"catalpa" <catalpa@entertab.org> wrote in message news:Q6Irj.1131$r03.551@trnddc08... | | "clifto" <clifto@gmail.com> wrote in message | news:2bm385-9uo.ln1@remote.clifto.com... | >I just noticed. In the 1880 census, there are two columns, one for "Cannot | > read" and one for "cannot write". What does it mean for a person to be | > able | > to read but not to write? (And probably rhetorically, what about a person | > who can write but not read?) | > | | Read and writing are related, but different skills. In the 19th and early | 20th century many people never got past elementary school and could only | read poorly and write no more than their name. Thus being able to read, but | not write was common. If you don't learn to write, then you can't write. But how 'bout the other way around? Except for a physical handicap, how would you be able to write without being able to read? I do not mean physically holding a pen(cil) and scribbling characters, I mean writing comprehensive sentences. Henry

I have looked in the Help file. No RTF help, or how to convert from FTW to RTF. Buster "Kurt" <kurt.fredriksson@ieee.org> wrote in message news:6197m0F1uin4eU1@mid.individual.net... > "buster52" <buster52@pacbell.net> wrote in message > news:MFJrj.11905$hI1.10313@nlpi061.nbdc.sbc.com... >> I want to send a RTF file to someone. I have FTM #9. Can I do this > and how >> do I do it? >> >> Buster > > Please look in the Help!!!!!!!!! > > Kurt F > >

I want to send a RTF file to someone. I have FTM #9. Can I do this and how do I do it? Buster -- To be a Mason, as one.

"Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote in message news:618sjfF1ub10bU1@mid.individual.net... | clifto wrote: | > I just noticed. In the 1880 census, there are two columns, one for "Cannot | > read" and one for "cannot write". What does it mean for a person to be able | > to read but not to write? | I can read danish bu I can not write it very well | | I read german french swedish icelandic faeroese but write none of them | | | | > who but(And probacan writebly rhetorically, what about a person who can write not read? | | idiot!!! | | | children learn language by the natursal method | which follows a logical order | | first listening then imitation . . | understanidng may precede speaking | | as ascience student we were necouraged to read papers in any old | language and gte the gist of it | | Hugh W Hugh, I assume those were not typos above, but were designed to show us that we could read even if someone could not (properly) write? Henry

"singhals" <singhals@erols.com> wrote in message news:n_2dnfZaucrtuTLanZ2dnUVZ_sUAAAAA@rcn.net... > | > Personally, I think the third letter is a w -- that little serif at the | > upstroke? (see also Jules LOUIS, son of Celestin on pg 85B which has the | > same u-by-a-high-start-next letter combo); I don't see a Georges | > anywhere to compare with, but two lines above Celestin is a Eugene, and | > the ug combo doesn't have the serif. | > | > There is another Numa on pg 85B and Henri is of course the French | > version of Henry, so those two names are OK. | > | > FWIW. | > | > Cheryl | | And a peripheral glance as I was closing the page leads me | to add -- it COULD be a double-e at the end of the word. | Not that it makes either option a more recognizable word, | mind, even in Louisiana, but it's an indexing option. | | The final letter does not mimic other final s I see, nor | does it appear to be a t or d. | | Cheryl Kind of agree with Cheryl on the w: GOWGUES. But it could be an "u" which is disconnected from the balance of the name. But I think the final letter is an "s" - Monsieur Bourg's "s"es vary considerably from one name to the next. The final "s" in Charles on the same line as Gowgues/Gougues, in Ellis, James, and in not final but still approximately the same treatment in Louise, Alphonse, Alphonsine, etc., elsewhere on the page all seem to make it to be an "s". I had a heck of a time transcribing the 1850 Census of Algiers (part of Orleans Parish) for USGENWEB Census project due to handwriting. But I think I won! Henri/Henry

singhals wrote: > singhals wrote: >> clifto wrote: >> >>> 1880 Census, roll 469, page 85, family of Leo Lavergne and the one person >>> above them. >> >> HeritageQuest indexes Charles as: >> >> 1880 > LOUISIANA > ST JOHN THE BAPTIST > 5-WD >> Series: T9 Roll: 469 Page: 85 >> GOUGUES, CHARLES, 50, M W JAMA >> >> Personally, I think the third letter is a w -- that little serif at the >> upstroke? (see also Jules LOUIS, son of Celestin on pg 85B which has the >> same u-by-a-high-start-next letter combo); I don't see a Georges >> anywhere to compare with, but two lines above Celestin is a Eugene, and >> the ug combo doesn't have the serif. >> >> There is another Numa on pg 85B and Henri is of course the French >> version of Henry, so those two names are OK. I have been surprised since I posted to find people named Numas and Melazi. I thought I'd heard most first names before. > And a peripheral glance as I was closing the page leads me > to add -- it COULD be a double-e at the end of the word. > Not that it makes either option a more recognizable word, > mind, even in Louisiana, but it's an indexing option. > > The final letter does not mimic other final s I see, nor > does it appear to be a t or d. I'm going to look again once I uncross my eyes. :) -- God help us all. Because we're down to PIAPS, B. Hussein or McStain, the next President of the United States can only be a liberal Democrat,

Michael Kenefick wrote: > clifto wrote: >> I just noticed. In the 1880 census, there are two columns, one for "Cannot >> read" and one for "cannot write". What does it mean for a person to be able >> to read but not to write? (And probably rhetorically, what about a person >> who can write but not read?) > > They would only have a tick mark in one column. Mike in Ohio I have several people who have tick marks in both, and a few with a tick in only the 'cannot write', thus my question. -- God help us all. Because we're down to PIAPS, B. Hussein or McStain, the next President of the United States can only be a liberal Democrat,

On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:37:32 +0000, Charani wrote: > If someone is subscribed to a list/message board, places an ad, then > usubs again, nothing will stop the ad going through. Certainly with As I'm finding out. I run a small mailing list, and am starting to see odd things there. The snag is that some of the legitimate members are so clueless regarding mailing lists, it sometimes makes it hard to sort the wheat from the chaff. > the Help-Desk to get said ad removed. The boards are slightly > different in that I believe the admin can remove ads themselves. I loathe web-based message forums. Having to go to all those web sites, log in, look for new messages (okay, they're usually flagged), read, and if necessary, reply. I fail to see the point when an email client can be configured to connect to as many mail servers as required (normally one), d/l all the mail, sort it in to appropriate places, flag anything of special importance, etc, etc. It's just so much more convenient. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" I'm spending all my money and it's going up my nose Teenage Depression - Eddie & The Hot Rods

Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sun, 10 Feb 2008 09:37:32 +0000, Charani wrote: > > >>If someone is subscribed to a list/message board, places an ad, then >>usubs again, nothing will stop the ad going through. Certainly with > > > As I'm finding out. I run a small mailing list, and am starting to see > odd things there. The snag is that some of the legitimate members are so > clueless regarding mailing lists, it sometimes makes it hard to sort the > wheat from the chaff. > > >>the Help-Desk to get said ad removed. The boards are slightly >>different in that I believe the admin can remove ads themselves. > > > I loathe web-based message forums. Having to go to all those web sites, > log in, look for new messages (okay, they're usually flagged), read, and > if necessary, reply. I fail to see the point when an email client can be > configured to connect to as many mail servers as required (normally one), > d/l all the mail, sort it in to appropriate places, flag anything of > special importance, etc, etc. It's just so much more convenient. > I suggest you sign up for the admin notices on a one-of basis, then. They come with a link to be clicked which takes you directly to the right message. And for other RW message boards, the notices also include a hot-link to be clicked. It's never asked me for a log-in to view the message, only to reply to it. And no, it's not picking up an old cookie -- my system clears cookies and empties cache each time I close the browser, which is several times a day. Cheryl another RW-list/board admin

singhals wrote: > clifto wrote: > >> 1880 Census, roll 469, page 85, family of Leo Lavergne and the one person >> above them. Looks like >> >> Gourgues Charles >> Lavergne Leo >> Josephine >> Marie >> Melazi >> Numa >> Henri >> > > HeritageQuest indexes Charles as: > > 1880 > LOUISIANA > ST JOHN THE BAPTIST > 5-WD > Series: T9 Roll: 469 Page: 85 > GOUGUES, CHARLES, 50, M W JAMA > > Personally, I think the third letter is a w -- that little serif at the > upstroke? (see also Jules LOUIS, son of Celestin on pg 85B which has the > same u-by-a-high-start-next letter combo); I don't see a Georges > anywhere to compare with, but two lines above Celestin is a Eugene, and > the ug combo doesn't have the serif. > > There is another Numa on pg 85B and Henri is of course the French > version of Henry, so those two names are OK. > > FWIW. > > Cheryl And a peripheral glance as I was closing the page leads me to add -- it COULD be a double-e at the end of the word. Not that it makes either option a more recognizable word, mind, even in Louisiana, but it's an indexing option. The final letter does not mimic other final s I see, nor does it appear to be a t or d. Cheryl

buster52 wrote: > I am using Family Tree Maker #9. I have two files I would like to make into > one. How do I do this? - * - don't is the best advice - * - (2) back up both files and work with copies (3) open an EXTRA copy the file you wish to import and delete all duplicate entries except the one which will link the two trees [IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS FIRST IT WILL TAKE MANY HOURS OR DAYS OR WEEKS TO CLEAN UP THE ENSUING MESS] (4) For the details of how to do this in FTM 9 see Menu >> help and read the advice on importing and merging files (5) open and EXTRA copy of the master file - possibly rename it first and use menu >> File >> Import (6) later versions allow two copiea of eg FTM 16 to be open on the same machine for comparison and copy pasting FTM 16 is avialable at firewsale prices just now so grab a copy whilst you can for more help go to the knoweledge base and the boards and lists List information page http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/Software/FTM-TECH.html Online Support for Family Tree Maker http://pastftm.custhelp.com/ http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.software.famtreemaker/mb.ashx enjoy Hugh W -- For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/ http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

clifto wrote: > 1880 Census, roll 469, page 85, family of Leo Lavergne and the one person > above them. Looks like > > Gourgues Charles > Lavergne Leo > Josephine > Marie > Melazi > Numa > Henri > HeritageQuest indexes Charles as: 1880 > LOUISIANA > ST JOHN THE BAPTIST > 5-WD Series: T9 Roll: 469 Page: 85 GOUGUES, CHARLES, 50, M W JAMA Personally, I think the third letter is a w -- that little serif at the upstroke? (see also Jules LOUIS, son of Celestin on pg 85B which has the same u-by-a-high-start-next letter combo); I don't see a Georges anywhere to compare with, but two lines above Celestin is a Eugene, and the ug combo doesn't have the serif. There is another Numa on pg 85B and Henri is of course the French version of Henry, so those two names are OK. FWIW. Cheryl

I just noticed. In the 1880 census, there are two columns, one for "Cannot read" and one for "cannot write". What does it mean for a person to be able to read but not to write? (And probably rhetorically, what about a person who can write but not read?) -- God help us all. Because we're down to PIAPS, B. Hussein or McStain, the next President of the United States can only be a liberal Democrat,

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:07:22 +0000, Brad Rogers wrote: > I'm sure you do. I didn't mean to imply that administrators are anything > less than vigilant. I only meant that such attacks happen faster than the > admin staff can cancel the messages. It's inevitable really, as there are > far more spammers than there are list administrators. If someone is subscribed to a list/message board, places an ad, then usubs again, nothing will stop the ad going through. Certainly with regard to the lists, an admin can't delete or conceal any ad themselves. The only thing an admin can do in such a case is contact the Help-Desk to get said ad removed. The boards are slightly different in that I believe the admin can remove ads themselves. It's only when a non member of a list tries to place an ad that a list admin can discard it so that it doesn't get seen.

January 2008 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with K - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 February 2008 Jackson 1803 now NC>GA,USA selrod Jacobs Poland Toronto Pol>On,Can rkg70 Jacula 1905 1971 Zernica Wyzna, Polland> Nova Scotia>NY>NJ Believed to have arrived in early 1900 gunney76 Jakober 1700 now Russia>North Dakota Karl Jacober husband of Laisa Stock and father of Fredricka Jacober kong Jakubiszyn 1886 Pres Galicia/Poland-NY-Detroit/Wayne,MI Alanson Jalokoski 1945 now Laanni,Finland,CarbonCounty MT, USA my7304 Janowski Poland America Wisconsin fugm Jantz 1840 2008 Lansing, Michigan mlsraven Janzen 1800 1900 Russia>Canada peterfeh Jarmain 1820 2008 England to Canada darjub Jarrard 1760 1954 SC>WhiteCo GA, USA selrod Jarvis 1800 2008 Dartmouth England sheenaj Jarvis 1830 2008 N.B. Canada sheenaj Jarvis 1850 2008 Georgia USA sheenaj Jeal ----- -1868 Southwark, Surrey, ENG Valentine JEAL (bn c1836) son of Adolphus JEAL, gardener yreeds Jeffrey 1900 1999 TX Beanbag Jenkins 1691 1764 Sandwich, MA>North Kingstown,RI fultim5 Jenkins 1896 1992 TX Beanbag Jenny 1873 --- Detroit, Michigan Grandfather duna Jenny 1907 1963 San Francisco Mother duna Jensen 1828 1899 Nyeland, Denmark son of Jens Christensen ACO Jermann 1922 1926 Austria vry39 Jernigan 1600 now Escambia, AL robina1 Jernigan 1887 present SC tkkedgo Jess 1903 1982 Ohio>NY> Arizona azridges Johnson 1700 1825 Virginia moved to Kentucky Lyn44 Johnson 1740 2008 Charlotte Co, Va>MO>KS lclclclc Johnson 1745 ?>TN>VA>KY ksjdean Johnson 1770 1870 RI>Luzerne & Lackawana Counties,IL DJMiles Johnson 1820 present NC tgsuttle Johnson 1825 unknown Georgia, Alabama ggggFather bish48 Johnson 1866 1939 Georgia, Alabama, Denton Co., TX., Fort Cobb, Caddo Co., OK, gggFather, Wife: Robertson bish48 Johnson 1887 1953 Alabama, Denton Co. Tx., Caddo Co. OK., Dewey Co. OK., Kern Co., CA. ggFather, Wife: Tackett bish48 Johnson 1887 1975 Middlesbro,Eng>Mont.Quebec Came to Canada as a Home Child mrmuk Johnson 1910 1975 Caddo Co. OK. - Kern Co. Ca. gFather, Wife: Stinson bish48 Johnson 1932 now Kern Co. Ca. Father, Wife: Foster bish48 Johnson 1956 now Kern Co. Ca. daughter, Husband: Bishop bish48 Johnson TX CA USA emmes Johnston 1775 1850 ARG,SCT,Bow,Tallant m: Charles McArthur 1830 ptmcar Joiner 1889 2008 nebraska>massachusetts ljnestor Joines 1885 1945 Macon CoTN Nashville TN janjs Jones 1718 ?>NC>MD>VA>KY ksjdean Jones 1750 1850 North Carolina Kentucky Lyn44 Jones 1750 present wales>va rbl4evr Jones 1780 Present SC>Hancock County GA>?>Escambia County FL Ambrose/Lazarus Alpheus/George William ferrets4 Jones 1800 now FRANKLIN CO. TN GGRANDFATHER IS MATTHEW BENTON JONES bmsm Jones 1812 2006 Ga, Tn, Ar mHowe Jones 1823 1901 Janesville WI toni189 Jones 1850 now DEV,ENG>CA,USA Annie Louise Jones born abt 1888, Father William, Mother Nellie, born Barnstaple in North Devon jmwalthr Jones 1852 now OXF>ENG>NSW>AUS robynj Jones 1880 2007 Cedar Rapids>Chicago Dr. Robert Turner Jones captg Jones 1882 1985 Ohio. Summit County azridges Jordan 1764 Now GA>AL>TX>Indian Territory>TX Oldest Name: Charles Jordan III sleeping Jordan 1820 1870 Ireland>Liverpool England Barthomew Jordan father of Mary Wall[br 1840 Ire] and Alice Rice [br 1850 Ire] was dead by 1870 according to marriage record of Alice Jordan in Liverpool area KIRK4321 Jordan 1860 1901 Ire>Rawtenstall William Jordan listed on 1901Lancashire, census living with sister Mary Wall .He is listed as single and 40 yrs old . May have been br. in Kilkenny Ire or Dublin. Fathers name is Barthomew Jordan kirk4321 Jordan 1900 IN Birth Mother Margie E Jordan pnusbaum Joseph 1930 1960 Haiti>Florida>New York Looking for my grandfather Clisnes Joseph orisrb33 Joseph ms eddie 1920 ms toto102 Joyce 1872 1911 Leeds, ENG > Philadelphia PA joelynch Juan Flores Argentin Argentin ARG-ARG manolo19 Juan Flores Argentin Argentin ARG-ARG B 1688 manolo19 Jubenville 1650 2008 France,Canada, USA darjub Judd 1800 1900 England to New Zealand mcdooper Jude 1844 Barrington Cambridgeshire geb111 Jude 1844 London Pentonville Prison 1871 geb111 Jude 1863 Cambridgeshire geb111 Jude 1864 Cambridgeshire geb111 Judge 1827 1920 Ireland>Quebec,Canada Looking for info on Judge's who settled inthe St-Sylvestre QC,and what part if Ireland they my have migrated from. super6 Justice 1780 1908 TN,MS,AR duperbob See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

Hi everyone, My great aunt Nellie was actually Ellen. My mother was named after her but referred to as Ella to distinguish the two. I now have a granddaughter and her name is just 'Nellie' Anne "Charles Ellson" <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:dcjsq390asqvs4dhk3hcc2ia611on7jhao@4ax.com... > On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:10:27 +0000, Brad Rogers > <news@yoss1960.ukfsn.org> wrote: > >>On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:47:58 +0000, Temprance wrote: >> >>> Nellie and i'm wondering What the name Nellie could also be? Lizabeth? >> >>Eleanor, Ellen or Helen rather than (E)Lizabeth. > . > or Penelope.

I am using Family Tree Maker #9. I have two files I would like to make into one. How do I do this? Buster -- To be a Mason, as one.

blues517@hotmail.com wrote: > It utterly destroys the Theory of Evolution which bamboozled us for > many decades but actually was never more than the release of toxic gas > or the incredible featof a Smithsonian pseudoscientist searching for > answers looking without a flashlight).. The first fully formed scientific theory of evolution is credited to Jean-Baptiste Lamarck, 1744 - 1829. Since the Smithsonian Institute was founded in 1846, Lamarck couldn't possibly have been a member. Charles Darwin 1809 – 1882, famous for _The Origin of Species_ could have been a member, but I can't find any evidence that he was. I have to conclude, therefore, that it is blues517's posting which is the release of gas. Sean_Q_

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 23:10:27 +0000, Brad Rogers <news@yoss1960.ukfsn.org> wrote: >On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:47:58 +0000, Temprance wrote: > >> Nellie and i'm wondering What the name Nellie could also be? Lizabeth? > >Eleanor, Ellen or Helen rather than (E)Lizabeth. . or Penelope.

On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 22:47:58 +0000, Temprance wrote: > Nellie and i'm wondering What the name Nellie could also be? Lizabeth? Eleanor, Ellen or Helen rather than (E)Lizabeth. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)rad never immediately apparent" This disease is catching Into The Valley - Skids