about that reference. However, my ancestors on my father's side were all Roman Catholics as far as I know.

On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:52:45 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote: >Sounds like you are headed in the right direction. But, when comparing >my efforts to some in this forum I consider myself a rank amateur. I >am more inclined to go with irrefutable preponderance of evidence than >the purists. I know that I am very amateur. > >If they came to NY perhaps they came through Ellis Island. There is >also a listing of ships with passengers, ISTG? available. In my >listing of facts I have Sullivans at POEs at more Southern ports >before 1800. They came before Ellis Island. I have found a little information through Castle Garden. > >You are fortunate in a fashion by ancestors being in NY. Most VA and >NC records were destroyed by war as late as1865 and by fire and flood >otherwise. That's the main reason my preponderance is irrefutable. > >It's sorta late for long-time researchers, but I suggest that newbies >record every fact they find, by year state and county, on a word >processor. It's easy to move the facts to a genie program later. But >the listing of facts can also be done later in alpha order by county, >and in the order that counties were formed from each other, to assist >in linking people. > >One thing you quickly notice is that a person might never move yet he >could live in as many as 4 counties because the county lines changed. >It would appear to the casual observer that he had moved 4 times. > >Hugh That is the case with an ancestor of my wife. He emigrated to MD from an unknown location and where he lived has been in 3 or 4 different counties. His descendants moved away, many to the south. My wife was born in GA and moved to MD when we married. She now lives about 30 miles from where her ancestor did.

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:06:31 -0500, Brian <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> wrote: >Thanks but I think my ancestors came to NY in the early 1800's. I was >not aware of the many variations in spelling. >I have noticed some family trees that I know are incorrect because >I've done research into records. There is one fairly distant relative >that I tried to communicate this to but she still has the incorrect >information posted. >I look at any trees as places to get ideas that need to be researched. Sounds like you are headed in the right direction. But, when comparing my efforts to some in this forum I consider myself a rank amateur. I am more inclined to go with irrefutable preponderance of evidence than the purists. If they came to NY perhaps they came through Ellis Island. There is also a listing of ships with passengers, ISTG? available. In my listing of facts I have Sullivans at POEs at more Southern ports before 1800. You are fortunate in a fashion by ancestors being in NY. Most VA and NC records were destroyed by war as late as1865 and by fire and flood otherwise. That's the main reason my preponderance is irrefutable. It's sorta late for long-time researchers, but I suggest that newbies record every fact they find, by year state and county, on a word processor. It's easy to move the facts to a genie program later. But the listing of facts can also be done later in alpha order by county, and in the order that counties were formed from each other, to assist in linking people. One thing you quickly notice is that a person might never move yet he could live in as many as 4 counties because the county lines changed. It would appear to the casual observer that he had moved 4 times. Hugh

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 14:55:38 -0500, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote: >On 02-05-2011 12:41, J. Hugh Sullivan wrote: >> I find that tress are very repetitive on Ancestry and most are, to say >> the least, very suspicious. > >Indeed. In looking for info one day, I discovered that dozens of people >are repeating that one of my ancestors is the daughter of a French >couple, when in fact, there is ample evidence that she was a native >American from the opposite side of the continent. > >Some of these people have copied stuff from me, apparently without >noticing that I mention her Ktunaxa origins. And then copy someone >else's contradictory unfounded wild guess on top of it. > >-- >Wes Groleau Some of my early efforts, that I later disproved, were copied and publicized by a couple of people. They gave me a break by not ever reporting me as their source. 8-) Hugh

On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 13:52:45 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote: >On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:06:31 -0500, Brian <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> >wrote: > >>Thanks but I think my ancestors came to NY in the early 1800's. I was >>not aware of the many variations in spelling. >>I have noticed some family trees that I know are incorrect because >>I've done research into records. There is one fairly distant relative >>that I tried to communicate this to but she still has the incorrect >>information posted. >>I look at any trees as places to get ideas that need to be researched. > >Sounds like you are headed in the right direction. But, when comparing >my efforts to some in this forum I consider myself a rank amateur. I >am more inclined to go with irrefutable preponderance of evidence than >the purists. I tend to write that sort of evidence into my record but I also indicate that it is probable, but not proven. If someone later on happens to find that evidence that probably doesn't exist, we can all rejoice. :-) >If they came to NY perhaps they came through Ellis Island. There is >also a listing of ships with passengers, ISTG? available. In my >listing of facts I have Sullivans at POEs at more Southern ports >before 1800. Don't forget that many came through Castle Garden before Ellis Island opened, though. IIRC that change was about 1890. >You are fortunate in a fashion by ancestors being in NY. Most VA and >NC records were destroyed by war as late as1865 and by fire and flood >otherwise. That's the main reason my preponderance is irrefutable. The Quaker records for North Carolina apparently survived better than the official records, and there were Sullivans of various spellings among them, as well as among my tribe who passed through North Carolina ca. 1790 - 1835 (a lot of them stayed, of course). In the off chance that Brian's Sullivans had Quaker links he might want to look up Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. I, which is all about North Carolina records. I got a lot of my North Carolina information from it, because a lot of men in my tree had the good sense to marry Quaker women so I got birth, marriage, death, and other information not only for my men but for many of the women they married. You can find Hinshaw and other Quaker material via Ancestry by searching the Card Catalog with "quaker genealogy." >It's sorta late for long-time researchers, but I suggest that newbies >record every fact they find, by year state and county, on a word >processor. It's easy to move the facts to a genie program later. But >the listing of facts can also be done later in alpha order by county, >and in the order that counties were formed from each other, to assist >in linking people. >One thing you quickly notice is that a person might never move yet he >could live in as many as 4 counties because the county lines changed. >It would appear to the casual observer that he had moved 4 times. Very common everywhere in the US during the expansion/frontier years. -- Don donsgenes@charter.net

January 2011 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with E - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 February 2011 Earhart 1727 1030 FR>PA>OH>Mercer Co. OH married J.L. Youngblutt hcam Earl 1774 1846 Lansingburgh, NY>Volney, Oswego County, NY, USA Mary, married Samuel Dunham jo1637 Earnhart 1867 present NC>TN>MO Johan "Jurg" George EARNHART, Jr.>Daniel>John Wesley>James Robert susieqq Eastlick Prior to 1700 USA EASLICK vistaca Echols 1800 1850 from GA to AL to AR aeaster7 Eckles 1800 1850 from GA to AL to AR aeaster7 Eddins 1750 1950 ChesterfieldCo,SC>AnsonCo,orStanleyCo,NC,USA Earliest record says father born in NC, but oldest I have was born also in NC in 1795, went to SC do not know origin of family or when they came to America lail1234 Elliott 1817 1864 FranklinCo,PA>BedfordCo,PA>MtCarroll,IL,USA jmcilnay Ernest Jeffcoat 1882 1920 Mississippi My Grandfarther Lupus Essert 1800 1900 Ostringen,BAD,DEU>TuscarawasCO,OH,USA>Mishawaka,IN,USA strabala See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 17:41:34 GMT, Eagle@bellsouth.net (J. Hugh Sullivan) wrote: >On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:59:58 -0500, Brian <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> >wrote: > >>Is everything in family search available on ancestry.com? I haven't >>tried family search in quite a while but only found one item that I >>had already found on ancestry. > >I have not tried to compare. But in a listing of sources I find that I >have used Ancestry frequently and Family Search rarely. I use both >probably out of a desire for overkill. Ancestry is somewhat expensive. > >I find that tress are very repetitive on Ancestry and most are, to say >the least, very suspicious. > >>You mentioned looking for a French name in France. > >I was replying to Mr. Groleau and presuming he was of French ancestry. >It gave me a chance to use c'est la vie, vice cherchez la femme. 8-) > >>I have problems >>because I am looking for very common Irish names. Morris, O'Connor, >>Casey and Sullivan. >>Do you have any suggestions? I have counties for Morris and O'Connor >>but not any clue for Sullivan and Casey. > >I don't look at Irish counties, mostly because I am looking before >1800 when mythology and history books are about the only prime >sources. Irish Pedigrees by John O'Hart is very good but has errors. >Track King Milesius and the genealogy after O'Suilebhain in Ireland. >It's almost impossible to help without some particulars. > >Sullivans were mostly in the Bantry Bay area and a LOT of "stuff" is >available on them - but mostly names prior to my ability to link to >current people. I had a cousin who shared a gg grand with me named >Russell. She insisted she had found the grave of his father when she >went to Ireland because the found the grave of a Russell Sullivan. I >shudda stopped there. 8-) > >My DNA indicates that I am of Viking descent. I am familiar with scads >of Sullivan genealogies, most of which are R1b1 vice R1a1 which I am. > >My research, as I have often reported, is copying every fact I can >find on Sullivan in NC and VA to about 1835 and reviewing them in >numerous scenarios to see if I can generate genealogies. I supplement >that with a listing of all Sullivan census records that I have copied >from Ancestry and Heritage Quest. > >In case you didn't know I have found Sullivan spelled 152 different >ways so far, so don't let your research overlook the possibility of >soundex searches or various spellings. > >When in the mood I can spend 12-15 hours a day doing research for a >week or two. But I'm retired and at an age when sitting is often the >most exercise I get. > >If your Sullivans were in VA before 1800 and in NC prior to 1835 I >might be able to help you - or in AL after 1835 regardless of DNA >tests. > >Hugh Thanks but I think my ancestors came to NY in the early 1800's. I was not aware of the many variations in spelling. I have noticed some family trees that I know are incorrect because I've done research into records. There is one fairly distant relative that I tried to communicate this to but she still has the incorrect information posted. I look at any trees as places to get ideas that need to be researched.

On 02-05-2011 02:00, Anne Chambers wrote: > http://www.youtube.com/familysearch#p/f/0/5KLea_DPxb4 While you're there, look for the link to "part two" -- Wes Groleau “Beware the barrenness of a busy life.” — George Verwer

On Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:59:58 -0500, Brian <drmorrisnospam@comcast.net> wrote: >Is everything in family search available on ancestry.com? I haven't >tried family search in quite a while but only found one item that I >had already found on ancestry. I have not tried to compare. But in a listing of sources I find that I have used Ancestry frequently and Family Search rarely. I use both probably out of a desire for overkill. Ancestry is somewhat expensive. I find that tress are very repetitive on Ancestry and most are, to say the least, very suspicious. >You mentioned looking for a French name in France. I was replying to Mr. Groleau and presuming he was of French ancestry. It gave me a chance to use c'est la vie, vice cherchez la femme. 8-) >I have problems >because I am looking for very common Irish names. Morris, O'Connor, >Casey and Sullivan. >Do you have any suggestions? I have counties for Morris and O'Connor >but not any clue for Sullivan and Casey. I don't look at Irish counties, mostly because I am looking before 1800 when mythology and history books are about the only prime sources. Irish Pedigrees by John O'Hart is very good but has errors. Track King Milesius and the genealogy after O'Suilebhain in Ireland. It's almost impossible to help without some particulars. Sullivans were mostly in the Bantry Bay area and a LOT of "stuff" is available on them - but mostly names prior to my ability to link to current people. I had a cousin who shared a gg grand with me named Russell. She insisted she had found the grave of his father when she went to Ireland because the found the grave of a Russell Sullivan. I shudda stopped there. 8-) My DNA indicates that I am of Viking descent. I am familiar with scads of Sullivan genealogies, most of which are R1b1 vice R1a1 which I am. My research, as I have often reported, is copying every fact I can find on Sullivan in NC and VA to about 1835 and reviewing them in numerous scenarios to see if I can generate genealogies. I supplement that with a listing of all Sullivan census records that I have copied from Ancestry and Heritage Quest. In case you didn't know I have found Sullivan spelled 152 different ways so far, so don't let your research overlook the possibility of soundex searches or various spellings. When in the mood I can spend 12-15 hours a day doing research for a week or two. But I'm retired and at an age when sitting is often the most exercise I get. If your Sullivans were in VA before 1800 and in NC prior to 1835 I might be able to help you - or in AL after 1835 regardless of DNA tests. Hugh