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    1. Re: Master Genealogist
    2. Roger Lester
    3. The interface, for lack of better way of saying it, was klunky. This link will probably explain it better than I can. By the way I have now ordered the download version of The Master Genealogist-Silver. Roger http://genealogy.wpadmin.about.com/?comments_popup=255994 ChrisGW wrote: > Roger Lester wrote: >> Has anyone here used Master Genealogist software? >> I have FTM 2008 but I don't like it. I have found myself using the >> 2006 over the 2008 version. I am looking for another genealogy >> software package besides FTM. >> >> Thanks for any suggestions, >> Roger Lester > > I wish you would not of said that. I have been using version 9 (2001) > and just ordered FTM 2008 the other day. What was it that you did not > like about 2008? > > Chris >

    01/11/2008 10:12:07
    1. One More Ontario Marriage?
    2. I am very sorry for having to ask you guys again. I got more information but I needed one more certificate to confirm a couple more peices of information for my mom. I promise this will be my last request I am very sorry! SO if anyone on Ancestry can find me the marriage information, under Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924, for the names Alfred Charles Rose and Mary Rose. Thank you very very much and I really appreciate all your help in finding my family's past! Allison

    01/11/2008 10:05:19
    1. Re: Master Genealogist
    2. ChrisGW
    3. Roger Lester wrote: > Has anyone here used Master Genealogist software? > I have FTM 2008 but I don't like it. I have found myself using the 2006 > over the 2008 version. I am looking for another genealogy software > package besides FTM. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > Roger Lester I wish you would not of said that. I have been using version 9 (2001) and just ordered FTM 2008 the other day. What was it that you did not like about 2008? Chris

    01/11/2008 10:01:27
    1. Re: genealogy.com
    2. Robert Melson
    3. In article <47874a50$0$47102$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net>, Charani <SGBNOSPAM@ mail2genes.invalid> writes: > On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:21:30 -0000, Robert Melson wrote: > >> But why criticize the LDS/familysearch for the same problem >> one finds on RootsWeb and/or Ancestry? > > LDS was mentioned. Now that you've mention Rootsweb and Ancestry: I > don't use either of them either. The Rootsweb mailing lists are > useful because there are always people on them with good local > knowledge. > >> Author Theodore >> Sturgeon (Phillip Klass) famously said, "90% of everything is >> crap." > > If that's the case, then why are any of us doing our family history or > genealogy if 90% is only fit for the trash? I don't think that those > who helped me assemble Dear Cousin Albert's life (as in the link in my > sig file) would regard their efforts as 90% "crap". I certainly > don't. The point was - or so I thought - that most of the information found on the internet is suspect, particularly on the genealogy sites, whether free or commercial. Had nothing to do with why you and I and others indulge in this obsession/passion. I do it out of curiosity about my antecedents as well as for the thrill of the chase, which lets me indulge my Sherlock Holmes fantasies. Others do it for other reasons, how 'bout you? A NEED to know, knowledge for knowledge sake, name collecting, one-upmanship with other family members? Bob -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford

    01/11/2008 09:57:26
    1. Re: Ontario Marriage Certificate Lookup on Ancestry?
    2. On Jan 12, 12:05 am, "Dennis & Bonnie French" <frenchconnect...@bellsouth.net> wrote: > <spiraled....@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:886862cb-35f8-45d4-a2f7-2cee9bbbbd69@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > Hello, > > > I am looking for my grandfathers parents and I think these may be it. > > Could someone who has Ancestry please find me the information for > > their marriage? > > > The names are Charles Henry Rose and Elsie May Moore and it is under > > Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924. > > > I would really appreciate this. Thank you in advance. > > > Allison > > Here is the info. I will send you the image via email. > Bonnie > Charles Henry Rose > Birth Place: Canada > Age: 23 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1895 > Father Name: Alfred Rose > Mother Name: Mary Rose > Spouse Name: Elsie May Moore > Spouse's Age: 22 > Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1896 > Spouse Birth Place: England > Spouse Father Name: George Moore > Spouse Mother Name: Edith Cawood > Marriage Date: 24 Dec 1918 > Marriage Place: Peterborough > Marriage County: Peterborough > Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_462 Thank you very very much!! This helps me so much! Thank you!

    01/11/2008 09:48:31
    1. FOUND IT Re: Maps Ancestry.com
    2. ChrisGW
    3. Once again as fate would have it. I found it. I probably looked right at it about 10 times Thanks anyway Chris ChrisGW wrote: > On the maps at Ancestry I am trying to find Carnarsie (sp) and E 40 in > the Flatlands of Brooklyn 1880-1920. I think it is there some place, but > need some help finding it. It should be the place of the Sigloch farm > and Cummings Farm. > > Thanks for your help > > Chris

    01/11/2008 09:32:32
    1. Maps Ancestry.com
    2. ChrisGW
    3. On the maps at Ancestry I am trying to find Carnarsie (sp) and E 40 in the Flatlands of Brooklyn 1880-1920. I think it is there some place, but need some help finding it. It should be the place of the Sigloch farm and Cummings Farm. Thanks for your help Chris

    01/11/2008 09:14:37
    1. Re: genealogy.com
    2. Graeme Wall
    3. In message <Xns9A226C97AAAC5xjahn@216.196.97.136> Christopher Jahn <xjahn@yahoo.com> wrote: [snip] > > Many cultures indulge in ancestor worship to varying degress. I > know of at least one culture at actually keeps their ancestors' > remains (only a couple generations back) in the house! Oh, > they're fully "prepared," so there's no health issues. But they > will often have the departed sit at the dinner table for > ceremonius occasions. > The Aztecs and Incas went in for it in a big way, especially the latter where dead kings would have their own (live) households. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>

    01/11/2008 09:01:05
    1. Re: HerandHis WholliDaysZillionsz
    2. 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    01/11/2008 08:58:59
    1. Re: Master Genealogist
    2. Symonds
    3. I have used the Master Genealogist since version 3 for Windows, now using version 7 for Win2K, Win XP, and Win Vista, just released at the end of December. It's a powerful program providing great flexibility in entering data, sources, and exhibits, and providing companion enhancements by allied developers. Marilyn Symonds Roger Lester wrote: > Has anyone here used Master Genealogist software? > I have FTM 2008 but I don't like it. I have found myself using the 2006 > over the 2008 version. I am looking for another genealogy software > package besides FTM. > > Thanks for any suggestions, > Roger Lester > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    01/11/2008 08:48:04
    1. Ontario Marriage Certificate Lookup on Ancestry?
    2. Hello, I am looking for my grandfathers parents and I think these may be it. Could someone who has Ancestry please find me the information for their marriage? The names are Charles Henry Rose and Elsie May Moore and it is under Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924. I would really appreciate this. Thank you in advance. Allison

    01/11/2008 08:22:34
    1. Re: Ontario marriage look up please?
    2. On Jan 11, 5:58 pm, saki <s...@ucla.edu> wrote: > haase...@gmail.com wrote in news:2e384b4b-aabb-42ec-928f-736c2b3df194 > @d70g2000hsb.googlegroups.com: > > > Can someone who has access to Ancestry please look up a marriage? It's > > under Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924. The names are James Edward > > Armstrong and Lenora Burrows. If someone can give me the information > > there, it would be a huge, huge help. Thanks in advance to anyone who > > can do this! > > Image sent. Please let me know if you don't receive it and I'll send it > again. > > ---- > s...@ucla.eduhttp://sakionline.net/familypage I received it - thank you so much!

    01/11/2008 08:11:28
    1. Mormon records? ? ?
    2. Ray
    3. I have a couple of questions about the http://www.familysearch.org/ web site which is maintained by the Mormon Church: -- I believe I read somewhere that the site is now closed to future postings. Is this correct? -- Is there any way to correct inaccuracies which I have found in my own family records? The site is a valuable source for confirming and enlarging information you already have, but it must be used with care. It is not "gospel," to coin a phrase.

    01/11/2008 07:49:04
    1. Ontario marriage look up please?
    2. Can someone who has access to Ancestry please look up a marriage? It's under Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924. The names are James Edward Armstrong and Lenora Burrows. If someone can give me the information there, it would be a huge, huge help. Thanks in advance to anyone who can do this!

    01/11/2008 07:24:17
    1. Re: genealogy.com
    2. Texas Gen
    3. Bob wrote: > I do it [genealogy research] out of curiosity about my antecedents >as well as for the > thrill of the chase, which lets me indulge my Sherlock Holmes > fantasies. Yes, that is the research motivation for me. I find fascinating stories and get a look at their lives in the social and historical context. I research in-laws' families for about two or three generations, sometimes more if they are interesting. And I research all my maternal lines with the same focus as I do the paternal lines. I just follow the trails. My motivation for research has nothing to do with ancestor worship. It has everything to do with curiosity about ancestors, collateral ancestors, and allied families. I definitely don't do it to find famous figures----although I have found a very few. And I've found a few rascals. It balances out. I find the search to be valuable to me and a few members of my family who are particularly interested in history in general. When I find something particularly interesting (such as someone who died at the Alamo), I write up a brief "Family Factoid" e-mail and send it to members of the family. When I began this about three years ago, I put in the disclaimer that there would be no pop quiz later---they might choose to read it now, store it and read it later, or drop it in File 13. It has worked out well and some do love it. Some distant relatives have even asked to be added to the list. I never ask anybody about it later---it's a no-pressure deal. Sometimes I'll get a reply asking for more detail or asking other questions about it. I try to keep the factoids brief and simple. However, the last one I sent out had a "short version" at the top and then the "longer version" added separately at the bottom for those who were interested in more detail. I might only send one every couple of months. I don't want to spam! Warmest Regards, Donna P.S. Right now I'm doing research for a client. I find the search fascinating and fun--and it's nice to help someone else who doesn't have the time to do it himself.

    01/11/2008 07:15:45
    1. Re: genealogy.com
    2. Charani
    3. On Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:21:30 -0000, Robert Melson wrote: > But why criticize the LDS/familysearch for the same problem > one finds on RootsWeb and/or Ancestry? LDS was mentioned. Now that you've mention Rootsweb and Ancestry: I don't use either of them either. The Rootsweb mailing lists are useful because there are always people on them with good local knowledge. > Author Theodore > Sturgeon (Phillip Klass) famously said, "90% of everything is > crap." If that's the case, then why are any of us doing our family history or genealogy if 90% is only fit for the trash? I don't think that those who helped me assemble Dear Cousin Albert's life (as in the link in my sig file) would regard their efforts as 90% "crap". I certainly don't. -- http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/

    01/11/2008 03:56:33
    1. Re: Mormon records? ? ?
    2. singhals
    3. Ray wrote: > I have a couple of questions about the http://www.familysearch.org/ web site > which is maintained by the Mormon Church: > > -- I believe I read somewhere that the site is now closed to future > postings. Is this correct? > Sort of. > -- Is there any way to correct inaccuracies which I have found in my own > family records? > Not unless you're Mormon. > The site is a valuable source for confirming and enlarging information you > already have, but it must be used with care. It is not "gospel," to coin a > phrase. As even the LDS complains. (g) Backing up to expand. Sort of: LDS is working on a replacement to be used for LDS purposes by LDS members. All future additions will go into that database. How / if that will affect non-member access to the familysearch.org site and the data thereon is a trifle unclear at the moment. Not Unless you're Mormom: *IF* you are Mormon and *IF* your Temple district has the replacement mentioned above, you can identify which pieces of information are more-correct than others. If either of those two conditions are not met, you cannot at this time do anything with it. At some point in the future, non-member access to the information will be permitted and it is thought by some that non-members as well as members will be allowed to attach comments to entries. As even the LDS complains : seems to me to need no further comment. Cheryl

    01/11/2008 03:23:58
    1. Re: genealogy.com
    2. Christopher Jahn
    3. Charani <SGBNOSPAM@ mail2genes.invalid> wrote in news:47874a50$0$47102$892e7fe2@authen.yellow.readfreenews.net: > If that's the case, then why are any of us doing our family > history or genealogy if 90% is only fit for the trash? Because we have an obsession that is mostly harmless, so society lets us do it without much derision. Many cultures indulge in ancestor worship to varying degress. I know of at least one culture at actually keeps their ancestors' remains (only a couple generations back) in the house! Oh, they're fully "prepared," so there's no health issues. But they will often have the departed sit at the dinner table for ceremonius occasions. "As it harms none, 'do what thou wilt' shall be the whole of the law," proclaims another religion. Have fun with it, but don't over-estimate its value in the greater scheme of things. -- }:-) Christopher Jahn {:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/ Sin that pays its way can travel freely, and without a passport; whereas virtue, if a pauper, is stopped at all frontiers.

    01/11/2008 02:40:26
    1. RSL: New J Surnames, December 2007 Update
    2. RootsWeb Surname List
    3. December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with J - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Jaekel 1825 1938 MN famhugz Jakowetz 1780 now BOH,AUT>DEU Meronitz, Schichhof, Radowesitz kjako Jakubec 1851 1915 1903 Austria,Czechoslovakia,Texas g grandmother child3 James 1800 1910 Swansea prdeath James 1810 1900 Pembrokeshire prdeath Janowska 1800 Prussia/Posen Grzym Jaschik 1800 present Prussia>MD JamCas Jeffers 1789 now Boston, Massachusetts>FL>CA famhugz Jelier 1500 2000 France>The Netherlands nicole66 Jepson 1915 2000 Minnasota>California twospots John 1864 now GLA,WLS>VIC,AUS John Alawydd John, son of Thomas John and Elizabeth Griffiths dig17 Johnson 1800 present Ireland>USA Nancy Johnson married Thomas Ross. His parents were Andrew Ross and Jane Snoddy. He may have had a brother Adam. dmmarsh Johnson 1806 1943 TN>MO Davidson Co. TN>St. Clair Co. MO RomaW Johnson 1828 1995 IRL>LAN,ENG>CAM,ENG Liverpool, Cambridge lymmbo Johnson 1866 1940 north carolina to west virginia need to know parents wolves56 Johnson now 1798 NC>GA>TX Cherokee Floyd Gordon Pickens GA Hess OK Eastland TX leannmr Johnston 1827 Now Cumberland> Australia John son of Benjamin and Jane of Workington jopaul Jolly 1930 now AL.TX Msmitty Jones 1755 now "Indian Territory"> White Oak, Craig Co., Oklahoma> Long Creek Township, Carroll Co., Arkansas> Tennessee> Alabama> Pendleton Dist. South Carolina Thomas Jones & Elizabeth Wilkerson [Eastern Cherokee] married about 1783 - Elizabeth Jones Hampton 1815-1906> James Jones 1782 - 1851> Thomas Jones 1755 - Before1831 trowk2 Jonsdotter abt1740 abt1740 Sweden Sara, married to Daniel Nilsson dazman6 Jonsson abt1767 abt1767 Sweden Magnus, married to Stina Petersdotter dazman6 Joseph 1800 now Elk City, OK>CA Lindyjo Joyce mid 1800 IRE>NY GREGOR Juarez Mex Calif 1900's Mariano/Maria deljmar Justi 1800 PRU>Louisville, KY ppincher Justin 1780 2007 RI>CT>VT>HERKIMER/ONEIDA COUNTY NY>MI Polly Chaffee married John Justine 1814 Fairfield, Herkimer County New York. Son, Alonzo Justin born August 1815. John Justin disappeared by 1817 DRJ1229 Jönsson 1717 1777 OEG,SWE Erik Jönsson of Knillerbo elarson See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

    01/11/2008 02:14:47
    1. Re: California records
    2. On Jan 9, 12:29 pm, "jburns" <johnbu...@telus.net> wrote: > I didn't get any answers here. Can any suggest a forum or mailing list where > I might find the information I am looking for? > John"Joe Pessarra" <joepessa...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message > > news:4783c301$0$19883$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net... > > > > > Sending some possibilities directly to poster. > > > Joe > > > "jburns" <johnbu...@telus.net> wrote in message > >news:86Pgj.717$vp3.362@edtnps90... > >>I wish I had more information. She would be between 77 and 87.Smileywas > >>her married name at one point. I can't be certain that still is her > >>surname. She was born in Arizona with the surname of Nelson. I don't know > >>if she had a middle name. > >> John > >> "Joe Pessarra" <joepessa...@suddenlink.net> wrote in message > >>news:4783b84b$0$19876$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net... > > >>> "jburns" <johnbu...@telus.net> wrote in message > >>>news:haOgj.285$yQ1.128@edtnps89... > >>>> Can anyone suggest where I can find some current California addresses? > >>>> I'm trying to find a KatherineSmileywho was probably born between > >>>> 1920 and 1930. In 1949 she was living in Needles, CA. I've searched > >>>> numerous online directories and have come across 2 Katherine Smileys > >>>> that are the right age-one in Buena Park and the other in Huntington > >>>> Beach but I can't find their address unless I pay money and subscribe. > >>>> I'm reluctant to this as I'm not from the USA so wouldn't probably use > >>>> it again. I want to write to these people. > >>>> John > > >>> How can you be certain that the lady in question still has the last name > >>> ofSmiley?  Or, is that a later married name for her? > > >>> And, you are saying her age is somewhere between 87 and 97? > > >>> California birth index for 1905 to 1995 show no one of that name born > >>> between 1920 and 1930. > > >>> Do you know a middle name? > > >>> Will do some more looking, but it would be better if you could give us a > >>> little more info. > > >>> Joe in Texas- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - 1-10-2008 If you could supply a little more information you could have success with someone who could assist you on this. Do you have an exact date of birth for her? City in Arizona where she was born? Names of her parents and or brothers/sisters? Name of the man she married (Mr. Smiley)? Her occupation? Any previous street address where she has been known to live? You can't automatically assume that she will be alive, although that certainly is a possibility. GENEALOGICAL RESEARCHER ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    01/10/2008 08:52:26