On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:34:40 +0100, Norbert Metzner wrote: > >> Please provide proof. I personally thnk thats a load of bollocks or at the >> very least an urban myth. May be just a US thing. > > You don't need any proof. Knowledge of what is done in staff departments > all over the world suffices. Some companies do it routinously, some do > it at suspicion, some do it ... It depends more on the culture of the > company than anything else. > > Ignore it if you do not like the truth. Well I've worked in staff departments and hired people all over the world - have you? -- Terry

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 02:44:40 -0500, Allen Prunty wrote: > It's part of a standard employment screening now.. and if you are a police > officer or a public official they do it often while you are employed. Look at > the Lexington KY POlice officers who arrested the Country Music Star John > Michael Montgomery... they were all disciplined or fired for posting > information about the arrest on their blogs and myspace. One of them even > commented about how the "whiny rich Lexington Kentucky residents" treat their > police officers. > Like I said - a US thing. It is certainly not part of a standard employment screening where I live. I believe polie officers in US also hold down other jobe - a strict no-no in UK. -- Terry

Rip wrote: > "Bruce Remick" <remick@cox.net> wrote in message > news:w0mmj.25724$3b7.25458@newsfe23.lga... >> "Liz_in_Calgary" <misnomer@shaw.ca> wrote in message >> news:r8pjp3teofdc88drk8vuri0bj0re0nop35@4ax.com... >>> lol... usenet isn't that important. >> Maybe not ten years ago, but today, if you're a person interviewing >> for a new job................ > > Couldn't let this one go! What could you possible say to a > prospective employer about usernet that would get you a job? that you could spell USENET correctly Hugh W

Terry <Terry234@hotmail.com> wrote: > Please provide proof. I personally thnk thats a load of bollocks or at the > very least an urban myth. May be just a US thing. You don't need any proof. Knowledge of what is done in staff departments all over the world suffices. Some companies do it routinously, some do it at suspicion, some do it ... It depends more on the culture of the company than anything else. Ignore it if you do not like the truth.

Allen Prunty wrote: > To: Hugh Watkins > > > I think only irresponsible or immature people use no archive and pseudonyms > > they are ashamed of what they might say > > I hate screen names as well... but with all the identity theft that goes on > nowdays it is best -not- to use your real name on the net. I do because I have > been using the net for 20 years now and my name has been out there... but for > someone just starting out screen names may be the best way to maintain their > privacy. the only real problem is some females get stalked if they get too close to an obsessive type my life is an open book and in genealogy it is important to share family surnames obviously I maintain my privacy in important matters by thinking about what I say Hugh W

of course it is a just another tool what is important is your presentation of yourself and you feeling good about what you do Hugh W Liz_in_Calgary wrote: > lol... usenet isn't that important. > > > > > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:06:25 +0100, in alt.genealogy Hugh > Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote : > >> Charani wrote: >>> On Thu, 24 Jan 2008 04:15:17 GMT, Liz_in_Calgary wrote: >>> >>>> Thats ok with me. >>> Although if you answer a query in the group and the OP's mailed from >>> the list, they won't see your answer and there's no obvious way of >>> telling which is a list mail and which is a group post unless you >>> check the headers of every post. You might be the one person with the >>> key piece of information being sought. >>> >>> That's the reason why I stopped using no archive in the genealogical >>> groups. >> I think only irresponsible or immature people use no archive and pseudonyms >> >> they are ashamed of what they might say >> >> no quality newspaper publishes anonymous letters >> >> Hugh W >

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In message <60094pF1ntlttU1@mid.individual.net> Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote: [snip] > > my life is an open book Remaindered at 50% off :-) -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>

Terry <Terry234@hotmail.com> wrote in news:lnn9o3fsx4ge.1rtjy5yoqlf8a$.dlg@40tude.net: > On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:46:09 -0500, Bruce Remick wrote: > >> >> It's not what you would say to a prospective employer, but >> what that potential employer's Google search of your past >> newsgroup/Usenet posts could reveal about YOU. Many >> employers apparently do that now, and for certain some >> applicants are turned down because of a public trail left >> behind that came back to bite them. >> Bruce > > Please provide proof. I personally thnk thats a load of > bollocks or at the very least an urban myth. May be just a US > thing. Might be just a US thing, but it has happened. I know someone from another group that was passed over for a job once the prospective employer read his contributions to a flame war. I also know a blogger who was passed over because the company didn't approve of his views as expressed in his blog. -- }:-) Christopher Jahn {:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/ "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners." -Ernst Jan Plugge

"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in news:xeymj.28555$yQ1.2144@edtnps89: > Thanks Allen. I thought it had started much earlier. No, it was part of F.D.R.'S "New Deal," but it took some time to get it through Congress. -- }:-) Christopher Jahn {:-( http://soflatheatre.blogspot.com/ It is more important that a proposition be interesting than that it be true. (Alfred North Whitehead)

December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with W - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Wachtendonk 1910 1986 Nijmegen, holland-kimberly, wisconsin married peter vansambeek, august 1, 1916 vansdelu Wade 1700s 1910 VA Ancestors of Edward C. Wade? msutphin Wakat 1875 1950 PRU>IL,USA wronkiew Wakeham 1733 1754 Cornwall, Eng. mhsally Walczak 1850 1910 Znin>PineCreekMN,WinonaMN jbgprlad Walker 1813 2007 Va>Oh>Mo Mercer/Darke/Miami Co Ohio to St. Clair Co. Mo. RomaW Walker 1866 1908 West Virginia bmuir Wall 1780 2007 Roscrea,Tip,IRL>Can>IA.>MN brothers James & Moses pianoguy Wallace 1915 1985 LawrenceCo,KY>OH>KY family of Willard patchldy Waller 1700's Present Berkeley co.VA/WVA>Sullivan co. TN and Washington co. TN Seeking Parents of John Waller of Berkeley Co. VA/WVA Jeff07B Wallis 1740 now Scotland>SC>GA JAMES chatlake Walls 1956 1960 HESSEN,DEU>USA sandersw Walsh 1830 1945 cork keimar1 Walsh 1854 1899 Hamilton, ONT.>IL middlet1 Walton 1740 1900 Aberford Yorkshire almarl Walton 1800 1950 Eng/Va/Mo/Tx ewric Wane 1746 Beckermet Have direct descendants linked to the White family when the pioneering family emigrated from Beckermet area to Manchester between 1834-1838 Any links to you ? pete9708 Wane 1746 1822 St Bees/Beckermet/Calder Bridge Cumberland UK Joseph 1768Sarah1771Agnes1774William1779Jane1782John1798 To Confirm Joseph+Agnes Fisher parents pete9708 Wane 1798 Calderbridge John Wane born Calderbridge 1798 married Mary Black St Bridgets Beckermet 20-7-1822 Any links to you? pete9708 Ward 1700 2006 MD>KY,USA Seaching all descendents t all states tumphrey Ward 1794 1883 SC>AL>Houston Co, TX William Thomas, Isaac, Martha mag7885 Warren 1600 2007 uk>us>va>nc>sc anson ,union,richmond,marlboro,chesterfield,darlington counties bigdogb Warren 1780's Now England>Beaver Co PA>IL>MI pawliv Warsinski 1860 now POM,PRU,DEU>UnionCo,NJ>Sanibel,FL,USA bemeyer Wason 1880 now UK London, includes Stephen, marriage 1916? mike70 Watford 1600 2007 uk>us>va>nc>sc norfolk,va ,bertie nc,darl.sc bigdogb Watkins 1690 1971 England>NC,USA alldbill Watts 1800 1865 ?>MO, USA misskity Watts 1873 Victoria - Australia Arthur Angus was B1873 Mother was Elizabeth and Father James? tonkies Weaver 1805 1920 Maryland>Ohio>Ky jalapeno Webb 1762 1900 UK mj84rd Webert 1845 1889 Germany>WI>IA roseann6 Weed 1866 1975 VA>OK>IA orlar Weeks 1748 1958 MA>UT famhugz Weeks 1800 1900 Mississippi to Texas sdhill24 Wehrly 1837 1956 OH>IN pwcase Weigman 1821 2005 Bavaria>MD JamCas Weils 1803 1850 WPRU,DEU jimtell Weinmann 1812 BAD-WUE,DEU gregwein Weir 1877 ABD,SCT satyr Welch 1811 1901 Shepton Mallett SOM > Portsea HAM > Ryde IOW elarson Wennemar 1923 2007 billings,mt katiez Westrick 1700 2007 Germany abbie12 Wever 1805 1920 Maryland>Ohio>Ky jalapeno Whale 1918 1999 Australia Born Rhodesia jopesa Whipple 1800 1950 from Germany Terrebonne Louisiana nonnad41 Whipple 1875 MI clk13990 White 1720's now Amwell Twp., Somerset, New Jersey> Brownsville, Fayette Co., Pennsylvania Tabitha Pritchard 1789-1881> Tabitha White & James Pritchard> Edward White & Rebecca Pelton [American Revolution New Jersey . Seely's Reg] trowk2 White 1746 1836 Berkshire Kingsclere/Burghclere/Thatcham Direct descendant of Thomas White inmate Bradfield Workhouse as farm labourer Due invention of threshing machine Pioneer of family to Manchester Feb 1836 pete9708 White 1799 1835 Bradfield > Hyde Arrived Hyde in Cheshire England in Feruary 1836 with wife and ten children. Was inmate of Bradfield Workhouse. I request other names of inmates in 1835. pete9708 White 1835 1836 Bradfield Workhouse Want list of inmates at Bradfield Workhouse 1835-36 I am a direct descendant of Thomas White and Elizabeth nee Richardson +10 Married 4-10-1820 Burghclere our pioneers pete9708 White 1861 GEORGIA dns63 White 1875 1965 TN-AL William H ( Will ) Mary E ( Lizzie ) rfbrewer Whiting 1831 1910 VT?>WabashaCo, MN kimmrg Whitley 1835 NC>TN edwinj Whitley 1873 1945 TN>TX edwinj Whitley 1897 1963 TX edwinj Whitley 1923 TX edwinj Whitley 1943 TX edwinj Whitten 1898 1955 mississippi-to-florida trying to find info and possibly picture of my grandfatehr alonzo louis whitten tangelo Wibert 1848 now NY>WoodCo,OH>CharlevoixCo>OnandagaCo>EmmettCo,MI, Ingham Co, MI>FL,USA Martin, Alpha, Levi, Sylvanus, Eva, Chester, Malcomb, Charley, Hazel giner Wichman 1827 now Bobruisk,BLR>Milwaukee,WI>CA,USA doseas Wickham 1817 now FloydCo,VA mearis Wicks 1888 1974 NY M:Anna Koster (sp?) cab6014 Wienecke 1833 now Ger>Il tripper1 Wiesmann 1805 GER>NY>OH lawyer1 Wilcox 1720's now ?> Canada> New York> Iowa James Irvin Wilcox> Passmore De Los Wilcox trowk2 Wildermuth 1856 1916 Aug. Cty, Ohio Geyer, Ohio and Jackson Center, Ohio Muth Wildey 1774 1901 Derbyshire yorkshire almarl Wildridge 1800 c 1852 FIF,SCT,LKS,SCT rugby2 Wiley 1700s now North Ireland>PA>OH>IA&KS Also sp. WYLIE, WEYLIE marghh Wiley 1782 now? SC>MO>CA-NV>CO John> cetuo67 Wilkerson 1700's now "Indian Territory" Plantation Edisto, Colleton Co., South Carolina Plantation Edisto, Colleton Co., South Carolina> Christopher Wilkinson late16??> Christopher Wilkinson & Elizabeth Farr . 2nd wife> Edward Wilkinson & Molly Wolf [Molly Wolf was Cherokee ] married before 1766 trowk2 Wilkerson 1700s 1900s AR Juaken Wilkes 1971 now AL Rebecca doughter of Thomas Franklin Wilkes and 1st wife Patricia Ann Williams Wilkes; sisters Robin, Ronna, Rachel, Ramona & Ramsi greyhair Williams 1700 present N Carolina,Georgia,Alabama noraally Williams 1800 2007 SC, Nacogdoches Co. San Augustine Co.TX ljlee Williams 1859(60) 1863 Carter Co. Ky.-Springfield,Morgan Co., Il. Amanda Carper married Robert S. in 1859 in Ky. sniper1 Williams 1864 1880 Il.-Nebraska City, Oteo Co., NE Most of the nine children born in NE. sniper1 Willie 1830 1920 Deu>NY>MI Hellers Married Willie diana982 Willis 1780 1840 VA to Kentucky buddy77 Wilson 1844 2007 ABD,SCT satyr Wiltermuth 1824 1904 germany settled in Jackson Center area Muth Winn 1750 1860 IR>PA>KN>IN>,USA connects to Leary kileigh3 Winn 1812 now Tn>Il tripper1 Wintibaugh 1886 2007 OK,>Kentucky>Ok>CO born on Cherokee Nation,OK cherok3 Wojtalik 1850 1950 Slovakia>MA pammy60 Wolosin 1900 present CSK>PA>NY>NJ buffster Wonchalski 1800 Prussia/Posen Grzym Wonchalski 1880 Germany Grzym Wonnacott 1775 1908 Glover,Thornbury,UK paganoni Wood 1800 1900 england to toronto joborne Wood 1800 1920 England>Indiana Woodbury-My Great-Great Grands are John and Ominda (De)Bucy ElizWood Wood 1800 now KY, IL bwinings Wood 1860 1940 Rocommon, Ireland, Queensland Australia roblaws Woodard 1782 1930 EssexCo,NJ>DelawareCo,NY>OH>IA>MO>KS,USA William and Ichabod and David skaley Woodruff 1700 Now Va.>Mo. guymowen Woods 1800 now Elk City, OK>CA Lindyjo Woods 1860 1940 Rocommon, Ireland, Queensland Australia roblaws Woolfenden 1600 now Hunts>Cambridgeshire cruwys Wooten 1924 2007 LawrenceCo,KY>OH>KY spouse of Willard patchldy Worden 1800 Now ENG>Ont Co.>Perth Co.>Alg Dist.,ON,CAN keimly Wormell 1870 1910 Phillips, Maine Alago Wormington 1675 virgina missouri texas nancy angeline wormington grate112 Worrell 1811 1929 NY>OH>IA>OK orlar Wos 1894 Aug 1984 Kamien, Nisko Poland Grandmothers side JKida Wronkiewicz 1900 now Russian Poland>PA>IL,USA wronkiew Wude 1928 1960 NSAC>Hessen,DEU>USA sandersw Wurter Abt 1623 DEU>Sülzfeld>Württemberg Walpurga Wurter wlgreene See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

In article <Raymj.524$xq2.113@newssvr21.news.prodigy.net>, "Ace" <fake@fake.com> wrote: > What is '72'? It is not her age. The death was reported by a funeral home. See <https://secure.ssa.gov/apps10/poms.nsf/lnx/0202602125> jim

To: Terry > I believe polie officers in US also hold down other jobe - a strict no-no > in UK. I have many friends who are officers in the UK... it's a GOOD job over there... you are paid fair and respected. In the US the police officers are not paid what they are worth... get little public respect... and are in unimaginable danger all the time. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City Online - Louisville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

Thanks Allen. I thought it had started much earlier. John "jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote in message news:Tfxmj.28528$yQ1.27455@edtnps89... >I wonder when people were required to get Social Security numbers. I have a >relative born in 1899. He got his first full time job with a newspaper in >Iowa in 1920. After 4 years he moved to Tennessee where he worked as an >advertising manager for a newspaper for 10 years. Then in 1935 he went to >work for a newspaper in Texas. His Social Security number was issued in >Texas-by then he would have been at least 36. Didn't people need SSNs >before 1935 or were certain jobs exempt? > John

Hi. When looking at a person on the SS death index it has listed "Last Residence" as "(72)". What is '72'? It is not her age. Thanks

I wonder when people were required to get Social Security numbers. I have a relative born in 1899. He got his first full time job with a newspaper in Iowa in 1920. After 4 years he moved to Tennessee where he worked as an advertising manager for a newspaper for 10 years. Then in 1935 he went to work for a newspaper in Texas. His Social Security number was issued in Texas-by then he would have been at least 36. Didn't people need SSNs before 1935 or were certain jobs exempt? John

To: alt.genealogy In the United States, a Social Security number (SSN) is a 9-digit number issued to citizens, permanent residents, and temporary (working) residents under section 205(c)(2) of the Social Security Act, codified as 42 U.S.C. The number is issued to an individual by the Social Security Administration, an agency of the U.S. Federal Government. Its primary purpose is to track individuals for taxation purposes. In recent years the SSN has become a de facto national identification number.[1] A social security number may be obtained by applying on Form SS-5, "Application for A Social Security Number Card" History The first SSNs were issued by the Social Security Administration in November 1936 as part of the New Deal Social Security program. By the end of 1937, over 37 million numbers had been issued. Before 1986, people often did not have a Social Security number until the age of about 14, since they were used for income tracking purposes, and those under that age seldom had substantial income. In 1986, American taxation law was altered so that individuals over 5 years old without Social Security numbers could not be successfully claimed as dependents on tax returns; by 1990 the threshold was lowered to 1 year old[3], and was later abolished altogether. Since then, parents have often applied for Social Security numbers for their children soon after birth; today, it can be done on the application for a birth certificate[4]. Social Security Cards up until the 1980s expressly stated the number and card were not to be used for identification purposes. Purpose and Use The original purpose of this number was to track individuals' accounts within the Social Security program. It has since come to be used as a unique identifier for individuals within the United States, although rare errors occur where duplicates do exist. Employee records, patient records, student records, and credit records are sometimes indexed by Social Security number. The U.S. military has used the Social Security number as an identification number for the Army and Air Force since July 1, 1969, the Navy and Marine Corps since January 1, 1972, and the Coast Guard since October 1, 1974.[5] Contrary to popular belief, there is no law requiring a U.S. citizen to apply for a Social Security number to live or work in the United States; however, it is required for parents to claim their children as tax dependents[6]. Although some people do not have an SSN assigned to them, it is becoming ever increasingly difficult to engage in legitimate financial activities without one. Federal taxpayer identification number The Internal Revenue Code provides that "[t]he social security account number issued to an individual for purposes of section 205(c)(2)(A) of the Social Security Act shall, except as shall otherwise be specified under regulations of the Secretary [of the Treasury or his delegate], be used as the identifying number for such individual for purposes of this title." Types of Social Security cards Three different types of Social Security cards are issued. The most common type contains the cardholder's name and number. Such cards are issued to U.S. citizens and U.S. permanent residents. There are also two restricted types of Social Security cards: * One reads "NOT VALID FOR EMPLOYMENT." Such cards cannot be used as proof of work authorization, and are not acceptable as a List C document on the I-9 form. * The other reads "VALID FOR WORK ONLY WITH DHS AUTHORIZATION." These cards are issued to people who have temporary work authorization in the U.S. They can satisfy the I-9 requirement, if they are accompanied by a work authorization card. In 2004 Congress passed The Intelligence Reform and Terrorism Prevention Act; parts of which mandated that the Social Security Administration redesign the Social Security Number (SSN) Card to prevent forgery. From April 2006 through August, 2007, Social Security Administration (SSA) and Government Printing Office (GPO) employees were assigned to redesign the Social Security Number Card to the specifications of the Interagency Task Force created by the Commissioner of Social Security in consultation with the secretary of Homeland Security. The new SSN card design utilizes both covert and overt cutting edge security features created by the SSA and GPO design teams. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City Online - Louisville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

To: Terry > Please provide proof. I personally thnk thats a load of bollocks or at the > very least an urban myth. May be just a US thing. It's part of a standard employment screening now.. and if you are a police officer or a public official they do it often while you are employed. Look at the Lexington KY POlice officers who arrested the Country Music Star John Michael Montgomery... they were all disciplined or fired for posting information about the arrest on their blogs and myspace. One of them even commented about how the "whiny rich Lexington Kentucky residents" treat their police officers. Things can come back to haunt you bigtime. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City Online - Louisville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

To: Liz_in_Calgary > I have used my "screen name" for years. My email isn't > bungled, it works, it has for years. It isn't anon. Some > people on this list know my name and address too! > > And if I posted under my "real name" would that tell you > anything more about me? Coupled with the hidden ip addres in your messages header we can tell what town you live in. There are search sites like Zabasearch.com that will list more information that I want people to know about me. Bottom line... you can be found with your full real name... and zabasearch will often give a birthdate too. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City Online - Louisville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com

To: singhals > Be that as it may, if I get e-mail from "ghost45@spam.cop" > asking about someone in my genealogy database, he's not > getting an answer until/unless I figure out who he actually IS. > > > Cheryl And this is from someone useing a handle as "SINGHALS" When I do genealogy research I always introduce myself and tell where I am and where my family is from. It's all a matter of how much and how comfortable you are in sharing the information with people. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- The Derby City BBS -= Allen Prunty =- telnet://derbycitybbs.com -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Where Friends Gather --- Synchronet 3.15a-Win32 NewsLink 1.85 * Derby City Online - Louisville, KY - telnet://derbycitybbs.com