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    1. Re: problem with mother's scrapbook project
    2. Mark Roy
    3. Michelle, Sabrina's Mom wrote: > Hi, > > I have a problem with a project that I started and don't know how to > finish.. I want to do the right thing but I am not sure what the right thing > is. The project involves a scrapbook that belonged to my mother from the > early 60's. This scrapbook contains a lot of photos, some movie ticket > stubs and a few newspaper clippings. Alot of the photos are attached to the > pages with small staples, some of the photos that were attached at one time > have fallen off as well as the movie theater tickets and newspaper > clippings. I was wondering what is the best way to approach this. I already > scanned each page that has pictures on it as is and saved the images in tif > format.. But now what should I do with the loose pictures and other items, > Should I reattach them and then scan or should I take all of the pictures > off the pages and then reattach everything in a way that will preserve them > safely. I was thinking acid free mylar film for everything but I am not > sure.. I want to keep everything in the original scrapbook, but the staples > are issue. I can see what seems to be rust spots forming around them. Please > help. I want to finish this and put it away in a safe place. > > Thank you, > > Michelle > > A relevant article just posted to the Ancestry.com blog: http://blogs.ancestry.com/circle/?p=2191

    01/13/2008 01:54:51
    1. Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?
    2. Huntersglenn
    3. Yeah, I love and hate that site. Love it because my husband has West Virginia roots. Hate it because all too often the important fields are blank <grin>. Back to ancestry to see if we can scare up someone for you to check out <vbg>! Thanks, Cathy singhals wrote: > The record, taken from the WV Vitals site's scan of the original > document. Original was one of the county record books where the entry > spans both the left & right pages. Most of the questions you've raised > had no column in which to record the info. > > Name: Mary E./Sirbaugh > Sex: Female > Death Date: 31 Jan 1885 > Death Place: Shepherdstown, Jefferson Co., West Virginia > Age at Death: 43y > CAUSE : heart disease > Burial Place: not asked > Burial Date: " > Cemetery: " > Funeral Home: " > Birth Date: " > Birth Place: Maryland > Marital Status: not asked > Spouse: Geo. W./Sirbaugh > Occupation: not asked > Address: " > Residence: " > Mother: M./Hanby > Mother's Birth Place: " Father: Wm./Hanby > Father's Birth Place: " > Informant: brother: Wm Hanby > > Huntersglenn wrote: > >> I can only find the family that Bruce found - they aren't in the 1870 >> that I can find, but the older William Haney and his wife are in >> Monongalia County, WV in the 1880 Federal Census. No children living >> with them, though. >> >> My husband has some Haneys in his line, and one thing we've found over >> the years is that enumerators could be most creative when spelling the >> name and indexers even more creative in spelling it when the >> enumerator had bad or fancy handwriting. We've seen it as Haney, >> Hainey, Hainy, Hanie, and Hany to name the most common. >> >> Is there a middle initial given for Mary? Where did she die? Does >> the death record show where she's buried? What was her husband's name? >> >> Thanks, >> Cathy >> >> singhals wrote: >> >>> I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's HARVEY, >>> handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) in 1862 in >>> Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is given, not his mother, >>> and for her parents it says Unknown. >>> >>> In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married name, giving >>> her father as William HANBY, and her mother as M.; informant is her >>> brother William. It says she was 45 and born in VA. >>> >>> Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't find a >>> William Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death certificate. >>> I've looked at HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY, HANVY, HANBY, and HANLEY. >>> I've looked at all the William and Wm entries ... >>> >>> Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you can spot >>> them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or Loudoun counties >>> VA or in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson counties WV. They COULD >>> be anywhere in the US. >>> >>> Citation only, no need to send the image. >>> >>> Many many thanks! >>> >>> Cheryl >>>

    01/13/2008 11:24:58
    1. Re: Irish Free State
    2. On Jan 13, 1:48 pm, ChrisGW <newsgrou...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On the 1930 U.S. Census (Brooklyn Kings County New York)under Johanna > Wilkenshoff she is listed as being from the "Irish Free State". Is this Ireland? > Was this Ireland being free from England? > > Thanks in advance > > Chris Yes, as opposed to Northern Ireland (Belfast area.)

    01/13/2008 09:54:24
    1. Re: Godfrey Library
    2. Bruce Remick
    3. "Texas Gen" <texas.gen@gmail.com> wrote in message news:478a39d8$0$24121$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Does Godfrey have information that Ancestry does not have? > > Or, if any of you are Texans, does it have information that TexShare does > not have? > > Thanks-- I'm sure each has some different stuff, plus some duplication. These are the specific links they list in the basic Godfrey resources package under Texas. This should give you an idea of the types of information available. Plus there's those Texas newspapers in the next level option. Documenting the American South (UNC) TX 1890 Reconstructed Census Wichita County TX Andrews County, BIRTHS 1917-1918 from Draft Registration Cards TX Archer County, Marriages 1984-1994 (Partial) TX Bartle Funeral Home Records, Shelby County, 1966-1999 TX Bellevue Cemetery, Clay County TX Bluegrove Cemetery, Clay County TX Brazoria County Cemeteries TX Brazos County, Marriage Records 1843-1895 TX Briar Creek Cemetery, Montague County TX Brite Cemetery, Atascasa County TX Britton Cemetery, Ellis County TX Bryan-College Station Obituaries Since March 2000 TX Cherokee County, Cemeteries TX Chireno Cemeteries TX Collins Count Marriage Records 1846-1891, Probate Records 1858-1870 TX Colorado County, Cemetery and Church Records, Civil War Soldiers TX Concord Community Cemetery, Anderson County TX Confederate Pensions Index TX Corpus Christi Obituary Index 1893-1903, 1950 to Present TX Death Index, 1964-1998 TX El Paso County, Marriages from 1963 TX Eleven County Probate Index TX Ellis County Marriages 1857-1861 TX Fort Bend County Marriage Index TX Franklin County Marriage Index TX Frio County Cemeteries, Marriages, Naturalization, Tax Rolls TX Galveston Storm Death Records 1900 TX Gregg County, Vital Records TX Hale County, Cemetery Database TX Handbook Online TX Hardin County Births Before 1910 TX Hardin County Deaths Before 1910 TX Hardin County Marriages TX Hawkins Mortuary Index, Henrietta, Clay County, 1942-1948 TX Hawkins Mortuary Index, Henrietta, Clay County, 1948-1953 TX Hillcrest Cemetery, Wichita Falls TX Hood County Records TX Immigrant Arrivals at Galveston, 1865-1896 TX Johnson County Cemeteries TX Joy Cemetery, Clay County TX Lakeview Cemetery, Wichita County TX Law's Chapel Cemetery, Atlanta, Cass County TX Liberty Cemetery, Clay County TX Macedonia Cemetery, Brown County TX Mangum Funeral Home Records, Shelby County, 1915-2004 TX Moore Funeral Home, Henrietta, Clay County, 1919-1921 TX Mugg Cemetery TX Nacogdoches County Cemeteries TX North Texas Genealogy TX Oak Hill Cemetery, Montague County TX Oakwood Cemetery, Austin TX Old Bayview Cemetery, Corpus Christi TX Pecan Gap Cemetery, Delta County TX Pensions (1883) TX Pleasant Valley Cemetery, Dallas County TX Rhodes Cemetery, Dallas TX Selected Dallas County Cemeteries TX Selected Obituaries Archer County, 1987-1994 TX Selected Upshur/Camp County Cemeteries TX Shannon Cemetery, Clay County TX Shelby County Cemeteries TX Shelby County Marriage Index 1882-1999 TX Smyrna Cemetery, Montague County TX Spanish Fort Cemetery, Montague County TX St. Paul Cemetery, Ellis County TX State Cemetery TX State Cemetery Name Index TX Sullivan Cemetery, Hunt County TX Tarrant County Cemeteries TX Tarrant County, Marriages TX Underwood Funeral Home, Vernon 1903-1905 TX Vashti Cemetery, Clay County TX Walker County Cemeteries TX Wheat Cemetery, Millican TX Wilbarger County, Marriages 1882-1890 TX Williamson County, Cemeteries begin 666 pixel.gif K1TE&.#EA`0`!`( ``,# P ```"'Y! $`````+ `````!``$```("1 $`.P`` ` end

    01/13/2008 07:20:52
    1. Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?
    2. singhals
    3. The record, taken from the WV Vitals site's scan of the original document. Original was one of the county record books where the entry spans both the left & right pages. Most of the questions you've raised had no column in which to record the info. Name: Mary E./Sirbaugh Sex: Female Death Date: 31 Jan 1885 Death Place: Shepherdstown, Jefferson Co., West Virginia Age at Death: 43y CAUSE : heart disease Burial Place: not asked Burial Date: " Cemetery: " Funeral Home: " Birth Date: " Birth Place: Maryland Marital Status: not asked Spouse: Geo. W./Sirbaugh Occupation: not asked Address: " Residence: " Mother: M./Hanby Mother's Birth Place: " Father: Wm./Hanby Father's Birth Place: " Informant: brother: Wm Hanby Huntersglenn wrote: > I can only find the family that Bruce found - they aren't in the 1870 > that I can find, but the older William Haney and his wife are in > Monongalia County, WV in the 1880 Federal Census. No children living > with them, though. > > My husband has some Haneys in his line, and one thing we've found over > the years is that enumerators could be most creative when spelling the > name and indexers even more creative in spelling it when the enumerator > had bad or fancy handwriting. We've seen it as Haney, Hainey, Hainy, > Hanie, and Hany to name the most common. > > Is there a middle initial given for Mary? Where did she die? Does the > death record show where she's buried? What was her husband's name? > > Thanks, > Cathy > > singhals wrote: > >> I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's HARVEY, >> handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) in 1862 in >> Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is given, not his mother, >> and for her parents it says Unknown. >> >> In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married name, giving >> her father as William HANBY, and her mother as M.; informant is her >> brother William. It says she was 45 and born in VA. >> >> Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't find a >> William Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death certificate. >> I've looked at HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY, HANVY, HANBY, and HANLEY. >> I've looked at all the William and Wm entries ... >> >> Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you can spot >> them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or Loudoun counties >> VA or in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson counties WV. They COULD be >> anywhere in the US. >> >> Citation only, no need to send the image. >> >> Many many thanks! >> >> Cheryl >>

    01/13/2008 05:48:10
    1. Re: Godfrey Library
    2. singhals
    3. Bruce Remick wrote: > SmallTownPapers® Collection - Discover your ancestors like never before.the > people, places and events as reported in real time in their local newspaper. > World Vital Records was selected to provide access to this archive of > exclusive newspaper content, not available from any other genealogy source! > This gives you access to a completely searchable digital archive that > features small-town newspapers back to 1846. They currently offer nearly 1 > million pages from this unique archive, and are adding more than 100,000 > pages each month! NOT to throw-off on either Godfrey or the newspaper collection, but as a reality-check: Smalltown papers generally ran to being a 4-pg paper. Open up a copy of the Washington POST or the New York TIMES or the SF CHRONICAL, remove one sheet of paper. That's a 4-page newspaper. Pg 1 was generally one national-level story occupying the column on the free edge, perhaps a regional level blurb half or less of the column beside it, and --until roughly 1900-- advertisements. Pg 2 was the masthead, editorials, some what we now know as op-eds, perhaps a letter to the editor, and whatever else filled up the space --travel, religion, education; generally, very few ads on this page. Pg 3 was where the Personals/truly local news appeared. Even there, as much as 2 columns of the 6 were classifieds. Pg 4 was mostly ads -- some display, some classified-- with sometimes 6 or 8 inches of non-advertising quite often a morality tale for the edification of Young Minds. pp 2 and 4 were _more_ likely to have items of local interest (i.e., the gossip columns) after an election issue, or after the county budget/audit for the year were printed as each of those filled two pages of their issue, pushing most other stuff into the next issue. OTOH, what you find in those 3 columns per issue can be PRICELESS in many ways. (g) Cheryl (Whose experience with small town newspapers includes extracting 50yrs worth of one.)

    01/13/2008 05:27:38
    1. Re: problem with mother's scrapbook project
    2. Michelle, Sabrina's Mom
    3. "Huntersglenn" <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in message news:wm8ij.9275$R55.553@newsfe13.lga... > Interesting problem. We had a similar issue with a scrapbook that was > kept by my husband's grandfather - our problem was mostly solved when the > book itself fell apart and we had no choice but to scan the things that > were in it (almost all of the items were newspaper clippings). > > There are programs out there that will let you set up a scrapbook-type > page with photos and other scanned images, and that might be better than > trying to keep all of the originals with the scrapbook pages. My concern > is that the rust that's already on the pages due to the staples would > migrate to anything stored with those pages. But with a program that > would allow you to recreate the look of the scrapbook would be a good way > to preserve the essence of the book. You could then store the pages > separately from the items that had been attached to them. > > You might also want to check to see if there are any scrapbooking or paper > preservation newsgroups - the people there might have better solutions for > your problem. > > Good luck, > Cathy > Thanks Cathy : )

    01/13/2008 05:07:41
    1. Re: Godfrey Library
    2. Bruce Remick
    3. <SLS91750@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4d8463fc-1587-4e25-b289-9f2c8fb74a06@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com... On Jan 7, 9:23 pm, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote: > I am considering which level to choose in renewing my online Godfrey > Library > subscription. Could anyone currently using the World Vital Records option > tell me what types of things are covered over and above the standard > option? > I notice they dropped access to census records a while ago. Are these now > included in the "Vital Records"? > > Bruce Hi Bruce, I am trying to figure out the same thing about my Godfrey Library Subscription. So, I joined "Vital Records" at their site on a monthly basis this weekend for $5.95 and I can cancel at any time. I thought I'd try it for a month or so and see if it is worth it. I am not sure yet what to think of it!! :) I did the same with GenealogyBank.com a few months ago and did find it useful for a while and might go back. You can join some of these sites on a monthly basis and cancel if you find it isn't what you wanted and/ or needed or just couldn't afford anymore! Is vital records the only addition to Godfery? I miss the Newspapers the most! Sheila _____________________________- Godfrey currently offers four levels of online membership at four price levels from $35 to $110. The second (Blue) level gives access to their various databases plus NewspaperArchive.com at $65. That's what I have had this past year. The third level (Green) offers World Vital Records instead of NewspaperArchive.com at $80, and the $110 (Gold) level offers both. Since there already are a number of vital record links in the basic membership, I wondered what additional vital records I might expect for an additional $45. I contacted Godfrey and the following is what they replied about World Vital Records-- Exclusive Data from Everton Publishers - Provides exclusive data from Everton including over 200 issues of the Genealogical Helper Magazine (1946-2006). That is more than 40,000 pages of information to help you with your genealogy! They have also indexed more than 3.6 million names from Everton's pedigree files and family group sheets. Also included is access to the historic Everton Library, plus they add new data every month. This information is not available anywhere else online. SmallTownPapers® Collection - Discover your ancestors like never before.the people, places and events as reported in real time in their local newspaper. World Vital Records was selected to provide access to this archive of exclusive newspaper content, not available from any other genealogy source! This gives you access to a completely searchable digital archive that features small-town newspapers back to 1846. They currently offer nearly 1 million pages from this unique archive, and are adding more than 100,000 pages each month! Quintin CDROM Library - Get access to more than 10,000 exclusive databases that would cost over $4000 if you purchased the CDs separately! These will be coming online over the next few months. These are valuable and hard-to-find materials from many different sources. International Parish Register Collection - Your membership will include access to one of the largest collections of parish registers on the Web from many different countries, and we are adding more every day. World Gazetteer Collection - Search for detailed information on more than 310,000 places around the world. International Marriage Record Collection - Search through over 3 million marriages from all over the world.

    01/13/2008 03:26:03
    1. Re: Godfrey Library
    2. Texas Gen
    3. Does Godfrey have information that Ancestry does not have? Or, if any of you are Texans, does it have information that TexShare does not have? Thanks-- Donna

    01/13/2008 03:18:37
    1. RSL: New L Surnames, December 2007 Update
    2. RootsWeb Surname List
    3. December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with L - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 La Shelle 1800 2007 pensylvania sandyste LaCroix 1654 now Ohain,BEL>PA>NJ,USA dauphine LaFerriere 1850 now Quebec>MA wogonnj Lacey 1850 2007 wexford Co Ireland>PE,CAN laceyvil Lafferty 1400 now ireland to west virginia need to know names wolves56 Laing 1790 1820 Strathmiglo, FIF jamacca Lake 1872 1947 Channel Islands Amy-Edward-Walter clare247 Lake NY Cleve OH 1830's Parents?DoB? Where? bluegret Lambert West Ind Phila PA 1846 starmine Lamunion 1880 1948 NY>MI pawliv Lanfranchi 1880 now Messina,SIC>Boston MA,USA vincep6 Lang 1700 1800 Milton Dameral,UK paganoni Langdeau 1816 present NE, SD Lakota Indians jsweet7 Langenbau 1910 Now MN, USA http://kimzplace.info kboe Laramee 1700s now Quebec, CAN>RI,USA eboulay1 Larkin 1872 Now IRL> NYC Seek county of origin for Roger Larkin and any info on Nora Larkin ejddc Larson 1800 current Denmark >KS>CA cv4linda Laubenthal 1700 2007 Germany abbie12 Laux 1500 1700 Alsace quincy13 Laverty 1880 present NIR,Glas,Scot janeygee Lavin 1800 now ?>ontario pember11 Laxton 1800 1900 NC>Va she53 Lazuisi 1800 Italy>NY MonaF Leary 1786 1834 MD>VR>KN>IN,USA kileigh3 Lebrun 1757 now Acadie>Yamaska Brun maskou Lecuyer 1650 1975 FRA>QC,CAN>IL,USA wronkiew Ledig 1775 BAD-WUE,DEU gregwein Lee 1830 1920 Barren Co KY R.M.Lee m. Sallie Carrier mag7885 Lee 1842 present NOR>MN>TN>MN>Sk,CAN norski07 Lee 1842 present NOR>MN>TN>MN>Sk,CAN LEE family lived in Long Lake, MN approx. 1900 norski07 Leech 1720 2007 England>NY>NC>MS byeoman Leedom 1800 2007 pensylvania sandyste Lemerise 1656 now Trois-Rivieres, Qc, Canada Lefebvre maskou Lenart 1850 1950 Poland>MI>IL,USA wronkiew Lennard 1820 now LEI,ENG Connections to footwear companies Lennard Bros Ltd, Lennards Ltd and Public Benefit Boot Co. bseddon Lewis 1775 1893 PA>W.VR>OH>MO,USA kileigh3 Lewis 1797 1899 PA>OH>IL>KS>NE>WA,USA kileigh3 Lifhitz 1800 now RUS>Ellisisland>NY-USA KLINTZI RUSSIA foxiegma Lightbody 1875 present Scotland janeygee Liles 1600 1900 SC>GA>TX>GA Elijah Liles to Enoch d.1830 leyhok Liles 1700 1775 Virginia southward noraally Linden 1801 now prussia>oh nursiev Linville 1600 Now England>VA, USA>WV, USA http://kimzplace.info kboe Lloyd 1890 2007 KS dzc Lloyd 1921 1983 wv>oh nursiev Lloyds Ky Tenn 1800s from Ky to Tenn My ggmother, Lloyd/Loyd married my gfather, Mitchell Crawley in Ky tgoodsr1 Logan 1829 2002 Scotland,--Adjula, Ontario mhsally Lohman 1845 now Ger>Il tripper1 Long 1778 Lincoln(Tryon)Co KY, USA Wm>Jane m. Dunn DLGordon Longman 1600 2000 YEOVIL>SOM>ENGLAND jimnorth Loose 1700 1930 1700 Rothsville, Lan. Pa bockum Lovelady 1700 1800 NC>TN,USA connects to Morgan & Weir kileigh3 Loveland <1865 now NY>UnionCo,NJ>Richland Co, OH,USA sb102441 Lowe 1900 now AL>TX Msmitty Lowther 1750 2007 ENG>NS,CAN laceyvil Loyds Ky Tenn 1800s from Ky to Tenn My ggmother, Lloyd/Loyd married my gfather, Mitchell Crawley in Ky tgoodsr1 Lubomirski 1513 2007 POL,RUS,DC,USA slubore Ludlow 1879 Nfld. > Cape Breton EdBee Luetkens 1841 1890 PRU,DEU> malithre Luetkens 1841 1890 PRU,DEU>PA Looking for the birthplace of August (Ernest) and sister Anna/Johanna Luetkens, born 1841 and 1842, in PRU/HAN,DEU malithre Luna 1700's 1946 mainly Tn but Okla. noraally Lund 1872 now Norway>PA, USA Francesca-Typesetter in Norway, came to USA as nanny. MyLittle Lunt 1850 2007 MD,Many, LA.San Augustine Co.TX ljlee Lusk 1600 now england to west virginia need to know names wolves56 Luskai 1900 now Hungary>Peekskill, NY paternal kimps Luster 1725 Now Tenn.>Va.>Tenn.>Ky.>Mo. In 1889 Okla.Land Rush guymowen Lustig 1890 1930 Aut-Hun>NY,USA koha Lynch 1800 1900 Lynchburg,VA>Hamilton,TN>Harrison,TX>Scott,AR Francis B. Lynch VA to TN, Violet Lynch and Children to TX, Francis Marion Lynch to AR jmetcalf Lynch Ireland USA Boston, MA almed Lynchey C1785 1860 DOW,NI,IOM,UK,NSW,AUS rugby2 Lynchey C1785 C1830 DOW,NI,IOM,UK rugby2 Lyon 1799 1900 Baldernock,STI>Glasgow jamacca Lyons 1850 now RaleighCo,WV mearis See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

    01/13/2008 12:36:24
    1. Re: Godfrey Library
    2. On Jan 7, 9:23 pm, "Bruce Remick" <rem...@cox.net> wrote: > I am considering which level to choose in renewing my online Godfrey Library > subscription.  Could anyone currently using the World Vital Records option > tell me what types of things are covered over and above the standard option? > I notice they dropped access to census records a while ago.  Are these now > included in the "Vital Records"? > > Bruce Hi Bruce, I am trying to figure out the same thing about my Godfrey Library Subscription. So, I joined "Vital Records" at their site on a monthly basis this weekend for $5.95 and I can cancel at any time. I thought I'd try it for a month or so and see if it is worth it. I am not sure yet what to think of it!! :) I did the same with GenealogyBank.com a few months ago and did find it useful for a while and might go back. You can join some of these sites on a monthly basis and cancel if you find it isn't what you wanted and/ or needed or just couldn't afford anymore! Is vital records the only addition to Godfery? I miss the Newspapers the most! Sheila

    01/12/2008 10:37:28
    1. Re: Old Handwriting
    2. Carole Allen
    3. On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 03:10:35 -0000, "SantaUK" <santa@northpole.com> wrote: >Anyone help with this. I'm tracing my tree, and found my great gran >committed suicide, but cant make out the first word in the cause of death >box. Anyone help with ideas? > >http://mmillar0.tripod.com/cod.jpg > >Regards > >SantaUK > > Phenobarbitol poisoning

    01/12/2008 08:32:35
    1. Old Handwriting
    2. SantaUK
    3. Anyone help with this. I'm tracing my tree, and found my great gran committed suicide, but cant make out the first word in the cause of death box. Anyone help with ideas? http://mmillar0.tripod.com/cod.jpg Regards SantaUK

    01/12/2008 08:10:35
    1. Re: Old Handwriting
    2. clifto
    3. SantaUK wrote: > Anyone help with this. I'm tracing my tree, and found my great gran > committed suicide, but cant make out the first word in the cause of death > box. Anyone help with ideas? > > http://mmillar0.tripod.com/cod.jpg Looks like "phenobarbitone poisoning - suicide" -- If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

    01/12/2008 03:59:20
    1. Re: Old Handwriting
    2. Dennis & Bonnie French
    3. "SantaUK" <santa@northpole.com> wrote in message news:01df8fbf$0$16932$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com... > Anyone help with this. I'm tracing my tree, and found my great gran > committed suicide, but cant make out the first word in the cause of death > box. Anyone help with ideas? > > http://mmillar0.tripod.com/cod.jpg > > Regards > > SantaUK Hi Here is my guess Phenobarbital (INN) or phenobarbitone (former BAN) is a barbiturate, first marketed as Luminal by Farbwerke Fr. Bayer and Co. It is the most widely used ... This is from Wikipedia, where of course there is more info than what I have pasted here. Bonnie

    01/12/2008 03:45:39
    1. Re: California records
    2. jburns
    3. Someone else posted a more recent reply but my computer lost it before I could read it. John "jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in message news:haOgj.285$yQ1.128@edtnps89... > Can anyone suggest where I can find some current California addresses? I'm > trying to find a Katherine Smiley who was probably born between 1920 and > 1930. In 1949 she was living in Needles, CA. I've searched numerous online > directories and have come across 2 Katherine Smileys that are the right > age-one in Buena Park and the other in Huntington Beach but I can't find > their address unless I pay money and subscribe. I'm reluctant to this as > I'm not from the USA so wouldn't probably use it again. I want to write to > these people. > John

    01/12/2008 10:18:19
    1. Re: California records
    2. jburns
    3. None of the possibilities were suitable. John John "Joe Pessarra" <joepessarra@suddenlink.net> wrote in message news:4783c301$0$19883$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net... > Sending some possibilities directly to poster. > > Joe > > "jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in message > news:86Pgj.717$vp3.362@edtnps90... >>I wish I had more information. She would be between 77 and 87. Smiley was >>her married name at one point. I can't be certain that still is her >>surname. She was born in Arizona with the surname of Nelson. I don't know >>if she had a middle name. >> John >> "Joe Pessarra" <joepessarra@suddenlink.net> wrote in message >> news:4783b84b$0$19876$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net... >>> >>> "jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in message >>> news:haOgj.285$yQ1.128@edtnps89... >>>> Can anyone suggest where I can find some current California addresses? >>>> I'm trying to find a Katherine Smiley who was probably born between >>>> 1920 and 1930. In 1949 she was living in Needles, CA. I've searched >>>> numerous online directories and have come across 2 Katherine Smileys >>>> that are the right age-one in Buena Park and the other in Huntington >>>> Beach but I can't find their address unless I pay money and subscribe. >>>> I'm reluctant to this as I'm not from the USA so wouldn't probably use >>>> it again. I want to write to these people. >>>> John >>> >>> How can you be certain that the lady in question still has the last name >>> of Smiley? Or, is that a later married name for her? >>> >>> And, you are saying her age is somewhere between 87 and 97? >>> >>> California birth index for 1905 to 1995 show no one of that name born >>> between 1920 and 1930. >>> >>> Do you know a middle name? >>> >>> Will do some more looking, but it would be better if you could give us a >>> little more info. >>> >>> Joe in Texas >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >

    01/12/2008 10:15:55
    1. Re: California records
    2. jburns
    3. I'm not certain that she still has the last name of Smiley. That was her surname in 1949. Smiley isn't the surname of her parents so I am assuming that it is a married name. Her age is between 77 and 87. She wouldn't be on the California birth index under that surname as it is probably her married name. I don't know her middle name. John "Joe Pessarra" <joepessarra@suddenlink.net> wrote in message news:4783b84b$0$19876$bbae4d71@news.suddenlink.net... > > "jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in message > news:haOgj.285$yQ1.128@edtnps89... >> Can anyone suggest where I can find some current California addresses? >> I'm trying to find a Katherine Smiley who was probably born between 1920 >> and 1930. In 1949 she was living in Needles, CA. I've searched numerous >> online directories and have come across 2 Katherine Smileys that are the >> right age-one in Buena Park and the other in Huntington Beach but I can't >> find their address unless I pay money and subscribe. I'm reluctant to >> this as I'm not from the USA so wouldn't probably use it again. I want to >> write to these people. >> John > > How can you be certain that the lady in question still has the last name > of Smiley? Or, is that a later married name for her? > > And, you are saying her age is somewhere between 87 and 97? > > California birth index for 1905 to 1995 show no one of that name born > between 1920 and 1930. > > Do you know a middle name? > > Will do some more looking, but it would be better if you could give us a > little more info. > > Joe in Texas > > > >

    01/12/2008 10:14:49
    1. Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?
    2. clifto
    3. singhals wrote: > clifto wrote: >> singhals wrote: >>>I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's >>>HARVEY, handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) >>>in 1862 in Frederick co. Virginia. The groom's father is >>>given, not his mother, and for her parents it says Unknown. >> >> >> Any chance you could scan it and put it up on the web? >> > > Probably not any time soon. :( Is the hard part scanning, or putting? If faxing it to me and having me scan it and put it up would help you, e-mail me. -- If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

    01/12/2008 09:04:52
    1. Re: 1850/60/70 LU Please?
    2. Huntersglenn
    3. I can only find the family that Bruce found - they aren't in the 1870 that I can find, but the older William Haney and his wife are in Monongalia County, WV in the 1880 Federal Census. No children living with them, though. My husband has some Haneys in his line, and one thing we've found over the years is that enumerators could be most creative when spelling the name and indexers even more creative in spelling it when the enumerator had bad or fancy handwriting. We've seen it as Haney, Hainey, Hainy, Hanie, and Hany to name the most common. Is there a middle initial given for Mary? Where did she die? Does the death record show where she's buried? What was her husband's name? Thanks, Cathy singhals wrote: > I have a marriage record for Mary HANVEY (or maybe it's HARVEY, > handwriting is iffy; county clerk says it's HANEY) in 1862 in Frederick > co. Virginia. The groom's father is given, not his mother, and for her > parents it says Unknown. > > In 1885 I have a death record for her under her married name, giving her > father as William HANBY, and her mother as M.; informant is her brother > William. It says she was 45 and born in VA. > > Problem is ... Using HQ and local GenWeb resources, I can't find a > William Ha* who fits the stated facts on the death certificate. I've > looked at HANVEY, HARVEY, HANEY/HANY, HANVY, HANBY, and HANLEY. I've > looked at all the William and Wm entries ... > > Could some of you have a look-see at Ancestry and see if you can spot > them? They OUGHT to be in Shenandoah, Frederick or Loudoun counties VA > or in Hampshire, Berkeley, or Jefferson counties WV. They COULD be > anywhere in the US. > > Citation only, no need to send the image. > > Many many thanks! > > Cheryl >

    01/12/2008 07:33:03