Mary_Gordon@tvo.org wrote: > Reunion (Mac based program) allows you to indicate illegitimacy - it's > part of a status pick list for children. Same pick list allows you to > indicate the individual as step kid, god child, adopted, stillborn, > died as infant, died as child, twin, family pet and all kinds of > stuff. > > My great grandmother (born in the 1870's) was illegitimate - her > mother had two children, despite never being married or living common > law (she kept house for her father and a cousin). No idea who the > father(s) were. The birth certificates actually say illegitimate, and > no indication of paternity. > Thank you, this is what I have wanted to find out. I thought there had to be a program that would allow for every 'contingency' - not that I want to use it. Lorna > M > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Fred McKenzie wrote: > In article <mailman.1470.1199291084.4586.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com>, > hlmw <hlmw1@telus.net> wrote: > > >> Do you know of a genealogy program that has a place to identify a >> person as 'illegitimate' with a click or would it have to be >> specifically entered somewhere in a program? >> > > I see that Reunion allows a couple to be listed as "Unmarried", > "Marriage" (with dates) or "Common Law" (with dates). If unmarried, the > offspring would be assumed to be illegitimate. Of course notes that > refer to a legal document might be appropriate. > > Terms like bastard and illegitimate are considered derogatory. It isn't > the child's fault, but the child gets the blame! I don't think use of > these terms are necessary for genealogical purposes. Listing parents as > unmarried should be sufficient. > > Fred > Thank you for your comments with which I agree entirely. It happens that I have seen a family tree printout with that word beside the name and am wondering why it was entered as such. I think that the suggestion already raised about a possible beneficiary being thus identified for legal purposes, might be correct. Lorna .To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

On Dec 28 2007, 5:43 pm, clifto <cli...@gmail.com> wrote: > singhals wrote: > > Henry Brownlee wrote: > >> Cher, I know this isn't going to be any help, but maybe it's a case like my > >> Grandma once told me. An old mule dropped dead while pulling a load on 1-3-2008 There are many reasons to speculate why it doesn't appear: death may have been particularly gruesome and the family and/or the law enforcement authorities may want to keep it private/hush-hush as possible, SSDI workers inputting the data make mistakes, death could have occurred in a different state, death information may have been omitted or reported incorrectly, etc. If you don't have any luck with the other suggestions offered, post the names and date information you were given here, along with exactly what you are trying to find out (do you want a death certificate? names of children and or siblings?, etc.) so that I can check some alternate sources to get the information you want, or so that some other alternative ideas may be suggested. keith345@hotmail.com GENEALOGICAL RESEARCHER (Tulsa, Oklahoma) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> Tchoupitoulas Street. The policeman assigned  to the incident wasn't too > >> keen with his spelling skills, so he dragged it over to Camp Street to make > >> out his report. > > > Oui, but hauling a dead mule 'round nawlins is a lot easier > > than schlepping a dead body around, even in nawlins. ;) > > You jus' ain' usin' the right lagniappe. > > -- > Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Government officials and activists flying to Bali, > Indonesia, for the United Nations meeting on climate change will cause > as much pollution as 20,000 cars in a year.

JD <jd4x4@<del.this>verizon.net> wrote: > You might have a look at GenoPro at > http://www.genopro.com to see if possibly it's the origin. > > I haven't used it myself enough to know the answer to your software > question, but it seems likely to be able to do that type of > relationship automatically. It appears to be flexible enough to enter > & display medical and social relationships, as well as biological > ones. I installed a demo copy (was eventually going to anyhow) and while there is not already a pre-defined "illegitimate" child relationship, it would be very simple to define one. There are however 23 pre-defined "union" relationships other than "marriage", such as "legal cohabitation" and "rape/forced" which can join two individuals and allow for a biological offspring so I'm a bit amazed that "illegitimate" wasn't a pre-defined option! It would be easy to define it, and selectable with a "click", btw. And, I haven't tried any of the reports or queries that might have produced a document as you describe, but I'm betting GenoPro would be a likely producer!

hlmw <hlmw1@telus.net> wrote: > Do you know of a genealogy program that has a place to identify a > person as 'illegitimate' with a click or would it have to be > specifically entered somewhere in a program? > Please do not misunderstand my question. I do not wish to make such an > entry in my genealogy program, but have come across a genealogy document > of recent origin that so identifies a person. > Lorna > You might have a look at GenoPro at http://www.genopro.com to see if possibly it's the origin. I haven't used it myself enough to know the answer to your software question, but it seems likely to be able to do that type of relationship automatically. It appears to be flexible enough to enter & display medical and social relationships, as well as biological ones.

Reunion (Mac based program) allows you to indicate illegitimacy - it's part of a status pick list for children. Same pick list allows you to indicate the individual as step kid, god child, adopted, stillborn, died as infant, died as child, twin, family pet and all kinds of stuff. My great grandmother (born in the 1870's) was illegitimate - her mother had two children, despite never being married or living common law (she kept house for her father and a cousin). No idea who the father(s) were. The birth certificates actually say illegitimate, and no indication of paternity. M

JD <jd4x4@<del.this>verizon.net> wrote: > I asked Ancestry help recently (last 2 weeks, maybe?) about their intent My brain must be in a time-warp. I looked and I asked the question on Nov 15! But, I just asked again on live help and they said that they "do not know, but have not heard of any plans to do that". I suppose I should have asked if they were closing the site, rather than just adding the CD-based data to Ancestry... but I didn't. :-(

Sherlock Holmes <hawke_eye_david@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > Hi, > Just letting everyone out there know that the Genealogy.com side of > things is being being made redundant meaning it will not longer be used > as a site and all those that have accounts with Genealogy.com ought to > ensure that they have an account with Ancestry.com > This means that all data that one can find at Genealogy.com at present > will is being moved to Ancestry.com > > As to when this is supposed to be completed by you will need to contact > Ancestry.com to find that one out. > > I do not work for Genealogy.com or Ancestry.com > I only found this out today 3rd Jan 2008 while in the process of > canceling a subscription. > > Hope this helps someone. > David Hmm. That's interesting! If you don't mind.. What exactly did they say? I asked Ancestry help recently (last 2 weeks, maybe?) about their intent to add the CD-based databases from Genealogy.com on Ancestry (to avoid subscribing to both) and was told: "We appreciate your message. Genealogy.com is its on date base and own company you have to buy in to both ancestry and genealogy to have both. If there is anything else with which we might assist you, please let us know. Derrelene Member Solutions Ancestry.com" Gotta love a company that gives you straight answers!

I don't know if anyone has said this yet, but Legacy has the "This couple never married" option. Donna

In article <mailman.1470.1199291084.4586.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com>, hlmw <hlmw1@telus.net> wrote: > Do you know of a genealogy program that has a place to identify a > person as 'illegitimate' with a click or would it have to be > specifically entered somewhere in a program? I see that Reunion allows a couple to be listed as "Unmarried", "Marriage" (with dates) or "Common Law" (with dates). If unmarried, the offspring would be assumed to be illegitimate. Of course notes that refer to a legal document might be appropriate. Terms like bastard and illegitimate are considered derogatory. It isn't the child's fault, but the child gets the blame! I don't think use of these terms are necessary for genealogical purposes. Listing parents as unmarried should be sufficient. Fred

On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 17:27:45 -0600, arethusa <denise@onlyaret.net> wrote: >On Tue, 01 Jan 2008 16:02:38 -0500, Jane Benn ><nospamplease99@rogers.com> wrote: > > >>I had a cousin who married a man named Lemmon (they spell it with two >>m's not one). >> >>What part of Canada were your ancestors from, and what time period? > >My Lemons have also spelled their name Lemmon at times. > >Baltis Lemon, son of John Lemon and Elizabeth Titman, was born in >Pennsylvania in 1796. Sometime before the death of his mother, he and >his brother George Lemon and uncle Jacob moved to Canada and settled >in the Whitchurch area of York County, Ontario. The families thrived >and started a community called Lemonville. Baltis was married to Mary >Mendenhall, a Quaker who was born in Fishing Creek, Pennsylvania. Her >family is well documented. > >Baltis and Mary were the parents of: > >1. Beulah Lemon b. 1817 in Pennsylvania, m. Jacob Baker in Ontario in >1842, d. 1910 in Whitchurch, York Co., Ontario. > >2. John M. Lemon b. 1819 in Pennsylvania, m. Christina Johnson 1843 >in Markham, Ontario, Canada, d. 1887 in Sanford, Scott Township, >Ontario, Canada. > >3. Julia Lemon b. 1820 > >4. Lydia Lemon b. 1823 > >5. Abner Lemon b. 1825 in Canada > >6. Isaac Lemon b. 1827 in Canada, m. Ann Hepzibah Tiffin Abt. 1850, >d. Goderich Township, Huron County, Ontario. (This is my direct line, >and his name was Isac Lemmon in the 1871 Canadian Census.) > >7. Elizabeth Lemon b. 1829 > >8. Mary Ann Lemon b. 1838 > >9. James Lemon b. 1840. > >Some of the children of Isaac and Ann Tiffin Lemon moved down into >Michigan after the death of their parents. One of these children was >Isaac B. Lemon and he was the father of my grandfather, Russell Tiffen >Lemon. Without the middle name of Tiffen, we wouldn't have been able >to trace these Lemons. > >I've been able to find all the descendants of Isaac B. and Eva Wilder >Lemon. I found them making cold calls. I think it's probably not the same family. The Lemmons I am connected to lived in Lennox and Addington County until the 20th century. I'm not sure exactly how old my father's cousin was, although her parents were married in 1900, but it was she and her husband who moved to Toronto, so I'm guessing it was somewhere in the 1920's or more likely the 1930's, since I know most of the houses in her neighbourhood were built then. It's great that you found them just by calling. I actually received one over 25 years ago from a researcher looking for information on my father's family, and was able to put her in touch with the two family members who knew the most about the family background and where (literally) all the bodies were buried. -- Jane

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On Wed, 2 Jan 2008 22:11:22 -0800 (PST), apologone@antoniobragadin.com wrote: >It is not just the knowledge to give us the Faith. Anyway, it helps >and will surely help after irrefutable events to arrange so as to make >that our Faith would be stronger and stronger. Who is the "our"? Methinks you're in the wrong newsgroup. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work) Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/

December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with C - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Cahill 1850 Now IRE>Philadelphia>Camden, NJ>Trenton, NJ Looking for more information on my Philadelphia Cahill ancestors. Thomas owned a shoestore and arrived from Ireland around 1848 but I do not know exactly when and where in Ireland he came from. jax1drc Cain 1863 1900s Ireland>NY>MI James, Cecil, Myrtle, Milton giner Cairone 1897 1921 Cesaro,Sicily>Catania,Sicily>NY idnyl Calcagno 1800 1910 Italy>DOM BEATRIZ CALCAGNO. MARRIED TO ELISEO HERNANDEZ. LOOKING FOR SPEC. DATES, SHIP NAMES, OR TOWN OF ORIGIN kfeliz Calcagno 1800 1910 Italy>DOM LOOKING FOR SPEC. DATES, SHIP NAMES, OR TOWN OF ORIGIN kfeliz Cammon 1915 1970 WA 2 children ernadkin Campagina 1901 Now Italy>IL>MN dazman6 Campbell 1792 now WV>OH>IL>MO 12 ch b ( marghh Campbell 1797 1913 PA>WI>IA middlet1 Cannady 1756 1805 Kingston, Rockingham, New Hampshire>Lunenburg, Essex, Vermont Looking for information before 1756 holdout Cannizo 1855 Alberona, Foggia, Italy,NJ AVC1443 Cannon 1930 2007 DS>WA, USA dither Cantley 1800 1900 Missouri to Texas sdhill24 Capetian 0939 0996 Of Paris, Isle De France FRA. (30 to 33 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His grandmother Bbeatrice De Vermandois(A Carolingian) & his son Robert II Capetian at 0972. Hugues (Capet, aka Robertian) King Of France, b. abt. 0939 > d. 24 Oct 0996 of smallpox, son of Hugues Magnus Robertian at 0898, Duke Of France and Hedwige De Saxony at 0922, Princess of the Germans. Ballygra Capetian 0972 1031 Of France FRA. (29 to 32 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His son King Henri I Capetian at 1008, his son Robert at 1011, his dau. Adaele at 1003. Robert II (The Pious) King Of France b. 27 Mar 0972 > d. 20 July 1031, son of Hugues (Capet) at 0939, King Of France & Princess Adbelahide De Aquitaine at 0952. Ballygra Capetian 1003 1079 Of Melun, France FRA. (28 & 30 to 32 greats) grandmother of Ballygra. Her dau. Matilda De Flanders at 1031 Queen of England. Adaele(aka Adela & Alix) Princess of France b.1003 > d. 8 Jan 1079, dau. of Robert II at 0972, King of France & Constance De Toulouse per LDS(aka De Provence & De Arles) at 0986. Ballygra Capetian 1008 1060 Of Reims, Champagne, France FRA. (28 to 31 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His son Philippe I at 1052, his son Hugues at 1053. Henri I Capetian King of France b. abt. 1008 > d. 4 Aug 1060, son of Robert II Capetian at 0972, King of France & Constance De Toulouse per LDS(aka De Provence & De Arles) at 0986. Ballygra Capetian 1011 1076 Of France FRA. (28 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His dau. Hildegarde Capetian at 1049. His brother Henri I King of France at 1008. Robert Capetian (Prince) b.c.1011 > d.21 Mar 1076, son of Robert II at 0972, King of France & Constance De Toulouse per LDS(aka De Provence & De Arles) at 0986. Ballygra Capetian 1049 1104 Of Bourgogne, France FRA. (27 greats) grandmother of Ballygra. Her son Guillaume IX De Aquitaine at 1071. Hildegarde Capetian (Princess) b.c.1049 > d.c.1104, dau. of Robert(Prince) at 1011 & Ermengarde De Anjou(Countess) at 1018. Ballygra Capetian 1052 1108 Of Reims, Champagne, France FRA. (27 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His son Louis VI at 1081. Philippe I King Of France b. abt. 1052 > d. 29 July 1108, son of Henri I Of France at 1008 & Anna Agnesa (aka Grand Duchess De Kiev) De Yaroslavna at 1036. Ballygra Capetian 1053 1102 Of Vermandois, France FRA. ( 28 to 30 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His daughter Isabel De Vermandois(Really a Capetian ) at 1085. His wife Adelle De Vermandois at 1065. Hugues(le Grand) De France(Really a Capetian aka Count of Vermandois) b.c.1053 > d.18 Oct 1102, son of Henri I Capetian at 1008, King of France & Anna Agnesa (aka Grand Duchess De Kiev) De Yaroslavna at 1036. Ballygra Capetian 1081 1137 Of Chateau De Bethizy, Paris, Isle De France, France. (26 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His sons Louis VII at 1119 & Pierre Capetian at 1126. Louis VI (The Fat) King Of France, b. abt. 1081 > died 1 Aug. 1137, son of Philippe I King of France at 1052 & Bertha Countess De Holland at 1054. Ballygra Capetian 1085 1131 Of Valois, France FRA. (27 to 29 greats) grandmother of Ballygra. Her dau Isabel(1) 1096 & sons Robert 1104 & Waleran(2) 1104 De Beaumont. Her dau Ada(3) 1104 & son William(4) III 1110 & dau Gundred 1117 De Warenne. Ballygra lineage to 4 of her children. Isabel(Elizabeth) De Vermandois(Really a Capetian) b.c.1085 > d. 13 Feb 1131, dau. of Hugues Count of Vermandois(Really a Capetian) at 1053 & Adelle De Vermandois at 1065. She had 2 Marriages: 1st Robert De Beaumont & 2nd William II De Warenne. Ballygra Capetian 1119 1180 Of Reims, Champagne, France FRA. (25 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His son Philippe at 1165, his dau. Alix at 1170. Louis VII King Of France, b. 1119 > d. 18 Sept 1180, son of King Louis VI at 1081 & Alix(aka Adelaide), Countess De Savoy at 1092. Ballygra Capetian 1126 1183 Of Reims, Champagne, France. (25 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His dau. Alice Capetian(24 greats), but she took her mother's name at De Courtenay 1160. Pierre(aka Peter) b. abt. 1126 > died 1183, son of Louis VI at 1081, King of France & Alix Countess De Savoy at 1092. His brother Louis VII at 1119, King of France. His wife was Isabella De Courtenay at 1148. Ballygra Capetian 1160 1218 Of Courtenay, Galinois, France FRA. (24 greats) grandmother of Ballygra. Her dau. Isabella De Taillefer at 1180, wife of John Plantagenet at 1166, King of ENG. Alice De Courtenay(Really a Capetian, she took her mother's surname), b.c.1160, dau of Pierre Capetian at 1126, Prince of France & Isabelle(Elizabeth) De Courtenay at 1148. Ballygra Capetian 1165 1223 Of Paris, Isle De France FRA. His son Louis VIII at 1187. His sister Alix at 1170. Philippe Auguste II King Of France, b. 22Aug 1165 > d. 14 July 1223, son of Louis VII at 1119, King Of France & Adaele(Alix) Countess Of Champagne at 1140. Ballygra Capetian 1170 1221 Of Champage, France FRA. (24 greats) grandmother of Ballygra. Her daughter Marie Ponthieu at 1199. Alix Capetian b.c.1170 > d.1221, daughter of Louis VII at 1119, King Of France & Adaele(aka Alix & Adela), Countess of Champagne at 1140 per LDS. Ballygra Capetian 1187 1226 Of Paris, Isle De France FRA. His son Robert I at 1216 surname De Artois. Louis VIII (The Lion) King Of France, b. 3 Sept 1187 > d. 8 Nov 1226, son of King Philippe Auguste II at 1165 & Isabelle De Hainault at 1170. Ballygra Capetian 1216 1249 Of Paris, Isle De France FRA. His daughter Blanche at 1248. Robert I Count Of Artois (Really a Capetian), b. Sept 1216 > d. 8 Feb 1249, son of Louis VIII Capetian at 1187, King Of France & Blanca Alphonsa Princess De Castile at 1188. Ballygra Capetian 1248 1302 Of Arras, France FRA. She marr. Edmund Plantagenet at 1244. Their son Henry Plantagenet at 1281. Blanche De Artois(sic), (She was really a Capetian), b.1248 > d. 2 May 1302, dau of Robert I Count of Artois at 1216,(His father Capetian) & Mahaut(Maud) Princess De Brabant at 1224. Ballygra Carlisle 1732 1955 Lincolnshire>Utah famhugz Carlsen 1811 1881? AA,NOR Andreas Carlsen of Høvåg elarson Carmody 1830 1920 IRELAND TO AUSTRALIA TURNKEY/WARDER hobitsky Carper 1850 1963 Va--Carter Co, Ky. sniper1 Carr 1870 now VT,USA>MI,USA Corpe Carroll 1826 1877 Offlay (Kings)IRL>CA, USA Theresa m Coughlan DLGordon Carte 1834 now CountyFermanagh, IRE>USA jstine42 Carter 1800 1900 Georgia to Texas sdhill24 Carter 1805 2007 Va>Ky>Mo Cumberland Co. KY to St. Clair Co. MO RomaW Casbohm 1800 present Pa>Germany Christian, Father Joseph kckatkin Case 1856 2007 Canada>FL,USA gemmi73 Casey 1871 now ROS,IRL>Canaan, CT, USA bhastie Casper 1720 present NJ>NY>MD JamCas Cassick 1864 2007 1895-1896 current spelling of name bcass63 Casteel 1820 2000 Ky>Ks, USA Looking for info on Isaac Casteel and Lucy Roberts bjchet Catalano 1848 2007 Sicily or Calabria byeoman Centorrino 1880 now Messina,SIC>Boston MA,USA Family name recorded as Centorino in USA vincep6 Chadwell 1800 current TN> California cv4linda Chaffee 1635 1873 ENG>MASS>WESTMINSTER VT> HERKIMER NY>ST. CLAIR MI Polly Chaffee married John Justine 1814 Fairfield, Herkimer County New York DRJ1229 Chalkley 1690 now Hertfordshire>all England GurdONS Chambers 1810 Now Ireland>Missouri,USA guymowen Champion ----- 1997 ENG>USA champ89 Chandler 1200 now Worldwide One-Name Study dickchan Chantler 1200 now Worldwide One-Name Study dickchan Chapman 1787 1901 Derbyshire to Yorkshire almarl Chapman 1898 1920 England, NY, VT, NH married Alice Abear FLawes Chappell 1770 1940 Cleburne AL. & Polk GA Robert b. before 1800 leyhok Chard 1600 2000 WHITCHURCH>HANTS>ENGLAND jimnorth Charpie 1880 2007 IN dzc Cheatham 1800 1950? KY>MO Lewis> cetuo67 Cheers 1759 Now Abington,Berkshire,England>Aust Convict Tarranne Chilcott 1750 1900 england mountie Childress 1799 Goochland Co,Va-Kentucky-Missouri John Wesley Childress-1799 photolog Chilton 1600 1900 England>?>Tennessee>Kentucky>Indiana My great-Grands are Edgar and Henretta ElizWood Chinn 1660 2007 Birmingham, England calpurni Christian 1750 1850 NY clingren Christman 1877 1921 Ky jalapeno Ciaramitaro Sicily Detroit Terrasini,ITL>ON,CAN>MI,USA Flavia, b.1924 thehmo Clark 1632 1781 NJ pwcase Clark 1800 2007 CA guthriej Clayton 1950 2007 england family perree Claywell 1776 1876 KY Cumberland Co. KY RomaW Cobb unknown 2004? FL>GA Helen Macks- first wife of Arthur Macks remarried unknown husband with last name Cobb greyhair Coble 1375 2007 Switzerland>n.c.>Tenn. stjmary Cochrane 1790 1830 Strathmiglo>Torryburn, FIF jamacca Cockayne 1784 1901 Derbyshire to Yorkshire almarl Colburn 1900 new mexico dustin grate112 Cole 1780 1956 Ky.>Va.>Kans.>Mo. guymowen Cole 1832 2007 WashDC or Md>Ia>Mo Shockley/Cole line RomaW Collier 1775 1891 MD>KY>ARK, USA yester Collins any 1960 UK mj84rd Colombe 1825 present SD Lakota Indians jsweet7 Colvert unknown now AL Frank & Jeanette Colvert ; two children Artina (d) & Frank (Bubba) (s) greyhair Compton 1901 2007 Ky Mo IN Tcdcco Conner 1900 present Glas,Scot janeygee Connors 1905 now MI>IL>CA>MN Pearl ralphjo Conover NJ IN 1839 Ralph R. and Elnoe Snedeker Conover brought their family from Newark, Essex Co., NJ to Vigo Co., Indiana Fairborn Cook 1500 2007 England>NY>MI>NM,USA ccook3 Cooper 1813 1945 KY>IL>MO RomaW Coopwood 1732 1993 ENG>OrangeCo.VA>TN>AL Traced back to Benjamin Coopwood Died Oct 1809 champ89 Coover 1859 2007 CumberlandCo,PA,USA buckeyek Corbett 1550 1990 Hereford reteptte Corbin 1740 1893 Va.>Ky. >ScotlandCo.Mo. guymowen Cormack 1700 Now CAI,SCT trish01 Corpe 1753 now SOM,ENG>ON,CAN>IL,USA Corpe Corral 1930 1975 MEX>LA,USA Sassadri Corrao 1881 Vita, Sicily, NJ AVC1443 Corvello Açores Brasil 1864 Corvello Cottle 1797 1850 Barbados to St. Vincent Origin ofCottle from St. Vincent ECSTV Cotton 1600 2007 Germany abbie12 Coughlan 1827 now Co Cork IRL>CA, USA Michael m Carroll DLGordon Coupe 1800 1891 ENG>ZAF>ENG dave33 Courtenay 1329 1364/72 Of Haccombe, Devonshire, DEV,ENG. (18 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. Lineage to Edward I King of England thru his mother Margaret De Bohun at 1311. His son Hugh at 1360. Edward b.c. 1329 > died c. 1364/1372, son of Hugh De Courtenay at 1303 & Margaret De Bohun at 1311. Ballygra Courtenay 1360 1425 Of Haccombe, Devonshire, DEV,ENG. (17 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. Lineage to Edward I King of England thru his father Edward at 1329 per LDS. Hugh's daughter is Margaret Courtenay at 1381. Hugh b. abt. 1360 > died 5 Mar 1425, son of Edward Courtenay at 1329 & Emmeline Dawnay at 1328. Ballygra Courtenay 1381 1381 Of Cornwall, CON,ENG. (16 greats) grandmother of Ballygra. Lineage to Edward I King of England thru her father Hugh at 1360. Margaret's son is William Granville at 1395. Margaret b. abt. 1381 > d. Unknown, dau of Hugh Courtenay at 1360 & Maud Beaumont at 1356. Ballygra Courtenay 1392 1392 Cornwall, CON,ENG. Margaret & Theobald's son is William Granville at 1395. Margaret marr. Theobald Granville at 1367. Ballygra Courtney 1800 now Harrison Co., KY, Ohio Co, IN bwinings Cousens 1848 1898 Langport Somerset>Sydney>Coonamble Ebenezer, real birthdate 1848, spelling should be Cozens, Parents Samuel Cozens 1820 Mary (listed as Elizabeth G)Gumbrell 1814 cozens Cousens 1848 1898 Langport Somerset>Sydney>Coonamble Real Birthdate 1848, spelling should be Cozens, Parents Samuel Cozens 1820 Mary (listed as Elizabeth G)Gumbrell cozens Cowell pa ok pa. oh,in,ok dojocow Cowells 1700 now new york to Iowa need to know names wolves56 Cowling 1800 1900 London>PA pawliv Cox 1800 2000 KY>ARK>FL sportfan Coy 1800 1900 MA>VA>NC>FL Looking for more information on Amasiah Coy who eventually settled in Nassau County, FL. jax1drc Coyle 1850 1910 IRE > NJ, USA koha Cozens 1820 Wilton,Wiltshire>Dorset>Australia Samuel, Baptist Pastor, Blandford Forum link Cozens Crabtree 1829 1911 TN>MO Medlin & Crabtree, Wilson & Davidson Co. TN to Benton & St. Clair Co. 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hlmw <hlmw1@telus.net> wrote in news:mailman.1480.1199300991.4586.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com: > Bruce Remick wrote: >> >> If you don't want to enter an illegitimate birth directly into your >> program, why not simply cite it in the notes for the father or >> mother. Although it may be an illegitimate child according to civil >> law, it is still the legitimate child of the woman who bore it and of >> the man who fathered it. Your program notes can be easily edited if >> necessary, depending upon who you might want to pass the information >> to. Rather than the "legitimate child" (which has a specific legal meaning) wouldn't you be better off referring to "the actual child" here of two specific parents? I agree with you that the notes section of the program would be a good place to indicate this. Whether the parents of the child are married to each other might well be of some historical importance. I'm working on a project now involving German church records in Charleston SC. Until I started reading the records more closely, I realized I had previously missed important words like "ledig" (single) after the parents' names. > I am wondering why a person has been indentified as 'illegitimate' for > legal purposes. I would imagine that inheritance might be one reason for a legal identification. ---- saki@ucla.edu http://sakionline.net/familypage

On Dec 24 2007, 4:15 pm, Mary_Gor...@tvo.org wrote: > Ohhh,  Dee, found something very interesting on familysearch.org in an > ancestral file - a woman who is almost certainly your auntVienna. Her > parents names are not given but she is listed as having been born > November 18 1934 in Ontario, and she died 29 March 1960 in Stroud > Ontario. She was married to a person whose name is not given because > he is apparently living, but his surname is Dike. His father's name > was Anthony Everett Dike and his mother was Nettie Yake. There are > three children listed, all details supressed because they are living. > > M A huge 'thank you'!!! Dee

Bruce Remick wrote: > "hlmw" <hlmw1@telus.net> wrote in message > news:mailman.1470.1199291084.4586.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com... > >> Do you know of a genealogy program that has a place to identify a person >> as 'illegitimate' with a click or would it have to be specifically entered >> somewhere in a program? >> Please do not misunderstand my question. I do not wish to make such an >> entry in my genealogy program, but have come across a genealogy document >> of recent origin that so identifies a person. >> Lorna >> >> > > If you don't want to enter an illegitimate birth directly into your program, > why not simply cite it in the notes for the father or mother. Although it > may be an illegitimate child according to civil law, it is still the > legitimate child of the woman who bore it and of the man who fathered it. > Your program notes can be easily edited if necessary, depending upon who you > might want to pass the information to. > > Bruce > I am wondering why a person has been indentified as 'illegitimate' for legal purposes. Thanks, Lorna > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

"hlmw" <hlmw1@telus.net> wrote in message news:mailman.1470.1199291084.4586.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com... > Do you know of a genealogy program that has a place to identify a person > as 'illegitimate' with a click or would it have to be specifically entered > somewhere in a program? > Please do not misunderstand my question. I do not wish to make such an > entry in my genealogy program, but have come across a genealogy document > of recent origin that so identifies a person. > Lorna > If you don't want to enter an illegitimate birth directly into your program, why not simply cite it in the notes for the father or mother. Although it may be an illegitimate child according to civil law, it is still the legitimate child of the woman who bore it and of the man who fathered it. Your program notes can be easily edited if necessary, depending upon who you might want to pass the information to. Bruce