Is anyone aware of a program that can generate all of the possible spellings for the phonetic sounds in a name? It should include the phonetic variations of the sound, in most common dialects. It should also consider letter degradations. over time, t's degrade to d's. Examples Bur, Ber, Bir could all be pronounced and heard as being the same sound. -- Keith Nuttle 3110 Marquette Court Indianapolis, IN 46268 317-802-0699

On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:15:15 -0600, "brenda parker" <fairplay1951@gmail.com> wrote: >What amazes me the most about genealogists is EVERYBODY from Missouri is >related to one of Jesse James outlaws or Jesse or Frank James. EVERYBODY >from Tennessee has Cherokee Indian blood or is related to Andrew Jackson. >ALL southerners of course fought for the South. > >And NOBODY"s ancestors were just plain every day people who worked hard for >a living. > > I come from a long line of farmers and labourers. I suppose I might have a sixth cousin somewhere who is or was famous, but why would anyone care? -- Jane

"Keith nuttle" <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:imejj.36123$JD.18181@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... > Is anyone aware of a program that can generate all of the possible > spellings for the phonetic sounds in a name? > > It should include the phonetic variations of the sound, in most common > dialects. > > It should also consider letter degradations. over time, t's degrade to > d's. > > Examples Bur, Ber, Bir could all be pronounced and heard as being the same > sound. Don't you trust yourself to take that one on? You should be able to match any program. Do you have any specific names in mind? Bruce

"brenda parker" <fairplay1951@gmail.com> wrote in news:mailman.2151.1200428167.4586.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com: > And NOBODY"s ancestors were just plain every day people who worked > hard for a living. Mine were. :-) Well, most of them. No kings, castles, princes, or fortunes though. It's been a hard job convincing some of my relatives that we had no castle anywhere, or buried treasure for that matter. Seems to me that being able to trace ancestors (via verifiable documents) back to 1597 is the real treasure! ---- saki@ucla.edu http://sakionline.net/familypage

Anybody got any experience with books published by Ancestry.co see http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000WDIQY2/ref=pd_sl_ya_flat_myfam1_40424230_1 Is this another one of those genealogy ripoffs? Looks pretty expensive per page. Jim

saki wrote: > "brenda parker" <fairplay1951@gmail.com> wrote in > news:mailman.2151.1200428167.4586.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com: > > >> And NOBODY"s ancestors were just plain every day people who worked >> hard for a living. >> > > Mine were. :-) Well, most of them. > > No kings, castles, princes, or fortunes though. It's been a hard job > convincing some of my relatives that we had no castle anywhere, or buried > treasure for that matter. > > Seems to me that being able to trace ancestors (via verifiable documents) > back to 1597 is the real treasure! > > > Some of mine were smugglers off the south coast of England (Cornwall) names: May, Pearce, Body, Job. Some were tin miners. Many emigrated to USA, Australia and Canada. One named Body was supposed to have supported the king in clearing out the monasteries and churches... guess which king? Lorna

I am one of the lucky people whose family settled somewhere and stayed. My family has been in Sumner County TN since the 1780's, both sides. On 1/15/08, f/fgeorge <ffgeorge@yourplace.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 14:15:15 -0600, "brenda parker" > <fairplay1951@gmail.com> wrote: > > >What amazes me the most about genealogists is EVERYBODY from Missouri is > >related to one of Jesse James outlaws or Jesse or Frank James. EVERYBODY > >from Tennessee has Cherokee Indian blood or is related to Andrew Jackson. > >ALL southerners of course fought for the South. > > > >And NOBODY"s ancestors were just plain every day people who worked hard > for > >a living. > > > That's because most of those people did live long enough to have > descendants that made any of the books. If you were not on the winning > side of a battle you were either killed or assimilated. Those "every > day people" you speak of were the cannon fodder for battles and didn't > live very long. Now obviously after the middle ages this would not be > true. And lots of us have ancestors that just trudged thru life doing > whatever it is they did having kids along way and those kids > eventually leading down to you and I. But that is after the major land > battles were long over, excepting of course the World Wars. > Lots of people can trace their lineage to Charlemagne and anyone that > thinks the Bible is a true and accurate record can get themselves from > the Romans to Jesus and God. For those of us that tend to not believe > as much in its historical accuracy as others, it is a bit more > difficult. Genealogy is about facts and "every day people" just didn't > leave many for us to follow. Their lives were normal, mundane and > "every day". That is part of the fun of Genealogy, the searching for > that one person, actually there are thousands, that can make that > connection to someone else's genealogy that can extend our own line > for many generations. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Proud member of IBSSG

Bruce Remick wrote: > "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message > news:IdGdncaVCMPHfRHanZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@rcn.net... > >>CWatters wrote: >> >> >>>"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message >>>news:QLydnWBoNI-rvBXanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@rcn.net... >>> >>> >>>>I know we've covered this (g), but be darn if I can find it >>>>in my saved mail or on Google ... and I don't see it in my >>>>hard-copy books soooo: >>>> >>>>I need the dates that it was popular to hand-color film >>>>photographs to look like charcoal drawings. >>>> >>>>Thanks! >>>> >>>>Cheryl >>> >>> >>>Wikipedia suggests hand colouring was done from the 1840s to mid 1950s >>>but >>>after 1920 it was less popular. >>> >>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-colouring >>> >>> >> >> >>Flippit. I guess that explains why I didn't keep careful track of the >>exchange. >> >>I have a wall-sized portrait where the hair has been charcoaled in. The >>woman died in either 1899 or 1885, and I was hoping the date of popularity >>would help pick one. >> >>[For clarity: the woman is the wife-of; he had two wives of the same first >>name, one died in 1885, one in 1899; I'd sort of like to know which one we >>have a picture of.] >> >>Cheryl > > > > I've got a pair of framed sepia-toned portraits of (non-direct) relatives > that have the fine detail of photographs, but also have an airbrushed > charcoal-retouched appearance. They are large 16" x 20" and are on heavy > cardboard. Father (1825-1886) and son (1850 - ), their apparent ages in > the portraits would suggest a time period in the 1870's (the son was married > in 1874), but of course any enhancement work could have been done well after > that. The current owner of the original house in Maine in which they lived > found the two portraits in the attic and gave them to me. > > Bruce > > > > This one is 1/3 of a set (g); the other two don't appear to have been "improved". They were in my grandmother's attic from about 1947 until her death in 1997. She got them from her mother when her mother sold off; her mother took them off the walls of the house where they'd hung since purchase. At one time they were in massive frames, but I can't remember the frames which means they were long-gone by the 1960s. Cheryl

My ancestor Johan Nicholaus Linke's family tree sort of vanishes in Germany abt. that time. They were executing people left and right for witchcraft and heresy. On 15 Jan 2008 20:23:21 GMT, saki <saki@ucla.edu> wrote: > > "brenda parker" <fairplay1951@gmail.com> wrote in > news:mailman.2151.1200428167.4586.alt-genealogy@rootsweb.com: > > > And NOBODY"s ancestors were just plain every day people who worked > > hard for a living. > > Mine were. :-) Well, most of them. > > No kings, castles, princes, or fortunes though. It's been a hard job > convincing some of my relatives that we had no castle anywhere, or buried > treasure for that matter. > > Seems to me that being able to trace ancestors (via verifiable documents) > back to 1597 is the real treasure! > > ---- > saki@ucla.edu > http://sakionline.net/familypage > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Proud member of IBSSG

What amazes me the most about genealogists is EVERYBODY from Missouri is related to one of Jesse James outlaws or Jesse or Frank James. EVERYBODY from Tennessee has Cherokee Indian blood or is related to Andrew Jackson. ALL southerners of course fought for the South. And NOBODY"s ancestors were just plain every day people who worked hard for a living. On 1/15/08, brenda parker <fairplay1951@gmail.com> wrote: > > And people copy things right out of books onto the web/ancestry.com > > On 1/14/08, Texas Gen <texas.gen@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > John wrote: > > > In my experience the trees you find at Ancestry.com<http://ancestry.com/>aren't any more > > > reliable or better cited than the ones at the LDS site. > > > > I don't mean to diminish the efforts of those who want to share their > > research on Ancestry, but I agree with you. When I am absolutely > > certain > > that the tree has an error, I write a [I hope] gracious Post-It to the > > relevant page. I thank them for sharing their research, and then > > mention > > the different information that I have and its source. Sometimes the > > author > > makes the correction, sometimes not. Sometimes the author makes the > > correction, citing me and my own source(s), which is considerate. > > > > Unfortunately we get erroneous information and pass it around so much > > that > > it is finally taken as gospel because it appears in so many places. > > > > Regards, > > > > Donna > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > Proud member of IBSSG -- Proud member of IBSSG

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message news:IdGdncaVCMPHfRHanZ2dnUVZ_tninZ2d@rcn.net... > CWatters wrote: > >> "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message >> news:QLydnWBoNI-rvBXanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@rcn.net... >> >>>I know we've covered this (g), but be darn if I can find it >>>in my saved mail or on Google ... and I don't see it in my >>>hard-copy books soooo: >>> >>>I need the dates that it was popular to hand-color film >>>photographs to look like charcoal drawings. >>> >>>Thanks! >>> >>>Cheryl >> >> >> Wikipedia suggests hand colouring was done from the 1840s to mid 1950s >> but >> after 1920 it was less popular. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-colouring >> >> > > > Flippit. I guess that explains why I didn't keep careful track of the > exchange. > > I have a wall-sized portrait where the hair has been charcoaled in. The > woman died in either 1899 or 1885, and I was hoping the date of popularity > would help pick one. > > [For clarity: the woman is the wife-of; he had two wives of the same first > name, one died in 1885, one in 1899; I'd sort of like to know which one we > have a picture of.] > > Cheryl I've got a pair of framed sepia-toned portraits of (non-direct) relatives that have the fine detail of photographs, but also have an airbrushed charcoal-retouched appearance. They are large 16" x 20" and are on heavy cardboard. Father (1825-1886) and son (1850 - ), their apparent ages in the portraits would suggest a time period in the 1870's (the son was married in 1874), but of course any enhancement work could have been done well after that. The current owner of the original house in Maine in which they lived found the two portraits in the attic and gave them to me. Bruce

And people copy things right out of books onto the web/ancestry.com On 1/14/08, Texas Gen <texas.gen@gmail.com> wrote: > > John wrote: > > In my experience the trees you find at Ancestry.com aren't any more > > reliable or better cited than the ones at the LDS site. > > I don't mean to diminish the efforts of those who want to share their > research on Ancestry, but I agree with you. When I am absolutely certain > that the tree has an error, I write a [I hope] gracious Post-It to the > relevant page. I thank them for sharing their research, and then mention > the different information that I have and its source. Sometimes the > author > makes the correction, sometimes not. Sometimes the author makes the > correction, citing me and my own source(s), which is considerate. > > Unfortunately we get erroneous information and pass it around so much that > it is finally taken as gospel because it appears in so many places. > > Regards, > > Donna > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Proud member of IBSSG

Henry Brownlee wrote: > "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message > news:XMOdnQoy2PZSWRfanZ2dnUVZ_sOrnZ2d@rcn.net... > > | Sigh. Oh well, I've only been working on Mary E for 37 > | years now ... > | > | Cheryl > > Cher, > > Only 37 years?! Well, all things cometh to him that waiteth - as long as he > that waiteth worketh like hell while he waiteth. > (Charlie the barber) > > Henri > Job's comforter, you are, mon vieux. Mille remercies. Cheryl

CWatters wrote: > "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message > news:QLydnWBoNI-rvBXanZ2dnUVZ_gWdnZ2d@rcn.net... > >>I know we've covered this (g), but be darn if I can find it >>in my saved mail or on Google ... and I don't see it in my >>hard-copy books soooo: >> >>I need the dates that it was popular to hand-color film >>photographs to look like charcoal drawings. >> >>Thanks! >> >>Cheryl > > > Wikipedia suggests hand colouring was done from the 1840s to mid 1950s but > after 1920 it was less popular. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-colouring > > Flippit. I guess that explains why I didn't keep careful track of the exchange. I have a wall-sized portrait where the hair has been charcoaled in. The woman died in either 1899 or 1885, and I was hoping the date of popularity would help pick one. [For clarity: the woman is the wife-of; he had two wives of the same first name, one died in 1885, one in 1899; I'd sort of like to know which one we have a picture of.] Cheryl

JD <jd4x4@ wrote: > singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: > > >>I know we've covered this (g), but be darn if I can find it >>in my saved mail or on Google ... and I don't see it in my >>hard-copy books soooo: >> >>I need the dates that it was popular to hand-color film >>photographs to look like charcoal drawings. >> >>Thanks! >> >>Cheryl > > > I never saw the other discussions, and I've never known of the popularity > of a style that imitated charcoal drawings per-se.. but Wikipedia has a > pretty good summary of the dates & techniques used at: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand-coloring > > Hope that helps some. Thanks, I'll check on it. Cheryl

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:53:35 -0800 (PST), Sir Creep <sircreep@hotmail.com> wrote: >singhals wrote: >> Ray wrote: >> >> > I have a couple of questions about the http://www.familysearch.org/ web site >> > which is maintained by the Mormon Church: >> > >> > -- I believe I read somewhere that the site is now closed to future >> > postings. Is this correct? >> > >> >> Sort of. >> Backing up to expand. >> >> Sort of: LDS is working on a replacement to be used for LDS >> purposes by LDS members. All future additions will go into >> that database. How / if that will affect non-member access >> to the familysearch.org site and the data thereon is a >> trifle unclear at the moment. >> >> Cheryl > >So if one isnt' Mormon, the existing lists and future non-Mormon lists >aren't affected (sign-on capabilities aside). Then who gives a hoot >(no offense, my Brethren). I got a little of any religion you can >think of in my tree, but no Mormons. >SC Don't be so quick to assume this isn't relevant. What if a (current) Mormon is descended from one of your ancestors? I have found a couple of their family trees that intersect with mine as few as three generations back. -- Jane

On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:38:39 -0600, "Texas Gen" <texas.gen@gmail.com> wrote: > >Jane wrote: >> >> The only thing I trust without documentation is my mother's word for >> things that occurred within her memory span, because you just have to >> take some things on faith. :-) > >Be careful! > At 99.96, that woman has a memory that most 30 year olds would envy. I check a lot of it, anyway. I just haven't caught her being wrong, yet. -- Jane

December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with M - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Macks 1970 now FL Rusty, Michell, Penny & Yvette Macks - children of Winnipeg & Simon Macks adopted by Arthur & Patrician Macks, their first cousin - birth mom Winnipeg Macks greyhair Macks 1970 now FL>AL Rusty Macks adopted son of Patricia Heck Macks &Arthur Macks (biological parents Simon & Winnipeg Macks ; wife Rebecca Wilkes greyhair Macks 1970 now FL>AL>FL Michelle Macks adopted by Arthur and Patricia Macks; adoption year approximate not birth year of Michelle; Michelle birth Mother Winnipeg Macks - maiden name unknown - bio father Simon Macks greyhair Macks 1970 now florida>AL,USA Rusty Macks Adopted by Arthur & Patricia Macks from Arthurs cousin - Rusty's last name was not changed, no adoption papers greyhair Macks 1970? now FL Penny Macks and Yvette Macks adopted by Helen Macks-Cobb and Cobb husband; other biological Cobb siblings existed when adoption took place; Penny & Evette last name was changed to Cobb; Penny & Yvette of bio sibs of Michelle & Rusty Macks greyhair Macks 1970? now FL Penny Macks and Yvette Macks adopted by Helen Macks-Cobb and Cobb husband; other siblings exists but are unknown greyhair Macks 1971 now AL Rebecca Wilkes husband Rusty Macks children Justin Arthur Macks & Joseph Thomas Macks greyhair Macks unknown now FL>AL>AL Michelle Macks married to Jackie Dell Tinker - two children Tiffany & Sean ( Sean given by adoption to Peggy Pope & husband) greyhair Macks unknown now FL>AL>FL Jeanette Macks married to Frank Colvert - now divorced greyhair Macks unknown now IN>FL>AL>FL Arthur Macks married to Patricia Macks one biological daughter - Jeanette greyhair Magennis 1860 present Glas,SCOT. janeygee Mahue 1888 1930 ON,CAN >Minneapolis MN Donald moved to Nickerson MN Foslien Main 1833 Ct>Ma>Nj>Nb>Sask. 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WA. Bryan Co. OK, Dallas Co. TX ljlee Maulding 1850 2007 Little River Co.AK . WA. Bryan Co. OK, Dallas Co. TX ljlee Mawyer 1700's Now PA>Albermarle/Neson VA.USA cmmawyer Mayer 1824 1895 WPRU,DEU >ChippewaCo,WI,USA jimtell Mayhew 1700 1825 Bramfield,SFK>HackneyMDX Lionel MAYHEW Chr. 1797 prdeath Mayo 1801 1982 Hubb., Berkshire Co., Eng>NY>Barry Co., MI pwcase McCallan 1817 current Scotland to KS teemac McCartney ----- now IRE>USA jstine42 McConnell 1860 1959 DauphinCo,PA>NorthumberlandCo,PA,USA Descendants of George Washington McConnell and Sarah Marsh vmtjoy McConnell IRL PA, USA >Scott Co./Russell Co, VA, USA sandra7 McCord 1750 1793 York County, SC mccordrw McCord 1760 1850 SC >TN York Co. SC to Hickman, Fayette, and Shelby Co., TN mccordrw McCormack 1780 1860 VA to Kentucky buddy77 McCormick 1600 2006 VA>KY,USA Searching all descendents to all states tumphrey McCoy 1800 current VA>WV any info apreciated zrmanns McCoy 1900 2007 CA guthriej McCurdy 1830 1940 AL>AR>TX>OKUSA DOB 1830 wilcox AL DARV McDevitt 1860 IRL>MA>CA Teens2 McDonald 1838 1880 SCT>Pottsville,PA aka McDONNELL jamacca McDonnell 1860 1890 Scot., Canada married Thamas Cowie lullabel McElhinney 1840 2008 IRE > NY, USA koha McElman 1750 2007 IRE>NS,CAN laceyvil McFather 1872 now Moultrie, Ga>FL meday McGehee 1600 2006 VA>KY,USA Searching all descendents to all states tumphrey McGinley 1700 2007 Ireland>NY>NJ,USA ccook3 McGinnis 1850 now SC>Alachua Co, FL, USA adstrom McGrath 1870 1929 1888 married to Dunne bobkate McGrath 1928 Now ANT,NIR>SA,AUS John McGrath born; 1928, Belfast NIR, Father John, mother Mary (Molly) Millar joyleneh McGregor 1881 1960 New York great grand parent sodonn99 McGuire 1700 1800 Ireland>Va Looking for Lawerance McGuire who died at Valley Forge, PA thrushmk McIntyre 1700 1800 Loch Etive area, Argyll,SCT jamacca McKelvey 1780 1863 PA>W.VR,USA connects to Lewis family kileigh3 McKenzie ----- KY Wolfe Co to Powell, to Kenton Co KY Children of Alba; Oliver, Leola, Elsie, Charles, and Sadie McBrewer McKibbin 1851 now EIRE>Can>Mich>Wy, USA cml48 McKinney 1790 2007 VA, Caswell Co. 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SC>KY Elisabeth mag7885 Meschke 1905 Germany lumpa61 Messer 1868 1900 prussia>germany edea Meyer 1820 now DEU>IL>FL,USA bemeyer Micciche 1926 Croatia lumpa61 Michna 1850 1950 Czech>MA pammy60 Middleton 1796 now OswesgoCo, NY>WI>IA>MN middlet1 Mielke 1897 Germany lumpa61 Miles 1800's Now IN>LA>Nassau Co., FL jax1drc Milham 1810 now NY,USA>MI,USA Corpe Miller 1659 1910 Edinburgh, Scotland nicslatt Miller 1800 1900 PA & Ia Looking 4 Jacob Lerner kckatkin Miller 1863 1920 SC>AR>MO>TX USA DOB 1815 SC DARV Miller 1881 now MS?>LA>MS, USA looking for more info on GB Miller Miller44 Miller 1890 1964 TX edwinj Miller 1899 1977 Greenville, SC my great grandfather, hosea lizt13 Miller 1915 1999 TX edwinj Milner 1800 now Harrison Co., KY Ohio Cty, IN bwinings Milsap ----- 1830 SC>GA married to William Wallis chatlake Mislinkevicziute 1860 now LTU>UK London, from Kalvaria mike70 Mislukerh 1880 now LIT>UK Kalvaria LIT, London UK mike70 Mislukivch 1880 LTU>UK London, includes Rose, London, marriage 1916? mike70 Mitchell 1700 now england to usa need to know names wolves56 Mitchell 1804 1881 NC Wilkes Co. NC RomaW Mitchell 1883 now MS>LA looking for more info on Roberta Mitchell Miller44 Mitz 1915 2007 OH>PA>WA, USA dither Mitzel 1775 1950 GY> Rohrbach So Russia> Denver CO > family tradition rkdnkl Mizenchuk Kudrynce Canada Man. & ? lots of info. on Sandy Lake family Rystepha Mizgajska 1800 Prussia/Posen Grzym Mohler 1700 1932 Switzerland>LancasterCo,PA>StarkCo,OH>OsageCo,KS,>DouglasCo,KS,USA buckeyek Monaghan 1884 OFF,IRL>BrooklynNY,USA cfm1 Moncur 1790 1840 Limehouse, LND>NZ Captain James Moncur jamacca Monday 1820 now Tn>Il tripper1 Moore 1728 now Devon>ON>Huron Co William was a shoemaker in ON mar37 Moore 1800 1900 BKM,ENG>AUS verlie Moore 1800 1900 BLM>NZ verlie Moore 1877 Present From Texas to Arkansas Temmie Moore-Newsom FRUITYDS Morales 1900 2007 Nuevo Leon, Mex jproel More 1921 2006 sidhudurga- satara this is my grand father bith date and death date and in this peroid he migrated from sidhudurga to satara, maharashtra, india. pooja Morgan 1734 2007 KY>NC heathson Morgan abt 1800 present SC (Chesterfield Co.) George Morgan m. Eubanks rwp1786 Morris 1776 1942 IN pwcase Morris 1900 now MO>CA Lindyjo Morrison 1844 1953 Scotland>MI pwcase Morrow ----- 1940 GA married Dr. George W. Wallis chatlake Morton 1600 2006 VA>KY,USA Searchng all descendents to all states tumphrey Moseley 1827 TN>MS edwinj Moseley 1860 1914 MS>TX edwinj Moseley 1898 1994 TX edwinj Mossman 1899 GER>Chicago, IL ppincher Motl 1852 1934 1903 Austria,Czechoslovakia,Texas g grandfather child3 Motton 1854 Polkerris>Tywardreath>Belvedere Jane,Mother a Bennett.Lydia, Emily Cozens Mousley 1750 1950 DBY,ENG Shardlow,Aston on Trent sooty28 Moyer 1765 now PA>CattaraugusCo, NY amyalee Muetze 1800 PRU>Louisville, KY>Baxter Springs KS>Chicago, IL ppincher Mugnolo 1881 1881 Gravina-in-Puglia,ITA spangehl Muir 1725 now Scotland>West Virginia bmuir Mullan C1785 1860 DOW,NI,IOM,UK,NSW,AUS rugby2 Mullarkey 1814 1915 IRL>LAN,ENG Liverpool lymmbo Mullen 1800 1936 IRL>?>LancasterCo,PA,USA Ancestors & descendants of Edward and Anna Tinsley Mullen. jailbird Muller 1775 BAD-WUE,DEU gregwein Munday 1820 now Tn>Il tripper1 Muntean 1884 now Romania bgmm888 Murphy 1750 1900 Wicklow,Irl kidja Murphy 1823 1919 IRE;PA;IN Allegheny Co. PA Gene1937 Murphy GB,NS,CA 1936 2006 Jan13 Murphy GB,NS,CA 1955 Ontario Jan13 Murphy now 1838 GA>TX Talking Rock GA Holland TX leannmr Murray 1819 now Miramichi,NB>Summerside,PE>ON>AB,CAN Looking for parents and/or brothers for RICHARD MURRAY -- lived in Miramichi NB -- survived 1825 fire -- moved to PEI -- Died PEI mur1 Murray 1857 present Canada-MI Scotland but no data there DSofLV Musielak 1890 1900 Poland, Guatemala wally059 Môhle c1700 1890 Donnbronn WUE DEU>Wyandot Co,OH in US spelled Måhle jinny Müller Abt 1710 LOT, FRA, Metting Samuel Mueller wlgreene See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

Germantown is listed as one of the townships for that census year, but Goldenthal was not separated out - they only list districts within each township. I did not find the name Demgen in the index, and all of the Williams names were in other townships. No Willems, but I did see a Wilhelm surname in Germantown (headed by a Charlotte). I also browsed through the Germantown pages since there were only 41 of them, and did not see the names you were looking for. Cathy Liz_in_Calgary wrote: > Please, anyone care to look for the names "Demgen" & > "Willems or Williams" in or around "Goldenthal, Germantown, > Washington County, Wisconsin, United States " > > The girls were already married by 1850 but I wonder if their > family was there. So, its very preliminary at this point - > yes or no will do fine. > > Thanks. > Liz > >

Cheers for that folks. Much appreciated.