Dee, if you go to the cemetery, you can find out the exact date of her death (and burial), and armed with that, you can order a death certificate - if that is what you are after. Depending on the cemetery, you might be able to get the information over the phone if they aren't busy and are feeling indulgent. Not much info is on the actual certificate, and you have to pay for it. Sometimes the cemetery records will have cause of death, and other tidbits. Local newspapers may have the notice obits as well - talk to your local library about sources for Cobourg newspaper archives. If you just want to see the registration information see here about how to go about it http://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/interloan/v-dintro.htm Sites like Ancestry don't have info on Ontario deaths after 1934. Incidentally, for whatever reason, not all deaths get properly registered. My mother died in the 1970's in a major hospital in Toronto, and her death was never legally registered for some reason. After my father died, I had to get proof of death certificates for her from the funeral home for estate purposes, since the lawyers discovered there was no registration for her. Mary G.

singhals wrote: > OP wrote: > >> What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This person died >> in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not listed. > > Everyone seems to have missed a typo (g); I kept waiting > for someone to mention it, but as of this date, we've got, > in order of appearance: > > Interment > Intenment > internment & interrment > inurnment > > So little time, so many ways to make a typo? Now, that's innurtainment. -- Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Government officials and activists flying to Bali, Indonesia, for the United Nations meeting on climate change will cause as much pollution as 20,000 cars in a year.

"jj206" <jj206@remoooooooooooovethisdrizzle.com> wrote in message news:1198032077.564762@bubbleator.drizzle.com... > Lesley Robertson wrote: >> "jj206" <jj206@remoooooooooooovethisdrizzle.com> wrote in message >> news:1196712119.120984@bubbleator.drizzle.com... >>> I was curious if anyone knew of the meaning of this grave marker symbol >>> ? >>> >>> http://thumb4.webshots.net/t/69/169/1/96/47/2988196470098462824QCZAXV_th.jpg >>> >>> Looks like a decorative harp and 13 leaf olive branch of peace, but was >>> curious if this was a unique harp or just a generic one. I searched a >>> few symbol websites and grave marker symbol websites also, but did not >>> find this particular harp listed or I missed it while scrolling perhaps. >>> >> It would help to know the country and century - context can make a big >> difference! >> It could mean anything from "peace" to "he was irish". >> Lesley Robertson >> >> > > This harp was found on a grave marker on Vashon Island, Washington State, > USA. Thomas H McNair died in 1918. > With a name like that, you have a good chance that he (or an ancestor) was irish. Lesley Robertson

Bazjaq wrote: > I believe John Foy b.1844c, his wife Sarah McCallum b.1846c both born in > Ireland, m. 10/8/1865 and lived in Glasgow, Scotland, along with Agnes > b.13/4/1866 their daughter, emigrated to America about 1872. I may have > found them living in Windham, Connecticut with 3 more children on the 1881 > census and some of them buried in St Joseph,s cemetery in that town. To > verify that this is the correct family, would some kind soul check for some > clues for me! Using the CastleGarden website I have found an Agnes aged 6 on > the ship 'Australia' on 23/5/1872 destination 7328? but can't find her > parents. > John,s parents are Patrick Foy and Mary Cavanagh. Sarah,s are Joseph > McCallum and Catherine Russell. I have also posted this on Rootsweb. > > Thankyou for your time. > > Bazjaq > Wish I could tell you that the entire Foy family was on the manifest for the ship Australia with Agnes, but she was the only Foy I saw and also the only Foy (or anything close) that Ancestry lists. The person preceding Agnes' name is Mary A. McLaughlin, age 38, and the person after Agnes is Mrs. J. Peffers, age 24 (or Mrs. I. Poffers??). As for the Foys in Windham, I found them on the 1900, 1910, and 1920 census. If you don't have this information, maybe it will help. 1900 - family indexed as FAY: John, age 54. b. May 1846, Ireland, married 33 yrs, immigrated 1868, dryer/thread mill Sarah,age 53, b. Feb 1847, Ireland, married 33 yrs, 9 children/5 living, immigrated 1871 William F. (son), 24, b. Aug 1875, CT, dryer/thread mill Alier (dau), 18, b. July 1881, CT Joseph (son), 17, b. May 1883, CT, farmer Minnie Spencer (grdau), 5, b. Sept 1894 CT 1910: John Foy, 58, Widower, b. Ireland, immigrated 1867, farmer/general farm Agnes Spencer (dau), 43, b. Scotland, marriage1, married 16 yrs, 1child/1 living, immigrated 1868 Minnie Spencer (grdau), 15, b. CT Joseph Foy (son), 25, b. CT, dryer/thread mill 1920: John Foy, 76, b. Scotland, immigrated 1880 Joseph Foy, 34, b. CT Obviously with time memories faded as to what year they immigrated. IMHO (and I'm just guessing here), John immigrated first and then Sarah and Agnes followed. Sorry I couldn't be more help. Good hunting, Tony

clifto wrote: > Allen wrote: >> Back a little over 50 years ago I was in the army with a fellow-draftee >> who said he was from Houma. I asked him how the oil business was going >> (Houma being one of the centers for offshore drilling in that part of >> the Gulf). He said "We don't have any oil around Houma". Questioning him >> further, I found that he was from Homer, in the northern part of >> Louisiana. (For the uninitiated, Houma is pronounced like Homer, but >> with the R being sounded.) > > And many Louisianians pronounce Homer like Houma, but with the R not being > sounded. > OOOOPS! I left the "out" off of "with". I'm afraid that rendered my post meaningless to those who didn't know how to pronounce Houma. Must proofread. Must proofread. Must proofread.... Allen

November 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with R - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 3 December 2007 Ragusa 1776 1786 Corleone, Sicily Palermo region cscoma Ramirez 1860 present CO Candido, Beatrice amcoopaz Ramsey 1878 1966 IND Mary Jane Whthorse Ramsey 1895 now Monroe Co. 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IA Sophia marrried Charles Westphal pinkie61 Rice 1990 2007 lemon country i love you!!! shanea Richard 1903 1967 mississippi grandfather lldavis Richardson 1800 now VT,USA>WI,USA sprite Richardson 1840? 1900? ENG>LOU,IRL married in Sunderland 1866 jeanr7 Rickard 1596 2000 Cornwall to Australia St. Columb Minor and Major peterric Riggs 1740 now NJ>PA>Kenton Co.,KY Isaac Riggs>James>William Acklin>Georgetta. Married a lot of Longmoors - many buried in Highland Cemetery, KY. vlwslmom Riggs 1920 present Iowa>Oregon Joseph Riggs, father of Leonard, Charles and Linda, grandfather of Rocky, Tyrone, Sherrie, Sarah and Jennifer sbunny Riley 1835(?) 1908(?) Ireland > Danbury, Connecticut U.S.A. Son, John H. Riley born in Ireland in about 1858(?) immigrated about 1878-81(?) to Danbury, Ct. U.S.A. Bugzy Rimel 1854 now TN>CooperCo,MO jos340 Rinehart 1880 2007 KS jhwker Rintel 1889 Trembowla, Galicia (Ukraine) Rose (Rosa, Reisl, Reisle) mieli Rishel 1807 1907 SchuylkillCo.PA,OH wlsark Risku finland calif 1952 urto Ritchey 1770 2007 Tennessee>Texas liz7 Rittwag 1795 2007 Europe variant brittwag Rittwage 1795 2007 Germany variant brittwag Rittwagen 1794 2007 Germany, Spain variant brittwag Rittwager 1795 2007 Europe variant brittwag Rittweger 1795 2007 Europe variant brittwag Rizk 1932 current Princeton, NJ Daughter of John E. Bolin & first wife. jebolin Roach 1826 now TN>IN>KY siemers Roach 1850 1880 al>ar>ms dahollow Robbins 1921 2007 NC/IL crcannon Roberson 1800 1980 Georgia Looking for parents or sibilings of James Robert Roberson born and died in Jefferson County, Georgia. Born 1873 died 1954. ralphie5 Roberts 1870 1937 FayetteCo,IL tigbounc Robichon 1770 2007 Eifel West Prussia, USA gregoria Robinson 1880 2007 Olathe,KS my maiden name ginicj Robinson 1902 1929 South Carolina to New York carlbear Roddick 1831 2007 dfs.sct>can jiki88 Rodriguez ----- 1976 Santa Barbara, CA Easy1 Rogers 1781 2007 DavidsonCo,NC>IN,USA natnan Rogers 1944 1947 SaskCan>Scotland went with mother after dad died trebbe Roggendorf C1850 1970 Germany>Buffalo,NY,USA mkocieni Ronald 1798 2007 Cummnock>Kintyre muneroy Rooney 1876 1918 missouri hvywt Rosales 1940 1993 el paso,Tx>lawndale,Ca lonely2 Rose 1735 1974 SFK,ENG>ESS,ENG>NSW, AUS kerju Rosenvall 10-11-19 Gunnison, Utah My Grandfather mlerose Rosey 1812 1852 PRU>ClaytonCo IA USA Nieman Rosinski 1434 present Bydgosc, Gdansk, (Pomerania), Poznan, Poland,>NY,USA pagiz Ross new york new york flatbrook 1880 wallings Rotton 1770 1948 NC>EdgefieldCo,SC present day line in Edgefield Co spell it Rauton. May other spelling variations bsj Rougier 1800 2007 canada,new york>massachusettes>california>texas> canadian french indian rougier Rowan 1800 now scotland, ireland illinois gram11 Rowe 1700 Now Virginia John Rowe born 25 Apr 1762 scott25 Rowe 1853 Now Pulaski KY>IN Jacob Rowe married Matilda Seares b.1872 in Pulaski KY colby2 Rowe NY VT Ill, Ks, Mo, Ca silkysno Royer 1664 1816 France>Germany>PA anita42 Rozek c1800 c1960 Kielczewice>Kamieniec,Poznan,POL>Buffalo,NY,USA mkocieni Rubinato 1878 now ITA>QC,CAN abramo Ruggirello 1863 1972 Corleone, Sicily cscoma Ruler 1715 2007 YKS, Eng LND Eng niftynan Ruler 1840 YKS Eng ON CAN niftynan Rumsey 1800 now Hart,Georgia elrod Runzler 1800 2000 prussia/WI trishatr Rupwright 1900's Now OH, FL BKharp Rusch 1848 Unknown Zozenow,POM,PRU,DEU>Chicago>DesPlaines,IL Frederika, Emily, Bertha, Otillie meli73 Russell 1700 present Kent, Eng Lookinf for George Russell born Lee, Kent married to a Sarah kimn Russell 1760 1999 ENG>NY>MO>CA PamelaGS Ruszel 1888 1970 POL>PA, USA born in Krzmienica, Poland (Galicia) gach Rutter 1800 Cur England to USA jru1225 Ryan 1865 2007 IR/IN/AR crcannon Ryan Ireland ?Ill Ks silkysno Ryczek 1880 1953 Pol>Rus>Chic>Cook>Il>USA winiecki Ryniec C1780 now Bialorarsk,POL>Buffalo,NY,USA Also as raniec in Poland mkocieni See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

In article <6433fb00-ccc6-4eec-b497-bf0ec9f7b1d7@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com>, FamilyMatters <lhh@fimark.net> writes: > We would like to announce a new group kin to the Genealogy category. > Family Reunion Announcements at Google groups. <snip> Only problem is that it's a Google group and not visible to those who use Usenet groups - the ancient and most often preferred newsgroup environment on the 'net. Sorry, but this is something I will definitely take a pass on. Bob Melson -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford

In article <s28m35-inq.ln1@remote.clifto.com>, clifto <clifto@gmail.com> writes: > Henry Brownlee wrote: >> "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote... >> | New Orleans is better known than >> | Houma, say. >> >> Hah! But Houma is better known than, say, Dry Prong, Cher! >> BTW, I had a friend in the Army from Dry Prong: Jerry Safarik. Big fella of >> Czech descent. > > Sure, everyone knows that song about land of the free, Houma the brave. > I'm sorry, but one good pun deserves another. You know, of course, that Tarzana, California, a suburb of Los Angeles, has many hundreds of miles of roadway, so many in fact that their marker crews are kept busy year-round. You might say Tarzana Stripes Forever. Snickerin' Ol' Bob -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford

In article <s28m35-inq.ln1@remote.clifto.com>, clifto <clifto@gmail.com> writes: > Henry Brownlee wrote: >> "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote... >> | New Orleans is better known than >> | Houma, say. >> >> Hah! But Houma is better known than, say, Dry Prong, Cher! >> BTW, I had a friend in the Army from Dry Prong: Jerry Safarik. Big fella of >> Czech descent. > > Sure, everyone knows that song about land of the free, Houma the brave. > Good one! Smilin' Ol' Bob -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford

Henry Brownlee wrote: > "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote... > | Allen wrote: > | > Back a little over 50 years ago I was in the army with a fellow-draftee > | > who said he was from Houma. I asked him how the oil business was going > | > (Houma being one of the centers for offshore drilling in that part of > | > the Gulf). He said "We don't have any oil around Houma". Questioning him > | > further, I found that he was from Homer, in the northern part of > | > Louisiana. (For the uninitiated, Houma is pronounced like Homer, but > | > with the R being sounded.) > | > | And many Louisianians pronounce Homer like Houma, but with the R not being > | sounded. > > I had a brother-in-law who pronounced it Hooma when talking to > out-of-staters, so they would not confuse it with Homer. That would only have confused me, but then I can just hear either of my two NOLA uncles saying both words. -- Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Government officials and activists flying to Bali, Indonesia, for the United Nations meeting on climate change will cause as much pollution as 20,000 cars in a year.

singhals wrote: > Can someone look at John GRUNDY b 1890, in Cambria co PA in 1930? Is > his wife's name May or Helen? Do they have a son b 1920 ? > > I just need to put a check-mark in col A for OK or B for Oops! > > (g) > > No rush, but thanks. > > Cheryl John Grundy Home in 1930: Portage, Cambria, Pennsylvania Age: 40 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 Birthplace: England Relation to Head of House: Head Spouse's Name: Hazel B Race: White Occupation: Foreman - Coal Mine Education: Military service: Rent/home value: Rented Age at first marriage: 23 Parents' birthplace: Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age John Grundy 40 Hazel B Grundy 35 Gladys E Grundy 14 Bernice A Grundy 11 Bernard N Grundy 9 Edythe E Grundy 6 John W Grundy 2 Lucinda J Bent 59 Weller C Bent 22

"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message news:gqfm35-9i.ln1@remote.clifto.com... | Allen wrote: | > Back a little over 50 years ago I was in the army with a fellow-draftee | > who said he was from Houma. I asked him how the oil business was going | > (Houma being one of the centers for offshore drilling in that part of | > the Gulf). He said "We don't have any oil around Houma". Questioning him | > further, I found that he was from Homer, in the northern part of | > Louisiana. (For the uninitiated, Houma is pronounced like Homer, but | > with the R being sounded.) | | And many Louisianians pronounce Homer like Houma, but with the R not being | sounded. | I had a brother-in-law who pronounced it Hooma when talking to out-of-staters, so they would not confuse it with Homer. Henry Brownlee Hooma, LA ;-)

"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message news:s28m35-inq.ln1@remote.clifto.com... | Henry Brownlee wrote: | > "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote... | > | New Orleans is better known than | > | Houma, say. | > | > Hah! But Houma is better known than, say, Dry Prong, Cher! | > BTW, I had a friend in the Army from Dry Prong: Jerry Safarik. Big fella of | > Czech descent. | | Sure, everyone knows that song about land of the free, Houma the brave. | | -- | I couldn't help myself. I just couldn't help myself. I had to do it. Chalk one up to da Clifto!! Very punny! Henri

On Dec 17, 8:39 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote: > What sources do you have for the name? > > "Dan" <danchi...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:24d69ef3-8a79-40d3-8cd2-10262d7d185e@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > My 2nd Great Grand Aunt is named Licenda Jane Thompson. Has anyone > > ever heard of the name Licenda? I was thinking that it should be > > Lucenda, but the evidence I have says that it is Licenda. Could it be > > a nickname for something else? > > > Thanks, > > > Dan Unfortunately I don't have much to go on. No B/D/M records. What I have is a typed letter from her granddaughter (I believe) that is very similar to what is written here: http://www.usroots.com/~jmautrey/pioneers/yoa/jthompson.htm I believe that they are in Tennessee from 1830's - early 1900's, but nothing is coming up yet anywhere I've looked. Thanks, Dan

chantellerock@yahoo.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me of a FREE site that I can use to look up > information about ancestors from overseas? Every site Ive looked at > has given me only american information! _Where_ overseas? Scotland, France, Finland, Australia, Brazil, Fiji???

Allen wrote: > Back a little over 50 years ago I was in the army with a fellow-draftee > who said he was from Houma. I asked him how the oil business was going > (Houma being one of the centers for offshore drilling in that part of > the Gulf). He said "We don't have any oil around Houma". Questioning him > further, I found that he was from Homer, in the northern part of > Louisiana. (For the uninitiated, Houma is pronounced like Homer, but > with the R being sounded.) And many Louisianians pronounce Homer like Houma, but with the R not being sounded. -- Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Government officials and activists flying to Bali, Indonesia, for the United Nations meeting on climate change will cause as much pollution as 20,000 cars in a year.

Can someone look at John GRUNDY b 1890, in Cambria co PA in 1930? Is his wife's name May or Helen? Do they have a son b 1920 ? I just need to put a check-mark in col A for OK or B for Oops! (g) No rush, but thanks. Cheryl

clifto wrote: > Henry Brownlee wrote: > >>"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote... >>| New Orleans is better known than >>| Houma, say. >> >>Hah! But Houma is better known than, say, Dry Prong, Cher! >>BTW, I had a friend in the Army from Dry Prong: Jerry Safarik. Big fella of >>Czech descent. > > > Sure, everyone knows that song about land of the free, Houma the brave. > GOOD 'un! Give l'homme un Jax, y'hear, Henri? (G) Cheryl

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message news:9rGdnZlii7KBH_XanZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@rcn.net... > Can someone look at John GRUNDY b 1890, in Cambria co PA in 1930? Is his > wife's name May or Helen? Do they have a son b 1920 ? > > I just need to put a check-mark in col A for OK or B for Oops! > > (g) > > No rush, but thanks. > > Cheryl Family is in Portage. Looks like wife's name is Hazel B. Son is John W., b 1928. Household Name Age John Grundy 40 Hazel B Grundy 35 Gladys E Grundy 14 Bernice A Grundy 11 Bernard N Grundy 9 Edythe E Grundy 6 John W Grundy 2 Lucinda J Bent 59 Weller C Bent 22 Joe in Texas

singhals wrote: > D. Stussy wrote: > >> "Terry" <Terry234@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:15zftzg0inbtw$.1axhig7emz66g.dlg@40tude.net... >> >>> On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 09:43:01 -0500, Scruffy McScruffovitch wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Place of internment is the same as place of burial >>>> >>>> "Unsprung" <peterblood666@joimail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:13mcklca1r5if85@corp.supernews.com... >>>> >>>>> What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This >>>>> person >>>>> died in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not >> >> listed. >> >>>>> Peter >>>>> >>> >>> internment is an entirely different thing and has nothing to do with >>> burial: >>> >>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment >> >> >> Actually, in some places, they literally are the same thing - e.g. "above >> ground burials" near New Orleans, LA (USA) - or any other place where a >> Masoleum is used as the final resting place on a regular basis. Those >> instances are both "burial" and confinement! >> >> > > > _Strictly_ for the record: New Orleans isn't the only place the above > ground burials happen; it's quite common all over South Louisiana, > because the water-table is less than 6-ft underground. (g) New Orelans > cemeteries are the best-known of the places because New Orleans is > better known than Houma, say. > > Cheryl Back a little over 50 years ago I was in the army with a fellow-draftee who said he was from Houma. I asked him how the oil business was going (Houma being one of the centers for offshore drilling in that part of the Gulf). He said "We don't have any oil around Houma". Questioning him further, I found that he was from Homer, in the northern part of Louisiana. (For the uninitiated, Houma is pronounced like Homer, but with the R being sounded.) Allen