On Dec 20, 8:24 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET> wrote: > "Sir Creep" <sircr...@hotmail.com> wrote in message > > news:7cbf8d64-9d2b-458d-944f-2f8aafbaaeb2@n20g2000hsh.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > On Dec 19, 12:49 am, Dan <danchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Dec 17, 8:39 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET> > >> wrote: > > >> > What sources do you have for the name? > > >> > "Dan" <danchi...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >news:24d69ef3-8a79-40d3-8cd2-10262d7d185e@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > >> > > My 2nd Great Grand Aunt is named Licenda Jane Thompson. Has anyone > >> > > ever heard of the name Licenda? I was thinking that it should be > >> > > Lucenda, but the evidence I have says that it is Licenda. Could it > >> > > be > >> > > a nickname for something else? > > >> > > Thanks, > > >> > > Dan > > >> Unfortunately I don't have much to go on. No B/D/M records. What I > >> have is a typed letter from her granddaughter (I believe) that is very > >> similar to what is written > >> here:http://www.usroots.com/~jmautrey/pioneers/yoa/jthompson.htm > > >> I believe that they are in Tennessee from 1830's - early 1900's, but > >> nothing is coming up yet anywhere I've looked. > > >> Thanks, > > >> Dan > > > Don't get scared of oddball names...they may well be what they appear > > to be. I have a GG-Grandmother who has the name Alwilda. Go ahead > > and google Alwilda....that is, search the entire known electronic > > world....and you'll get EIGHT (8) hits. And of those, I think the > > only other mention is a couple Latino names. Don't ask me where her > > parents came up with that one....but that's her name. And she was > > part(?) Menonite in PA....not the hotbed of Latinos in the mid-late > > 1800s. > > SC (Patrick) > > In my research I have run into the most "oddball" names in my Southern U.S. > family names. "Vicey", "Dicey", and "Jobin", to name a few. Apparently, > these were correct spellings. There was a few that got really creative, > like my Great, Great Grandaunt, Starlight Chafins.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - A secretery in one of the areas where I work is named either Starlight or Starlit Jones....don't know about the Olden Days, but in this case the creativity has crept into the African-American community, as in this case. Just an FYI, the name lives on!

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In article <aab1b15a-cd0c-4f3c-9d5c-059dafd2924c@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Mary_Gordon@tvo.org wrote: > I think human nature being what it is, every generation has this kind > of stuff in it - they just took more pains to hide it all in times > past i.e. they didn't talk about it, and skeletons were kept more > firmly in the closet. Mary- Some skeletons are kept more firmly than others. One ancester reportedly spent time in prison, wrongly accused of murder. There are at least three versions of that story in the family. One distant cousin was reportedly sold at age 13 to a bachelor farmer in his 30s. The family bible says they were married when she was 17. After a bumpy start, they went on to have several children and a long marriage. The one no one talks about is the (white) uncle who reportedly married a black woman! Fred

David Smith wrote: > clifto wrote: > >> David Smith wrote: >> >>> Is there anyone researching early Bedford, Westchester families who >>> may have this information out there? >> >> >> May be some clues at >> <http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=smith20070801&id=I338>. >> > > Those aren't clues. Those are my entries! :-) nice one David :-) Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Dan wrote: > On Dec 17, 8:39 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET> > wrote: > >>What sources do you have for the name? >> >>"Dan" <danchi...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >>news:24d69ef3-8a79-40d3-8cd2-10262d7d185e@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >>>My 2nd Great Grand Aunt is named Licenda Jane Thompson. Has anyone >>>ever heard of the name Licenda? I was thinking that it should be >>>Lucenda, but the evidence I have says that it is Licenda. Could it be >>>a nickname for something else? >> >>>Thanks, >> >>>Dan > > > Unfortunately I don't have much to go on. No B/D/M records. What I > have is a typed letter from her granddaughter (I believe) that is very > similar to what is written here: http://www.usroots.com/~jmautrey/pioneers/yoa/jthompson.htm > > I believe that they are in Tennessee from 1830's - early 1900's, but > nothing is coming up yet anywhere I've looked. > is thei your lot? The first wife of Joseph Newton THOMPSON was Nancy WARE and their ten children were: Dick, Willie, Florie, Rosie, Gussie, Gertrude, Earnest, John, Jessie and Lucy. please add the dates, places and occupations Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

chantellerock@yahoo.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me of a FREE site that I can use to look up > information about ancestors from overseas? Every site Ive looked at > has given me only american information! familysearch.org Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

On Dec 19, 12:45 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote: > Dee, if you go to the cemetery, you can find out the exact date of her > death (and burial), and armed with that, you can order a death > certificate - if that is what you are after. Depending on the > cemetery, you might be able to get the information over the phone if > they aren't busy and are feeling indulgent. Not much info is on the > actual certificate, and you have to pay for it. Sometimes the cemetery > records will have cause of death, and other tidbits. Local newspapers > may have the notice obits as well - talk to your local library about > sources for Cobourg newspaper archives. If you just want to see the > registration information see here about how to go about ithttp://www.archives.gov.on.ca/english/interloan/v-dintro.htm > > Sites like Ancestry don't have info on Ontario deaths after 1934. > > Incidentally, for whatever reason, not all deaths get properly > registered. My mother died in the 1970's in a major hospital in > Toronto, and her death was never legally registered for some reason. > After my father died, I had to get proof of death certificates for her > from the funeral home for estate purposes, since the lawyers > discovered there was no registration for her. > > Mary G. Thank you Mary for your help.

"Tony H." <punkyNOSP*M@insightbb.com> wrote in message news:24OdnS3raPx1p_TanZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@insightbb.com... > Bazjaq wrote: >> I believe John Foy b.1844c,>Clip< John,s parents are Patrick Foy and Mary >> Cavanagh. Sarah,s are Joseph McCallum and Catherine Russell. I have also >> posted this on Rootsweb. >> >> Thankyou for your time. >> >> Bazjaq >> > > > Wish I could tell you that the entire Foy family was on the manifest for > the ship Australia with Agnes, but she was the only Foy I saw and also the > only Foy (or anything close) that Ancestry lists. The person preceding > Agnes' name is Mary A. McLaughlin, age 38, and the person after Agnes is > Mrs. J. Peffers, age 24 (or Mrs. I. Poffers??). > > As for the Foys in Windham, I found them on the 1900, 1910, and 1920 > census. If you don't have this information, maybe it will help. > > 1900 - family indexed as FAY: > John, age 54. b. May 1846, Ireland, married 33 yrs, immigrated 1868, > dryer/thread mill > Sarah,age 53, b. Feb 1847, Ireland, married 33 yrs, 9 children/5 living, > immigrated 1871 > William F. (son), 24, b. Aug 1875, CT, dryer/thread mill > Alier (dau), 18, b. July 1881, CT > Joseph (son), 17, b. May 1883, CT, farmer > Minnie Spencer (grdau), 5, b. Sept 1894 CT > > 1910: > John Foy, 58, Widower, b. Ireland, immigrated 1867, farmer/general farm > Agnes Spencer (dau), 43, b. Scotland, marriage1, married 16 yrs, 1child/1 > living, immigrated 1868 > Minnie Spencer (grdau), 15, b. CT > Joseph Foy (son), 25, b. CT, dryer/thread mill > > 1920: > John Foy, 76, b. Scotland, immigrated 1880 > Joseph Foy, 34, b. CT > > Obviously with time memories faded as to what year they immigrated. IMHO > (and I'm just guessing here), John immigrated first and then Sarah and > Agnes followed. > > Sorry I couldn't be more help. > > Good hunting, > Tony Tony Thankyou very much, your information gives me a lot of hope that this is some of my family. Before John left Scotland he was a DYER in a cotton mill so maybe it was the job that took him to the US. Do the census returns that you looked at give addresses? sorry to be a nuisance. Bazjaq

Bazjaq wrote: > "Tony H." <punkyNOSP*M@insightbb.com> wrote in message > news:24OdnS3raPx1p_TanZ2dnUVZ_s6mnZ2d@insightbb.com... > >>Bazjaq wrote: >> >>>I believe John Foy b.1844c,>Clip< John,s parents are Patrick Foy and Mary >>>Cavanagh. Sarah,s are Joseph McCallum and Catherine Russell. I have also >>>posted this on Rootsweb. >>> >>>Thankyou for your time. >>> >>>Bazjaq >>> >> >> >>Wish I could tell you that the entire Foy family was on the manifest for >>the ship Australia with Agnes, but she was the only Foy I saw and also the >>only Foy (or anything close) that Ancestry lists. The person preceding >>Agnes' name is Mary A. McLaughlin, age 38, and the person after Agnes is >>Mrs. J. Peffers, age 24 (or Mrs. I. Poffers??). >> >>As for the Foys in Windham, I found them on the 1900, 1910, and 1920 >>census. If you don't have this information, maybe it will help. >> >>1900 - family indexed as FAY: >>John, age 54. b. May 1846, Ireland, married 33 yrs, immigrated 1868, >>dryer/thread mill >>Sarah,age 53, b. Feb 1847, Ireland, married 33 yrs, 9 children/5 living, >>immigrated 1871 >>William F. (son), 24, b. Aug 1875, CT, dryer/thread mill >>Alier (dau), 18, b. July 1881, CT >>Joseph (son), 17, b. May 1883, CT, farmer >>Minnie Spencer (grdau), 5, b. Sept 1894 CT >> >>1910: >>John Foy, 58, Widower, b. Ireland, immigrated 1867, farmer/general farm >>Agnes Spencer (dau), 43, b. Scotland, marriage1, married 16 yrs, 1child/1 >>living, immigrated 1868 >>Minnie Spencer (grdau), 15, b. CT >>Joseph Foy (son), 25, b. CT, dryer/thread mill >> >>1920: >>John Foy, 76, b. Scotland, immigrated 1880 >>Joseph Foy, 34, b. CT >> >>Obviously with time memories faded as to what year they immigrated. IMHO >>(and I'm just guessing here), John immigrated first and then Sarah and >>Agnes followed. >> >>Sorry I couldn't be more help. >> >>Good hunting, >>Tony > > > Tony > > Thankyou very much, your information gives me a lot of hope that this is > some of my family. Before John left Scotland he was a DYER in a cotton mill > so maybe it was the job that took him to the US. Do the census returns that > you looked at give addresses? sorry to be a nuisance. > > Bazjaq > > It's time for me to get new glasses...John's occupation on the census is DYER not dryer. Sorry for the error, but that's good news, right? There's no address on the census pages, but John, John Jr., and William are in the 1895 city directory living at 36 Ives, I assume in Windham Town. I can email you the census images, WWI registration cards for Joseph Foy and William Francis Foy, and the pages out of the city directory. If you want these images, let me know what email address to use. You're not a nuisance. I'm glad to help. Tony

Dee, you may have a challenge with Michael Fox as he was apparently born in Ireland, and as you may know, there was a catastrophic fire in 1922 that destroyed the Four Courts building in Dublin where many records were kept. It destroyed most of the the nineteenth century census returns, Church of Ireland parish records and the collection of wills. The fire made it a big challenge to trace ancestors who came from Ireland in the 19th century - particularly protestant denomination ancestors. I've got quite a few whose trail deadends at the point they hit Canada - i.e. can't find their parents names etc., when they were married etc. Mary G.

On Dec 19, 12:49 am, Dan <danchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 17, 8:39 am, "Scruffy McScruffovitch" <Scruff...@FAM.NET> > wrote: > > > What sources do you have for the name? > > > "Dan" <danchi...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > >news:24d69ef3-8a79-40d3-8cd2-10262d7d185e@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com... > > > > My 2nd Great Grand Aunt is named Licenda Jane Thompson. Has anyone > > > ever heard of the name Licenda? I was thinking that it should be > > > Lucenda, but the evidence I have says that it is Licenda. Could it be > > > a nickname for something else? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dan > > Unfortunately I don't have much to go on. No B/D/M records. What I > have is a typed letter from her granddaughter (I believe) that is very > similar to what is written here:http://www.usroots.com/~jmautrey/pioneers/yoa/jthompson.htm > > I believe that they are in Tennessee from 1830's - early 1900's, but > nothing is coming up yet anywhere I've looked. > > Thanks, > > Dan Don't get scared of oddball names...they may well be what they appear to be. I have a GG-Grandmother who has the name Alwilda. Go ahead and google Alwilda....that is, search the entire known electronic world....and you'll get EIGHT (8) hits. And of those, I think the only other mention is a couple Latino names. Don't ask me where her parents came up with that one....but that's her name. And she was part(?) Menonite in PA....not the hotbed of Latinos in the mid-late 1800s. SC (Patrick)

OP wrote: > What does "place of intenment" mean on a death certificate. This person died > in NH but the place of interment was VT. The cemetery is not listed. Everyone seems to have missed a typo (g); I kept waiting for someone to mention it, but as of this date, we've got, in order of appearance: Interment Intenment internment & interrment inurnment So little time, so many ways to make a typo? Cheryl

FamilyMatters wrote: > We would like to announce a new group kin to the Genealogy category. > Family Reunion Announcements at Google groups. > > This group is devoted to promoting family reunion planning, activities > and > Resources. > > We want to make this group the Internets prime source of information > for family reunion planners. > > As a member of the family reunion announcement group you have the > privilege of posting your upcoming family reunions here. > > To post to this group, send email to family-reunion- > announcements@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/family-reunion-announcements?hl=en I thought Rootsweb.com already had one of those groups? I'd just as soon NOT acquire another account just to publicize a biennial reunion. Cheryl

On Dec 15, 9:56 pm, Dan <danchi...@gmail.com> wrote: > My 2nd Great Grand Aunt is named Licenda Jane Thompson. Has anyone > ever heard of the name Licenda? I was thinking that it should be > Lucenda, but the evidence I have says that it is Licenda. Could it be > a nickname for something else? > > Thanks, > > Dan I believe Licenda is of Latin (Spanish/French) origin. If you know someone who is trained in classical literature, s/he may be able to give you some tips.

chantellerock@yahoo.com wrote: > Can someone help me find the parents of Michael C. Fox (1802-1882) > married to Cecilia Fox, nee Moran, from Ireland. Children are John > Charles Fox and William Fox. Cecil Fox of Cobourg Ontario is grandson > to Michael Fox. Help!!! Was Michael from Ireland too? Or just Cecelia? Does Michael's death certificate give his parents' names or a more precise place of birth? On the 1881 Canadian are they Protestant or Catholic? Did the local newspaper where they lived when he died run an obituary? I don't research Canada or Ireland, but I understand Canadian Archives are excellent. Also try http://www.worldgenweb.org/ and select Canada. HTH Cheryl

Joe Pessarra wrote: > > "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message > news:9rGdnZlii7KBH_XanZ2dnUVZ_hSdnZ2d@rcn.net... > >> Can someone look at John GRUNDY b 1890, in Cambria co PA in 1930? Is >> his wife's name May or Helen? Do they have a son b 1920 ? >> >> I just need to put a check-mark in col A for OK or B for Oops! >> >> (g) >> >> No rush, but thanks. >> >> Cheryl > > > Family is in Portage. > > Looks like wife's name is Hazel B. Son is John W., b 1928. > > Household > > Name Age > John Grundy 40 > Hazel B Grundy 35 > Gladys E Grundy 14 > Bernice A Grundy 11 > Bernard N Grundy 9 > Edythe E Grundy 6 > John W Grundy 2 > Lucinda J Bent 59 > Weller C Bent 22 > > > Joe in Texas > > The *good* news here is -- at least 3 people saw the same family names on that one. Thanks, Joe. Cheryl

ChrisGW wrote: > singhals wrote: > >> Can someone look at John GRUNDY b 1890, in Cambria co PA in 1930? Is >> his wife's name May or Helen? Do they have a son b 1920 ? >> >> I just need to put a check-mark in col A for OK or B for Oops! >> >> (g) >> >> No rush, but thanks. >> >> Cheryl > > John Grundy > Home in 1930: Portage, Cambria, Pennsylvania > Age: 40 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890 > Birthplace: England > Relation to Head of House: Head > Spouse's Name: Hazel B > Race: White > Occupation: Foreman - Coal Mine > > Education: > > Military service: > > Rent/home value: Rented > > Age at first marriage: 23 > > Parents' birthplace: > > > Neighbors: > Household Members: > Name Age > John Grundy 40 > Hazel B Grundy 35 > Gladys E Grundy 14 > Bernice A Grundy 11 > Bernard N Grundy 9 > Edythe E Grundy 6 > John W Grundy 2 > Lucinda J Bent 59 > Weller C Bent 22 OK, so now there's a 3rd col: ??! Thanks! Cheryl

Henry Brownlee wrote: > "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:gqfm35-9i.ln1@remote.clifto.com... > | Allen wrote: > | > Back a little over 50 years ago I was in the army with a fellow-draftee > | > who said he was from Houma. I asked him how the oil business was going > | > (Houma being one of the centers for offshore drilling in that part of > | > the Gulf). He said "We don't have any oil around Houma". Questioning him > | > further, I found that he was from Homer, in the northern part of > | > Louisiana. (For the uninitiated, Houma is pronounced like Homer, but > | > with the R being sounded.) > | > | And many Louisianians pronounce Homer like Houma, but with the R not being > | sounded. > | > > I had a brother-in-law who pronounced it Hooma when talking to > out-of-staters, so they would not confuse it with Homer. > > Henry Brownlee > Hooma, LA ;-) > (G) and I knew a guy from (censored) who said it OOm Even the Cajuns said he had an accent. ;) Cheryl

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