First, she could try to see if there's a local genealogical or historical society for where your family lived. There are also statewide publications, for instance, there's the Magazine of Virginia Genealogy, which is a publication of the Virginia Genealogical Society. You can probably check the various state GenWeb sites to see if they have statewide societies, and then within those states, check the county sites for more local societies. http://www.usgenweb.org/ If you belong to a surname project, then that project might welcome essays to be posted on-line to its members. Cathy Ken wrote: > Hi Folks, > > One of our family members, who functions as our chief genealogical > researcher, also has a gift with words. She's written a number of > essays relating to our joint adventure back through time, which I > believe are publishable. Can anybody suggest any genealogical > publications, or any other publications, that this type of material > may be submitted to? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. > > Ken

How can that be? I dont get it. Her divorces and such are easy. But when it comes to her life in Germany there is nothing! And as far as my brother Robert......also, ......nothing. Isnt that weird? And my search was going so smoothly for the past 27 years. Lol. But seriously, I dont get it. Its almost like she was purposely covering her tracks or something. I just discovered that she had been using a NY SS# in Miami , maybe to get work. Someone on another group found that the SS# belongs to someone in NY who is possibly still alive!! This could be my answer to where my brother Robert is and alot of other things. My only problem now is.... in this age of ID theft, how do I go about getting a name to a SS# without getting arrested? Its funny. I use to do skip tracing back in the 70's and I knew all the tricks. Now all the tricks are blocked because of all the fraudulant usage. Its a shame. But I digress. Would you know of anyone that does reverse SS# lookups? There might be a whole new name entered into the scenerio. Who knows? Id really appreciate any help you can give me at this point. Thanks Scruffy. I really, really appreciate it. Amy

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:34:35 -0800 (PST), Sir Creep wrote: > Well hell, if it's on WIKIPEDIA, it MUST be accurate! I don't think I vouched for the accuracy of Wikipedia although there have been some other threads on that subject lately. However it does know the difference between interment and internment. Perhaps you don't, perhaps you do. I don't really care. -- Terry

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 22:35:34 +0000, Charles Ellson <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> wrote: >On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:30:49 -0500, Jane Benn ><nospamplease99@rogers.com> wrote: > >>On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 18:57:48 -0800 (PST), thebushmanswife@cpws.net >>wrote: >> >>>John Fox of Cobourg, Ontaqrio, Canada. Husband of Ellan Christina >>>Farry. The Canadian cencus records show him as head of house in 1901 >>>but in 1911 the cencus shows his wife Ellan as head of house. Is their >>>any way to find out how he died? Thank you. Dee >> >>You might try the cemetery records. They may not have that >>information, but it can't hurt to ask. >> >>Cobourg is in Hamilton township, Northumberland county. >> >>http://www.islandnet.com/cgi-bin/ms2/jveinot/search >> >Unless there is a specific description of "widow" in a census it isn't >always safe to assume that the husband is deceased, he might only have >been absent from the household at the time of the census. True. I have found people formerly living with families but listed as residents in hospitals in a subsequent census. However, someone listed as a husband in 1901 is certainly dead by now, and I saw a few names in the Catholic church cemetery in Cobourg that might have been this family, so it is still a reasonable place to look, even if you don't know exactly when he died. -- Jane

"Terry" <Terry234@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1swmujt7jbx6i$.1hhaiatwuhzow.dlg@40tude.net... | On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:23:26 GMT, Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote: | | > The death certificate is generally filled out a 1 - 3 days after the death | > and sometimes later if an involved autopsy is required. By that time, the | > family has made the arrangements, and they know where the body will be | > intered. Also, people often make arrangements, buy burial plots, etc | > before they croak, or they have family plots. When my dad passed in 2005, | > all his arrangements were already made. All we had to do is fill out the | > death cert information, the Coroner signed it, and sent it to the state for | > whatever processing they do. We got certified copies in about a month. | | Much the same in UK - however did the certified copy show the place of | interment? - this is what I found interesting in the original post. | | In UK, although of course folks do make prior arrangements, you don't know | from the death certificate whether the deceased was buried or cremated and | certainly not where. | | Didn't mean to be picky on the interment vs. internment but didn't want to | confuse the OP! | -- | Terry The OP had "Interment" in the subject line and a typo "intenment" in the body of the message. Internment was not mentioned until McScuff made a typo on interment in his reply. But everybody is correct (sans typos) - interment is burial and internment is confinement. I can't speak for other parts of the U.S., but it is not unusual in our area for a death certificate to be issued days or even weeks after the State is notified of the person's death (and place of interment in most cases.) Funeral parlors usually handle that chore these days, but in days of yore, usually a relative or physican (or both) filled out the necessary forms. So the place of interment (actually called burial on our form) is usually shown on the certificate - it is likely only the name of the community, but sometimes the name of the graveyard is given. Birth records are similar - certificates issued several days, even weeks, after the date of birth. These days the hospitals do the paperwork. In the past, some births never got reported to the Vital Statistics people - the midwife or the family may not have been literate. I have a brother-in-law born in 1920 who did not have his birth registered. He had to jump through hoops to obtain a birth certificate before joining the U. S. Army during WWII. Affidavits from parents, witnesses, that sort of thing. But he finally got the BC. -- Henry Brownlee Houma, Louisiana

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:23:26 GMT, Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote: > The death certificate is generally filled out a 1 - 3 days after the death > and sometimes later if an involved autopsy is required. By that time, the > family has made the arrangements, and they know where the body will be > intered. Also, people often make arrangements, buy burial plots, etc > before they croak, or they have family plots. When my dad passed in 2005, > all his arrangements were already made. All we had to do is fill out the > death cert information, the Coroner signed it, and sent it to the state for > whatever processing they do. We got certified copies in about a month. Much the same in UK - however did the certified copy show the place of interment? - this is what I found interesting in the original post. In UK, although of course folks do make prior arrangements, you don't know from the death certificate whether the deceased was buried or cremated and certainly not where. Didn't mean to be picky on the interment vs. internment but didn't want to confuse the OP! -- Terry

"Sir Creep" <sircreep@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:305d1e02-c49f-4910-97b9-2882e554fdaa@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 17, 10:12 am, Terry <Terry...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:43:01 -0500, Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote: >> > Place of internment is the same as place of burial >> >> > "Unsprung" <peterblood...@joimail.com> wrote in message >> >news:13mcklca1r5if85@corp.supernews.com... >> >> What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This >> >> person >> >> died in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not >> >> listed. >> >> >> Peter >> >> internment is an entirely different thing and has nothing to do with >> burial: >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment >> >> -- >> Terry > > Well hell, if it's on WIKIPEDIA, it MUST be accurate! No, he's right. Interment and Internment have different definitions.

"Terry" <Terry234@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1pl9ldpp5prz5.jwt27z7kzv8m$.dlg@40tude.net... > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:42:49 -0500, Unsprung wrote: > >> What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This person >> died >> in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not listed. >> >> Peter > > Well the the obvious answer is to look it up in a dictionary (that's a > book)or use Google or even Wikipedia: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial > > I am interested that a place of interment should be shown on a Death > Certificate. The Death Certificate is surely issued prior to this event. > The place of interment may not even be decided when the Death Certificate > is issued. Is this common in the USA? I have never heard of this before. > The death certificate is generally filled out a 1 - 3 days after the death and sometimes later if an involved autopsy is required. By that time, the family has made the arrangements, and they know where the body will be intered. Also, people often make arrangements, buy burial plots, etc before they croak, or they have family plots. When my dad passed in 2005, all his arrangements were already made. All we had to do is fill out the death cert information, the Coroner signed it, and sent it to the state for whatever processing they do. We got certified copies in about a month.

"Terry" <Terry234@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1swmujt7jbx6i$.1hhaiatwuhzow.dlg@40tude.net... > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:23:26 GMT, Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote: > >> The death certificate is generally filled out a 1 - 3 days after the >> death >> and sometimes later if an involved autopsy is required. By that time, >> the >> family has made the arrangements, and they know where the body will be >> intered. Also, people often make arrangements, buy burial plots, etc >> before they croak, or they have family plots. When my dad passed in >> 2005, >> all his arrangements were already made. All we had to do is fill out >> the >> death cert information, the Coroner signed it, and sent it to the state >> for >> whatever processing they do. We got certified copies in about a month. > > Much the same in UK - however did the certified copy show the place of > interment? - this is what I found interesting in the original post. Yes. Graveyard only though, not the specific lot and grave. > > In UK, although of course folks do make prior arrangements, you don't know > from the death certificate whether the deceased was buried or cremated and > certainly not where. Most death certificates I have seen involving copies for the German side of my family going back to 1852 have shown at least the graveyard. The only one that didn't was poor Sarah. She did as a patient in Eloise in Nankin Township, Southwest of Detroit. Eloise was a large hospital that housed, among others, mental patients. Since none of them have been cremated, I don't know if they would show that or not, I suspect that they would though. > > Didn't mean to be picky on the interment vs. internment but didn't want to > confuse the OP! No problem.

"Terry" <Terry234@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:15zftzg0inbtw$.1axhig7emz66g.dlg@40tude.net... > On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:43:01 -0500, Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote: > >> Place of internment is the same as place of burial >> >> "Unsprung" <peterblood666@joimail.com> wrote in message >> news:13mcklca1r5if85@corp.supernews.com... >>> What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This person >>> died in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not >>> listed. >>> >>> Peter >>> > > internment is an entirely different thing and has nothing to do with > burial: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment > > Oops, had an unnecessary "n" in there. Interment = burial.

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:43:01 -0500, Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote: > Place of internment is the same as place of burial > > "Unsprung" <peterblood666@joimail.com> wrote in message > news:13mcklca1r5if85@corp.supernews.com... >> What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This person >> died in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not listed. >> >> Peter >> internment is an entirely different thing and has nothing to do with burial: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment -- Terry

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:42:49 -0500, Unsprung wrote: > What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This person died > in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not listed. > > Peter Well the the obvious answer is to look it up in a dictionary (that's a book)or use Google or even Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burial I am interested that a place of interment should be shown on a Death Certificate. The Death Certificate is surely issued prior to this event. The place of interment may not even be decided when the Death Certificate is issued. Is this common in the USA? I have never heard of this before. -- Terry

Hi Folks, One of our family members, who functions as our chief genealogical researcher, also has a gift with words. She's written a number of essays relating to our joint adventure back through time, which I believe are publishable. Can anybody suggest any genealogical publications, or any other publications, that this type of material may be submitted to? Any advice would be much appreciated. Thanks. Ken

Place of internment is the same as place of burial "Unsprung" <peterblood666@joimail.com> wrote in message news:13mcklca1r5if85@corp.supernews.com... > What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This person > died in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not listed. > > Peter >

<amybarb25@gmail.com> wrote in message news:600072fd-adbb-4a14-b704-e6aca077152f@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... On Dec 14, 1:25�pm, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote: > I found a divorce record for Johanna and Harold Block, Dade Florida for > 1952. > > � � � � � � Name: Harold Block > � � � � � � Gender: Male > � � � � � � Spouse's Name: Johanna Block > � � � � � � Divorce Date: 1952 > � � � � � � County: Dade > � � � � � � Certificate Number: 12779 > > <amybar...@gmail.com> wrote in message > >Hi Scruffy, Yes, I have all this information on her divorces and what not. >Thats really all I have. Except the immigration info. too. That was a >biggie. Thanks for checking it out though. I appreciate it. That's all the information that came up on Ancestry.com. I checked out Familysearch.org without any luck.

What sources do you have for the name? "Dan" <danchisum@gmail.com> wrote in message news:24d69ef3-8a79-40d3-8cd2-10262d7d185e@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > My 2nd Great Grand Aunt is named Licenda Jane Thompson. Has anyone > ever heard of the name Licenda? I was thinking that it should be > Lucenda, but the evidence I have says that it is Licenda. Could it be > a nickname for something else? > > Thanks, > > Dan

November 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with O - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 3 December 2007 O'Connell Ill Az Ill>Az>Ca>Or>Wa>Az roboconn O'Donnell 1571 1602 Donegal, Ireland Red Hugh O'Donnell The Fighting Prince of Donegal Bugzy O'Donnell 1834(?) 1905(?) County Donegal, Ireland Granddaughter, Jane O'Donnell Phillips Burns, born in about 1890 in Ballyshannon Co. Donegal, Ireland Immigated to Dorchester Boston, Massachusetts in about 1908-1912 Bugzy O'Hara 1840(?) 1935(?) Tubbacurry, County Mayo(?), Ireland > Danbury, Connecticut U.S.A. Son, William born in Ct. about 1882 Bugzy O'Leary 1800 1944 ireland>ne>tx maxbug O'Neil 1881 1959 Tipperary,IRE>NJ>NY, USA Michael O'Neill & Mary O'Donald artsy222 O'Neil 1901 1988 Union CO,NJ>NY>FL>TX, USA Mary Agnes artsy222 Odber 1778 1888 Manchester,ENG>UT,USA Louisa born 18 Aug 1823 navydavy Odom 1770 2007 Tennessee>Texas liz7 Ogden 1926 Massachusetts Edward Blake Ogden born 1887 Nova Scotia migrated to Ma. about 1926 looking for his children of grandchildren. Possibly still living Ruth Rowley? Mary Fortnam? John Ogden tidnish Ogden 1926 Massachusetts Edward Blake Ogden born 1887 Nova Scotia wife Clara and children Elanor, Ruth,Mary ,June, John migrated to Ma. about 1926 looking for his children or grandchildren. Possibly still living Ruth Rowley? Mary Fortnam? John Ogden tidnish Oke 1800 1900 Devon,UK paganoni Olah 1951 2007 Perth Amboy,NJ>FL>CA colah Oldham 1500 Present ? >MO>AR>LA Sallie and Robert Oldam/Dunklin Mostmc Oney 1800 1900 R.I. to KY Martha Oney JLGAMMON Orange 1800 1900 Ma;.NY. Lapeer Co. Mi. mother , Mary J. Phillips wed .1836 Sennett, NY Atvalen Oriley 1796 1946 IRE>CAN>ME USA MAINE BETWEEN 1825-1830 cmerrill Orpin 1640 1763 Stroud, Gloucestershire, England anita42 Ortiz 1860 present LAS VEGAS,NM>CO Phil amcoopaz Osburn 1564 now Cranfield, Bedfordshire, Zakia Osburn 1564 now Cranfield, Bedfordshire, England Virginia, USA Zakia Ostheimer 1800's Alsace-Lorraine>PA>IN SueSue11 Ott 1852 1920 MO Bible Record coym Otto 1910 -- Australia decendants originally from Germany ilmos Overfield 1700's 1850 GER>PA>KY Paul m. Mary Adamson moved to Bourbon Co., KY. Daughter Elizabeth married William Longmoor. vlwslmom Overstreet 1800 1940 glenmary>tn>ky>usa werecat Overstreet 1800 1940 glenmary>tn>ky>usa werecat Owen 1773 now Halifax, VA>Caswell Co., NC>Logan Co., KY>MO>Davis Co., IA>Cass Co., NE>Davis Co., IA>CA,USA Sherod Owen jpaul Oxford 1929 1929 LA>Jackson, MS Earliest info is my gg grandfather was Allen C. Oxford, h of Elizabeth Walker. They had a reunion in 1929 with their children, who married into the foll. families: Smith, Williams, McClintock, Givens, Beasley, Brooks. jennturi Oyer ? ? from Germany Ehrisman See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This person died in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not listed. Peter

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Id like to find more information about my family from Trinidad. Glouster Harris (grandfather) and Amelia Ventour (grandmother) were born in Grenada. Glouster was born between 1900-1910, and Amelia was 8 years younger. Glouster is of Scottish decent. There is rumored to be Portoguese on Amelia's side. They moved to Trinidad at a young age, they later met and married, possibly in the 20's. They had 7 children. Evelyn, Marjorie, Catherine, Daphne, Joycelyn, Alfred, and Elliot. Both Glouster and Amelia died several years ago. ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE GREAT!