Thank you, Allen. Your efforts to keep the streets clear are appreciated! I use the Tools >> Block Sender feature in Outlook Express, although I'm not sure that it's effective, as it seems that the same spams just come back through different e-mail addresse. Warmest Regards, Donna

Huntersglenn wrote: > Interesting problem. We had a similar issue with a scrapbook that was > kept by my husband's grandfather - our problem was mostly solved when > the book itself fell apart and we had no choice but to scan the things > that were in it (almost all of the items were newspaper clippings). That's one way to preserve them forever... is to scan them. Newsprint paper is very fragile though... and it is known to fade. Best thing is to mount it on acid free archival paper. > There are programs out there that will let you set up a scrapbook-type > page with photos and other scanned images, and that might be better than > trying to keep all of the originals with the scrapbook pages. My > concern is that the rust that's already on the pages due to the staples > would migrate to anything stored with those pages. But with a program > that would allow you to recreate the look of the scrapbook would be a > good way to preserve the essence of the book. You could then store the > pages separately from the items that had been attached to them. I would re-scrapbook with copies and try to preserve the originals. The rust on the staples is Oxidation and it is very harmful to everything in there. I would try to get rid of the staples using needle tweezers to gently pry and remove them from the paper. I would then remount the originals on acid free paper with archival mounting tape. Do not use liquid adhesives because they can literally lift the print of the old paper. Allen

Lesley Robertson wrote: > You may find that you like 2008 - opinions seem divided. However, amy I > suggest that before you install it, you make copies of your ver 9 files > in a separate folder where FTM won't find them and automatically convert > them to the 2008 system. That way, should you find yourself among the > ones who don't like it, you can still use your old version. If files get > read into 2008, they're saved as such and the only way to go backwards > is to make gedcoms. Family Tree Maker 2008 is much like Windows Vista... NOT YET QUITE READY... I liked what I seen, do not get me wrong, but it's not ready for prime time viewing. Allen

I am trying to get the correct info for the marriage of Frank Brooks and Laura Ann Smith. I was able through other sources to get the 1881 and 1901 Canadian census for this family but am unable to access the Marriage and Birth stuff of Ontario can anyone help me? I am a member of ancestry but don't have access to the Canadian stuff. Any help very much appreciated.

For everyone who is reading this Echo / Newsgroup, I try to filter out as much of the spam as possible and usually get 95% of it... however sometimes it is just not possible to catch everything. The best way to deal with spam when you see it is just ignore it. In an effort to help revive the FidoNet Genealogy echo I am gating this newsgroup. Occasionally spam may make it onto the fido side... but rest assured as a Genalogist I am here reading it and when one crashes the gate I will adjust the filters to help prevent it again. Always remember that a spammer often will NOT read your responses... responding to a spammer only serves to increase the noise-bandwidth. Which in turn creates more junk in the newsgroup, which is what the spammer wants anyways. If you are interested in reading this newsgroup on the derby city BBS you can point your browswer to http://derbycitybbs.com you will not find it under usenet... it is under fidonet as Genealogy. I have read months of this newsgroup and look forward to getting to know the people here and recognize many names from the Fido days long gone by. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 Derby City BBS - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

To: the_verminator@comcast.net Re: Re: Mormon records? ? ? By: the_verminator@comcast.net to alt.genealogy on Fri Jan 18 2008 01:53 pm > > I'm from Tennessee and I have not been able to find Andrew Jackson nor > > any Cherokee in my family. =A0I did find a document that proves I am > > related to Dolly Parton (of all people). > > > Porter once introduced her as " a girl from the hills of east > Tennessee.... and look, she brought the hills with her!" I can say with all confidence that while she has had some enhancement surgery... they are all natural and the surgery that she has had just lifts and separates them to the max. She said one time "why grow old gracefully when you can afford to have things sucked, plucked and tucked." I can also say... with the exception of my mom... that my aunts were all equally as blessed as she. Allen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 Derby City BBS - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

To: Michael Kenefick Re: Re: Which DNA genealogy testing service should I use? By: Michael Kenefick to alt.genealogy on Fri Jan 18 2008 01:32 pm > I do not know the best. But try www.sorenson.org. They are doing free DNA > tests. I do know they will not send you a result. You have to get it > on-line. > That way if you do not like the results or methods they use you can go > with the pay sites. It does appear that you can compare results from other > DNA services with their results. If that site is free I wonder what the quality of their results are compaired to the paid sites... I'm going there now and see what we can find out. Allen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 Derby City BBS - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

To: Bruce Remick Re: Re: Spelling Names By: Bruce Remick to alt.genealogy on Fri Jan 18 2008 12:19 pm > Unfortunately, Soundex searches include many results that don't sound at > all like the name being searched. A Soundex search on REMICK often will > bring many results like Ranch, Rines, Ring, Ryan, etc., none of which sound > at all like REMICK. Further, any automated program would probably overlook > misspellings and misinterpretations in transcribing handwritten names on > documents. I have had incredible luck with Prunty in soundex... I knew from established family history that Charlotte and Emily Bronte were relatives and Charlotte was my GGGGGG Grandmother. I also learned from Soundex that the original spelling was Prontaigh or Brontaigh. Interesting things you learn when you dig up your ancestors.... and I found this with soundex. Allen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 Derby City BBS - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

Poo. I earn more than that without work. Retired government employee. No nasty comments, now. Bruce

Keith nuttle schreef: > Bruce Remick wrote: >> "Keith nuttle" <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message >> news:imejj.36123$JD.18181@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... >>> Is anyone aware of a program that can generate all of the possible >>> spellings for the phonetic sounds in a name? >>> >>> It should include the phonetic variations of the sound, in most >>> common dialects. >>> >>> It should also consider letter degradations. over time, t's degrade >>> to d's. >>> >>> Examples Bur, Ber, Bir could all be pronounced and heard as being the >>> same sound. >> >> >> Don't you trust yourself to take that one on? You should be able to >> match any program. Do you have any specific names in mind? >> >> Bruce >> > The name that I have most trouble with is Hindenlang. It is probably > originated in the area where the present German France and Switzerland > come together. The name came to the Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana area > in the USA in the early 1800's, and has been found in many creative > spelling when it has been found. > > Would appreciate any addition ideas on how it maybe found in the > genealogical records. > > > Maybe you could ask this question in soc.genealogy.german Henry

Incarcerate Bush wrote: > On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:04:40 -0600, clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote: >>Incarcerate Bush wrote: >>> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 14:24:08 -0600, clifto <clifto@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Government officials and activists flying to Bali, >>>>Indonesia, for the United Nations meeting on climate change will cause >>>>as much pollution as 20,000 cars in a year. >>> >>> OMG, we'd better stop any efforts to combat the problem!!! >> >>No, just get the hypocrites out of the picture. >> >>Wait, that would have the same effect. > > But, this is the same ridiculous argument I heard after a Greenpeace > ship (Moby Dick) visited my town. The morons on local radio were > saying Greenpeace was hypocritical because they didn't ROW the ship. > That's just juvenile. Sounds fitting to me. -- If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

"Henry" <h.hermsen@tiscali.nl> wrote in message news:47911305$0$24412$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl... | Keith nuttle schreef: | > Bruce Remick wrote: | >> "Keith nuttle" <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message | >> news:imejj.36123$JD.18181@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... | >>> Is anyone aware of a program that can generate all of the possible | >>> spellings for the phonetic sounds in a name? | >>> | >>> It should include the phonetic variations of the sound, in most | >>> common dialects. | >>> | >>> It should also consider letter degradations. over time, t's degrade | >>> to d's. | >>> | >>> Examples Bur, Ber, Bir could all be pronounced and heard as being the | >>> same sound. | >> | >> | >> Don't you trust yourself to take that one on? You should be able to | >> match any program. Do you have any specific names in mind? | >> | >> Bruce | >> | > The name that I have most trouble with is Hindenlang. It is probably | > originated in the area where the present German France and Switzerland | > come together. The name came to the Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana area | > in the USA in the early 1800's, and has been found in many creative | > spelling when it has been found. | > | > Would appreciate any addition ideas on how it maybe found in the | > genealogical records. | > | > | > | Maybe you could ask this question in soc.genealogy.german | | | Henry Tagging on to this one for sake of convenience: In the New Orleans, Louisiana, area, the name is HINDELANG. (The other) Henry

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On Jan 18, 9:28 am, Allen Prunty <allen.pru...@derbycitybbs.nospam.delme.com> wrote: > brenda parker wrote: > > What amazes me the most about genealogists is EVERYBODY from Missouri is > > related to one of Jesse James outlaws or Jesse or Frank James. EVERYBODY > > from Tennessee has Cherokee Indian blood or is related to Andrew Jackson. > > ALL southerners of course fought for the South. > > I'm from Tennessee and I have not been able to find Andrew Jackson nor > any Cherokee in my family.  I did find a document that proves I am > related to Dolly Parton (of all people). > > The small town that I lived in has a legend of Frank James living there > for about two years incognito... but he did not spread his seed while there. > > Allen Porter once introduced her as " a girl from the hills of east Tennessee.... and look, she brought the hills with her!"

I do not know the best. But try www.sorenson.org. They are doing free DNA tests. I do know they will not send you a result. You have to get it on-line. That way if you do not like the results or methods they use you can go with the pay sites. It does appear that you can compare results from other DNA services with their results. At present, I am waiting for my results from Sorenson. They have not processed it yet. At present, I am also awaiting results the pay DNA service from www.familytreedna.com under the Weaver surname group. Mike in Ohio Thumper wrote: > This may be a dumb question, but which genealogy DNA testing service > should I use? They all seem to be around the same price. But I am more > interested knowing whether the data can exported to other genealogy > services. > > For instance, if I discover that there exists a better database for > people comparing DNA, will I have access to the raw DNA data for my > future use? And which service provides the most comprehensive database > from which to compare your DNA. It seems to me that like any Web 2.0 > service, the one with the most users is de facto the best one. > > I saw a Nightline episode where they featured the company Identigene > (www.dnatesting.com). In Canada, the "DNA Ancestry Combo Package" is > available at Best Buy and The Bay from a company/service called > GeneBase. > > Can anyone recommend "the best" service for ancestry DNA testing?

"clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9omo25-2ij.ln1@remote.clifto.com... > Doug Corbin wrote: >> I used Family Tree DNA as well since that's the company the Corbin DNA >> project is using. You might want to check to see if there's a DNA project >> for your surname. > > Man, I'm disappointed. Only 37 testees for Sharp and not one looks likely > to be related. Kinda seems expensive, too, considering the ubiquity of > DNA testing and the fact that college kids do it in lab. > > -- > Dec. 6 (Bloomberg) -- Government officials and activists flying to Bali, > Indonesia, for the United Nations meeting on climate change will cause > as much pollution as 20,000 cars in a year. Sort of like all the presidential candidates in Iowa bragging about how many towns and cities in that state their entourage will be flying and/or driving to to campaign on such topics as energy conservation and reducing one's carbon footprint. And I can't help wish I had one of those jobs that would let me spend the better part of a year looking for a better one, while not doing what I was being paid for, yet drawing full pay at the same time. Bruce

"Allen Prunty" <nospam@alprunty.com> wrote in message news:uvSdnaiw3pM0XQ3anZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@insightbb.com... >> Is anyone aware of a program that can generate all of the possible >> spellings for the phonetic sounds in a name? > > Wouldn't it be easier to condense it down to a soundex then do a soundex > search? That would get you everything that "sounds like" the name. > > Allen Unfortunately, Soundex searches include many results that don't sound at all like the name being searched. A Soundex search on REMICK often will bring many results like Ranch, Rines, Ring, Ryan, etc., none of which sound at all like REMICK. Further, any automated program would probably overlook misspellings and misinterpretations in transcribing handwritten names on documents. Bruce

"the_verminator@comcast.net" <the_verminator@comcast.net> wrote: -snip- >Well, I got the Ancestry subscription and created my own book... >But Staples refuses to bind it for me! > >Seems thay can't handle a book with 8022 pages and another 429 page >index! -snip- I'll bet they'd do it for you in volumes. [not to say that would be the way to go] I can't imagine anyone *wanting* an 8000 page book, myself. Eighty 100 page books would have much broader appeal than one 8000 page one. Jim

Michelle, Sabrina's Mom wrote: > "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robertson@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message > news:9f73e$473d71bc$83b4502b$21671@news1.tudelft.nl... >> Just a quick reminder since there seems to be a few beginners reading this >> thread. Don't rely on long term storage on CD-Rs. I found a batch of 4 >> yesterday, all of which are unreadable. Fortunately I have all my CDs >> backed up to an external harddrive, so it's easy to burn more. DVDs are >> more stable. If you have to use CDs, make duplicates from different >> manufacturers. The reason all 4 of mine failed at the same time is because >> they all came out of the same box, and thus presumably the same batch. At >> least different batches should fail at different times! >> Lesley Robertson >> > That's helpful advice, thanks Lesley > > Plus when you burn always burn with the verify option... and choose the "close session" option... if you leave the session open you can burn more data on the CD's but if you upgrade software down the line that does your burning or get a new computer you may not be able to read the older discs. ALWAYS ALWAYS close the session when you are sure you want to keep the files. Allen

brenda parker wrote: > What amazes me the most about genealogists is EVERYBODY from Missouri is > related to one of Jesse James outlaws or Jesse or Frank James. EVERYBODY > from Tennessee has Cherokee Indian blood or is related to Andrew Jackson. > ALL southerners of course fought for the South. I'm from Tennessee and I have not been able to find Andrew Jackson nor any Cherokee in my family. I did find a document that proves I am related to Dolly Parton (of all people). The small town that I lived in has a legend of Frank James living there for about two years incognito... but he did not spread his seed while there. Allen