"Robert Melson" <melsonr@aragorn.rgmhome.net> wrote in message news:13q227dp43k9ef6@corp.supernews.com... |> | Guess I'm confused by this thread. Are we asking about | titles for obscure relatives or obscure titles for relatives? | | Stupefied Ol' Bob | | -- | Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas | ----- | Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable | reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford | Bob, Ol' Son, The OP was apparently asking for obscure titles for relatives. Then, again, if they need obscure titles, they must be obscure relatives, wot? BTW, went to his site - after somebody called him a spammer. Guess he is, although he only asked for titles and wasn't pushing his products in this venue. Henry Brownlee Houma, Louisiana

How about Geni.com?

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message news:ctWdnZ0gkfKz0z_anZ2dnUVZ_oKhnZ2d@rcn.net... | An' not an Hebert in sight. Is Sonny Como Perry's | half-step-bro ? I wuz gonna use Hebert and Bergeron, but I have those lines with my in-laws, so I didn't. Maybe Perry's ex-half-step-bro? BTW, we do have Como as well as Comeaux down here. | > And Cheryl was trying to confuse me with the ex-half-brother thingy! | | pas si bete, cher! I was hopin' you'd remember how that worked? Je sais. ;-) Like clifto said, maybe he was dead. | > Henry Brownlee | > Houma, LA | > One wife for 55 years, two daughters, and no other children that I know of. | | Is the last clause the key? You tell your wife, I said she | can borry my rollin' pin. Non, Cher! She has her own! But she don' hafta use it on me. no! | Cheryl Henri

Henry Brownlee wrote: > I tho't we were finished with dis subject, me, yeah! But alas, after just > reading an obit in today's Houma Courier, I had to pass it along. The names, > dates and times are ficticious to protect the innocent (me). > > "T-Boy Boudreaux, age 25, a native and resident of Houma, died at 00:00 pm > Monday Jan. 00, 2008. Visitation will be from 8 a.m. today until funeral > time at 11 a.m. at the Last Go'round Funeral Home in Houma, with burial in > the Above-Ground Cemetery. > > "He is survived by his mother and step-father Bessie B. and Billy Jones; his > father, Sonny Como; his step-father Alphonse Thibodeaux; one brother, > Joachim Thibodeaux; two half-brothers, Sonny Como, Jr. and Clovis Como; two > step-brothers, Billy, Jr. and Tooty Jones; one sister, Jessie Thibodeaux; > two step-sisters, Amy Jones and Shirley Breaux; his grandparents, Jack, Sr. > and Chrissie Brown Boudreaux and Ray and Tessie Smith Como; and his > great-grandmother, Alice Boudreaux. > > "Donations to the family to help with funeral expenses are preferred. > > "Last Go'round Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements." > > Did y'all follow all of that? The only Boudreauxs mentioned were the > deceased and his grandparents and great-grandmother. His mother is listed as > Bessie B., so it would appear she was nee Boudreaux. > An' not an Hebert in sight. Is Sonny Como Perry's half-step-bro ? > And Cheryl was trying to confuse me with the ex-half-brother thingy! pas si bete, cher! I was hopin' you'd remember how that worked? > > Henry Brownlee > Houma, LA > One wife for 55 years, two daughters, and no other children that I know of. Is the last clause the key? You tell your wife, I said she can borry my rollin' pin. Cheryl

Me wrote: > I'm confused. > > Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my > grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter, > Grace, . > > Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister > > She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so, > how? If not, what is he and how? > > Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just > make up some names. > > Thanks muchly > > Hi, Yes you have it correct, an easy way to tell is by using a drop down chart that keeps each level equal in this case if any one leg of the drop down chart is unequal the for each level it is unequal it is x times removed x being the number of levels that the leg is unequal; In this case; Progenitor = Emanual Sylvester Brothers and sisters = Grace, Robert and George 1st Cousins ( Uncles and Aunties)(James(son of Grace)) and (William son of Robert)(your father)) 2nd Cousins (Robert William(You, son of William)) 3rd Cousins As you can see in this case you are one level down form James and thus you are 1 times removed making James your 1st cousin 1 times removed. Now if you had children then they would be first cousins twice removed from James. I think I have this correct if not some one is bound to put us right on this. David

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:30:24 -0800, Me wrote: > I'm confused. Don't worry, it's our ancestors favourite game :)) > [Grace] had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? > If so, how? If not, what is he and how? > > Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? > Just make up some names. Try these sites: http://www.obliquity.com/family/misc/cousin.html http://www.genealogy.com/16_cousn.html -- http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/

"Photon713" wrote: > I create the entries in Family Tree Maker and > generate a kinship report. It tells me who is 1st, 2nd, Once removed, > twice > removed cousins, etc. I do this with Legacy by pulling up two people in the Generate Relationship tool. Shows the line list which created the relationship also. Simple to get a quick answer. Also in Legacy, I designate a person (usually myself), and then each other person's relationship to me (if any) shows above his record on the monitor every time I go to that record for any reason. It also includes "Married to Great Grand Aunt," etc., which can be very helpful. Very nice. Donna

On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 11:30:24 -0800, "Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote: >I'm confused. > >Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my >grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter, >Grace, . > >Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister > >She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so, >how? If not, what is he and how? > >Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just >make up some names. James's children would be your secodn cousins. -- Steve Hayes E-mail: hayesmstw@hotmail.com (see web page if it doesn't work) Web: http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/

In article <As6oj.86243$L%6.33601@bignews3.bellsouth.net>, "Henry Brownlee" <hfbrownl@bellsouth.net> writes: > > "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message > news:-fKdnTd6QYS8MT3anZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@rcn.net... >| I remember hearin' about an ex-half-brother ... I was NEVER >| certain I had the mechanics of that down! >| >| Cheryl >| > > I could understand if it was an ex-step-brother. I have two ex-step-sisters; > my mother and step-father divorced. (Perhaps a nicer term is former > step-sisters? ) But how about if they hadn't divorced and were still married > when one died. Would the girls still be my step-sisters? I would think so, > anyway. > > Henri > Guess I'm confused by this thread. Are we asking about titles for obscure relatives or obscure titles for relatives? Stupefied Ol' Bob -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- Thinking is the hardest work there is, which is the probable reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford

"Henry Brownlee" wrote: >[...] I have two ex-step-sisters; >my mother and step-father divorced. (Perhaps a nicer term is former >step-sisters? ) But how about if they hadn't divorced and were still married >when one died. Would the girls still be my step-sisters? I would think so, >anyway. My brother holds, firmly, that Katherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn were step-mothers of Edward VI.

Mike, How far back in years does the articles in this database go? Can you access this database from home or at your library? Thanks Diane "MikeS" <csaunders65@gmail.com> wrote in message news:9ef234fb-fbd9-4c63-843f-d4ccaf851651@e25g2000prg.googlegroups.com... On Jan 28, 3:46 pm, Huntersglenn <huntersgl...@cox.net> wrote: > curious as to how you found it (and envious of your searching abilities Cathy, My local library provides on line access to America's Obituaries & Death Notices which is a large and comprehensive collection of newspaper obituaries and death notices from around the United States. Each obituary or death notice is indexed by the name of the deceased person to make searching easier and more precise. In addition, the text of each obituary or death notice is searchable, making it easy to find just what you're looking for, using a place of residence, occupation, names of family members, or other personal information. Appreciate the complement re my skills but in this case it was just using the right resource. Mike

MikeS wrote: > On Jan 28, 3:46 pm, Huntersglenn <huntersgl...@cox.net> wrote: >> curious as to how you found it (and envious of your searching abilities > > Cathy, > > My local library provides on line access to > America's Obituaries & Death Notices which is a large and > comprehensive collection of newspaper obituaries and death notices > from around the United States. Each obituary or death notice is > indexed by the name of the deceased person to make searching easier > and more precise. In addition, the text of each obituary or death > notice is searchable, making it easy to find just what you're looking > for, using a place of residence, occupation, names of family members, > or other personal information. > > Appreciate the complement re my skills but in this case it was just > using the right resource. http://www.newsbank.com/libraries/product.cfm?product=26 Hugh W

Hi Me... I too get confused and usually rely on my wife to straighten it out. However, I've discovered another way. I create the entries in Family Tree Maker and generate a kinship report. It tells me who is 1st, 2nd, Once removed, twice removed cousins, etc. What's really neat is when one of your direct ancestors is also a cousin. Good Luck -- __________ lvMMMCCIX "Me" <me@acmewidgets.com> wrote in message news:13q1k1vklseht87@corp.supernews.com... > I'm confused. > > Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my > grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter, > Grace, . > > Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister > > She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? If so, > how? If not, what is he and how? > > Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just > make up some names. > > Thanks muchly >

paul c wrote: ... > > If James had a child, named, say 'Junior', you and James ... Oops, should have said "you and 'James Junior'" would be second cousins ...

Me wrote: > I'm confused. > > Emanuel Sylvester (my great-grandfather) had three kids. One was my > grandfather, the second was another son and the third was his daughter, > Grace, . > > Grace is the one I'm interested in. She's my grandfather's sister > > She had a son James. He's my first cousin, once removed, right? ... Yes, James and you are first cousins, once removed (he and your father share a grandfather). > > Can you please give me an example of who would be a second cousin? Just > make up some names. > ... If James had a child, named, say 'Junior', you and James would be second cousins (you would share a common great-grandfather). Yours and James' children would be third cousins (sharing a common great-great-grandfather. Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin ) gives various definitions, some people find the math formula clearest/easiest to remember.

Henry Brownlee wrote: > "singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message > news:-fKdnTd6QYS8MT3anZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@rcn.net... > | I remember hearin' about an ex-half-brother ... I was NEVER > | certain I had the mechanics of that down! > | > | Cheryl > | > > I could understand if it was an ex-step-brother. I have two ex-step-sisters; > my mother and step-father divorced. (Perhaps a nicer term is former > step-sisters? ) But how about if they hadn't divorced and were still married > when one died. Would the girls still be my step-sisters? I would think so, > anyway. I have an ex-brother. Stinker had the colossal nerve to go and die on me. Just for that I've never spoken to him again. -- God help us all, The next President of the United States will be a liberal.

I tho't we were finished with dis subject, me, yeah! But alas, after just reading an obit in today's Houma Courier, I had to pass it along. The names, dates and times are ficticious to protect the innocent (me). "T-Boy Boudreaux, age 25, a native and resident of Houma, died at 00:00 pm Monday Jan. 00, 2008. Visitation will be from 8 a.m. today until funeral time at 11 a.m. at the Last Go'round Funeral Home in Houma, with burial in the Above-Ground Cemetery. "He is survived by his mother and step-father Bessie B. and Billy Jones; his father, Sonny Como; his step-father Alphonse Thibodeaux; one brother, Joachim Thibodeaux; two half-brothers, Sonny Como, Jr. and Clovis Como; two step-brothers, Billy, Jr. and Tooty Jones; one sister, Jessie Thibodeaux; two step-sisters, Amy Jones and Shirley Breaux; his grandparents, Jack, Sr. and Chrissie Brown Boudreaux and Ray and Tessie Smith Como; and his great-grandmother, Alice Boudreaux. "Donations to the family to help with funeral expenses are preferred. "Last Go'round Funeral Home is in charge of arrangements." Did y'all follow all of that? The only Boudreauxs mentioned were the deceased and his grandparents and great-grandmother. His mother is listed as Bessie B., so it would appear she was nee Boudreaux. And Cheryl was trying to confuse me with the ex-half-brother thingy! Henry Brownlee Houma, LA One wife for 55 years, two daughters, and no other children that I know of.

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message news:-fKdnTd6QYS8MT3anZ2dnUVZ_oytnZ2d@rcn.net... | I remember hearin' about an ex-half-brother ... I was NEVER | certain I had the mechanics of that down! | | Cheryl | I could understand if it was an ex-step-brother. I have two ex-step-sisters; my mother and step-father divorced. (Perhaps a nicer term is former step-sisters? ) But how about if they hadn't divorced and were still married when one died. Would the girls still be my step-sisters? I would think so, anyway. Henri

Henry Brownlee wrote: > "yojay" <yojay99@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:cc830a67-6179-4df6-a83f-794455e2b2cb@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 11 2007, 8:29 pm, "k..." <jst...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > >>"yojay" <yoja...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >>news:388e9d38-0d23-4884-ae25-7f3d6e9f34b8@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com... >> >> >>>http://www.cafepress.com/yojay/4232846 >> >>>I made these designs for my online shop but I was looking for other, >>>more obscure, relative titles. I plan to add a line of "Once removed" >>>and "Twice removed" designs to the cousins, but that's about it. I >>>searched for obscure relative titles but couldn't come up with much >>>more than these. Is there a site or table that shows all possible >>>relations? >> >>Here's a link to a chart showing relationships. >> >>http://genealogy.about.com/library/nrelationshipchart.htm >> >>Kevin > > > Great stuff. Thanks for all the feedback. > > ATTN: Cheryl > > Just to confuse the flatlanders, is there a site like the one mentioned > above that shows relationships like they figure them in bayou country??? > There are several sites which show relationships like that one, but I have > never seen one that configures them like our brethren here in da swamps do. > > Henri > Heck, I can't even find a site that gives the "cannon" relationships. ;) I bin a-wonderin' tho -- are you cannon-cousins when her Daddy outranked his and so had sumtin biggern a shotgun? Cheryl

Henry Brownlee wrote: > "yojay" <yojay99@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:cc830a67-6179-4df6-a83f-794455e2b2cb@c4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On Dec 11 2007, 8:29 pm, "k..." <jst...@columbus.rr.com> wrote: > >>"yojay" <yoja...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >>news:388e9d38-0d23-4884-ae25-7f3d6e9f34b8@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com... >> >> >>>http://www.cafepress.com/yojay/4232846 >> >>>I made these designs for my online shop but I was looking for other, >>>more obscure, relative titles. I plan to add a line of "Once removed" >>>and "Twice removed" designs to the cousins, but that's about it. I >>>searched for obscure relative titles but couldn't come up with much >>>more than these. Is there a site or table that shows all possible >>>relations? >> >>Here's a link to a chart showing relationships. >> >>http://genealogy.about.com/library/nrelationshipchart.htm >> >>Kevin > > >>Great stuff. Thanks for all the feedback. > > > Yo! Jay! > > Here's some you probably won't find on any relationship charts: > > Half First Cousin > Double First Cousin > Cousin-In-Law > Brother-In-Law-In-Law (Sister,etc) > Ex-Husband (Wife) > Divorced But Still VERY Close Friend > > OK! OK! So I made some of them up! > > But the first two are real! When there are multiple marriages (or > relationships) the grandkids from one partner are Half First Cousins to the > grandkids from another. When family relationships are intertwined, there can > be Double First Cousins - i.e. two siblings marry two siblings (all four are > NOT from the same parents - not even in Luziane!) the children are Double > First Cousins to each other. > > And there can be children who are also cousins to their parents: Loving Son > and First Cousin Once Removed of Mom, etc. There is no end of relationships > which one can conjure. Saveur! I remember hearin' about an ex-half-brother ... I was NEVER certain I had the mechanics of that down! Bon Carnival!! You donatin' a chicken this year? Cheryl