"James A. Doemer" <ckdbigtoeNOSPAM@comcast.net> wrote in message news:OrCdnbVnt9l2rxnanZ2dnUVZ_g6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > In News > 198d97ae-d859-44a5-9b85-e10ac512bb13@m77g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,, JDLail > at JDLail@yahoo.com, typed this: > >> I have a case where one of my family (Confederate) from Georgia was >> captured in the Civil War, taken to >> Fort Columbus (NY City area), took the oath of allegiance, and was >> released in Sept 1863. He never came >> home. His four children were scattered between the paternal >> grandparents and the mother. >> >> However a man with his name shows up in Northern New Jersey within >> months of his 1863 release . He >> married and remained in Morris Co. NJ until his death in 1926. So its >> reasonable to suspect that these >> are the same guy. The surname here (Lail) was exceedingly rare at that >> point in time and the given name >> (James) had never been used before in the family, >> >> This James appeared in 5 New Jersey census records from 1870-1920. In >> all cases he lists his birthplace >> as Georgia. In all cases but one he lists his fathers birthplace as >> Georgia as well. The exception being >> 1920 when he gave it as North Carolina. And finally In all cases but >> one he gives a birth year ca. 1846-7. >> The exception being 1880 when he gave 1836-7 for his birth. >> >> The James missing from my family was born 1834-7 in Tennessee but was >> raised in Georgia. The family >> moved there ca. 1842. His father was born in NC. So do I have enough >> proof ? Thanks. > > I would say that your evidence is very strong. There is seldom any such > thing as slam-dunk proof when you're dealing with records that old. This is one case where, if there are males with direct descent from the apparent 2 Jameses, y chromosome DNA analysis would provide a large bit of help. It will at least show that they have a common male ancestor. Lesley Robertson

On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 14:20:46 -0600, clifto wrote: > I hate to say it, but what I've seen of LDS so far is highly disappointing. > What little tiny fragments of my family tree I've found there are sparse > and inaccurate. I've pretty much stopped using their site as a resource. The IGI and their associated Pedigree and Ancestral files are a waste of time because of the inaccuracies and outright fantasy entries. It's a resource I rarely ever use now either. It is only one part of their holdings though, albeit the best known. -- http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/

December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with H - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Hager 1700's Germany to NC:Lincoln Co and Iredell Fairlite Hair 1700's N.Ireland to Virginia and NC John, Stokes, Jacob, Fairlite Haire 1700's N.Ireland to Virginia and NC John, Stokes, Jacob, Fairlite Haire 1830 1912 unknown Died in AR ljmills1 Hall 1754 present NY>Saginaw Co.MI Norton, Caleb, Parker giner Hall 1769 now CAV,IRL ronprice Hall 1867 now warwickshire>Canada pember11 Hallat 1800 present St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall mhsally Hallatt 1800 present St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall mhsally Hallett 1650 1900 new england to new brunswick joborne Hallett 1800 present St. Just in Roseland, Cornwall mhsally Halvorson 1850 Now IA, USA http://kimzplace.info kboe Hamersley 1828 1980 IN>OK orlar Hamilton 1800 Now Gvn,SCT>Lnk Co.>Perth Co.,ON,CAN keimly Hammes 1885 now Gau-Odernheim>Framersheim,RHE-PFA,DEU Valentin>Gretel wilukafr Hampson 1848 2007 England>Ontario Canada pember11 Handzo 1868 now SVK>PA jaschr71 Hanes 1841 now MO,USA looking for the descends of William and Mary who son was Chas (b 1869) coxka Harada 1876 Southern Division,JPN>Seattle, WA, USA dms0725 Hardigree 1760 1830 SC>GA Frances--parents leyhok Harmon 1877 1956 HarrisonCo,OH>StarkCo,OH,USA buckeyek Harper 1810 now Brundidge AL>OK,USA Eliza Harper and family originated from a native American tribe. kdlsjb Harper 1869 2007 Springfield, IL>Lorena, TX wife of Loc M. 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Elisha or Elijah, Daniel Fletcher Fairlite Harris 1800 canada? warren grate112 Harrison 1946 1950 Maries Co,MO>Belleville, IL> Francis M. m Mary E. ? mag7885 Harrup 1859 present NC>VA Southampton County and surrouding VA counties dbj11909 Hart 1750 GER.>PA. cunningw Hart 1750 1850 Ohio>Indiana>Iowa wmbauman Hartley 1878 now PRUS>IA>MN famhugz Hartman mid 1800 Baden>NY GREGOR Hassell 1650 now Kent, England GurdONS Hasslinger 1856 1932 Germany>BaltimoreMD>PA,USA buckeyek Hastie 1790 now DFS,SCT>ON,CAN>Detroit, MI,USA bhastie Hatton 1800 now Ireland>Ont.Canada pember11 Haugan 1881 1882 Norway Sidgal haugan Haun 1845 1889 Germany>WI>IA roseann6 Haun 1846 1925 Germany>WI>IA>NE roseann6 Hauptvogel 1872 1940 BOH,AUT>DEU Meronitz, Schichhof, Mukow kjako Havel 1880 2007 CSK>NJ,USA>SC Weno, Joseph hedy434 Hawkins 1710 1782 Mo> Va>S.C. or N.C need help with John Prince hawkwind Hawliczek 1879 now Muschau,CZE>WIE,AUT nzvienna Hawliczek 1879 now Muschau,CZE>WIE,AUT Veronika Hawliczek (possibly from Bergen,CZE) married Konrad Neugebauer (b. 1878) & possibly had 3 daughters & 4 sons. Son, Konrad (b.1903) married Elisabeth Rimmel (b. 1906) & had 2 sons & 2 daughters. nzvienna Haynes 1894 now Enterprise, AL>FL,USA kdlsjb Hays ----- present still researching. located in KS Pswife Heard 1860 1990 georgia jheard Heaslip 1776 Now Bailieborough,Co Cavan, IRE>Sydney, Aus Immigrant Tarranne Heath 1869 1919 VA to GA marr. Jared Irwin chinasue Heavey 1798 present Gal,IR>Can>Roch,NY>LV,KS entered US c1839 jheaveyj Heck now now FL David Heck - Father Marlin Heck Birth Mother Patricia Heck greyhair Heck now now FL>AL James Heck b/o David Heck - father Marlin Heck & Birth Mother Patricia Heck greyhair Heck unknown now AL James "Jimmy" Heck; son of James and Sally Heck greyhair Heck unknown now AL James "Jimmy" Heck; son of James and Sally Heck greyhair Heck unknown now FL Daniel Heck son of David and Cindy Heck; brother also name David greyhair Heck unknown now IN>FL>AL Patrica Heck - divorced Marlin Heck & remarried Arthur Macks greyhair Heddon 1750 1900 Clovelly, UK>Welcome,UK paganoni Hedemann 1809 now HAN, DEU>MD, USA waldonia Heffler 1873 now UKR>Tyler>Houston,TX mheffler Heffron c 1850 1941 IRL>WI>MN>LosAngeles,CA,USA Michael m. Mary MINEGH nitabatz Heilbronn 1817 1850 Bermondsey, SRY, ENG jamacca Heise 1790 2007 DEU>MD>DC>SC Also LA, MS, CA IgelSP Hellers 1860 1958 Deu>MI Clara Hellers married Edward Penner diana982 Hellman 1700 1950 PA baj Helton 1800 1950 VA>OH>IN>USA James/Catherine Jackson ceagle52 Hemgesberg 1500 2008 Germany quincy13 Hendren 1700's N Ireland to Wilkes area Nc William, Alice, Fairlite Hendrix 1877 IN linda23 Hendrix 1910 Now OK DonkDonk Henry 1832 1896 AR>WA, USA dither Hensley 1764 1867 VR>MO,USA kileigh3 Henson 1780 1878 VR>NC>KN>MO,USA kileigh3 Hepp 1857 now Bavaria>MD>IL>WY,USA cml48 Hernandez 1800 1910 ESP>Italy>DOM ELISEO HERNANDEZ. MARRIED TO BEATRIZ CALCAGNO. LOOKING FOR SPEC. DATES, SHIP NAMES, OR TOWN OF ORIGIN kfeliz Hernandez 1800 1910 ESP>Italy>DOM LOOKING FOR SPEC. DATES, SHIP NAMES, OR TOWN OF ORIGIN kfeliz Heron Sct late 1700's Looking 4 ggggrandpa bluegret Herrington 1850 Now NY David Henry Herrington pawliv Herron 1761 2007 IN>KS>WA, USA dither Herzog GER PA, USA >Scott Co./Russell Co, VA, USA Hartsock sandra7 Heylek 1859 now BOH,SVK>PA jaschr71 Hicks 1780 now North Carolina bwinings Hiles c1811 now GLS,ENG>DBY,ENG>CHS,ENG philes1 Hill 1700 2007 Alabama to Texas sdhill24 Hill 1798 1790 Worstead, Norfolk mhsally Hillan 1882 2007 North Ireland>California calpurni Hine 1805 PA>IL bo111141 Hinshaw 1910 2007 IN dzc Hitsman 1732 1996 Germany-NY-MI DSofLV Hoagland 1890 2007 KS, CA dzc Hocker 1790 1850 Maryland to Kentucky buddy77 Hocking c. 1755 1780 Illogan, Cornwall mhsally Hodges 1700 now Virginia bwinings Hoffman 1845 1960 Connecticut, NJersey AVC1443 Holden 1830 1873 TN>MO Eli C pm5864 Holder 1861 now KY>AR didi1222 Holland 1600 1900 SC>GA>AL>GA Elisha Holland, 1817>SC leyhok Hollingshead 1800 now Ont.canada pember11 Holloman 1860 2007 IRL>USA Traced back to William Byrd Holloman champ89 Holloway 1830 1900 ENG, NY, MI gonavygo Holmes 1838 1920 TX edwinj Holmes 1864 1938 TX edwinj Hood 1729 1843 PA orlar Hood 1820 Ire.>PA Shartel Hood cunningw Hoskins 1869 1931 KY>AR didi1222 Houdershieldt ----- now unknown-to west virginia houdersheldt-diff spelling helen88 House 1800 some mow mainly Tennessee,Alabama noraally Houston now 1830 NC>MS>TX Oxford Abbeville MS McKinney TX leannmr Howard ----- 1880 GA married Nicholas Wallis chatlake Huckabee ----- 1860 GA married to Reuben Wallis chatlake Huebner 1935 2007 SD>WA, USA dither Huffman 1765 1871 New Jersey>Ky.>Mo. 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On Jan 8, 8:47 am, Christopher Jahn <xj...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Census data can never be *proof*; not only do they not require > documentation, you have no way of knowing who provided the > information.  Was this person REALLY James Lail, or someone > pretending to be him? You learn something new every day. Today I learned that identity theft was rampant in 1865-70.

JD <jd4x4@ wrote: > keithareynolds@hotmail.com wrote: > >> I know there are a number of genealogy software packages but i don't >> know where to begin. I am looking for something relatively simple >> that will let me do charts. I would also like to be able to export >> the material into word to go with written material. Or is there a >> better way to go? >> >> Does anyone have suggestions? > > Totally agree with the others about trying them all before buying. The > views, reports, & entry methods are a VERY personal preference! > > I'll add that in the coming months I think that all of the major ones will > likely add better support for auto-entry of info from web sources. Just my > feeling, I'm not an "insider" or anything. if you use auto entry you will add some errors too auto search is OK but check all you add Hugh Wusing

Dowop wrote: > In article <478095eb$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>, Nigel Bufton > <nigel@bufton.org> wrote: > >> "Charani" <SGBNOSPAM@ mail2genes.invalid> wrote in message >> news:477f91a7$0$47135$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net... >>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:08:44 GMT, keithareynolds@hotmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> I know there are a number of genealogy software packages but i don't >>>> know where to begin. I am looking for something relatively simple >>>> that will let me do charts. I would also like to be able to export >>>> the material into word to go with written material. Or is there a >>>> better way to go? >>>> >>>> Does anyone have suggestions? >>> Try all those available to see which one suits you best and feels the >>> most comfortable. >>> >>> If they aren't free, then they'll have a free trial version. >>> >>> Everyone has their favourite but it may not be the right one for you. >>> You're the only one who can make the decision. >>> >>> They all use GEDCOMs that enable you to export material. >>> -- >>> http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/ >> "They all use GEDCOMs that enable you to export material." - to different >> degrees. If this is important, don't assume that a particular program will >> export everything completely or correctly." >> >> Nigel >> tcgr.bufton.org >> >> > I agree. I'm on a Mac using Reunion. I created a GEDCOM and a PC user > read it in OK. She created a GEDCOM and when I tried to read it in, I > got a message that said it was an invalid format. > I don't think Mac genealogy software is worth bothering with after wasting about two hundred dollars in a MAc Store with an Intel Mac I run good old FTM 16 on WinXP sp2 on PAralles 3.0 on Mac OS 10.4.1110.5.* OS intel macs are all dual boot if you pruchase an OEM MS os and install it Hugh W

Charani wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 08:57:13 +1300, Sherlock Holmes wrote: > >> Just letting everyone out there know that the Genealogy.com side of >> things is being being made redundant meaning it will not longer be used >> as a site and all those that have accounts with Genealogy.com ought to >> ensure that they have an account with Ancestry.com >> This means that all data that one can find at Genealogy.com at present >> will is being moved to Ancestry.com > > Oh rats!!! > > Thanks for the info. this is still just a rumour Hugh W

JD <jd4x4@ wrote: > clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote: > >> JD wrote: >>> Until we find out what the LDS is brewing, >> I hate to say it, but what I've seen of LDS so far is highly >> disappointing. What little tiny fragments of my family tree I've found >> there are sparse and inaccurate. I've pretty much stopped using their >> site as a resource. >> > > Thanks for all of the warnings everyone! But I've been there and I know > what you mean. I'm also an Ancestry.com subsriber and the biggest waste of > time & effort are the trees (any of them). snip useful for social networking eg my late first wife's brother found me because I uploaded a gedcom to worldconnect,rotsweb.com Hugh W

clifto wrote: > JD wrote: >> Until we find out what the LDS is brewing, > > I hate to say it, but what I've seen of LDS so far is highly disappointing. > What little tiny fragments of my family tree I've found there are sparse > and inaccurate. I've pretty much stopped using their site as a resource. > well then you better contribute what you know for the general good Hugh W

JD wrote: >[...] >What I think the LDS is "brewing", is an expansion of their repository of >records (not just trees) for use on the familysearch.org site. I say that >because of what I've been reading on the blog at >http://labs.familysearch.org/. I don't know what it takes to get an >account while they are testing/"brewing" but I applied although haven't >heard back yet. It was quite a number of days before I heard back. I've only used it for about 15 mins, but I can see it will be useful - it's fleshed a few bones already.

"hlmw" <hlmw1@telus.net> wrote in message news:mailman.1793.1199851240.4586.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com... > > > Ann Avery Hunter wrote: >> "cecilia" <myths@ic24.net> wrote in message >> news:47841b2c.6336296@news.plus.net... >> >>> JD wrote: >>> >>>> [...] >>>> What I think the LDS is "brewing", is an expansion of their repository >>>> of >>>> records (not just trees) for use on the familysearch.org site. I say >>>> that >>>> because of what I've been reading on the blog at >>>> http://labs.familysearch.org/. I don't know what it takes to get an >>>> account while they are testing/"brewing" but I applied although haven't >>>> heard back yet. >>>> >>> It was quite a number of days before I heard back. I've only used it >>> for about 15 mins, but I can see it will be useful - it's fleshed a >>> few bones already. >>> >> >> I got my account after about 30 minutes. The OH death records alone are a >> treasure! >> >> Ann >> Winston-Salem, NC > What does OH mean? I just checked out the site and saw nothing resembling > OH. Do you mean OHIO? > Lorna Yep, Ohio. Ann

clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote: > JD wrote: >> Until we find out what the LDS is brewing, > > I hate to say it, but what I've seen of LDS so far is highly > disappointing. What little tiny fragments of my family tree I've found > there are sparse and inaccurate. I've pretty much stopped using their > site as a resource. > Thanks for all of the warnings everyone! But I've been there and I know what you mean. I'm also an Ancestry.com subsriber and the biggest waste of time & effort are the trees (any of them). I try only to use Fed, State, Local records and publications that have some merit, and I know they all have limitations as well. The problem with ALL trees now is that you have big trees that are built from a lot of bad smaller trees, so unless they have credible sources I won't use any of them. What I think the LDS is "brewing", is an expansion of their repository of records (not just trees) for use on the familysearch.org site. I say that because of what I've been reading on the blog at http://labs.familysearch.org/. I don't know what it takes to get an account while they are testing/"brewing" but I applied although haven't heard back yet.

"cecilia" <myths@ic24.net> wrote in message news:47841b2c.6336296@news.plus.net... > JD wrote: >>[...] >>What I think the LDS is "brewing", is an expansion of their repository of >>records (not just trees) for use on the familysearch.org site. I say that >>because of what I've been reading on the blog at >>http://labs.familysearch.org/. I don't know what it takes to get an >>account while they are testing/"brewing" but I applied although haven't >>heard back yet. > > It was quite a number of days before I heard back. I've only used it > for about 15 mins, but I can see it will be useful - it's fleshed a > few bones already. I got my account after about 30 minutes. The OH death records alone are a treasure! Ann Winston-Salem, NC

In News 198d97ae-d859-44a5-9b85-e10ac512bb13@m77g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,, JDLail at JDLail@yahoo.com, typed this: > I have a case where one of my family (Confederate) from Georgia was > captured in the Civil War, taken to > Fort Columbus (NY City area), took the oath of allegiance, and was > released in Sept 1863. He never came > home. His four children were scattered between the paternal > grandparents and the mother. > > However a man with his name shows up in Northern New Jersey within > months of his 1863 release . He > married and remained in Morris Co. NJ until his death in 1926. So its > reasonable to suspect that these > are the same guy. The surname here (Lail) was exceedingly rare at that > point in time and the given name > (James) had never been used before in the family, > > This James appeared in 5 New Jersey census records from 1870-1920. In > all cases he lists his birthplace > as Georgia. In all cases but one he lists his fathers birthplace as > Georgia as well. The exception being > 1920 when he gave it as North Carolina. And finally In all cases but > one he gives a birth year ca. 1846-7. > The exception being 1880 when he gave 1836-7 for his birth. > > The James missing from my family was born 1834-7 in Tennessee but was > raised in Georgia. The family > moved there ca. 1842. His father was born in NC. So do I have enough > proof ? Thanks. I would say that your evidence is very strong. There is seldom any such thing as slam-dunk proof when you're dealing with records that old.

Ann Avery Hunter wrote: > "cecilia" <myths@ic24.net> wrote in message > news:47841b2c.6336296@news.plus.net... > >> JD wrote: >> >>> [...] >>> What I think the LDS is "brewing", is an expansion of their repository of >>> records (not just trees) for use on the familysearch.org site. I say that >>> because of what I've been reading on the blog at >>> http://labs.familysearch.org/. I don't know what it takes to get an >>> account while they are testing/"brewing" but I applied although haven't >>> heard back yet. >>> >> It was quite a number of days before I heard back. I've only used it >> for about 15 mins, but I can see it will be useful - it's fleshed a >> few bones already. >> > > I got my account after about 30 minutes. The OH death records alone are a > treasure! > > Ann > Winston-Salem, NC > What does OH mean? I just checked out the site and saw nothing resembling OH. Do you mean OHIO? Lorna > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I wish I had more information. She would be between 77 and 87. Smiley was her married name at one point. I can't be certain that still is her surname. She was born in Arizona with the surname of Nelson. I don't know if she had a middle name. John "Joe Pessarra" <joepessarra@suddenlink.net> wrote in message news:4783b84b$0$19876$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net... > > "jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in message > news:haOgj.285$yQ1.128@edtnps89... >> Can anyone suggest where I can find some current California addresses? >> I'm trying to find a Katherine Smiley who was probably born between 1920 >> and 1930. In 1949 she was living in Needles, CA. I've searched numerous >> online directories and have come across 2 Katherine Smileys that are the >> right age-one in Buena Park and the other in Huntington Beach but I can't >> find their address unless I pay money and subscribe. I'm reluctant to >> this as I'm not from the USA so wouldn't probably use it again. I want to >> write to these people. >> John > > How can you be certain that the lady in question still has the last name > of Smiley? Or, is that a later married name for her? > > And, you are saying her age is somewhere between 87 and 97? > > California birth index for 1905 to 1995 show no one of that name born > between 1920 and 1930. > > Do you know a middle name? > > Will do some more looking, but it would be better if you could give us a > little more info. > > Joe in Texas > > > >

Can anyone suggest where I can find some current California addresses? I'm trying to find a Katherine Smiley who was probably born between 1920 and 1930. In 1949 she was living in Needles, CA. I've searched numerous online directories and have come across 2 Katherine Smileys that are the right age-one in Buena Park and the other in Huntington Beach but I can't find their address unless I pay money and subscribe. I'm reluctant to this as I'm not from the USA so wouldn't probably use it again. I want to write to these people. John

Sending some possibilities directly to poster. Joe "jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in message news:86Pgj.717$vp3.362@edtnps90... >I wish I had more information. She would be between 77 and 87. Smiley was >her married name at one point. I can't be certain that still is her >surname. She was born in Arizona with the surname of Nelson. I don't know >if she had a middle name. > John > "Joe Pessarra" <joepessarra@suddenlink.net> wrote in message > news:4783b84b$0$19876$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net... >> >> "jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in message >> news:haOgj.285$yQ1.128@edtnps89... >>> Can anyone suggest where I can find some current California addresses? >>> I'm trying to find a Katherine Smiley who was probably born between 1920 >>> and 1930. In 1949 she was living in Needles, CA. I've searched numerous >>> online directories and have come across 2 Katherine Smileys that are the >>> right age-one in Buena Park and the other in Huntington Beach but I >>> can't find their address unless I pay money and subscribe. I'm reluctant >>> to this as I'm not from the USA so wouldn't probably use it again. I >>> want to write to these people. >>> John >> >> How can you be certain that the lady in question still has the last name >> of Smiley? Or, is that a later married name for her? >> >> And, you are saying her age is somewhere between 87 and 97? >> >> California birth index for 1905 to 1995 show no one of that name born >> between 1920 and 1930. >> >> Do you know a middle name? >> >> Will do some more looking, but it would be better if you could give us a >> little more info. >> >> Joe in Texas >> >> >> >> >

"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in message news:haOgj.285$yQ1.128@edtnps89... > Can anyone suggest where I can find some current California addresses? I'm > trying to find a Katherine Smiley who was probably born between 1920 and > 1930. In 1949 she was living in Needles, CA. I've searched numerous online > directories and have come across 2 Katherine Smileys that are the right > age-one in Buena Park and the other in Huntington Beach but I can't find > their address unless I pay money and subscribe. I'm reluctant to this as > I'm not from the USA so wouldn't probably use it again. I want to write to > these people. > John How can you be certain that the lady in question still has the last name of Smiley? Or, is that a later married name for her? And, you are saying her age is somewhere between 87 and 97? California birth index for 1905 to 1995 show no one of that name born between 1920 and 1930. Do you know a middle name? Will do some more looking, but it would be better if you could give us a little more info. Joe in Texas

JDLail wrote: > I have a case where one of my family (Confederate) from Georgia was > captured in the Civil War, taken to > Fort Columbus (NY City area), took the oath of allegiance, and was > released in Sept 1863. He never came > home. His four children were scattered between the paternal > grandparents and the mother. > > However a man with his name shows up in Northern New Jersey within > months of his 1863 release . He > married and remained in Morris Co. NJ until his death in 1926. So its > reasonable to suspect that these > are the same guy. The surname here (Lail) was exceedingly rare at that > point in time and the given name > (James) had never been used before in the family, > > This James appeared in 5 New Jersey census records from 1870-1920. In > all cases he lists his birthplace > as Georgia. In all cases but one he lists his fathers birthplace as > Georgia as well. The exception being > 1920 when he gave it as North Carolina. And finally In all cases but > one he gives a birth year ca. 1846-7. > The exception being 1880 when he gave 1836-7 for his birth. > > The James missing from my family was born 1834-7 in Tennessee but was > raised in Georgia. The family > moved there ca. 1842. His father was born in NC. So do I have enough > proof ? Thanks. > > > No. What you have listed is a nasty, misleading, set of coincidences. (g) What does the NJ death certificate have to say about his parents? Did the NJ guy show up on the 1890 [yeah yeah, I know, but look ANYWAY]? Is there a Union service or pension record on him? OTOH, generally speaking, POWs were transferred en masse, not singly. Was he different and if so why? What does the CSA service record show happened? What do the NJ tax lists and/or voter lists reveal? Who'd he go and marry? I'll agree it's a reasonable conclusion begging to be leapt to, but you've not listed any _primary_ source for any of it. Census records are a last-resort, when all's said and done. Cheryl