I'm confused. Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter, Grace, . Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so, how? If not, what is he and how? Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just make up some names. Thanks muchly

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message news:-fKdnTd6QYS8MT3anZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@rcn.net... || | I remember hearin' about an ex-half-brother ... I was NEVER | certain I had the mechanics of that down! Trying to confuse me?? You've succeeded! | | Bon Carnival!! You donatin' a chicken this year? | | Cheryl | Only if someone comes up my porch on horseback! Yipes! Only six days to go! Henri

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message news:-fKdnTZ6QYQ3MT3anZ2dnUVZ_ozinZ2d@rcn.net... | | Heck, I can't even find a site that gives the "cannon" | relationships. ;) I bin a-wonderin' tho -- are you | cannon-cousins when her Daddy outranked his and so had | sumtin biggern a shotgun? | | Cheryl Banged if I know! Henri

Johnny wrote: > > <info@telenet.be> wrote in message > news:ULQnj.10387$EA.280@biebel.telenet-ops.be... >> Beste klant, >> >> Telenet heeft een migratie gedaan van haar nieuwsservers. >> >> Wat betekent dit concreet voor jou als gebruiker? >> >> Er verandert niets aan de service, maar om verder gebruik te maken van de >> Telenet nieuwsgroepen service moet je bij de instellingen van je >> nieuwslezer >> het adres van de nieuwsserver veranderen van news.telenet.be of >> newsbin.telenet.be in newsgroups.telenet.be. Verder dien je de >> authenticatie >> op deze nieuwsserver uit te schakelen. >> >> Met vriendelijke groeten, >> >> Het Telenet team >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Cher client, >> >> Telenet a effectue une migration de ses serveurs de newsgroup. >> >> Pour continuer a utiliser les newsgroups de Telenet, modifiez dans la >> configuration de lecteur de nouvelles l'adresse du serveur de newsgroup: >> newsgroups.telenet.be a la place de news.telenet.be ou >> newsbin.telenet.be. Ceci ne necessite pas que vous vous identifiez pour >> acceder a ce serveur de >> newsgroup. >> >> Cordialement, >> >> L'equipe Telenet >> > > WTF?? Telenet is a cable operator in Belgium. It distributes TV and internet services. Why they are using this to inform their clients beats me. Herman Viaene -- Veel mensen danken hun goed geweten aan hun slecht geheugen. (G. Bomans) Lots of people owe their good conscience to their bad memory (G. Bomans)

Michael Kenefick wrote: > Oops. Not meant for this location. Mike in Ohio > > Michael Kenefick wrote: > >> look at this site for explanations of belt loops. >> http://www.boyscouttrail.com/search.asp >> >> I have rescheduled the Go and See for Saturday February 9 at 11:00 am >> >> Mike >> > S'okay, Mike, our Pack couldn't make it the 9th anyway. ;) Cheryl

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:06:48 -0600, Johnny wrote: > And here I was trying to discourage a SPAMMER If they posted in the right place, ie marketplace, they wouldn't be a spammer! In here they are spammers, in there they are not! That's why it's called "marketplace" :))

Oops. Not meant for this location. Mike in Ohio Michael Kenefick wrote: > look at this site for explanations of belt loops. > http://www.boyscouttrail.com/search.asp > > I have rescheduled the Go and See for Saturday February 9 at 11:00 am > > Mike >

look at this site for explanations of belt loops. http://www.boyscouttrail.com/search.asp I have rescheduled the Go and See for Saturday February 9 at 11:00 am Mike

December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with Z - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Zaza 1903 IT>OH,USA tlucente Zelenak 1861 1914 Lithuania>>Baltimore>IL byeoman Zicopoulas abt1870 Now Greece>FL>NY dazman6 Zindler 1949 2007 billings, mt katiez Zoelle 1800 PRU>Watertown, WI ppincher Zucca 1850 now Capodistria, IST, AUT > Trieste marian16 See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

Due to requests in the past for info on DEMPSTER in Louisiana, I am posting the following obituary which appeared in today's edition of The Courier in Houma, LA. Henry F. BROWNLEE Houma, Louisiana Article published Jan 29, 2008 Jan 29, 2008 Deal Frank Dempster, 91, a native of Vacherie and resident of Chackbay, died at 6:50 p.m. Sunday, Jan. 27, 2008. Visitation will be from 9 a.m. to funeral time Wednesday at Our Lady of Prompt Succor Catholic Church in Chackbay. Mass will be at 11 a.m. Wednesday at the church, with burial in the church cemetery. He is survived by two sons, A.J. Dempster and Ray Dempster; five daughters, Rose Becnel, Dolores Diaz, Diane Dempster, Elena Rink and Judy Henry; one sister, Inez Falgoust; 24 grandchildren; 46 great-grandchildren; and 14 great-great-grandchildren. He was preceded in death by his wife, Alice Simoneaux Dempster; his parents, Gustave Dempster and Mosela Boutte Dempster; one son, Julius Dempster; two brothers, Dieudonne Dempster and Guy Dempster; three sisters, Florence Cortez, Epheie Babin and Mable Molaison; and one grandson, Jonathan Rink. Thibodaux Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements.

Tara....You are good! Thank you sooooo much. OK...where is he in 1860? Apparently they have misspelled his name again. I found him in four census without any problems. If you happen to find him in 1860, please give me a shout. Thanks again for your efforts. Carolyn Tara wrote: > 1900 United States Federal Census > Name: George W Nyath > Home in 1900: Delaware, Leavenworth, Kansas > Age: 65 > Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 > Birthplace: Pennsylvania > Relationship to head-of-house: Inmate > Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Delaware, Leavenworth, Kansas; > Roll: T623 485; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 85 >

"Henry Brownlee" <hfbrownl@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:Z0Inj.64846$_m.20487@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > > Just to confuse the flatlanders, Why? What have I done to offend? ;) Lesley Robertson

1900 United States Federal Census Name: George W Nyath Home in 1900: Delaware, Leavenworth, Kansas Age: 65 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Relationship to head-of-house: Inmate Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Delaware, Leavenworth, Kansas; Roll: T623 485; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 85 -- Tara Larkin Remove NO SPAM to reply by email. "Carolyn S." <cgsimo@gmail.com> wrote in message news:479df7d0$0$17370$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Good morning group, > I have a great grandfather who is missing in the 1860, 1870 and 1900 > census. I would appreciate any and all help. Ggrandfather George married > Mary Ann Elizabeth Thomas (1851-1889) on 13 Feb 1866 in Terre Haute, Vigo, > Indiana. They had 3 sons, Otis Redman,(1869 - ?) Guy Angus (1874-1900) > Thomas Vance (1881- ?)and 2 daughters, Olive (1876-?) and my grandmother, > Grace Agnes (1884-1928.) > In 1850 he was living with father in Spring, Pennsylvania. In 1880, with > wife and children in Kansas City, Kansas. I would love to find him the > above census years. > Thanks for looking. > Carolyn

I send out what I call "Family Factoids" periodically with little bits of information I've gathered. regarding our family as I researched I keep it very simple and send it out to nieces, nephews, my brother, my children, etc. I quote below one factoid about family relationships that I sent last January as a little teaching vignette. This is the scenario: I have one sibling----a brother named Karon He has a daughter named Charla and a grand-daughter named Molly. I have a son named Gunter and a grand-daughter named Heidi. Jack and Jill are hypothetical. Warmest Regards, Donna Okay, relationship factoid quoted below: ____________________________________ Hello---- Fear not; there are no pop-quizzes on factoids. You can read them and forget them; or read them and think about them and then forget them; or read and remember, whatever suits your personal interests. I swear I will never ask you about them at some future time. I pass along the information below so that next time you are watching Gone With the Wind, you will be on the up and up with the vocabulary. :-) Have you heard someone say, "He's my second cousin, once removed"? I was never really clear on what the "removed" part was until I started this research into family history. I can explain it now as follows: Consider this lineage::::: Donna <siblings> Karon ---------- have the same parents Gunter <first cousins> Charla ---------- have the same grandparents Heidi <second cousins> Molly ---------- have the same great grandparents Because their parents are brother and sister, Gunter and Charla are first cousins. Because their grandparents are brother and sister, Heidi and Molly are second cousins. But what relationship is Gunter to Molly? Gunter and Molly are of different generations, so (unless there is some weird additional marrying going on) they cannot be first cousins and they cannot be second cousins either. But they are "first cousins, once removed." That is, Gunter and Charla have a first cousin relationship, and Molly is one generation removed from that relationship.. Consider that Heidi has a son named Jack, and Molly has a daughter named Jill: Donna <siblings> Karon Gunter <first cousins> Charla Heidi <second cousins> Molly Jack <third cousins> Jill Jack and Jill would be third cousins. They are of the same generation. But what is the relationship of Gunter to Jill? Gunter and Charla have a first cousin relationship, but Jill is two generations from that relationship. So Gunter and Jill are said to be "first cousins, twice removed." And what is the relationship between Heidi and Jill? Heidi and Molly have a second cousin relationship, and Jill is one generation from that relationship. So Heidi and Jill are "second cousins, one removed." And, by the way, what is the relationship between Heidi's hypothetical son Jack and Karon? Jack is Karon's "great grand-nephew," and Karon is Jack's great grand-uncle." There's the bell for lunch. Don't push as you leave the room. No running in the hall. Love, Mom / Donna / Aunt Donna

Hmm.... there's some unique names there. You'd think they'd be a bit easier to find. Here's a start: 1870 United States Federal Census Name: George Wafath Estimated Birth Year: abt 1835 Age in 1870: 35 Birthplace: Pennsylvania Source Citation: Year: 1870; Census Place: Terre Haute Ward 5, Vigo, Indiana; Roll: M593_366; Page: 568; Image: 851 -- Tara Larkin Remove NO SPAM to reply by email. "Carolyn S." <cgsimo@gmail.com> wrote in message news:479df7d0$0$17370$4c368faf@roadrunner.com... > Good morning group, > I have a great grandfather who is missing in the 1860, 1870 and 1900 > census. I would appreciate any and all help. Ggrandfather George married > Mary Ann Elizabeth Thomas (1851-1889) on 13 Feb 1866 in Terre Haute, Vigo, > Indiana. They had 3 sons, Otis Redman,(1869 - ?) Guy Angus (1874-1900) > Thomas Vance (1881- ?)and 2 daughters, Olive (1876-?) and my grandmother, > Grace Agnes (1884-1928.) > In 1850 he was living with father in Spring, Pennsylvania. In 1880, with > wife and children in Kansas City, Kansas. I would love to find him the > above census years. > Thanks for looking. > Carolyn

December 2007 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with Y - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 January 2008 Yanoshak 1894 now UKR>PA>NC>CA Also Yanoschak jaschr71 Yarnell 1750 1900 ENG>PA David Yarnell b. 1826 grnthmbs Yearnd 1850 Now Germany/MI pawliv Yelf 1600's now Isle of Wight to England Qcumber Yohe 1853 1989 Jefferson Cnt, PA lived in Paradise PA showboy1 Young 1800 1900 Florida sdhill24 Young 1802 now Hampshire Co VA>WV>MD,USA Allegany Co MD dlech Young 1871 1949 Pickens, SC my great great grandfather, john lewis lizt13 See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

"Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robertson@tnw.tudelft.nl> wrote in message news:a8282$479f5418$83b4502b$18040@news2.tudelft.nl... | | "Henry Brownlee" <hfbrownl@bellsouth.net> wrote in message | news:Z0Inj.64846$_m.20487@bignews4.bellsouth.net... | > | > Just to confuse the flatlanders, | | Why? What have I done to offend? | ;) | Lesley Robertson | Doc, U hebt niets, beste meisje gedaan! Ik gekscheerde slechts. Ye have doon nay thing, lass! Just joshing! Hendrik

"yojay" <yojay99@gmail.com> wrote in message news:cc830a67-6179-4df6-a83f-794455e2b2cb@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... On Dec 11 2007, 8:29 pm, "k..." <jst...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > "yojay" <yoja...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:388e9d38-0d23-4884-ae25-7f3d6e9f34b8@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > >http://www.cafepress.com/yojay/4232846 > > > I made these designs for my online shop but I was looking for other, > > more obscure, relative titles. I plan to add a line of "Once removed" > > and "Twice removed" designs to the cousins, but that's about it. I > > searched for obscure relative titles but couldn't come up with much > > more than these. Is there a site or table that shows all possible > > relations? > > Here's a link to a chart showing relationships. > > http://genealogy.about.com/library/nrelationshipchart.htm > > Kevin >Great stuff. Thanks for all the feedback. Yo! Jay! Here's some you probably won't find on any relationship charts: Half First Cousin Double First Cousin Cousin-In-Law Brother-In-Law-In-Law (Sister,etc) Ex-Husband (Wife) Divorced But Still VERY Close Friend OK! OK! So I made some of them up! But the first two are real! When there are multiple marriages (or relationships) the grandkids from one partner are Half First Cousins to the grandkids from another. When family relationships are intertwined, there can be Double First Cousins - i.e. two siblings marry two siblings (all four are NOT from the same parents - not even in Luziane!) the children are Double First Cousins to each other. And there can be children who are also cousins to their parents: Loving Son and First Cousin Once Removed of Mom, etc. There is no end of relationships which one can conjure. Saveur! Henri

"yojay" <yojay99@gmail.com> wrote in message news:cc830a67-6179-4df6-a83f-794455e2b2cb@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... On Dec 11 2007, 8:29 pm, "k..." <jst...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > "yojay" <yoja...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:388e9d38-0d23-4884-ae25-7f3d6e9f34b8@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > >http://www.cafepress.com/yojay/4232846 > > > I made these designs for my online shop but I was looking for other, > > more obscure, relative titles. I plan to add a line of "Once removed" > > and "Twice removed" designs to the cousins, but that's about it. I > > searched for obscure relative titles but couldn't come up with much > > more than these. Is there a site or table that shows all possible > > relations? > > Here's a link to a chart showing relationships. > > http://genealogy.about.com/library/nrelationshipchart.htm > > Kevin Great stuff. Thanks for all the feedback. ATTN: Cheryl Just to confuse the flatlanders, is there a site like the one mentioned above that shows relationships like they figure them in bayou country??? There are several sites which show relationships like that one, but I have never seen one that configures them like our brethren here in da swamps do. Henri

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 16:58:33 -0500, ecunningham <ecunningham@att.net> wrote: >Henry: True--no SSN no tax deduction. Ah, yes. The greatest disappearance in history was when 7 million American children suddenly vanished on 15 April 1987. That was when the Internal Revenue Service required the child's social security number if it was claimed as a tax deducation. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work) Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/