May 2011 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with EF - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 5 June 2011 Eagerton 1800 1960 South Caroolina gjcoope Eckert 1800 now DEU>Heidelberg, PA>Toledo & Sylvania, Lucas, OH > Fremont, Ohio also Ech or Eck slj Edwards 1844 2011 Caroline County, VA>Wicomico Co., MD > Caroline Co., MD Martha Ann Edwards tellis Elenbaas 1823 now Nederlands>OH>IN>IA,USA Pieter & Maatje Braam grimmius Eley 1809 1809 Ossett>Dewsbury,WRY,ENG Hannah married Jonathan Peace pamdick Elizabelar SPAIN URUGUAY MONTEVIDEO ELIZABETH, SEPHARIC ORIGIN PEREIRO Ellis 1857 1892 INDIANA born 12-3-1857 died 8-11-1892 gracygir Emerson 1888 1999 james franklin mommataz Engelbach 1800 2011 NJ>NY, USA AJ4OP Fagan 1800 1940 Ireland>NJ pgrowney Fedorscsak 1700 1969 Hungary> Illinois shacks Fierro 1780 Present Montecalvo Irpino,Italy>NJ>PA TFierro Filousz ca 1800 1873 Lugiele, Wizajny, Poland Filousz/Szwarc tellis Finn 1884 now Sligo, IRL>OH> Chicago, IL, USA Michael and Catherine dunbon Fitzgerald WAT,IRL IL,USA 1868 In Chcago census 1870 janemsu Fitzpatrick 1869 1984 IrontonCo,MO>StFrancoisCo,MO>Detroit,MI,USA eirwin Fitzpatrick 1877 1940 NZL Grandmother chiso Flathers 1755 2000 Danville, Indiana U.S.A. Audrey Flathers married Robert Ross 18 Feb 1946 Edmonton Alberta derwyn Flinn 1827 1892 Ireland>Ohio, MD, USA tmpike Flood 1800 1878 Ireland>NJ>CA,USA pgrowney Flynn 1865 now IRL>Chicago, IL Patrick dunbon Forde 1800 Ireland, NY captkusa Forz 1100 1160 Pisa,Italy>Poitiers,France Forz Forz 1100 1180 Genoa,Italy>Poitiers,France Forz Foster 1700 1980 >il>mo>fla shacks Foster 1800 1900 Mass, usa lrj211 Foster 1843 Georgia, USA kathl917 Fredericks 1830 now Darmstadt, Germany, Brooklyn, New York John Martin imm 1852 Gloriaka Freeman 1763 now MA>NY>OH>IN vanyoh Freeman 1970 now TN>IN, USA unsure if the move involved living in KY, USA danfreem Frick 1861 1861 AUS>NJ,USA dcs Frigge 1819 now Westphalia Germany Maria E & Johan C A Jacobi grimmius Fryer 1594 1635 UK>MA vanyoh Fulajtar 1885 1975 hungary, slovakia, michigan, illinois mfulayte Fulayter 1885 now hungary, slovakia, michigan, illinois mfulayte Fuller 1867 1981 Marion Co.,IN>FL Frank M & Addie Pond Fuller DJBH1949 See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

I'm posting this on a number of newsgroups, but have set follow-ups to soc.genealogy.computing, where I think it is most relevant. In the past I know that some family history societies have collected indexes of "strays" - people whose records are found in unexpected places, without any local links. So, for example, someone who died or was buried far from home, or a family that stayed in a place for only a short time and then moved on, would be listed as a stray, and the index might help people in other places with "missing" family members. I am involved in a number of genealogy mailing lists hosted by Yahoogroups, and one of the facilities they offer is the creation of databases by members. I am thinking of creating a database for people to record strays on these sites, and thought I would ask for advice on what to include in such a database, especially from those who may have had some experience of strays indexes. The Yahoogroups databases are limited to 10 fields, so one needs to give some thought to what should go in them. I am thinking of the following: 1. Name of the principal person (Surname, Firstnames) 2. Date (of record or event, in YYYY-MM-DD format) 3. Place (of record or event) 5. Place of origin of the person (if mentioned) 6. Relations of the person (if mentioned) 7. Source (newspaper, tombstone, church record etc.) 8. Notes (any other information about the person or record) 9. Informant (name of person who entered record, and contact info) 10. Date record entered. But people who have more experience of strays indexes might have better ideas, and that is what I am soliciting now. The data from Yahoogroups databases can be downloaded in comma-delimited format, for importing into other databases, spreadsheets etc. It can also be filtered, so that only records meeting certain criteria can be downloaded. This would make it possible to combine data from strays lists in different Yahoo groups into a central database, or to be sent to strays coordinators in various places. Comments and suggestions welcome. -- Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/stevesig.htm Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

May 2011 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with D - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 5 June 2011 D'Elia 1800 1900 Montecalvo Irpino, Itlay TFierro Dallmann 1845 now Hanover Ger>OH, USA Herman & Joppa Elenbaas grimmius Darnley 1783 now Sydney Australia Stockport/Birmingham UK aussie10 Davis 1823 now Jefferson Co IN, USA Abijah & Matilda Beck grimmius Davis 1860 now Jefferson Co IN>IA, USA James S. & Mary Alice Beck grimmius Dawkes 1801 northamptonshire alephant Dawson 1860 now Yorks/Lincs, Eng stuch De Feo 1703 Now Italy>NY>NJ,USA pgrowney Deaver 1600 1850 ENG,VA,TN,BLOUNT CO.,AL Mathew b. 1781 Virginia m. Sheba Jenkins granire Deegan 1845 now Ire>Clevland OH nicki29 Dennis 1630's 1868 MA>Cape May NJ>NY>CAN sjsw1953 Dennis 1760's 1820 Cape May NJ>Beekman NY sjsw1953 Dennis 1820 1868 Norwich Ont CAN>Bristow, IA sjsw1953 Dennison 1731 1731 Bradford,WRY,ENG pamdick Denton 1850 now n.c>ga. bird0223 Derr 1924 OWOSSO MICHIGAN mikal52 Di Persio 1882 Present Villa Oliveti, Pescara, Italy>PA TFierro Dickens ----- 1950 UK, NZ TriciaG Dimitrieff 1875 now Russia/Latvia>Canada Abrene/Pytalova region reeve Disken 1800 1870 Roscommon, IRL dunbon Dixon 1700 1815 England kayrhode Dolan 1800 Ireland, NY captkusa Dominguez 1914 2010 zacatecas durango mexico, CA, TX, ID, CA ddwriter Dorochowicz 1733 2011 Serbia>Jeleniewo Parish, Poland Dorochowicz/Galazin tellis Dowdle 1686 Now Loxhore>Barnstaple>VIC AUST becduck Dowling 1845 now ROS, IRE>MO, USA peghiggi Duckett 1884 Now Lancashire>Slough>AUST becduck Duffield 1730 Rainow, Cheshire, United Kingdom pfa1946 Duijckers 1500 1700 BEL Liege jonny2 Duijkaertsz all all BEL Liege jonny2 Duijkaertz all all BEL Liege jonny2 Duncan 1700 2000 NC,TENN katailnc See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

In article <4deeeb65$0$12458$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com>, sharonf <me7@privacy.net> wrote: > On 6/6/2011 8:52 PM, Gerry wrote: > > In article<4ded9ab3$0$12504$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com>, > > sharonf<me7@privacy.net> wrote: > > > >> On 6/5/2011 8:30 PM, Gerry wrote: > >>> In article<4dec466c$0$12502$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com>, > >>> sharonf<me7@privacy.net> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased > >>>> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? > >>> > >>> They may be in the index but under another form of their name. You may > >>> know the person as James Richard Smith, but is listed in the index as > >>> J.R. Smith or just J. Smith or J. Richard Smith. When did the person > >>> die? If it was before mid 1960s those who died then are not in the > >>> index. If the death is recent it maybe no one has reported the death to > >>> Social Security, and if they have it takes time for the data to be > >>> entered and there is always delay in posting the database on the > >>> internet. > >> > >> I have searched under several different forms of the name. The person > >> died in 1992 so it really should be listed but it's not. > > > > Why not list the name of the person and any other particulars such as > > birthdate& place, residences, and death date and place so that other > > eyes can have a look. > > Good idea. > Name at time of death: Elsie Wise > Maiden name Elsie Janstrom. > Was also Elsie Taylor from 1943 to 1950. Her first husband, George > Taylor died in 1948. > She was born 8/29/1921 in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario , Canada. She died > 12/28/1992 in Brighton, Michigan. Her family was originally from Finland > and her birth name was Elsa Sanelma Janstrom. However I never heard her > called anything other than Elsie. She was my mother's sister. When did she come to the US? Did she always live in Michigan? Did she ever work? Who was Mr. Wise and when did he die? Did she received any SS benefits from her husbands? In another post you mentioned you were given what was supposed to be her SS# what was that number? I suspect at this point either she never had a Social Security number or if she did her death was not reported to Social Security.

May 2011 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with C - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 5 June 2011 Calhoun 1840 Present SC>GA>AL>WV> Matt and Mollie Scott (African American Calhouns) Wilsie Calhoun 1840 Present SC>GA>AL>WV> Matt and Mollie Scott Calhoun - Union Springs, AL - (African American Calhouns) Wilsie Capriotti 1900 1985 Itlay>NJ>NY,USA pgrowney Carmichael 1856 Present SC>TX African-American/Mulatto dalex1 Carroll 1850 1875 CLA,IRL>IL,USA modoneg Carter 1800 Now Virginia jj711 Casey 1756 now Rowan Co NC, USA Samuel & Sarah Hatley grimmius Castiello 1770 1960 Montecalvo Irpino,Italy>NJ>PA TFierro Cavanaugh 1800 2011 ireland cav2baro Chamney 1753 2011 LAN,ENG>MDX,ENG>HAM,ENG>MN,USA>KS,USA pchamney Chaput 1884 1942 QUE,CAN>CT>RI agp18e Charleston 1880 now Dungannon, Tyrone, IRL>IL USA James dunbon Chasteen 1856 now JeffersonCo,IN,USA William M & Tillie Elenbaas grimmius Cheatham 1600 England Robert Lee Cheatham rhonda57 Chiavone 1891 Now Gangi, Palermo, Sicily to Phila., PA doylegal Chicken 1836 1913 ENG>ZAF Henry William bjgs Chicken 1874 1950 ENG>ZAF Sidney bjgs Choate 1849 now TX, USA rjctls Cima 1800 1900 Italy to MI to CO rivahgal Clark 1780 now England>New Zealand katej1 Clark 1870 1952 Ireland>CO>NJ,USA pgrowney Cleary 1850 present Clonmel to England scleary Cloutier 1821 1858 QUE,CAN agp18e Collins 1823 now NIR>NY>PA>IA,USA Mitchell & Ann Gravenor grimmius Colliton 1800 1950 Canada>NY billbush Connell 1847 1855 ire>OH dclogan Conroy 1800 1900 IRELAND, CHICAGO, IL USA Thomas b. 1817 m. Mary Croak granire Cook 1811 winterbourne, thatcham alephant Coons 1700 1929 Ky>Il>Mo shacks Coons 1700 now ger wfcoons Cooper 1800 1960 South Carolina gjcoope Cooper 1834 1917 ENG>ZAF Eleanor Elles Ann bjgs Cooper 1869 2011 ENG>PA>FL,USA Cooper/Smethurst boxer561 Cotterell 1800 2011 NY, USA AJ4OP Couche 1848 now Montebiard,FRA>NY>NJ,USA dcs Couver 1800 2011 France couver Craggs 1820 1889 England,IL dfscragg Craven 1772 1772 Dewsbury,WRY,ENG Ann married John Moss pamdick Crawford 1700 1805 Harford Co., MD>Fayette Co., PA>Ross Co. OH Genlaw Cribbes 1676 2007 BEW,GBR>AUS,USA,CAN,ARG philssc Croak 1770 1850 TIPPERARY, ILLINOIS,WISCONSIN, USA Balinure and Burnchurch,Ireland granire Cross 1922 WV jeanmay Crosswhite 1600 1850 England David Edward Crosswhite rhonda57 Crow 1751 1919 Virginia teaberry Cudworth 1800 1900 MA, NH, NY, IA Ebenezer b. 1801 married Sylvia Blood IAjewels Cunningham 1818 now PA>WI,USA jmpdjp67 See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

On 6/7/2011 12:03 AM, D. Stussy wrote: > "Wes Groleau"<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message > news:isk8bc$qic$1@dont-email.me... >> On 06-06-2011 17:21, D. Stussy wrote: >>> "Gerry"<everyday@sunrise.net> wrote in message >>> news:everyday-B63E89.14155806062011@news.eternal-september.org... >>>> In article<isjcuf$82t$1@snarked.org>, >>>> "D. Stussy"<spam+newsgroups@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: >>>>> "Wes Groleau"<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message >>>>> news:isif9d$nnn$2@dont-email.me... >>>>>> On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: >>>>>>> On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: >>>>>>>> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now >>> deceased >>>>>>>> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the >>> SS >>>>>>> offices, he would not show up. >>>>>> >>>>>> If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, >>>>>> he would not show up. >>>>> >>>>> That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit >>> continues >>>>> today, and that's a felony. >>>> >>>> And you don't think this happens? >>> >>> Not anymore as all county coroners now report deaths to SSA (or their >>> electronic systems that issue death certificates do that for them). >> >> Was that the case when this guy died in 1992? >> >> Can the county coroner force a paranoid widow to reveal the SSN ? > > All I can say is this: > 1) There's a space for it on death certificates. > 2) If she ever filed a tax return, she has the number. Even > married-separate returns required identifying the spouse's SSN. > > I was given what I was told was her social security number, but when I search under that nothing comes up either.

On 6/6/2011 8:52 PM, Gerry wrote: > In article<4ded9ab3$0$12504$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com>, > sharonf<me7@privacy.net> wrote: > >> On 6/5/2011 8:30 PM, Gerry wrote: >>> In article<4dec466c$0$12502$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com>, >>> sharonf<me7@privacy.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased >>>> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? >>> >>> They may be in the index but under another form of their name. You may >>> know the person as James Richard Smith, but is listed in the index as >>> J.R. Smith or just J. Smith or J. Richard Smith. When did the person >>> die? If it was before mid 1960s those who died then are not in the >>> index. If the death is recent it maybe no one has reported the death to >>> Social Security, and if they have it takes time for the data to be >>> entered and there is always delay in posting the database on the >>> internet. >> >> I have searched under several different forms of the name. The person >> died in 1992 so it really should be listed but it's not. > > Why not list the name of the person and any other particulars such as > birthdate& place, residences, and death date and place so that other > eyes can have a look. Good idea. Name at time of death: Elsie Wise Maiden name Elsie Janstrom. Was also Elsie Taylor from 1943 to 1950. Her first husband, George Taylor died in 1948. She was born 8/29/1921 in Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario , Canada. She died 12/28/1992 in Brighton, Michigan. Her family was originally from Finland and her birth name was Elsa Sanelma Janstrom. However I never heard her called anything other than Elsie. She was my mother's sister.

If it hasn't changed, retires of the railroad are not listed in the ss index. They are listed under the different railroad lines records. Sometimes hard to find. "ecunningham" <ecunningham@att.net> wrote in message news:4ded68de$0$23637$607ed4bc@cv.net... > D. Stussy wrote: >> "Wes Groleau"<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message >> news:isif9d$nnn$2@dont-email.me... >>> On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: >>>> On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: >>>>> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased >>>>> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? >>>> >>>> If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the SS >>>> offices, he would not show up. >>> >>> If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, >>> he would not show up. >> >> That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit continues >> today, and that's a felony. >> >> > As evidenced by recent freezer discovery in Florida!

On 06-06-2011 17:21, D. Stussy wrote: > "Gerry"<everyday@sunrise.net> wrote in message > news:everyday-B63E89.14155806062011@news.eternal-september.org... >> In article<isjcuf$82t$1@snarked.org>, >> "D. Stussy"<spam+newsgroups@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: >>> "Wes Groleau"<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message >>> news:isif9d$nnn$2@dont-email.me... >>>> On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: >>>>> On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: >>>>>> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now > deceased >>>>>> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? >>>>> >>>>> If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the > SS >>>>> offices, he would not show up. >>>> >>>> If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, >>>> he would not show up. >>> >>> That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit > continues >>> today, and that's a felony. >> >> And you don't think this happens? > > Not anymore as all county coroners now report deaths to SSA (or their > electronic systems that issue death certificates do that for them). Was that the case when this guy died in 1992? Can the county coroner force a paranoid widow to reveal the SSN ? -- Wes Groleau There are two types of people in the world … http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1157

"Wes Groleau" <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message news:isk8bc$qic$1@dont-email.me... > On 06-06-2011 17:21, D. Stussy wrote: > > "Gerry"<everyday@sunrise.net> wrote in message > > news:everyday-B63E89.14155806062011@news.eternal-september.org... > >> In article<isjcuf$82t$1@snarked.org>, > >> "D. Stussy"<spam+newsgroups@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: > >>> "Wes Groleau"<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message > >>> news:isif9d$nnn$2@dont-email.me... > >>>> On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: > >>>>> On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: > >>>>>> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now > > deceased > >>>>>> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? > >>>>> > >>>>> If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the > > SS > >>>>> offices, he would not show up. > >>>> > >>>> If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, > >>>> he would not show up. > >>> > >>> That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit > > continues > >>> today, and that's a felony. > >> > >> And you don't think this happens? > > > > Not anymore as all county coroners now report deaths to SSA (or their > > electronic systems that issue death certificates do that for them). > > Was that the case when this guy died in 1992? > > Can the county coroner force a paranoid widow to reveal the SSN ? All I can say is this: 1) There's a space for it on death certificates. 2) If she ever filed a tax return, she has the number. Even married-separate returns required identifying the spouse's SSN.

On Mon, 06 Jun 2011 13:23:09 -0700, D. Stussy wrote: > That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit continues > today, and that's a felony. Yes, it is.... and it happens all the time.

In article <4ded9ab3$0$12504$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com>, sharonf <me7@privacy.net> wrote: > On 6/5/2011 8:30 PM, Gerry wrote: > > In article<4dec466c$0$12502$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com>, > > sharonf<me7@privacy.net> wrote: > > > >> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased > >> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? > > > > They may be in the index but under another form of their name. You may > > know the person as James Richard Smith, but is listed in the index as > > J.R. Smith or just J. Smith or J. Richard Smith. When did the person > > die? If it was before mid 1960s those who died then are not in the > > index. If the death is recent it maybe no one has reported the death to > > Social Security, and if they have it takes time for the data to be > > entered and there is always delay in posting the database on the > > internet. > > I have searched under several different forms of the name. The person > died in 1992 so it really should be listed but it's not. Why not list the name of the person and any other particulars such as birthdate & place, residences, and death date and place so that other eyes can have a look.

On 6/5/2011 8:30 PM, Gerry wrote: > In article<4dec466c$0$12502$8f2e0ebb@news.shared-secrets.com>, > sharonf<me7@privacy.net> wrote: > >> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased >> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? > > They may be in the index but under another form of their name. You may > know the person as James Richard Smith, but is listed in the index as > J.R. Smith or just J. Smith or J. Richard Smith. When did the person > die? If it was before mid 1960s those who died then are not in the > index. If the death is recent it maybe no one has reported the death to > Social Security, and if they have it takes time for the data to be > entered and there is always delay in posting the database on the > internet. I have searched under several different forms of the name. The person died in 1992 so it really should be listed but it's not.

May 2011 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with B - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 5 June 2011 Babcock 1864 2011 NJ>PA>OH>CA themnme Bacorn 1710 1803 MA>NY>NJ>PA jajones Bacque FRANCE URUGUAY MONTEVIDEO COWBOY, SEPHARDIC ORIGIN PEREIRO Bahlkow germany missouri germany>st.louis bgkkbgkk Barnes 1760 1900 Frederick Co. MD>Holmes Co. OH>IA.CA Genlaw Barnett 1913 1983 S. Carolina to New York City SSL37 Barrett 1801 now Hobart Tasmania william B scotland aussie10 Barsky 1910 2000 Odessa, Russia>St. Paul MN 3 brothers, 2 sisters MyraSue Bassett 1771 now Sussex, England>New Zealand katej1 Beady 1816 Wicklow, Ireland>MD, USA tmpike Beaulieu 1830 1873 QUE,CAN>RI agp18e Beck 1300 1600 ENG>SCOT>IRL info needed: Norman settlement in Ireland under King James colonization The376th Beck 1600 1750 ENG>SCOT>IRL> info needed re:Ireland migration The376th Beck 1776 now Rowan Co. NC, USA Sentleger & Eliz Madden grimmius Beck 1800 1860 CANADA>ME>VT>MA Info needed: possible migration from Canada to USA The376th Beck 1800 1860 ME, VT, MA Info needed: David death/burial records and children The376th Beck 1800 now Rowan Co. NC> IN, USA Madden & Rebecca Hatley grimmius Beck 1825 1845 IRL>USA looking for ship log data fro David, Mary and 3 children The376th Beck 1836 now Davie Co, NC>IN>IA, USA Winfield Pury Scott CW POW grimmius Beck 1862 now Jefferson Co IN>IA, USA Oren W & Kate Elenbaas grimmius Becker 1870 now Trier, GER>Chicago, IL USA John, Catharina dunbon Beley 1851 1851 Besancon,FRA>NY>NJ,USA dcs Bell 1858 1872 Carcoar,NSW, AUS gvan Belt 1400 1800 Scotland gailsan Bender 1815 now NC>IN>KS>NE>TX,USA rjctls Bennett 1885 c1960 Kingsland,LDN>Watford HRT, ENG George William Bennett, insurance clerk, married KITE puffins Bennett 1886 now Jefferson Co, IN>IA,USA Oliver Perry & Eliza Bennett grimmius Bennett 1887 c1960 Chelsea>Fulham>Ickenham,MDX,ENG Thomas Harold Bennett, commercial traveller, married PERRY puffins Bennett 1908 1987 Ga>NYC SSL37 Bennett c1730 1901+ LDN,ENG>Chelsea,Fulham,MDX,ENG builder puffins Berman 1890 NewYork, USA Bosha Bernloehr 1885 1991 Marion Co.,IN>FL William J. & Pauline Wichman DJBH1949 Bilodeau 1700 present Me, N.H., Mass. bmbsmyth Bishop 1823 1876 Sussex, England katej1 Bishop 1850 2011 IN Charles Jack thelmab Black 1859 1915 IrontonCo,MO>FlatRiver,StFrancoisCo,MO,USA eirwin Blanco 1930 2011 El Salvador>Houston, TX, USA Libra182 Blattman 1845 2011 CHE>Shawnee, KS,USA pchamney Blizzard 1860 Now MD>PA strev43 Bloomer 1886 2011 ENG>PA,USA arrived in US 7/1886 boxer561 Bobkowski 1850 present POL>UK scleary Bobkowski 1850 present POL>US scleary Boddicker 1807 now Brilon Ger>IA Johan J & Elisabeth Jacobi grimmius Borkowski ca 1760 2011 Parishes of Jeleniewo, Suwalki & Becejly, Poland Borkowski/Pacewicz tellis Boudrot 1800 2011 massachusetts cav2baro Boyer 1857 now Van Buren Co IA>MO, USA Louis C & Ada Gravenor grimmius Braam 1875 now Nieuwerkerk Neth>OH>IN,USA Maatjie & Pieter Elenbaas grimmius Bradburn 1865 now Rush Co. IN, USA Thomas & Mattie Thicksten grimmius Brayden ?? 1911 Ireland to NB to CO rivahgal Brickle 1800 1960 South Carolina gjcoope Brown 1800 1900 Broome, NY steve38 Browning 1800 2011 NY, USA AJ4OP Brownley 1863 1897 Canada to S.C. PnyMc Bruner 1877 now Jefferson Co. IN, USA William & Cora Chasteen grimmius Buchanan 1800 Scotland>Canada tmpike Bullock 1803 1851 Rutlandshire>Essex, England katej1 Burlace 1835 1923 New Zealand katej1 Burrola 1914 guanajuanto mexico, CA, TX ddwriter Bush 1637 1920 England>MA>NY billbush Byrne 1816 Wicklow, Ireland>MD, USA tmpike Byrne 1837 1910 Wicklow, Ireland>MD, USA tmpike See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

D. Stussy wrote: > "Wes Groleau"<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message > news:isif9d$nnn$2@dont-email.me... >> On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: >>> On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: >>>> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased >>>> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? >>> >>> If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the SS >>> offices, he would not show up. >> >> If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, >> he would not show up. > > That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit continues > today, and that's a felony. > > As evidenced by recent freezer discovery in Florida!

On 6/6/2011 4:23 PM, D. Stussy wrote: > "Wes Groleau"<Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message > news:isif9d$nnn$2@dont-email.me... >> On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: >>> On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: >>>> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased >>>> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? >>> >>> If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the SS >>> offices, he would not show up. >> >> If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, >> he would not show up. > > That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit continues > today, and that's a felony. My father isn't in the SS death index but my mother is, nor is my uncle shown in the US veterans burial locator page, yet his wife, my aunt is shown, go figure. Jim A

"Gerry" <everyday@sunrise.net> wrote in message news:everyday-B63E89.14155806062011@news.eternal-september.org... > In article <isjcuf$82t$1@snarked.org>, > "D. Stussy" <spam+newsgroups@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: > > "Wes Groleau" <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message > > news:isif9d$nnn$2@dont-email.me... > > > On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: > > > > On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: > > > >> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased > > > >> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? > > > > > > > > If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the SS > > > > offices, he would not show up. > > > > > > If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, > > > he would not show up. > > > > That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit continues > > today, and that's a felony. > > And you don't think this happens? Not anymore as all county coroners now report deaths to SSA (or their electronic systems that issue death certificates do that for them).

In article <isjcuf$82t$1@snarked.org>, "D. Stussy" <spam+newsgroups@bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: > "Wes Groleau" <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message > news:isif9d$nnn$2@dont-email.me... > > On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: > > > On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: > > >> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased > > >> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? > > > > > > If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the SS > > > offices, he would not show up. > > > > If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, > > he would not show up. > > That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit continues > today, and that's a felony. And you don't think this happens?

"Wes Groleau" <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> wrote in message news:isif9d$nnn$2@dont-email.me... > On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: > > On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: > >> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased > >> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? > > > > If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the SS > > offices, he would not show up. > > If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, > he would not show up. That doesn't make sense - as that would imply that his benefit continues today, and that's a felony.

On 06-06-2011 07:37, Gene Y. wrote: > On 6/5/2011 11:15 PM, sharonf wrote: >> Why would someone who had a social security number and is now deceased >> not show up anywhere in the SS death index? > > If he never drew a SS benefit and no one reported his death to the SS > offices, he would not show up. If he did draw a benefit, and SSA did not learn of the death, he would not show up. -- Wes Groleau There are two types of people in the world … http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/barrett?itemid=1157