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On Jan 22, 6:02 pm, RichAsianKid <richasian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 22, 8:55 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Jan 22, 5:21 pm, RichAsianKid <richasian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Jan 22, 7:06 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Isn't this the reason for organ transplants, that we are the same and > > > > interchangable? We are more the same than different. > > > > We are mammals first and foremost, yes. Meaning: we're not that > > > different from our animal cousins: territory, hierarchy, kinship. > > > > But really, if we're all so universally interchangeable, which then is > > > it so important for screening? Why then is it so important to have a > > > biological & compatible HLA match? > > > RAT, you are more of a gnat than anything else. Go back to your > > social statistics. > > Truth hurts. And I'm sure you' don't need RichAsianKID's advice re: > growing up? ;) The truth is, RAT, all your posts are way off-base out to the left field.
On Jan 22, 8:55 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 22, 5:21 pm, RichAsianKid <richasian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > On Jan 22, 7:06 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Isn't this the reason for organ transplants, that we are the same and > > > interchangable? We are more the same than different. > > > We are mammals first and foremost, yes. Meaning: we're not that > > different from our animal cousins: territory, hierarchy, kinship. > > > But really, if we're all so universally interchangeable, which then is > > it so important for screening? Why then is it so important to have a > > biological & compatible HLA match? > > RAT, you are more of a gnat than anything else. Go back to your > social statistics. Truth hurts. And I'm sure you' don't need RichAsianKID's advice re: growing up? ;)
On Jan 22, 5:21 pm, RichAsianKid <richasian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 22, 7:06 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Isn't this the reason for organ transplants, that we are the same and > > interchangable? We are more the same than different. > > We are mammals first and foremost, yes. Meaning: we're not that > different from our animal cousins: territory, hierarchy, kinship. > > But really, if we're all so universally interchangeable, which then is > it so important for screening? Why then is it so important to have a > biological & compatible HLA match? RAT, you are more of a gnat than anything else. Go back to your social statistics.
On Jan 22, 7:06 pm, rst0wxyz <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Jan 22, 3:38 pm, RichAsianKid <richasian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Jan 22, 2:29 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I was always suspicious of the label, but now it seems that Asian > > > Pacific American" may not be only a "geo-political" term! > > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/world/asia/18islands.html?ref=asia > > > > EXCERPT > > > > The ancestral relationships of people living in the widely scattered > > > islands of the Pacific Ocean, long a puzzle to anthropologists, may > > > have been solved by a new genetic study, researchers reported > > > Thursday. > > > > In an analysis of the DNA of 1,000 individuals from 41 Pacific > > > populations, an international team of scientists found strong evidence > > > showing that Polynesians and Micronesians in the central and eastern > > > islands had almost no genetic relationship to Melanesians, in the > > > western islands like Papua New Guinea and the Bismarck and Solomons > > > archipelagos. > > > > The researchers also concluded that the genetic data showed that the > > > Polynesians and Micronesians were most closely related to Taiwan > > > Aborigines and East Asians. They said this supported the view that > > > these migrating seafarers originated in Taiwan and coastal China at > > > least 3,500 years ago. > > > > ... > > > > Further research to confirm the history of the Pacific diaspora, Dr. > > > Friedlaender said, would require an expansion of genetic tests among > > > people in the Philippines and Indonesia, regions that the migrants > > > presumably passed through after leaving Taiwan more than 3,500 years > > > ago, ultimately reaching as far as Hawaii and Easter Island. The > > > Melanesians, on the other hand, probably arrived on their islands > > > about 35,000 years ago, sometime later than the Aborigines reached > > > Australia. > > > > ... > > > > The new genetic research, said Patrick V. Kirch, an anthropologist at > > > the University of California, Berkeley, who is an authority on Pacific > > > cultures, was "overwhelming biological evidence for a clear population > > > movement out of Southeast Asia and Taiwan to Polynesia." > > > Great article! > > > But I'd still say that APA is still a geo-political term for no other > > reason that it includes subcontinent Indians. > > > But it's a great article as it illustrates the exciting nature of 21st > > century science and genetics - it contradicts the 'blank slate' > > ideology - and illustrates how we're weaved into our concentric webs > > of ancestry. It'll also be interesting to witness how this play out > > and how this will drive a stake through late 20th century liberal- > > sanctioned universalist pseudoscience that everyone's the same and > > interchangeable. > > Isn't this the reason for organ transplants, that we are the same and > interchangable? We are more the same than different. > We are mammals first and foremost, yes. Meaning: we're not that different from our animal cousins: territory, hierarchy, kinship. But really, if we're all so universally interchangeable, which then is it so important for screening? Why then is it so important to have a biological & compatible HLA match? > > But that's a side point. > > > As they say, "just cuz you're born in a manger doesn't make you a bale > > of hay." The study you quoted illustrates how genealogy is so very > > real. It is the neglected vertical aspect of ourselves -- and I might > > add that in real life, in spite of practically every institution > > militating against it, the vertical aspect in practical and political > > matters and seem to consistently trump that horizontal aspect of > > geographical proximity. > > > As example, blacks and whites have been in living together for a long > > time. Whatever you think of the sins of white ancestors or the crimes > > of black descendants, identity politics continue to surface. This > > point is understandable, even expected, if you look at the > > phylogenetic ancestral tree - whites and blacks are not the same > > people, they're far far apart. Yet it is much less understandable if > > you just look at it like a starry-eyed utopian: geography should > > explain everything, look, they live together, now why is it that they > > don't get along? > > > Last, that's why people when they're old crawl back to their roots > > rather than crawl back to their neighbors (I think). Not all, but > > many. Many people "rediscover" their heritage; and they continue to > > love their own children and grandchildren and worship their ancestors > > way more than they love children and grandchildren of strangers or > > whorship ancestors of their neighbors - especially if they look > > different, especially if they speak a different language. That is, > > even after a lifetime of close, proximal social bonding, geographical > > neighbors are still often not seen as their own. No, they're not > > instinctually, not viscerally, one of theirs. In fact in such > > situations, rife and resource competition etc etc is more the norm. > > > And yes that's all sidetrack. Have to make one last last comment: you > > X-posted this to soc.culture.china. Well. I have to say that I'm now > > not as amazed to see how many overseas (former) Chinese see China in > > such romantic light from a distance now matter how crappy the country > > is. Blood is thicker than water. > > > Cheers, > > RichAsianKid- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -
How would I go about finding out who shot who??? I was told that a PIERCE shot someone - he shot him just because the PIERCE person was mean!! Then I have also heard that another PIERCE brother shot someone but this poor person deserved it. LOL How interesting this would be to find. This is my direct line. The father of the two PIERCE brothers was John PIERCE. These brothers lived in Breckenridge County Kentucky and if I am not mistaken they were named Walter, Henry or Tom PIERCE. Not sure which two it was. Any suggestions???? All help appreciated. Thanks can't wait to solve this problem, but I need your help to do it. Judy
On Jan 22, 3:38 pm, RichAsianKid <richasian...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Jan 22, 2:29 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > I was always suspicious of the label, but now it seems that Asian > > Pacific American" may not be only a "geo-political" term! > > >http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/world/asia/18islands.html?ref=asia > > > EXCERPT > > > The ancestral relationships of people living in the widely scattered > > islands of the Pacific Ocean, long a puzzle to anthropologists, may > > have been solved by a new genetic study, researchers reported > > Thursday. > > > In an analysis of the DNA of 1,000 individuals from 41 Pacific > > populations, an international team of scientists found strong evidence > > showing that Polynesians and Micronesians in the central and eastern > > islands had almost no genetic relationship to Melanesians, in the > > western islands like Papua New Guinea and the Bismarck and Solomons > > archipelagos. > > > The researchers also concluded that the genetic data showed that the > > Polynesians and Micronesians were most closely related to Taiwan > > Aborigines and East Asians. They said this supported the view that > > these migrating seafarers originated in Taiwan and coastal China at > > least 3,500 years ago. > > > ... > > > Further research to confirm the history of the Pacific diaspora, Dr. > > Friedlaender said, would require an expansion of genetic tests among > > people in the Philippines and Indonesia, regions that the migrants > > presumably passed through after leaving Taiwan more than 3,500 years > > ago, ultimately reaching as far as Hawaii and Easter Island. The > > Melanesians, on the other hand, probably arrived on their islands > > about 35,000 years ago, sometime later than the Aborigines reached > > Australia. > > > ... > > > The new genetic research, said Patrick V. Kirch, an anthropologist at > > the University of California, Berkeley, who is an authority on Pacific > > cultures, was "overwhelming biological evidence for a clear population > > movement out of Southeast Asia and Taiwan to Polynesia." > > Great article! > > But I'd still say that APA is still a geo-political term for no other > reason that it includes subcontinent Indians. > > But it's a great article as it illustrates the exciting nature of 21st > century science and genetics - it contradicts the 'blank slate' > ideology - and illustrates how we're weaved into our concentric webs > of ancestry. It'll also be interesting to witness how this play out > and how this will drive a stake through late 20th century liberal- > sanctioned universalist pseudoscience that everyone's the same and > interchangeable. Isn't this the reason for organ transplants, that we are the same and interchangable? We are more the same than different. > But that's a side point. > > As they say, "just cuz you're born in a manger doesn't make you a bale > of hay." The study you quoted illustrates how genealogy is so very > real. It is the neglected vertical aspect of ourselves -- and I might > add that in real life, in spite of practically every institution > militating against it, the vertical aspect in practical and political > matters and seem to consistently trump that horizontal aspect of > geographical proximity. > > As example, blacks and whites have been in living together for a long > time. Whatever you think of the sins of white ancestors or the crimes > of black descendants, identity politics continue to surface. This > point is understandable, even expected, if you look at the > phylogenetic ancestral tree - whites and blacks are not the same > people, they're far far apart. Yet it is much less understandable if > you just look at it like a starry-eyed utopian: geography should > explain everything, look, they live together, now why is it that they > don't get along? > > Last, that's why people when they're old crawl back to their roots > rather than crawl back to their neighbors (I think). Not all, but > many. Many people "rediscover" their heritage; and they continue to > love their own children and grandchildren and worship their ancestors > way more than they love children and grandchildren of strangers or > whorship ancestors of their neighbors - especially if they look > different, especially if they speak a different language. That is, > even after a lifetime of close, proximal social bonding, geographical > neighbors are still often not seen as their own. No, they're not > instinctually, not viscerally, one of theirs. In fact in such > situations, rife and resource competition etc etc is more the norm. > > And yes that's all sidetrack. Have to make one last last comment: you > X-posted this to soc.culture.china. Well. I have to say that I'm now > not as amazed to see how many overseas (former) Chinese see China in > such romantic light from a distance now matter how crappy the country > is. Blood is thicker than water. > > Cheers, > RichAsianKid- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
On Jan 22, 2:29 pm, Prisoner at War <prisoner_at_...@yahoo.com> wrote: > I was always suspicious of the label, but now it seems that Asian > Pacific American" may not be only a "geo-political" term! > > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/world/asia/18islands.html?ref=asia > > EXCERPT > > The ancestral relationships of people living in the widely scattered > islands of the Pacific Ocean, long a puzzle to anthropologists, may > have been solved by a new genetic study, researchers reported > Thursday. > > In an analysis of the DNA of 1,000 individuals from 41 Pacific > populations, an international team of scientists found strong evidence > showing that Polynesians and Micronesians in the central and eastern > islands had almost no genetic relationship to Melanesians, in the > western islands like Papua New Guinea and the Bismarck and Solomons > archipelagos. > > The researchers also concluded that the genetic data showed that the > Polynesians and Micronesians were most closely related to Taiwan > Aborigines and East Asians. They said this supported the view that > these migrating seafarers originated in Taiwan and coastal China at > least 3,500 years ago. > > ... > > Further research to confirm the history of the Pacific diaspora, Dr. > Friedlaender said, would require an expansion of genetic tests among > people in the Philippines and Indonesia, regions that the migrants > presumably passed through after leaving Taiwan more than 3,500 years > ago, ultimately reaching as far as Hawaii and Easter Island. The > Melanesians, on the other hand, probably arrived on their islands > about 35,000 years ago, sometime later than the Aborigines reached > Australia. > > ... > > The new genetic research, said Patrick V. Kirch, an anthropologist at > the University of California, Berkeley, who is an authority on Pacific > cultures, was "overwhelming biological evidence for a clear population > movement out of Southeast Asia and Taiwan to Polynesia." Great article! But I'd still say that APA is still a geo-political term for no other reason that it includes subcontinent Indians. But it's a great article as it illustrates the exciting nature of 21st century science and genetics - it contradicts the 'blank slate' ideology - and illustrates how we're weaved into our concentric webs of ancestry. It'll also be interesting to witness how this play out and how this will drive a stake through late 20th century liberal- sanctioned universalist pseudoscience that everyone's the same and interchangeable. But that's a side point. As they say, "just cuz you're born in a manger doesn't make you a bale of hay." The study you quoted illustrates how genealogy is so very real. It is the neglected vertical aspect of ourselves -- and I might add that in real life, in spite of practically every institution militating against it, the vertical aspect in practical and political matters and seem to consistently trump that horizontal aspect of geographical proximity. As example, blacks and whites have been in living together for a long time. Whatever you think of the sins of white ancestors or the crimes of black descendants, identity politics continue to surface. This point is understandable, even expected, if you look at the phylogenetic ancestral tree - whites and blacks are not the same people, they're far far apart. Yet it is much less understandable if you just look at it like a starry-eyed utopian: geography should explain everything, look, they live together, now why is it that they don't get along? Last, that's why people when they're old crawl back to their roots rather than crawl back to their neighbors (I think). Not all, but many. Many people "rediscover" their heritage; and they continue to love their own children and grandchildren and worship their ancestors way more than they love children and grandchildren of strangers or whorship ancestors of their neighbors - especially if they look different, especially if they speak a different language. That is, even after a lifetime of close, proximal social bonding, geographical neighbors are still often not seen as their own. No, they're not instinctually, not viscerally, one of theirs. In fact in such situations, rife and resource competition etc etc is more the norm. And yes that's all sidetrack. Have to make one last last comment: you X-posted this to soc.culture.china. Well. I have to say that I'm now not as amazed to see how many overseas (former) Chinese see China in such romantic light from a distance now matter how crappy the country is. Blood is thicker than water. Cheers, RichAsianKid
On Jan 22, 3:23 pm, "Tony H." <punkyNOS...@insightbb.com> wrote: > lyn_mcfarl...@hotmail.com wrote: > > Thankyou CWatters and Tony! Have been looking for Maria Chapman in > > Australia and her sister Nancy in California for so long...and they > > were in Hawaii!! > > > I have been looking for their mother Ann Kemble Chapman nee Tree. I > > know she came to South Australia in April 1868 and worked as a teacher > > but she has fallen off the branch. Family notes claim she was in > > California in 1900 and that she lived until she was 90...this would > > have her in California. I can't believe she would be tripping around > > the world at 90 years of age! They also say Nancy Rhodes wrote a > > letter from San Jose in May 1900 explaining Mary (daughter if Charles > > and Ellen Kean) Logie's will. > > > Did Ann die in California, London or South Australia?...or Hawaii > > maybe? > > Sorry, can't help on Ann Kemble Chapman. I thought if she lived to be > 90 years of age that she would rate some sort of newspaper article when > she died. No luck on that...so just for drill I put in search for Nancy > Rhodes in 1900-1910 in California and Hawaii. I found her obituary from > August 30, 1904 in the Hawaiian Gazette. > > I can send you an image of the newspaper page. Do you want it sent to > your hotmail address? > > --Tony- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - That would be sooo good. Thanks again!
In message <fK9lj.33569$Ft5.9009@newsfe15.lga> Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote: > The problem is with your internet provider and not with alt.genealogy. > However, to answer your question, googlegroups owns/controls the usenet > newsgroups, No they do not, however much they'd like you to think they do. Googlegroups is merely a way of accessing newsposts via a web interface instead of using a proper newsreader. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>
I was always suspicious of the label, but now it seems that Asian Pacific American" may not be only a "geo-political" term! http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/18/world/asia/18islands.html?ref=asia EXCERPT The ancestral relationships of people living in the widely scattered islands of the Pacific Ocean, long a puzzle to anthropologists, may have been solved by a new genetic study, researchers reported Thursday. In an analysis of the DNA of 1,000 individuals from 41 Pacific populations, an international team of scientists found strong evidence showing that Polynesians and Micronesians in the central and eastern islands had almost no genetic relationship to Melanesians, in the western islands like Papua New Guinea and the Bismarck and Solomons archipelagos. The researchers also concluded that the genetic data showed that the Polynesians and Micronesians were most closely related to Taiwan Aborigines and East Asians. They said this supported the view that these migrating seafarers originated in Taiwan and coastal China at least 3,500 years ago. ... Further research to confirm the history of the Pacific diaspora, Dr. Friedlaender said, would require an expansion of genetic tests among people in the Philippines and Indonesia, regions that the migrants presumably passed through after leaving Taiwan more than 3,500 years ago, ultimately reaching as far as Hawaii and Easter Island. The Melanesians, on the other hand, probably arrived on their islands about 35,000 years ago, sometime later than the Aborigines reached Australia. ... The new genetic research, said Patrick V. Kirch, an anthropologist at the University of California, Berkeley, who is an authority on Pacific cultures, was "overwhelming biological evidence for a clear population movement out of Southeast Asia and Taiwan to Polynesia."
On Jan 21, 4:58 pm, Joy Weaver <joywe...@verizon.net> wrote: > Why not seek the 1926 death cert. for the man who died in NJ? That should > (hopefully) give his parents' names so you can match him to the man from GA. Because NJ is anal about releasing Death Certificates to non immediate family (which I am not).
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 17:23:58 -0500, Michael Kenefick wrote: > alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making me re-enter user > name and password, then still not connecting. What a pain. Does any one know > whom the actually host of this newsgroup is? I've had no problems with the group. I use two different newsservers because one is playing up. It's telling me there is only one message in a particular group while the other says there's 248, which is correct. It's more likely the newsserver that's causing the problem since you're being asked for your name and password continually. You don't seem to be using a newsreader such as OE. If you were, I'd suggest that it had become corrupted in some way. I'd get on to your ISP or whichever newsserver you are using and ask them the same question: not the bit about who hosts the newsgroup though. I think that's been answered already :)) -- http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008 04:30:22 -0800, "Rip" <fake@fake.com> wrote: > >"Gerry" <everyday@sunrise.net> wrote in message >news:everyday-0A1510.14571021012008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com... >> In article <47951B7E.6000207@sbcglobal.net>, >> Michael Kenefick <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making me >>> re-enter user >>> name and password, then still not connecting. What a pain. Does >>> any one >>> know >>> whom the actually host of this newsgroup is? >> >> Some of the ATT/SBC usenet authentication servers have been >> misbehaving, >> they have been currently taken off line, and are being worked on. >> Things >> should be back to normal soon. >> > >FYI. ATT/SBC is run through Yahoo, the very worst ISP in the world. ATT and Yahoo are two separate companies, although in your case, they have an agreement to jointly provide certain services to their customers. As far as I am aware, Yahoo does not do connections, nor do they provide usenet access although they do provide their own groups, which are different from usenet. ATT provides the connection, and once you are connected, you don't have to use Yahoo if you don't want to. You can change your home page, and get a free email address elsewhere if you prefer. Feel free to email me if you don't know how to do this. My ISP also has an agreement with Yahoo, and I use their webmail, because it has excellent spam filtering, and over about four years, the mail servers have only been down once, that I am aware of. Maybe there was another time when I was on vacation, but that's less than a month a year, so that still seems like reasonable reliability to me. My ISP does not provide usenet servers, and I use a separate service for this purpose. If your problems are of the connection variety, your problem is with ATT, not Yahoo. If you have good connectivity, but problems accessing the Yahoo portal, Yahoo groups, Yahoo calendaring or your webmail, then Yahoo is the problem. Looking at your headers, it appears the news servers belong to ATT. > -- Jane
December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with S - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Sabaliauskas 1860 1930 LTU>UK London UK, mike70 Sachs 1911 OH>FL USNATC Sackett 1317 now Worldwide The Sackett Family Association sackett Safran 1850 2007 Minsk, Russia Could be Pinsk matroshk Salazar 1919 1973 Co>Ca malisa Salazar 1958 1978 Ca malisa Salazar 1962 now Ca malisa Sale 1803 1881 NC>IN>MO Wilkes Co. NC>Huntington Co. IN>St, Clair Co. MO RomaW Sales 1700 1900 Nb>Ill>ND, USA last know relative is William born 1830. leemar Sams 1784 Now Somerton,Somerset,Eng>Australia Immigrant Tarranne Sams 1880 1920 from nc to georgia greatgrandparents were anson and sarah- anything will help hrrngdn San Jermes 1880 cuba Chiron, Regina Siegler stang66 Sanders 1957 2008 HESSEN,DEU>USA Researcher sandersw Sands 1850 now OH kgm3 Sangster 1841 ABD,SCT satyr Santo Paolo 1930 Italy>Illinois SMS78 Sargeant 1750 1872 BKM,ENG mguest Sarpolis 1872 1932 Lithuania>IL byeoman Saunders 1850 1918 MDX,ENG London East End lymmbo Schaffner 1856 1860 Germany>BaltimoreMD,USA buckeyek Schaub 1868 1940 PRU, DEU>MD, USA waldonia Schecter 1867 now Odessa,UKR>NY,USA doseas Schlicht 1800 BAD-WUE,DEU gregwein Schmagalsky 1860 now LTU>UK London UK? includes Anastasia mike70 Schmigalski 1860 now LTU>UK London UK includes Anastasia mike70 Schmigalsky 1860 now LTU>UK London UK includes Anastasia mike70 Schoenfeldt ----- 1989 IL>CA deedee37 Schreiber 1816 1939 Bavaria>MD JamCas Schreiner 1800 BAD-WUE,DEU gregwein Schultz 1807 now DEU>PA>NJ>CA>FL Looking for birthplace of Joachim Friederich Christian SCHULTZ, born in Prussia about 1807, children born in Stavenhagen, MSC,MEC malithre Schultz 1882 now Germany>NY>PA>Delair, NJ Marie Magdelena-Adopted by Markowski's in USA MyLittle Schumacher 1895 1930 FresnoCo, CA>IA>/MN/IL>IN Leroy or Roy born 1897/99 jennyNV Schunk 1840 1840 Germany buckeyek Schwantes 1885 DEU>MN,WI,USA brj3357 Schwarz 1900 now WUE, DEU>MD, USA waldonia Scoles 1780 1800 MD>OH>ILL RebaShep Score 1903 1920 norway cindyroe Scott 1706 1827 York Co., PA pwcase Scott 1777 1856 Va>Ohio>KY ruthgene Scott 1800 now ns lorridol Scott 1867 1922 Canada,>Neb>CO. was a lumberman in So. CO. cherok3 Scott 1912 now Eng>SA,AUS Leo Leonard Scott mother Lily Ward (actress) father Alf William SCOTT joyleneh Scrubbs 1900 Lousiana cspears1 Searle 1801 1900 Plymouth,ENG>Sandwich,ON,CAN>IL>IA>MO Joseph skaley Seckenger 1900 now OK>CA Lindyjo Secord 1900 now Bourget, ON to Timmins, ON llpotvin Seelman 1866 1940 Germany>Wisconsin>Port Washington>Milwaukee wmbauman Sellers 1859 1920 IN>MO USA DOB 1849 jeferson MO DARV Senusky 1864 1976 PRU>MI,USA samjar Setsuda 1871 JPN>Seattle, WA, USA dms0725 Sexton 1852 1930 TE>MO>TXUSA DOB 1852 KNOXVILL TE DARV Shackleton 1800 Now ENG>Hrn Co,>Alg Dist.,ON,CAN keimly Shaffer 1800 1910 DEU>PA>CA John Franklin Shaffer b. 01/15/1885 grnthmbs Shaver 1800 now ?>ontario pember11 Sheldon 1847 1932 Carthage New York great grand parent sodonn99 Shelton VA NC by 1807 Richard Shelton, b. 1779 in Louisa Co.,VA moved to Rockingham Co., NC by 1807 when he married Frances Jones Barnett ,dau of William and Frances Jones Barnett of Louisa Co.,VA Fairborn Shepherd 1816 1882 Md>Oh>Mo Md>Miami Co. Ohio RomaW Sheppard 1783 1943 Somerset, England>Utah famhugz Sherman 1865 now RUS/ROM>NY>Los Angeles,CA,USA doseas Shultz 1800's 1950 IN, USA Gmother psbrooks Siar 1915 1968 OK>TX,USA Alonzo/Julia Butcher ceagle52 Sicard 1800 1911 PQ to Bourget, ON llpotvin Sidwell 1813 1874 CalhounCo,IL kerby Siegel 1850 2007 Romania matroshk Sigle 1817 BAD-WUE,DEU gregwein Siler 1719 present NC (Chatham/ Randolph) Plikard Dederic Siler rwp1786 Siller 1800 1940 NJ,USA dadesro Silver 1800 1910 NJ>In>Mo Marion/Boone/Montgomery Co. Indiana & St. Clair Co. MO RomaW Sink 1841 2007 Germany>St.Clair,IL Original "Zinc"? kc7aos Sinsheimer 1823 now HES,DEU>IL,USA debdrex Sipe 1763 PA glogirl Sizemore 1800 1900 NC>VA she53 Skinner 1800 2006 VA>KY,USA Seaching all descendents to all states tumphrey Slitor 1881 1998 england>oh nursiev Smallwood 1500 2006 ENG>MD>KY,USA Searchnig all descendents to all states tumphrey Smeltzer 1802 GalliaCo,OH USNATC Smith 1400 now michigan to iowa need to know names wolves56 Smith 1600 1930 1730 Lancaster County, Pa. bockum Smith 1776 1850 PA>StarkCo,OH>SummitCo,OH,USA buckeyek Smith 1781 now SC>AL>LA>TX Msmitty Smith 1788 RaleighCo,WV mearis Smith 1800 1900 GA>AR>TX Brothers Wm Henry "Buck"/Joe C/Jesse, ne TX dcgenie Smith 1800 2007 NC, PA, GA, NJ jstansil Smith 1800 now NC>Va>WV she53 Smith 1830 1862 unknown Died in Keokuk, IA Civil War ljmills1 Smith 1831 1883 abt 1847 married Everard bobkate Smith 1857 present Tennessee noraally Smith 1860 now NY>OH USNATC Smith 1870 NJ>NY linda23 Smith 1894 OH 3 brothers orphaned in early 1900's in West Union, OH area lawyer1 Smith NC Ark. NC, Tn, Kan, Mo Ark gransue Smulson 1900 2007 CA guthriej Snell 1903 now Elba County, AL>NY,USA kdlsjb Snoddy 1800 present Castledown, Antrim, Ire> US dmmarsh Sober 1886 now Germany>NY>PA>Saginaw Co, MI>Ingham Co, MI Oliver, Irvin, Evert, Frederick giner Soeder 1900 1935 RHE-PFA>MD, USA waldonia Sorofsky 1900 Ukraine>London, UK PatNegal Sotelo 1900 now Haruco, Cuba>FL>CA,USA asotelo Space 1850 1889 ?>PA grnthmbs Spangler 1620 1743 DEU>Sülzfeld>Württemberg Maria Veronica Spangler wlgreene Sparks 1749 1948 MD>IN>MO Frederick Co..MD>Wells Co. IN>St, Clair Co. MO RomaW Spencer 1898 now NS,CAN>NL,CAN My grandmother , Susan hynes Spiegel c1820 now Brzezany>Trembowla>Welica, AUT-HUN>NYC, USA Jewish gspiegel Spiegel ~1892 1939 Russia, Can, WA > L.A. Dr Maurice Spiegel m C. Guttman upstart5 Spielman 1908 1970 russia>canada uggers Spiller 1850 now IRL>VIC,AUS Connections with William James Spiller and Susannah Manning dig17 Spindle 1815 ? VA Spotsylvania Co. VA RomaW Spratt 1900 present Glas,Scot. janeygee Srewart Abt1815 Ireland mowers98 St.George 1880 now E.Douglas,MA>N.Smithfield,RI>CT>RI, USA believed to be Fr.Canadian Catholic eboulay1 St.John ----- 2007 England? stjmary Stacilauskas 1860 now LTU Vilkaviskis area Lithuania mike70 Stagg 1600 2000 WHITCHURCH>HANTS>ENGLAND jimnorth Stallman 1800 now Va>WV she53 Stallter 1800 now PA>OH>IN stalt Standridge 1770's now "Indian Territory" Sulphur Bend Cemetery, Sulphur Bend, Oklahoma> Long Creek Township, Carrollton Co., Arkansas> Tennessee Mary Standridge & James Jones married [ James Jones was Cherokee]> Alexander Standridge & Elizabeth married before 1798 trowk2 Stankula 1886 now hungary>Penn.>Ohio>Mich Josef Stankula, arrived in 1912, looking for brothers or sisters in Europe, and any of the family in penn, also one brother used surname DankoCame gtom Szatmar, village Nyemada around Szatmar helenmar Stansil 1800 2007 NC, VA, MA, NY, IA, KS Looking for same spelling jstansil Stanton 1833 IRE;PA:IN Clay & Sullivan Co. IN Gene1937 Starnes 1830 1900 GA ? Katie Mae--parents leyhok Stauffer 1500 1850 Sweden/Prussia>MD>PA>OH Guernsey, OH Reices50 Stauffer 1710 Now Bern, Switzerland>PA djoan Steadman 1800 ohio arthur allen grate112 Steinback finland michigan minnesota crisweb Stellberg 1842 1965 GERM>Iowa>CA jhskshaw Stevens 1700 2006 MD>KY,USA Seaching all descendents to all states tumphrey Stevens 1745 1900 Hartland, Devon, >Bradworthy>Huron Co,ON,Canada John Emigrated 1832 mar37 Stevens 1800 1900 unk to Texas sdhill24 Stewart 1500 1800 OH Guernsey, OH Reices50 Stewart 1848 1923 Pittsburg, Pa mowers98 Stineburg 1834 now Germany>USA jstine42 Story ----- 2007 Scotland? stjmary Story 1848 present NC>VA Southampton County, VA and surrounding areas of Sussex, Jerusalem District etc. dbj11909 Strandberg 1900 present PA/NY baj Strande 1858 now Norway bgmm888 Straw 1806 1901 Ilkeston Derbyshire almarl Streit 1852 now BE,CHE>AshlandCo,OH,USA sb102441 Stremel 1720 1980 Germany>Kamenka Russia>Marienfeld Russia> Denver Co>Ft Lluptoon CO> Denver>CO USA all verified by researcher in Russia, and church records in CO rkdnkl Strickland 1850 2000 NY>IL,USA wronkiew Strum 1851 now Sweden>Tioga, Cnounty, Morris Run, PA, Cambria County, Emeigh Run PA showboy1 Stubblefield 1913 2001 wise co. texas my grandmother rhonrhon Stuter 1850 now OH kgm3 Suggs 1867 2007 NC>FL,USA gemmi73 Sugyik 1886 now hungary>Penn>Ohio>mIch helenmar Sullivan 1730 now Ireland>Georgia>Mississippi>Texas Dennis Sullivan and descendants, George W., W. Luther, G. Stanton, Wilbur E. bosull Sullivan unknown now IN>? Joanne Sullivan and sister Patricia greyhair Sullivan unknown now IN>FL>AL>FL Patricia Sullivan married to Marlin Heck greyhair Summers 1710 present NC (Guilford Co.) Jacob Summers 1790-1790 rwp1786 Sumskis 1915 Now Europe>MI>MN dazman6 Sutherland 1882 now Union Co,NJ>OH,USA married Loveland sb102441 Sutherland 1964 Glasgow - Toronto, Canada willie58 Sutherlin 1769 1914 SCT>VA>NC>SC>IN>MO>TX yester Sutphin 1600s now NY>NJ>CarrollCo,VA,USA msutphin Suttle 1835 1980 Tenn.>Mo. guymowen Svensdotter 1726 1786 Asa Sweden Annika, married to Carl Hakansson dazman6 Swearingen 1636 now NLD>DE>MD>KY>TX, USA Garrit>Thom>John>Thom>Elem>Saml>Elem>Lewis>Thom>Pearl DLGordon Sweeney 1835 now COR,IRL>PA>NJ>NV jaschr71 Sweet 1900 1930 Iowa,USA buckeyek Symonds 1895 now NY,USA>GA,USA Corpe Syverson 1829 Now NOR, OtterTailCo, MN Eberhard, Peter, Emil, Olaf, Syver,Emma trembl1 See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.
"Gerry" <everyday@sunrise.net> wrote in message news:everyday-0A1510.14571021012008@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com... > In article <47951B7E.6000207@sbcglobal.net>, > Michael Kenefick <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making me >> re-enter user >> name and password, then still not connecting. What a pain. Does >> any one >> know >> whom the actually host of this newsgroup is? > > Some of the ATT/SBC usenet authentication servers have been > misbehaving, > they have been currently taken off line, and are being worked on. > Things > should be back to normal soon. > FYI. ATT/SBC is run through Yahoo, the very worst ISP in the world.
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:57:26 -0500, Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote: >Christopher Jahn wrote: > >> Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in >> news:fK9lj.33569$Ft5.9009@newsfe15.lga: >> >> >>>However, to answer your question, googlegroups owns/controls >>>the usenet newsgroups, >> >> >> No, it doesn't. No one does. Interesting unfounded wild-assed >> guess, though. >> >Google bought the rights to archive the usenet discussion groups (when >they bought Deja News) and can eliminate those archives at any time. >While that might not equate ownership, it definitely equates control. > No it doesn't. That is no more "control" of newsgroups than possession of old newspapers by e.g. the Library of Congress or the British Library constitutes control of newspapers. Googlegroups is only one of many collections of Usenet postings, otherwise seen in the form of the data on news servers belonging to many different ISPs.
"Huntersglenn" <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote in message news:0kalj.25446$hO4.12854@newsfe19.lga... > Google bought the rights to archive the usenet discussion groups (when > they bought Deja News) and can eliminate those archives at any time. > While that might not equate ownership, it definitely equates control. Google can't stop us from creating groups that they don't approve of. If I wanted to create "alt.google.groups.suck", they'd be powerless to stop it. They'd probably archive it too!
lyn_mcfarlane@hotmail.com wrote: > Thankyou CWatters and Tony! Have been looking for Maria Chapman in > Australia and her sister Nancy in California for so long...and they > were in Hawaii!! > > I have been looking for their mother Ann Kemble Chapman nee Tree. I > know she came to South Australia in April 1868 and worked as a teacher > but she has fallen off the branch. Family notes claim she was in > California in 1900 and that she lived until she was 90...this would > have her in California. I can't believe she would be tripping around > the world at 90 years of age! They also say Nancy Rhodes wrote a > letter from San Jose in May 1900 explaining Mary (daughter if Charles > and Ellen Kean) Logie's will. > > Did Ann die in California, London or South Australia?...or Hawaii > maybe? > Sorry, can't help on Ann Kemble Chapman. I thought if she lived to be 90 years of age that she would rate some sort of newspaper article when she died. No luck on that...so just for drill I put in search for Nancy Rhodes in 1900-1910 in California and Hawaii. I found her obituary from August 30, 1904 in the Hawaiian Gazette. I can send you an image of the newspaper page. Do you want it sent to your hotmail address? --Tony
In article <47951B7E.6000207@sbcglobal.net>, Michael Kenefick <michael_kenefick@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > alt.genealogy has been buggy for over 5 days. Always making me re-enter user > name and password, then still not connecting. What a pain. Does any one > know > whom the actually host of this newsgroup is? Some of the ATT/SBC usenet authentication servers have been misbehaving, they have been currently taken off line, and are being worked on. Things should be back to normal soon.