I'm trying to get a 1933 record of a Petition for Naturalization filed in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, which is the federal court in Manhattan. I tried the National Archives website and the NY National Archives website, but neither seemed to have 1933 nat. records. I have the petition number, the individual's name and the petition date. Any ideas? Thanks. Peter

What part of ancestry are you using to create the book?? Could you please elborate. I have always wanted to do a book but have never felt like I knew how to "produce" it. Judy singhals wrote: > the_verminator@comcast.net wrote: > > >> On Jan 16, 7:05 am, Jim Elbrecht <elbre...@email.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>> Buy an ancestry subscription. Create your own book. And have Staples >>> print and bind it. For $30 you could get a very nicely done book- >>> about *your* family. >>> >>> Jim >>> >> Well, I got the Ancestry subscription and created my own book... >> But Staples refuses to bind it for me! >> >> Seems thay can't handle a book with 8022 pages and another 429 page >> index! >> >> Drat! >> >> ;) >> >> P.S. Those are not typos on the numbers... and the book doesn't even >> include the sources and end notes yet! >> >> >> >> > > > Welcome to reality. (g) > > Cheryl > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Allen Prunty wrote: snip > > We have to look for alterntives to keep both usenet and fidonet strong. groups.yahoo.com is the most effective system for special interest groups It has one disadvantage if the group owner dies the groups can not get a new moderator An unhappy group owner can delet it all Rootsweb.com ensures better continuity Hugh W

To: Hugh Watkins Re: Re: Spam in the Group By: Hugh Watkins to alt.genealogy on Sun Jan 20 2008 01:46 pm > groups.yahoo.com is the most effective system for special interest groups > > It has one disadvantage if the group owner dies the groups can not get a > new moderator > An unhappy group owner can delet it all I abhor groups.yahoo.com... they have killed usenet and the other public access nets. People fail to realize that yahoo is not some benevolent corporation... they are an advertising firm first and foremost. They use our participation on groups for market research. Personally I love usenet (except for the spam) and the moderated fido networks. THey give us all so much more flexibility in the long term. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City LiveWire BBS - Lousiville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

To: Frank Vest Re: Spam in the Group By: Frank Vest to Allen Prunty on Sat Jan 19 2008 11:10 am > Sadly, the "To:" field shows as "To: alt.genealogy" when posted with a > newsreader. That makes following replies a bit strange. All messages from usenet are address to ALL regardless of who they are really addressed to (if that makes sense) by haveing alt.genealogy in the to line you know it came from the usenet side. Small inconvienience, but you can get used to it in time. There is a lot of good information there and many of them were former fido Genealogy users... I see many names I recognize. We have to look for alterntives to keep both usenet and fidonet strong. Allen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City LiveWire BBS - Lousiville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

I found an Ardena Brooks and put a copy up on the web for you http://www.geocities.com/pinetree.geo/brooks.html Evleta wrote: > I really appreciate all this help. > I have: > Ardena Brooks, believed to be daughter of Peter and Laura Brooks, > Born: ? ? ? in Colchester, Essex, Ontario, > Died ? ? 1884 in Essex, Ontario. > Could someone please tell me what the full record says. > I am trying to help a friend with his family. > This is the family of the composer, actor, vaudevillian, comedian, > Shelton Brooks who was born in 1886 in Amherstburg, Essex, Ontario. > Thank you very much for the help.

Found what looks like related marriages An Ealine Brooks, born Amherstburg about 1880 to Peter Brooks and Laura Brooks, married John Kersey (a farmer) who was born about 1877, and was from Raleigh, son of Obadia Hersey and Christina Kersey, married 24 Mar 1898 in Kent, both living in Fletcher. A Peter Brooks, a farmer, born 1882 in Amherstburg to Rev. Peter Brooks and Laura Brooks, married Lizzie Robbins born 1883 in North Buxton, to John Robbins and Elizabeth A. Robbins, married 8th of June 1902 in Kent. Both living in North Buxton at time of marriage.

Ardena Brook, died 23 October 1884, she was 6 years old, born in Colchester, Essex, died in Amherstburg, had malignant diptheria for 12 or 13 days, , Informant was a Ben Brooks with a note that this Ben was a laborer in Amherstberg, the death was registered October 24th, she was a Methodist, doctor was Jasper Pask?? The registrar's signature looks like J. Templeton??? The very bottom has a note that looks like "colored parents" M

Also found four children listed to the Peter Brooks - Laura Ann Smith union (nothing for a Frank/Laura). These were Brooks 4 May 1886 Male Essex Peter Brooks Laura Smith Elihu Brooks 26 Dec 1894 Male Kent Rev. Peter Brooks Laura A Smith Laura Ann Brooks 19 Jan 1888 Female Brant Peter Brooks Laura Ann Smith Ruby Brooks 19 Jan 1888 Female Brant Peter Brooks Laura Ann Smith

Henry Brownlee wrote: > "Henry" <h.hermsen@tiscali.nl> wrote in message > news:47911305$0$24412$5fc3050@news.tiscali.nl... > | Keith nuttle schreef: > | > Bruce Remick wrote: > | >> "Keith nuttle" <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > | >> news:imejj.36123$JD.18181@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... > | >>> Is anyone aware of a program that can generate all of the possible > | >>> spellings for the phonetic sounds in a name? > | >>> > | >>> It should include the phonetic variations of the sound, in most > | >>> common dialects. > | >>> > | >>> It should also consider letter degradations. over time, t's degrade > | >>> to d's. > | >>> > | >>> Examples Bur, Ber, Bir could all be pronounced and heard as being the > | >>> same sound. > | >> > | >> > | >> Don't you trust yourself to take that one on? You should be able to > | >> match any program. Do you have any specific names in mind? > | >> > | >> Bruce > | >> > | > The name that I have most trouble with is Hindenlang. It is probably > | > originated in the area where the present German France and Switzerland > | > come together. The name came to the Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana area > | > in the USA in the early 1800's, and has been found in many creative > | > spelling when it has been found. > | > > | > Would appreciate any addition ideas on how it maybe found in the > | > genealogical records. > | > > | > > | > > | Maybe you could ask this question in soc.genealogy.german > | > | > | Henry > > Tagging on to this one for sake of convenience: > > In the New Orleans, Louisiana, area, the name is HINDELANG. > > (The other) Henry > Posted original message I had tried soundex to find the Hindenlang family. My question originally came about because I observed that depending on how you spell the name going into the soundex searches, the results found will be slightly different. I agree with the poster who said some of the soundex returns were quite off base. However a soundex search Hindelang (from the previous post) provide some additional leads on the family. Circumstantially evidence indicates that the mother may have died before 1850, and the father left the boy with family in Pennsylvania when he went west to western New York and Ohio. Whatever it is additional avenues to research. -- Keith Nuttle 3110 Marquette Court Indianapolis, IN 46268 317-802-0699

I really appreciate all this help. I have: Ardena Brooks, believed to be daughter of Peter and Laura Brooks, Born: ? ? ? in Colchester, Essex, Ontario, Died ? ? 1884 in Essex, Ontario. Could someone please tell me what the full record says. I am trying to help a friend with his family. This is the family of the composer, actor, vaudevillian, comedian, Shelton Brooks who was born in 1886 in Amherstburg, Essex, Ontario. Thank you very much for the help.

"Allen Prunty" <nospam@alprunty.com> wrote in message news:zBikj.13252$OC1.369@newsfe20.lga... > Huntersglenn wrote: > >> Interesting problem. We had a similar issue with a scrapbook that was >> kept by my husband's grandfather - our problem was mostly solved when the >> book itself fell apart and we had no choice but to scan the things that >> were in it (almost all of the items were newspaper clippings). > > That's one way to preserve them forever... is to scan them. Newsprint > paper is very fragile though... and it is known to fade. Best thing is to > mount it on acid free archival paper. > >> There are programs out there that will let you set up a scrapbook-type >> page with photos and other scanned images, and that might be better than >> trying to keep all of the originals with the scrapbook pages. My concern >> is that the rust that's already on the pages due to the staples would >> migrate to anything stored with those pages. But with a program that >> would allow you to recreate the look of the scrapbook would be a good way >> to preserve the essence of the book. You could then store the pages >> separately from the items that had been attached to them. > > I would re-scrapbook with copies and try to preserve the originals. The > rust on the staples is Oxidation and it is very harmful to everything in > there. I would try to get rid of the staples using needle tweezers to > gently pry and remove them from the paper. I would then remount the > originals on acid free paper with archival mounting tape. Do not use > liquid adhesives because they can literally lift the print of the old > paper. > > Allen Thanks Allen. I started to remove everything from the book with tweezers the other day. I will have to look for some archival mounting tape. I didn't know it existed. Your suggestions have been very helpful. Michelle

On Jan 16, 6:47 pm, Keith nuttle <keith_nut...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Bruce Remick wrote: > > "Keith nuttle" <keith_nut...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message > >news:imejj.36123$JD.18181@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net... > >> Is anyone aware of a program that can generate all of the possible > >> spellings for the phonetic sounds in a name? > > >> It should include the phonetic variations of the sound, in most common > >> dialects. > > >> It should also consider letter degradations.  over time, t's degrade to > >> d's. > > >> Examples Bur, Ber, Bir could all be pronounced and heard as being the same > >> sound. > > > Don't you trust yourself to take that one on?  You should be able to match > > any program.  Do you have any specific names in mind? > > > Bruce > > The name that I have most trouble with is Hindenlang.  It is probably > originated in the area where the present German France and Switzerland > come together.   The name came to the Pennsylvania, Ohio, Indiana area > in the USA in the early 1800's, and has been found in many creative > spelling when it has been found. > > Would appreciate any addition ideas on how it maybe found in the > genealogical records. > > -- > Keith Nuttle > 3110 Marquette Court > Indianapolis, IN  46268 > 317-802-0699- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Keith, For HINDENLANG, I suggest alternative spellings: HINDELANG, HINDENLANGE, and HINDERLANG. I am the author of the Surname Suggestion List software mentioned in a previous post. I've been developing this software for about 6 months now. I think it does a pretty good job of finding surname variations. I've recently made some changes to the software to incorporate more spelling variations as opposed to purely phonetic variations. This recent effort was largely the result of your posting. It triggered some ideas I've been having concerning enhancing the program. I appreciate your posting. If anybody has some good ideas for enhancing the program, let me know. I can always use the advice of my fellow genealogy enthusiasts. Matt Combs Lewisville, NC http://home.triad.rr.com/combsfamily/sslmain.html

Evleta wrote: > I am trying to get the correct info for the marriage of Frank Brooks > and Laura Ann Smith. I was able through other sources to get the 1881 > and 1901 Canadian census for this family but am unable to access the > Marriage and Birth stuff of Ontario can anyone help me? I am a member > of ancestry but don't have access to the Canadian stuff. Any help very > much appreciated. The only Brooks I can find who married a Laura Ann Smith is Peter. Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about Peter Brooks Name: Peter Brooks Spouse Name: Laura Ann Smith Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1873 Marriage Place: Colchester Township Delay Year: 1874 Registration Number: 52627 Note: By matching sources, marriage locations, and marriage dates, we have determined that Laura Ann Smith is the potential spouse of Peter Brooks. Source: Indexed by: Genealogical Research Library Ontario, Canada Marriages, 1857-1924 about Peter Brooks Name: Peter Brooks Birth Place: Us Age: 23 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Father Name: Edmond Brooks Mother Name: Susannah Brooks Spouse Name: Laura Ann Smith Spouse's Age: 20 Spouse Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853 Spouse Birth Place: Us Spouse Father Name: Daniel Smith Spouse Mother Name: Naomi Smith Marriage Date: 22 Dec 1873 Marriage Place: Essex Marriage County: Essex Family History Library Microfilm: MS932_13

Allen Prunty <allen.prunty@derbycitybbs.nospam.delme.com> wrote: > I'm from Tennessee and I have not been able to find Andrew Jackson nor > any Cherokee in my family. I did find a document that proves I am > related to Dolly Parton (of all people). > > Allen Mmmmmm... Dolly Parton! I love her. She's so bubbly & down-to-earth.. kind of! When you next see her tell her I'm in love, and to keep up her.. uh, "improvements"! :-)

To: Allen Prunty On (18 Jan 08) Allen Prunty wrote to All... Hello Allen, AP> For everyone who is reading this Echo / Newsgroup, I try to filter out AP> as much of the spam as possible and usually get 95% of it... however AP> sometimes it is just not possible to catch everything. AP> The best way to deal with spam when you see it is just ignore it. AP> In an effort to help revive the FidoNet Genealogy echo I am gating AP> this newsgroup. Occasionally spam may make it onto the fido side... AP> but rest assured as a Genalogist I am here reading it and when one AP> crashes the gate I will adjust the filters to help prevent it again. AP> Always remember that a spammer often will NOT read your responses... AP> responding to a spammer only serves to increase the noise-bandwidth. AP> Which in turn creates more junk in the newsgroup, which is what the AP> spammer wants anyways. AP> If you are interested in reading this newsgroup on the derby city BBS AP> you can point your browswer to http://derbycitybbs.com you will not AP> find it under usenet... it is under fidonet as Genealogy. AP> I have read months of this newsgroup and look forward to getting to AP> know the people here and recognize many names from the Fido days long AP> gone by. Sadly, the "To:" field shows as "To: alt.genealogy" when posted with a newsreader. That makes following replies a bit strange. Regards, Frank http://collincountystation.com Disclaimer: You realize, of course, that all of us could be wrong? --- PPoint 3.01 * Origin: Holy Cow! I'm A Point!! (1:124/6308.1) --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City LiveWire BBS - Lousiville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

Sorry, I posted the wrong address for the Sorenson folks. The correct address is http://www.smgf.org/. Mike Kenefick in Ohio Michael Kenefick wrote: > I do not know the best. But try www.sorenson.org. They are doing free > DNA tests. I do know they will not send you a result. You have to get > it on-line. That way if you do not like the results or methods they use > you can go with the pay sites. It does appear that you can compare > results from other DNA services with their results. > > At present, I am waiting for my results from Sorenson. They have not > processed it yet. > > At present, I am also awaiting results the pay DNA service from > www.familytreedna.com under the Weaver surname group. > > Mike in Ohio > > Thumper wrote: > >> This may be a dumb question, but which genealogy DNA testing service >> should I use? They all seem to be around the same price. But I am more >> interested knowing whether the data can exported to other genealogy >> services. >> >> For instance, if I discover that there exists a better database for >> people comparing DNA, will I have access to the raw DNA data for my >> future use? And which service provides the most comprehensive database >> from which to compare your DNA. It seems to me that like any Web 2.0 >> service, the one with the most users is de facto the best one. >> >> I saw a Nightline episode where they featured the company Identigene >> (www.dnatesting.com). In Canada, the "DNA Ancestry Combo Package" is >> available at Best Buy and The Bay from a company/service called >> GeneBase. >> >> Can anyone recommend "the best" service for ancestry DNA testing? > >

Bruce Remick wrote: > "Allen Prunty" <nospam@alprunty.com> wrote in message > news:uvSdnaiw3pM0XQ3anZ2dnUVZ_rfinZ2d@insightbb.com... > >>>Is anyone aware of a program that can generate all of the possible >>>spellings for the phonetic sounds in a name? >> >>Wouldn't it be easier to condense it down to a soundex then do a soundex >>search? That would get you everything that "sounds like" the name. >> >>Allen > > > Unfortunately, Soundex searches include many results that don't sound at all > like the name being searched. A Soundex search on REMICK often will bring > many results like Ranch, Rines, Ring, Ryan, etc., none of which sound at all > like REMICK. Further, any automated program would probably overlook > misspellings and misinterpretations in transcribing handwritten names on > documents. > > Bruce > > Yeah. You gotta be pretty drunk to say CRESAP so it sounds-like Crazy Bull (one of the names that pops up in Soundex lists). Cheryl

To: Michelle, Sabrina's Mom > Thanks Allen. I started to remove everything from the book with tweezers > the other day. I will have to look for some archival mounting tape. I > didn't know it existed. Your suggestions have been very helpful. > Michelle Here's a good article... but I would strongly recommend using the sprays to remove the acid... your articles are old and the paper may not hold up to soaking. I use the Archival mist and the krylon make it acid free. Allen --- http://scrapbooking.families.com/blog/preserving-newspaper-clippings have found myself inundated with hundreds of newspaper clippings that I'd love to include in my scrapbooks. Some are from so long ago, that I'm not even sure of the dates or time period, and some are from recently, like when my cousin was in the paper with his professional soccer team, or when my son was born and my mother in law submitted his photo to her local newspaper. Regardless of what I want, placing newspaper clippings in my albums is extremely unsafe. The amount of acid in those clippings is absolutely crazy. A newspaper utilizes the most cost-effective way to get tens of thousands of papers published everyday. This means using recycled papers and papers high in acid content. Just look at a newspaper clipping that is even just five or ten years old. Typically you should see yellowing around the edges, or the entire piece might have turned yellow. The reason for this is that paper is made from wood, and that wood is made up of almost all white cellulose. Wood also has lignin along with the cellulose. When the lignin is exposed to air and sunlight, it turns the paper yellows. But there is hope for me, and others who wish to preserve these memories. Here are a few options: Archival Mist and Krylon There is a product called Archival Mist. And a newer one by Krylon called "Make It Acid Free", found at paint stores. Most scrapbookers swear by these sprays, but they can be an expensive option. If you don't have a lot of newspaper clippings this product might work well for you, because it will last a long time. You will be able to save it for future newspaper clippings. The solutions in these products neutralize the acid in the paper, stopping it from becoming yellow and brittle. Scanners This is probably the easiest way to do it. Just scan your newspaper clipping into the computer and print. The best part of this is that you can adjust the coloring, crop out any unwanted print, resize and generally change many aspects of your scan. Then just print it out on acid-free paper and you can trim and adhere to your layout. If you don't have a scanner, just take it to Kinko's or another print shop and they can do it for you. You might need to provide the paper though. Homemade Solution You can actually make your own de-acidification solution. Many genealogists swear by this method and it's probably more cost-effective than using the marketed spray products. Start by mixing milk of magnesia with soda water in a shallow container. Let the mixture stand for about 12 hours or overnight. Do not place anything into the mixture at this point. After the 12 hours, place newspaper clippings into the solution and allow to soak for one hour. Very carefully remove it after the hour and place on a clean, flat surface. I recommend placing it on paper towels to help absorb the moisture from beneath. Very carefully pat the clipping with a paper towel, and whatever you do, do not rub it - this will rub the surface ink and paper off and you will wind up with a ruined clipping. Leave it to dry on it's own for several hours. You might wish to place a paper towel on top and then several heavy books to keep the clipping flat as it begins to dry. Then test with an acid-free pen. It should work great and is an easy alternative to those expensive sprays. You should now have several great methods for preserving those clips and adding them to your albums safely. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City LiveWire BBS - Lousiville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with Q - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Quelch england australia camra Quick 1651 now Cornwall, UK>AUS>Nevada Co., CA Paul> cetuo67 Quigley 1832 1876 1841 married to rooney bobkate See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.