It looks good now! -- Baal I smile and go off waving (Amiably) - for that's my way "Michael Kenefick" <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:47951B7E.6000207@sbcglobal.net... > alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making me re-enter > user name and password, then still not connecting. What a pain. Does any > one know whom the actually host of this newsgroup is? > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com

Christopher Jahn wrote: > Michael Kenefick <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote in > news:47951B7E.6000207@sbcglobal.net: > >> alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making >> me re-enter user name and password, then still not connecting. >> What a pain. Does any one know whom the actually host of >> this newsgroup is? >> > > No such animal. The server you're having problems with is the > one you're connecting to. The rest of us probably aren't > connecting to it. I was gonna guess he was connecting through one of those website "forums". -- If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

Why not seek the 1926 death cert. for the man who died in NJ? That should (hopefully) give his parents' names so you can match him to the man from GA. Joy JDLail wrote: > On Jan 8, 8:47 am, Christopher Jahn <xj...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >>JDLail <JDL...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:198d97ae-d859-44a5-9b85-e10ac512bb13@m77g2000hsc.googlegroup >>s.com: >> >> >> >> >>>I have a case where one of my family (Confederate) from >>>Georgia was captured in the Civil War, taken to >>>Fort Columbus (NY City area), took the oath of allegiance, and >>>was released in Sept 1863. He never came >>>home. His four children were scattered between the paternal >>>grandparents and the mother. >> >>>However a man with his name shows up in Northern New Jersey >>>within months of his 1863 release . He >>>married and remained in Morris Co. NJ until his death in 1926. >>>So its reasonable to suspect that these >>>are the same guy. The surname here (Lail) was exceedingly rare >>>at that point in time and the given name >>>(James) had never been used before in the family, >> >>>This James appeared in 5 New Jersey census records from >>>1870-1920. In all cases he lists his birthplace >>>as Georgia. In all cases but one he lists his fathers >>>birthplace as Georgia as well. The exception being >>>1920 when he gave it as North Carolina. And finally In all >>>cases but one he gives a birth year ca. 1846-7. >>>The exception being 1880 when he gave 1836-7 for his birth. >> >>>The James missing from my family was born 1834-7 in Tennessee >>>but was raised in Georgia. The family >>>moved there ca. 1842. His father was born in NC. So do I have >>>enough proof ? Thanks. >> >>Census data can never be *proof*; not only do they not require >>documentation, you have no way of knowing who provided the >>information. Was this person REALLY James Lail, or someone >>pretending to be him? The census taker wouldn't know; they may >>not even have ever talked to him. Neighbors often provide the >>information, and they don't always know. >> >>While I think this is probably your guy, you need corroborating >>evidence to have "proof." What you have now is only evidence. >>But knowing where he was living, you know where to concentrate >>you efforts for more evidence. > > > > As to proof: The widow of the James Lail in Georgia received public > assistance because her husband was reported as killed at Morris > Island SC in Aug 1863. His unit on that documentation was SC 1st > Reg Co. H. > > The James Lail who was captured was also from SC 1st Reg Co. > H. and was captured at Morris Island SC in Jul 1863. > > So the guy who was released in Sept 1863 is the same as the > guy from Georgia. The question is whether he is the same as the > guy in New Jersey. So far the consensus seems to be that I > need a little more proof

On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:17:09 -0500, Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote: >The problem is with your internet provider and not with alt.genealogy. >However, to answer your question, googlegroups owns/controls the usenet >newsgroups, so if you have difficulties getting the newsgroup via your >internet provider, then you can go to googlegroups, search for >alt.genealogy and read there. I think you have to register with >googlegroups in order to reply to a message, but I'm not 100% sure on >that. Be warned that if you do go to use alt.genealogy via >googlegroups, you'll see a heck of a lot of spam. > >Cathy > Google neither owns nor controls usenet, but is one of many news servers. It does keep messages indefinitely, unlike most other news servers. -- Jane

Google bought the rights to archive the usenet discussion groups (when they bought Deja News) and can eliminate those archives at any time. While that might not equate ownership, it definitely equates control. Cathy Christopher Jahn wrote: > Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in > news:fK9lj.33569$Ft5.9009@newsfe15.lga: > > >>However, to answer your question, googlegroups owns/controls >>the usenet newsgroups, > > > No, it doesn't. No one does. Interesting unfounded wild-assed > guess, though. >

Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in news:0kalj.25446$hO4.12854@newsfe19.lga: > Google bought the rights to archive the usenet discussion > groups (when they bought Deja News) and can eliminate those > archives at any time. While that might not equate ownership, > it definitely equates control. Cathy No, they didn't. They bought an ARCHIVE, period. They did not buy any "exclusive" rights, because no one owns those rights. Anyone can start a Usenet archive anytime they like. In fact, DejaNews was not the only archive; they bought up some of their competition before going belly-up. Maintaining a complete archive is expensive, and there's not a lot of profit in it. But the archive isn't Usenet, the archive isn't crucial to Usenet, and I'll even go so far as to say that the archive is actually irrelevant to Usenet. Usenet is about COMMUNICATION, not storage. Google can only control their archives, they have absolutely no control over Usenet, or the messages retained on the tens of thousands of usenet servers around the planet. That's the entire point of Usenet; NO ONE controls it, and NO ONE can destroy it. It's not centralized, and its connections are random and infinitely redundant. Global thermonuclear war MIGHT do it if you destroy every single computer or power source on the entire planet. Nothing less can do it. -- }:-) Christopher Jahn {:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/ Horniness is a quintessential example of hope.

The problem is with your internet provider and not with alt.genealogy. However, to answer your question, googlegroups owns/controls the usenet newsgroups, so if you have difficulties getting the newsgroup via your internet provider, then you can go to googlegroups, search for alt.genealogy and read there. I think you have to register with googlegroups in order to reply to a message, but I'm not 100% sure on that. Be warned that if you do go to use alt.genealogy via googlegroups, you'll see a heck of a lot of spam. Cathy Michael Kenefick wrote: > alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making me re-enter > user name and password, then still not connecting. What a pain. Does > any one know whom the actually host of this newsgroup is? >

Michael Kenefick <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote in news:47951B7E.6000207@sbcglobal.net: > alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making > me re-enter user name and password, then still not connecting. > What a pain. Does any one know whom the actually host of > this newsgroup is? > No such animal. The server you're having problems with is the one you're connecting to. The rest of us probably aren't connecting to it. Google "usenet message propagation" to learn how Usenet works. -- }:-) Christopher Jahn {:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/ If opportunity knocks, go to bed with your pants on.

Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in news:fK9lj.33569$Ft5.9009@newsfe15.lga: > However, to answer your question, googlegroups owns/controls > the usenet newsgroups, No, it doesn't. No one does. Interesting unfounded wild-assed guess, though. -- }:-) Christopher Jahn {:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/ If opportunity knocks, go to bed with your pants on.

alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making me re-enter user name and password, then still not connecting. What a pain. Does any one know whom the actually host of this newsgroup is?

Thankyou CWatters and Tony! Have been looking for Maria Chapman in Australia and her sister Nancy in California for so long...and they were in Hawaii!! I have been looking for their mother Ann Kemble Chapman nee Tree. I know she came to South Australia in April 1868 and worked as a teacher but she has fallen off the branch. Family notes claim she was in California in 1900 and that she lived until she was 90...this would have her in California. I can't believe she would be tripping around the world at 90 years of age! They also say Nancy Rhodes wrote a letter from San Jose in May 1900 explaining Mary (daughter if Charles and Ellen Kean) Logie's will. Did Ann die in California, London or South Australia?...or Hawaii maybe?

Michael Kenefick wrote: > alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making me re-enter user > name and password, then still not connecting. What a pain. Does any one know > whom the actually host of this newsgroup is? Usenet. You need to ask this in news.newusers.questions. -- If John McCain gets the 2008 Republican Presidential nomination, my vote for President will be a write-in for Jiang Zemin.

"Michael Kenefick" <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message news:47951B7E.6000207@sbcglobal.net... > alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making me re-enter user > name and password, then still not connecting. What a pain. Does any one know > whom the actually host of this newsgroup is? Unmoderated newsgroups don't have a centraly controlling host.

pfnolan@cox.net wrote: > I'm trying to get a 1933 record of a Petition for Naturalization filed > in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, > which is the federal court in Manhattan. I tried the National > Archives website and the NY National Archives website, but neither > seemed to have 1933 nat. records. I have the petition number, the > individual's name and the petition date. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks. > > Peter So try the archives of the US District Court in Manhattan. It's distinct from the NARA holdings. Cheryl

Jim Elbrecht wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:38:28 -0600, Judy Arnold <judith@omuonline.net> > wrote: > > >>What part of ancestry are you using to create the book?? Could you >>please elborate. I have >>always wanted to do a book but have never felt like I knew how to >>"produce" it. > > > From the description on Amazon it sounds to me like the Ancestry books > are just data dumps- Pick a surname- > Chapter 1; Elbrecht's in US Censuses > Probably listed by year with no regard to time or place. > Chapter 2; Immigrant Elbrecht's; > A copy/paste of all the Elbrechts on shiplists > [and so on] > > My suggestion to 'get an Ancestry subscription and make your own' may > have been misleading. The Ancestry subscription just gives you > access to all the data that is contained in the $30 book that the OP > asked about. If you wanted to do the same 'data dump' you could do > it cheaper than $30- but few of us would be interested. [and you could > get the same information for all the names in your database for the > annual fee] > > The subscriber's job is to sort out what info is pertinent to their > family- and hopefully integrate a whole lot more sources to their > research. Then they enter it into their favorite genealogy program. > > All the program's I've seen have 'book' [often called report] making > capabilities of some sort. The one I use most often, with Steed's > Brother's Keeper, is called an "Ancestor Ahnentafel Book". If I > use my kids as the first folks it creates an rtf file that I can edit > in Word. I can ask it to be brief and include just the basics- > B-D-M, siblings - or I can ask it to include all notes and children of > their ancestors. [just as an example I tried this this morning- the > complete listings create a 230 page book before editing- the brief > version, no notes, only ancestors & sibs, is 29 pages.] > > Once created I can edit the 'book' in Word. BK makes an excellent > index of the people, but I might add some things to the index like > keywords to stories I find interesting. Since I'm probably doing > this for a particular audience, usually a group of less than 10- I can > customize it any way I want. > > I use word to create chapters labeled 'Parent', 'Grand Parents', . . . > . '13th Great Grand Parents'. I write an single page intro directed > at my mini-audience - [usually begging for corrections and additions, > and maybe drawing their attention to some new tidbit I think they'll > find interesting. I also explain how the ahnentafel numbers work so > if they are browsing through they can move back and forth by family.] > > Then I take the file to Staples and ask them to print and bind them. > The bindings at my local Staples range from clear floppy pages to hard > cover, full color covers. I've gone with the cheaper bindings on > the assumption that I'm not done yet. The last one I did was 130 > pages of my father's ancestors. With the floppy bindings, I got 5 > books for $12.50 each- and they were ready in 3 hours. > > That was *my* point- Cheryl seems to spend a lot more time playing > editor than I so she will probably have something good to add - or > disagree with.<g> > > I probably shouldn't ask because I doubt I'll be interested in > learning a new Word processing program- but for the benefit of anyone > who hasn't gotten used to a program. . . > What program does anyone else do their editing in? I know some folks > like making pdf's - does anyone use Publisher [why?] - What are > Word's shortcomings? > > Jim (G) Since I don't have Ancestry, and have never even looked at their book options, my comment was addressed at the 8000-page book no one would bind. (g) The functional binding limit is roughly 1064 pages of "normal weight" paper. This is about 3-inches thick. You wouldn't want to try to hold onto a bigger book anyway. (g) [Note to the obsessive: yes, heavier weight paper will lower the page count and thinner paper will raise it, and enamel will lower it, archival will lower it, method of binding will lower it ... 1064 is for hand-sewn traditional hardcover binding.] For-my-sins, for my many sins, yes, I've done a lot of editing. :( The first important thing anyone planning a book project needs to know is: if you're doing a 12-generation, all descendants book, and you've got more than a couple thousand people /OR/ you've got copious source citations with signicant chunks of quotations on each and/or you've lots of narrative in the notes/history fields ... you need a DOCUMENT processor, not a WORD processor. The difference is in the size of the document it'll handle. Neither WP nor Word were happy with an 8-meg document. WordPerfect is somewhat easier on the nerves than WORD, because it gives you more typographical details on the layout and presentation. REVEAL CODES tells you a lot more than the paragraphsign. Most programs will produce a book, either of descendants or of ancestors. IF you've been very careful and clearly marked what you want to print and what you don't, AND IF the program does what it's supposed to, there shouldn't be much editing required. In my case, the second half of that was False, so I had a choice of NO notes or ALL notes; I then had to edit out most of the ALL notes. (Wish I'd thought to just GED the Tagged notes into a clean database ...) I'm finding that most my subsequent "books" have been The Ancestors of... it gives my nephews ALL their ancestry, not just what they share with my son. It's also the Ahnentafel format which is a little easier to explain (g), and easy to expand on editorially. I do these usually for either Christmas or birthdays every few years. Recently, I began putting them in paper, pocket-binders; I used to just print a fancy cover page, staple them together, roll each one up and tie it with a piece of ribbon. Once you print out three generations of family, say the three generations from 1880 forward?, you'll see why copious citations and annotations are unpopular with those who publish. I can have four pages of documentation for three lines of fact. (See also, Dick Pence's article that includes Bob Sawyer's "Cousin Lucy", now under discussion in soc.gen.computing) Cheryl

tuttipole wrote: > Dear users, > I´m trying to find brothers and sisters of my ancestor, Johann Peter > Hoffmann.(1790-1848) who lived and died > in Estonia. > Youll find info on J.P.Hoffmann > at > http://myyriku.blogspot.com:80/2007_02_23_archive.html > and at > http://www.familiehoffmann.homepage.t-online.de/FamilyHoffmann.htm off topic here unless they lived in UK at some point see http://www.eha.ee/english/english.htm Estonian State Archives Eesti Riigiarhiiv http://riigi.arhiiv.ee/ Kontaktinfo Maneezi 4, Tallinn 15019 Tel (+372) 693 8111 (+372) 693 8000 Faks (+372) 661 6230 e-post riigiarhiiv@ra.ee at least the latin or german based words are guessable :-) Hugh W

On Jan 20, 11:46 pm, "Allen Prunty" <allen.pru...@derbycitybbs.com.remove-ahr-this> wrote: > To: pfnolan > Re: Naturalization Record in US Ct. for So. Dist. of NY > By: pfnolan to alt.genealogy on Sun Jan 20 2008 05:01 pm > > > I'm trying to get a 1933 record of a Petition for Naturalization filed > > in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, > > which is the federal court in Manhattan. I tried the National > > Archives website and the NY National Archives website, but neither > > seemed to have 1933 nat. records. I have the petition number, the > > individual's name and the petition date. > > Please give us what you have and perhaps someone can look it up for you. > > Allen > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS > -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather > --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 > * Derby City LiveWire BBS - Lousiville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com The name of the petitioner was William Kuperman, the petition no. was 202941, and the petition was filed on 17 Apr 1933. Again, the court was the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of NY. Thanks for your help. Peter

December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with R - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Raab 1833 now BAY, DEU>MD, USA waldonia Radel 1789 1926 Germany-NY-MI DSofLV Rademacher 1857 Now Prussia, Germany>MN kimmrg Rainey 1800 1940 NJ,USA dadesro Ramos 1825 1929 Zacatecas, Mex>TX>KS discpain Ramos Mex Calif. 1900's Ramos/Martinez deljmar Ranczka 1906 Now Poland>MN kimmrg Randall 1500 1850 IR>NJ>OH Guernsey, OH Reices50 Randall 1833 2007 Allegeney PA>IL>IA marbar53 Rannells 1800 1885 ?>MO, USA misskity Rawls 1760 1850 Petersburg,VA>SC>NC>TN>IL>MO>KS,USA Luke skaley Rawson 1844 1944 ON,CAN > NY > MI > WA elarson Ray 1800 1900 Massachusett to Texas sdhill24 Reading 1795 now DE>OH>IN>IL>IA>KS>MO>OK,USA George/Elizabeth Helton ceagle52 Reddick 1855 now GA>Alachua Co, FL,USA adstrom Redman 1873 Ind jalapeno Reece 1826 1911 Kingston>Wyoming ON Mary Loretta (nee Martinelli). seeking descendants of her and husband James fredgg Reed 12/1858 07/1906 Born & Died Jamaica Saddler1 Reed 1754 1838 Fredk. MD; York PA; Carroll MD Jacob Reed/Ried (1754-1838) Children: Mary, Frana, George (1782-1857), Elizabeth. LReid54 Reese 1817 now PA>IA>MO>OK orlar Reichert 1750 1990 Wue,Deu>Rohrbach So Russia> Denver CO> St. Francis Kansas USA verified by archive records in Russia, and USA rkdnkl Reigstad 1847 Now Norway>WI, USA>MN, USA http://kimzplace.info kboe Reiman 1800 1940 NJ,USA dadesro Reinoso 1900 2007 LaSandia,MX,CA,ILL,KAN,TX pgodinez Reitlinger 1876 now Ulmerfeld,AUT>WIE,AUT nzvienna Reitlinger 1876 now Ulmerfeld,AUT>WIE,AUT Karl (b. 1876) had 3 daughters with Elisabeth Rimmel (from Parndorf). Daughter Elisabeth (b.1906) married Konrad Neugebauer (b. 1903 in CZE) in Vienna & had 2 sons & 2 daughters. nzvienna Renner 1865 1974 IN, USA dither Rescigno 1837 2007 Tunisia>NY>IL byeoman Reshtefaniuk Kudrynce Manitoba 1900 to Sandy Lake know all desc. Rystepha Reuther 1900 now Germany>WestchesterCo, NY maternal kimps Reynolds 1837 now Kings Co. Ireland>Australia Elizabeth dau.of Chas Reynolds and Catherine Madden jopaul Reynolds 1860 1880 Wisconsin>Kansas>Wisconsin wmbauman Rhodes ----- present have a book Pswife Rhodes 1880 2007 Irland Waterville OH Jsn Ricard 1865 1950 Can/Oh/Mo/ ewric Riccetti 1886 1934 Verbicaro, Cosenza, Calabria, ITA>San Francisco, CA>Oakland,CA,USA Wildhare Rice 1816 1881 DOW,NIR>LND,ENG>YKS,ENG Newry, London, York lymmbo Rice 1830 now Putnam County, OH kgm3 Rice 1900 2007 CA guthriej Richard 1854 Now Wisc/Neb/elsewhere Same family/diff. spelling rollie21 Richards 1854 Now Wisc/Neb/elsewhere Same family/diff. spelling rollie21 Richardson 1805 1851 Rothbury, Northumberland djmncle Richardson 1830 present Ashe,NC Emerintha Richardson, b Feb 1830, d. about 1920-30 Ashe, NC tmello Richardson abt 1823 1958 NC (Union Co.) G. Richardson m. STEWART rwp1786 Richart 1832 1870 Carroll Co. Oh emimgrated to orther states rollie21 Richart 1854 Now Fond du Lac/Sheboygan Co WI Wisc. & Nebraska rollie21 Richerdt 1816 Now Alsace, Fr Some still living in Alsace rollie21 Richerson 1894 present Ky jalapeno Richert 1695 1816 Haut Rhin, Alsace, Fr From village of Bouxwiller rollie21 Richie 1666 1826 Ireland>Pa.>Va.>Tenn. Dandridge, Tenn. guymowen Rider 1771 1850 MD>PA>OH,USA kileigh3 Ried 1754 1838 Fredk. MD; York PA; Carroll MD acob Reed/Ried (1754-1838) Children: Mary, Frana, George (1782-1857), Elizabeth. LReid54 Rimmel ----- now Parndorf,AUT>WIE,AUT nzvienna Rimmel ----- now Parndorf,AUT>WIE,AUT Elisabeth had 3 daughters with Karl Reitlinger (b. 1876). Died young during operation. Daughters moved to Vienna. Daughter Elisabeth (b. 1906) married Konrad Neugebauer (b. 1903 in CZE) & had 2 sons and 2 daughters. nzvienna Ring 1850 now IRL>IND>AUS Descendents and antecedents of Francis Joseph William Ring and Bridget Cunningham dig17 Rintel c1840 now Trembowla, Welica, AUT-HUN>NYC, USA gspiegel Riolo 1915 1966 piana degli albanesi-NY-san jose, ca spilidoni riolo married to vita petrotta vansdelu Rippetoe 1792 1954 VA>TN>MO Franklin Co. VA, Benton & St. Clair Co. MO RomaW Rippy 1846 1882 Laclede Co, MO m Hamilton Montgomery Frank 1862 mag7885 Ritzman 1834 1949 BerksCo,>Schuylkill Co,PA,USA Sarah d/ of Peter and Sarah nitabatz Roach 1750 1835 IR>VR>KN,USA connects to Hendrickson kileigh3 Roach 1834 1914 BRK,ENG>LDN,ENG>WIL,ENG mguest Roan 1800s 1926 JeffersonCo,MS>ClaiborneCo,MS>CopiahCo,MS,USA John Lafayette Roan(e) rfurr Robbins 1800 2007 PA marbar53 Robertian 0898 0956 Of Paris, Isle De France FRA. (31 to 34 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. His son Hugues(Capet) Capetian King of France at 0939. Hugues Magnus, Duke Of France, b. abt. 0898 > d. 17 Jun 0956, son of Robert I King Of France at 0860 & Bbeatrice De Vermandois (A Carolingian) at 0880. Ballygra Roberts 1761 or 1861 Md>Tn> Brigadier General for A.Jackson hawkwind Roberts 1869 now YorksENG>PatersonNJ Dorothy Wilhelmina Robert wogonnj Roberts 1928 present ak,usa wa,usa fl,usa ms,usa, ny,usa. Rona Ruth Roberts, daughter of Edward Dumas Roberts and (???) and sister to June (Roberts) Visco. drautski Roberts 1930 2002 il,usa June (Roberts) Visco, wife to Frank ( ) Visco drautski Roberts SC GA AL Hiram Roberts born 1807 Greenville, SC almtnman Robinson 1800 1900 Arkansas sdhill24 Robinson 1800's now Easton, in Talbot County, Maryland> Pittsburgh, Allegheny Co., Pennsylvania Easton, Talbot County, Maryland - William H. & Susan "Robinson" Faulkner married 1821 trowk2 Robirts ----- now Nebraska>ID>OR deedee37 Roche 1920's 1970's unk Not sure of migration. Chicago? to Fla. dar15 Rodgers 1800 2007 detriot mich>ca>mo>iowa desizee Rodier 1750 now St-Hyacinthe, Qc, Canada Royer maskou Roel 1900 2007 Nuevo Leon, Mex jproel Rogers 1905 now MI>IL>CA>MN Andrew Jackson; Duane W ralphjo Rogers Va Ark Va, Mo, Kan, Okl, Ark gransue Rolerkite 1900 now UK Josephine, London 1950 mike70 Ronholdt 1915 Now MN, USA>ND, USA http://kimzplace.info kboe Rooney 1834 1895 abt 1848 married Quigley bobkate Rose 1800 2007 england grt grt grt grandmum perree Rosenacker 1841 GER>OH lawyer1 Ross 1600 2006 PA>KY,USA Searching all descendents to all states tumphrey Ross 1823 1901 SWE>ENG>ME>CA, USA yester Ross 1850 present Ballynure, Antrim,Ireland>USA looking for ancestors of Nettie Ross, daughter of Thomas Ross and Nancy Johnson Ross dmmarsh Rostawanik Kudrynce NY 1909>? can't find family Rystepha Roszell 5/1811 12/2007 IN>ID>CA, USA Starts with Wesley, have bible. CecRoz Rosztowanik Kudrynce NY 1902>? can't find family Rystepha Rothe 1800 GER>WI ppincher Rowland 1811 1850 Wayne KY>TX John, Nancy mag7885 Rowles 1830 1890 unknown Died in IA ljmills1 Rowley 1700 now NY>ILL>WISC clingren Royer 1663 1900 Fr>Quebec.>St-Hyacinthe Now Rodier maskou Ruetsch 1800 1874 Bouxwiller, Fr. rollie21 Rufenaught 1849 now BE,CHE>AshlandCo,OH,USA married Streit sb102441 Runyan 1869 1953 DavidsonCo,TN>CarterCo,OK chd1 Rutherford 1832 1890 VT>ND>IA Cyrus m. Elizabeth Clarke children Thomas and Anna Yesmam Rutland 1843 1889 UK>Australia Taigirl Ryan 1823 1883 Ireland>RI>MN middlet1 Ryan 1850s Philadelphia, PA Any information on Matilda Ryan who married Daniel A. Cahill of Philadelphia in the 1870s jax1drc Ryan 1860 1886 Silvermines, Nenagh, Co Tip,IRL>Melbourne, AUS Susan & Bridget emigrated Aus 1886 fairy760 Ryan 1870 1909 Al edwinj Ryan 1892 1977 Al>TX edwinj Ryder 1780 now USA>ON>Kingston John was a land surveyor, m Elizabeth CRONK 1802 Kingston mar37 See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

On Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:38:28 -0600, Judy Arnold <judith@omuonline.net> wrote: >What part of ancestry are you using to create the book?? Could you >please elborate. I have >always wanted to do a book but have never felt like I knew how to >"produce" it. >From the description on Amazon it sounds to me like the Ancestry books are just data dumps- Pick a surname- Chapter 1; Elbrecht's in US Censuses Probably listed by year with no regard to time or place. Chapter 2; Immigrant Elbrecht's; A copy/paste of all the Elbrechts on shiplists [and so on] My suggestion to 'get an Ancestry subscription and make your own' may have been misleading. The Ancestry subscription just gives you access to all the data that is contained in the $30 book that the OP asked about. If you wanted to do the same 'data dump' you could do it cheaper than $30- but few of us would be interested. [and you could get the same information for all the names in your database for the annual fee] The subscriber's job is to sort out what info is pertinent to their family- and hopefully integrate a whole lot more sources to their research. Then they enter it into their favorite genealogy program. All the program's I've seen have 'book' [often called report] making capabilities of some sort. The one I use most often, with Steed's Brother's Keeper, is called an "Ancestor Ahnentafel Book". If I use my kids as the first folks it creates an rtf file that I can edit in Word. I can ask it to be brief and include just the basics- B-D-M, siblings - or I can ask it to include all notes and children of their ancestors. [just as an example I tried this this morning- the complete listings create a 230 page book before editing- the brief version, no notes, only ancestors & sibs, is 29 pages.] Once created I can edit the 'book' in Word. BK makes an excellent index of the people, but I might add some things to the index like keywords to stories I find interesting. Since I'm probably doing this for a particular audience, usually a group of less than 10- I can customize it any way I want. I use word to create chapters labeled 'Parent', 'Grand Parents', . . . . '13th Great Grand Parents'. I write an single page intro directed at my mini-audience - [usually begging for corrections and additions, and maybe drawing their attention to some new tidbit I think they'll find interesting. I also explain how the ahnentafel numbers work so if they are browsing through they can move back and forth by family.] Then I take the file to Staples and ask them to print and bind them. The bindings at my local Staples range from clear floppy pages to hard cover, full color covers. I've gone with the cheaper bindings on the assumption that I'm not done yet. The last one I did was 130 pages of my father's ancestors. With the floppy bindings, I got 5 books for $12.50 each- and they were ready in 3 hours. That was *my* point- Cheryl seems to spend a lot more time playing editor than I so she will probably have something good to add - or disagree with.<g> I probably shouldn't ask because I doubt I'll be interested in learning a new Word processing program- but for the benefit of anyone who hasn't gotten used to a program. . . What program does anyone else do their editing in? I know some folks like making pdf's - does anyone use Publisher [why?] - What are Word's shortcomings? Jim

To: pfnolan Re: Naturalization Record in US Ct. for So. Dist. of NY By: pfnolan to alt.genealogy on Sun Jan 20 2008 05:01 pm > I'm trying to get a 1933 record of a Petition for Naturalization filed > in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York, > which is the federal court in Manhattan. I tried the National > Archives website and the NY National Archives website, but neither > seemed to have 1933 nat. records. I have the petition number, the > individual's name and the petition date. Please give us what you have and perhaps someone can look it up for you. Allen -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City LiveWire BBS - Lousiville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com