In message <3mttj.1559$f8.574@newsfe23.lga> Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote: > > > Sherlock Holmes wrote: > > singhals wrote: > > > >> > >> The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of > >> Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710. > >> > >> Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of > >> 14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16? > >> > >> I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the > >> number of parish registers I need to look at. > >> > >> Cheryl > > > > Hi Cheryl, > > If X signed the will as a witness then X would be alive at the time of > > signing the will as a witness and could be alive long after the will was > > probated as X was a Witness and was not the person who the will was for > > as they are a witness to the person whom the will was for and that > > person would have signed the will as well. > > X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk. > > > > So do not Ass U Me anything. > > I think you misread what was written. Not that X was the signer of the > will, but that X was between the ages of 14 and old enough to be dead > when X witnessed the will. > The normal criteria is that the witness is old enough to understand what he/she is signing. In 1709 a 14 year old would have been regarded as virtually an adult. -- Graeme Wall My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>

January 2008 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with P - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 February 2008 Paarmann German New York MST,MEC,DEV 27 years old paarmann Paarmann Germany New York MST,MEC,DEV 2 years old paarmann Paarmann Germany- New York MST,MEC,DEV 30 years old paarmann Packham 1780 1850 SSX,ENG Barcombe etc. hmcdia Padgett 1800 1900 MD>VA>TN, USA Nancy Naylor Padgett m. Nathaniel Robertson TN streiff Paeglow 1820 now MEC,DEU>MI,USA Meckelenbug-Schwerin dlzube Paget 1828 now ENG, NRY Luigi007 Palaski 1900 Current Nowe Miatre,Poland>Pittsburgh John Pawlowski now Palaski kocinski Palmer 1700 now VA>IN>MO>KS>OK, USA Early spelling PALMORE streiff Palmer 1800 1860 VA>OH>IN>IA>IL Benjamin S. m. Sarah leafy1 Pannozzo 1790 2008 Campodimele->Fondi->USA Spelled in USA Pannozzi jimserac Paquette 1847 now CAN dlzube Parker 1840 2008 IL, TN, NE, CA, WA GF left after divorce in 1927, now lost, name; Frederick Nance Parker barb81 Parker 1850's 2008 Bury Lanarks England sheenaj Parr 1738 1887 RI.>VT.>NY.>WISC.> ruthistu Parsons 1800 2007 england not sure where born dove13au Partila 1876 now SVK>PA>CT Partilla Jaschr71 Partridge 1802 1857 USA/CAN Tammyaka Grammy2Malici06@aol.com TammyYou Parvin 1604 1969 Eng>Ire>PA, TX ncm Patrick 1765 1940 Hampshire kun71 Patsko 1780 now SVK>PA>NJ>CA>TX Derived from Packo, Patsko jaschr71 Patterson 1700 1850 Northern Ireland NC TN TX agneta Patton 1817 1943 TN>TX>AR olyswede Patton 1958 2008 St.Louis,MO,USA Rolla,Mo school teacher son went to school of minds MO ValHauck Paulus 1700's now PRU>Bavaria>Germany zenner Pavel 1562 1670 Evijarvi, Finland Mame3 Pavey 1600 2000 WHITCHURCH,HANTS,ENGLAND jimnorth Pawlowski 1850 Current Nowe Miatre,Poland>Chicago>Pittsburgh,PA Benedictus/Wawrzyn/Michaeli Pawlowski kocinski Paxton c1820 now unknown>BC,CAN Jock or John. May have been in Hat Creek, Ashcroft, Lillooet, Williams Lake, Chilcotin, Barkerville areas,BC,CAN. Celtish Payne 1800 1900 VA>TN, USA Resource "Paynes of Virginia" streiff Peacock 1600 now eng>pa dbdodson Pearson 1860 1990 none Florence Al al1942 Peden sct can from scotland to london ont to mi Joseph Billi60 Pember 1650 2007 Leominster>Worcestershire >canada Leominster Herefordshire pember11 Pendlebury 1850 2007 LANCASHIRE, ENGLAND, USA NEW YORK, WISCONSIN, IOWA dedann Penner 1800 1900 USSR>Canada peterfeh Penney 1750 1900 Dorset, Eng>KenoshaCo, WI>MitchellCo, IA William Ronald and Elizabeth Harding Hartnell left Owemoigne, Dorset, England in 1845 and went to Salem, Kenosha Co., Wisconsin. In 1856 they moved on to Mitchell Co., IA. shartnel Pepperell 1700 now Devon,UK>Sth Aust eirene42 Peres 1830 1950 France to Louisiana LaHunter Perres 1830 1950 France to Louisiana LaHunter Perry 1820 1912 Ky.>Tenn.>Mo. John and Sarah Perry guymowen Peters 1800 1900 USSR>Canada peterfeh Peters 1850 1934 Emmerlev Parish, Denmark son of Anna Peters & Nicolai Jensen ACO Peterson 1857 now SWE>Jamestown, Chautauqua co., NY, USA Rinna, Östergötlands aylapete Petronccione 1881 1954 Fontana Rosa, Avellino, Italy>IL,USA Marianna Luisa drmargis Petrovich 1867 ? Austria,Carbon County MT. USA my7304 Petterson 1900 Sweden > New Jersey > Scranton, PA > San Jose, CA Married to Ratchford/Costanza goat5 Petty 1812 2008 Halifax Co.VA>VA TracyESA Petty 1815 Now AL>TX MasonB Peugh 1860 1930 DecaturCo,TN>TX>CA,USA treetipp Phalen 1806 2007 Ireland>Cape Breton, joan4leo Phelip 1500 1600 pendoggett & Fanowe names philipp phillipp spelling changed after 1509 to phelip phellp philp potpan Phelps va ky in need family from england brownie3 Philip 1500 1600 pendoggett & Fanowe names philipp phillipp spelling changed after 1509 to phelip phellp philp potpan Phillips 1845 1936 GA,TX Looking for Lewis Phillips possibly the brother of Wiley Phillips African American carla46 Philllips 1775 1826 NY njb17 Picknell 1700 now SSX,ENG Cuckfield area then Brighton/Hove hmcdia Pierce 1748 2007 TN>MO,USA anr4914 Pierre 1750 1850 France to England Born in Paris, Arrived in England in early 1850's, had also been in Amsterdam. jaxk58 Pierson 1898 1960 VA>TN afreek Pietersma 1921 1999 NLD>AB,CAN>BC,CAN spouse of Gerarda de Koning pietersm Pietersma 1924 2005 NLD>AB,CAN>BC,CAN spouse of Jakob pietersma pietersm Pikul POL NY 1905 Malec, Radgoszcz mjnfl Pillsbury 1840 1880 VA ksewald Pinc 1872 1935 CSK>USA>IL>TX CZJ580 Pitman 1851 2007 England>ID,USA rgpvep Plaisted 1675 2008 ENG>NH>ME,USA cacijo Plantagenet 1239 1307 Of Westminster, Middlesex, MDX,ENG. (21 greats) grandfather of Ballygra. Edward aka "Longshanks". Edward's dau Elizabeth at 1282. Edward I Plantagenet King of England b.17 Jun 1239 > died 7 Jul 1307, son of Henry III Plantagenet King of England at 1206 & Eleanor De Provence at 1223. Ballygra Plantagenet 1244 1296 Of London, Middlesex, MDX,ENG. Edmund aka "Crouchback". Edmund is younger brother of Edward I King of England. Edmund's son Henry at 1281. Edmund b.16 Jan 1244/45 > died 5 Jun 1296, son of Henry III Plantagenet King of England and Elbeonore of Provence at 1217. Ballygra Plautz 1820 Unknown Zozenow,POM,PRU,DEU Ernestina, mother of Frederika Rusch meli73 Plogmann 1868 1961 DEU>OH,USA came to US 1858 Herman H. beckykay Podgarsky 1800 now RUS>NY, USA Looking for the descendents of Samuel (Simche) and Fanny (Freda) Podgorsky/ Podgarsky Andizeke Podgorsky 1800 now RUS>NY, USA Looking for the descendents of Samuel (Simche) and Fanny (Freda) Podgorsky/ Podgarsky Andizeke Poffenbarger 1888 now IN>OR kristin7 Pollack 1885 1890 Igls, Austria to USA Lived for 3 yrs other than IL kukuk Pollock 1800 now england,uk jjmundy Pope 1858 1910 TN>KY>AK>KY>TN Rudi56 Popp ----- now 23 Jul 1860 sgadacz Posey 1391 France>MD>TN?KY ksjdean Posey 1820 present IL>TN>WI tgsuttle Poteet 1800 1850 UnionCo,GA Blakin Potsko 1780 now SVK>PA>FL>WA>CO Derived from Packo, Patsko jaschr71 Potter 1800 2000 MO,USA anr4914 Potts 1900 2000 NYC to FL and elsewhere Ida, Bernard or Kate's families Lou0309 Pouliquen 1905 Normandy, France parisgal Poulson 1600's NOw Gnosall, Staffs Any areas in Staffs prior to 1880 edharris Poutre 1870 Canada poutre Power 1840 Now DUB,IRL>QLD,AUS James: lived at Rockhampton MJPower Power 1860 now IRL>QLD AUS>NSW AUS Edmund keely Powers 1875 1960 AR>OK graydog Prance 1865 CO>UT>ID Shra21 Pratt 1774 1855 Hampshire kun71 Prescott 848 now ENG>Lancaster,Concord MA USA Jonas Prescott, dir.des. King Alfred 889 AD ENG.(George W Bush internet genealogist: http://www.wargs.com/political/bush.html) Town Founder Lancaster, MA. tdelco Presley 1820 ?>TN>VA>KY ksjdean Presnell 1850 2006 McDowell County, NC dianeps Prete 1908 1988 italy>chicago don803 Price 1750 present england, north carolina,ky. mother's mother's family bubbajun Price 1800 VA>NC>GA>AL Robert Marion Price's family nova22 Prindle 1820 2000 Plattsburgh, NY>Winnebago County,IL>Smith County,KS>Benton&Lane County,OR DJMiles Prine 1824 1907 TN > MO > AR Looking for parent's grandbby Prior 1800 Now Co. Leitrim Peter Prior and Mary McPartlan were married Feb 1866 in Ballinamore. detblood Pritchet 1882 now MississippiCo, Ar,USA looking for any information woodsly Pro 1928 2008 Ecuador>US, NYC, ATL gregorio Proctor 1850 now Cleveland County>McDowell, NC dianeps Pruden 1800 2008 USA/CAN Tammyaka Grammy2Malici06@aol.com TammyYou Pruden 1927 2001 USA/CAN Tammyaka Grammy2Malici06@aol.com TammyYou Prugh 1700s now PRU,DEU>MD>ArmstrongCo,PA,USA eboonemd Pults 1823 1861 FentressCo,Tenn>TexasCo, Mo kekoenig Purnell 1700 Now GLS,ENG Berkeley, Stroud, North Nibley MJPower Purnell 1795 1871 GLS,ENG>NSW,AUS William: Convict per "Larkins" MJPower Pursglove 1634 Yorkshire ENG mo2qizoo Puthoff 1800 now Germany>Ohio dputhoff Putthoff 1800 now Germany>Ohio dputhoff Pyle 1890 1973 Liberty, NE rjpyle See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

> > >Sherlock Holmes wrote: >> singhals wrote: >>> The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of >>> Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710. >>> Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of >>> 14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16? >>> I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the >>> number of parish registers I need to look at. >>> Cheryl >> >On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:09:26 -0500, Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote: > Hi Cheryl, >> If X signed the will as a witness then X would be alive at the time of >> signing the will as a witness and could be alive long after the will was >> probated as X was a Witness and was not the person who the will was for >> as they are a witness to the person whom the will was for and that >> person would have signed the will as well. >> X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk. >> So do not Ass U Me anything. > On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 23:09:26 -0500, Huntersglenn <huntersglenn@cox.net> wrote: >I think you misread what was written. Not that X was the signer of the >will, but that X was between the ages of 14 and old enough to be dead >when X witnessed the will. >Cathy I think the point of the OP's question was: does X have to be 16 to witness a will? Or is 14 considered legally adequate for that purpose? She's obviously looking for records about X, she knows who X is, she obviously doesn't want to search an extra 2 years of parish records if she doesn't have to. Right, Cheryl?

Sherlock Holmes wrote: > singhals wrote: > >> >> The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of >> Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710. >> >> Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of >> 14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16? >> >> I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the >> number of parish registers I need to look at. >> >> Cheryl > > Hi Cheryl, > If X signed the will as a witness then X would be alive at the time of > signing the will as a witness and could be alive long after the will was > probated as X was a Witness and was not the person who the will was for > as they are a witness to the person whom the will was for and that > person would have signed the will as well. > X the witness to the will could have been the Law firms clerk. > > So do not Ass U Me anything. I think you misread what was written. Not that X was the signer of the will, but that X was between the ages of 14 and old enough to be dead when X witnessed the will. Cathy

The year is 1709. The place is the NA Colonies, Province of Maryland. X signs a will as witness; the estate is probated in 1710. Am I on safe ground if I assume that means X was between the ages of 14 and dead? Or did he have to be 16? I'm looking to establish a Born-Before date here to narrow down the number of parish registers I need to look at. Cheryl

I'd be very grateful if anyone who has a copy of "Colonial Families of Philadelphia" would turn to page 122 and post/email me what it says there about the Faulkner family. Thanks, Simon Morris

January 2008 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with O - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 February 2008 O'Brien ----- 1883 Ireland died in Cartersville GA happyh O'Brien 1695 now Noel Shore Nova Scotia Normamae O'Brien 1900 1966 NY, NJ USA Johanna clodep O'Connor 1801 now Ker,IRL>Leeds, ENG GG grandfather Daniel's family socm O'Connor 1850s 1932 Ontario,Canada father's paternal matrnl line laelmac O'Donnell 1830 1890 IRE>PA joelynch O'Doude 1800 1860 Cullinagh, Clare, Ireland > VIC,AUS Mary born c 1827, brother Michael born c 1828 towhelan O'Hara 1885 1936 PA>FL>? William Thomas O'Hara married Annie May Payne delohara O'Hara 1905 1970 FL?>PA>DE Thomas Milton O'Hara delohara O'Hare 1790 Now ARM,IRL>NSW,AUS Felix: The Oaks, Camden MJPower O'Leary 1880 Fulham, MDX,ENG joleary Oates 1900 1950 AL Birth date unknown Divebabe Ochoa 1850 Now Tubutama, Sonora, Mexico, Arizona Looking for brothers & sisters bucteeth Odom 1850 1988 McDowell County, NC dianeps Ohnmais 1880 1975 MO>IL>WA kristin7 Oksner 1907 now POL>NY>StLouisCo,MO,USA Bojas, Morris dorothyo Oldfin 1800s present Ireland,England, US,Canada father's paternal line laelmac Oleson 1860 1927 Oslo,Norway>Chicago>Lake Bluff,IL>Waukegan,IL Immigrated abt. 1862 after parents died when she was 5; married Hiram Miller meli73 Oliver 1840 1980 ON,CAN>MI naylor Olney 1780 1865 RI>CT>NY>OH>NY Chloe Olney, Married Noah Wood c.1800 geotuc Olson 1780 now FRANDEFORS, SWEDEN>IL>SASK,CANADA>IL,USA olyswede Ongley 1850 1930 ENG> NY, USA cbrw1001 Oosterman 1870 2008 nl.>aus helvi2 Ortiz Mex TX.AZ.CA 1900's Maria married Mariano Juarez deljmar Ortmann 1850 now Wagenfeld,HAN,DEU>Cincinnati,OH>Bloomington,IL,USA charhans Osborne 1723 ?>VA>KY ksjdean Oshner 1921 2000 :La Belle Missouri, Iowa, Idaho Mother's family axiom Ott 1800's now LA zenner Outcalt 1800 Now NY>...>IA>WA My branch (descendants of William H Outcalt, b abt 1819) has been "lost" for 100 years, when the kids were fostered/adopted out... MooreBra Owen 1804 Now Ohio>HardinCo.Ky.>Mo.USA John and Rhoda Owen guymowen Owen 1836 now CAE,WLS>Chicago, IL Caernarvonshire plocknar Oxford AR>TX CA USA emmes See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

Some names in Tree Collenberg, Ulbrich, Scheel, Lauritzen, Hoeck, Ryge, Tychsen Ferguson and Drummond. http://collenburg.blogspot.com/ http://ulbrich1.blogspot.com/ http://drummondferguson.blogspot.com/

Allen wrote: > Sounds like insufficient washing is the culprit, as commercial > processing tended to get a little bit sloppy in mid-century. Another > thing: I hope someone in your family looked to the future (now, that is) > and identified all the people. There usually are a few cousins, great > aunts, etc that are hard to give names to after a couple of generations > have gone by. One side of my family (my mother's side), took photos like > crazy and I have hundreds and hundreds of pictures of them, mostly > showing people relaxed and having fun; my father's side never got the > bug, so I have only two very small images of my paternal grandfather, > who died six years before I was born. Strangely, that gf owned the local > weekly newspaper, and when he died they ran a picture of him that was > blown up, grainy and fuzzy, from a snapshot. > Allen Several years ago I sat with my mother and went through each album and she identified who she could. The one who I do not have a picture of is my Grand Aunt. I never met her. My grandfather stopped talking to her around 1930 and he would never talk about it. My father did not know why either, nor did he know where she lived or who she married. I just recently learned both and that she lived 3 blocks from my grandfather in Bellerose, NY and pasted away 1 year after my grandfather. Just printed out some pics and they came out really well. Chris

In article <ntWdneL-K4m_kC7anZ2dnUVZ_q6mnZ2d@rcn.net>, singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: > R. Scanlon wrote: > > > > Does the liberal use of aliases suggest anything? Perhaps > > running away from home to join the service (he was born > > 1859, therefore 17 at the time, and yes, his name really is > > John Doe)? > > I don't know what happens to any of these between NARA and > Ancestry.com I've found these in the CSRs at NARA: > > (a) mis-reading of a badly written name -- i.e., can't tell > if it's a W or an M, so NARA wrote a card for both, each > referring to the other. > > (b) the company clerk couldn't decide how to spell the name, > so it's in the records as Malcom and Malcolm, both of which > get a card and a cross-ref. > > (c) the soldier's name was John Malcolm, he's in there as > John M, John Malcolm, and J Malcolm, each of which gets a > card and a cross-ref to the others. > > ONCE and ONLY ONCE, I saw a Wm turn into W. M. and from > there into William M. He wasn't _mine_ so I've no clue who > he thought he was. (g) > > > > Cheryl Thanks for the comments, Cheryl. Reminds me of the WWI draft card of Joseph Aloysius Kraatz indexed as Joseph Aloysiuskraatz.

In article <Y7idnV2oYujoXCzanZ2dnUVZ_rKtnZ2d@giganews.com>, "Tara" <NOtnlarkinSPAM@iparagon.net> wrote: > "R. Scanlon" <rscanlon@naisp.net> wrote in message > news:rscanlon-06C5C0.21385111022008@news.verizon.net... > <snip> > > What was "General Service"? (I couldn't cajole Google into > > giving me much useful) > > > > Probably depends on the context. I seem to recall seeing this used to > describe both job type and enlistment type. Could mean he had no special job > rating, kind of the equivalent of "foot soldier." Or it could mean a regular > enlistment, not anything like a commission or attached to a special > division. > > > What is a Navy I.O.? (Another Google miss here) > > > > Again, context. Could be Intelligence Officer, Issuing Officer, Intercept > Officer. > > > Does the liberal use of aliases suggest anything? Perhaps > > running away from home to join the service (he was born > > 1859, therefore 17 at the time, and yes, his name really is > > John Doe)? > > No clue on this one. It certainly suggests something was out of the ordinary > but it could be anything from running from the law to just enjoys lying. I > have a few ancestors that just seemed to enjoy messing with the authorities > when it comes to telling them personal info. Thanks, Tara. The period of General Service is distinct from the terms he served in two numbered regiments; it had been my experience up until now that a soldier was always associated with a regiment, but apparently that's not true. And also up until now I'd never seen cavalry, infantry, and naval service combined in one career. A propensity for lying doesn't seem inconsistent here, especially considering some of his behavior later on. I guess it's time to start ordering CMSRs and see what's to be seen.

"Terry" <terry75115@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:2824b9a9-78de-44ca-ad67-3b919d90313a@s37g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > I've done almost all the research I can do over the internet > (U.S.Census). > Now I think I need to do some research out of the home. > What are some areas I need to research next ? > > Where do I go to see Wills, Property taxes, etc? > I think that this is probably the best place for you to start. http://www.cyndislist.com/ There's a good section on getting started. BTW It's a good idea to help us to help you - specifying time period and geographical area make it much easier to give specific help. Good luck. Lesley Robertson

Allen wrote: > ChrisGW wrote: >> I have a lot of old photo albums from my parents. All at least 50+ >> years. Acid is starting to get to them and I would like to know if >> there is a solution that I can use to slow down the process? I have >> taken them off of the paper they were mounted on, but would like to do >> more if possible. >> >> Thanks >> Chris >> > I assume these are so-called "snapshots" and are black and white, not > studio photographs. If so, your problem may be more than the acid paper > in the albums. It might be (and probably is) caused by insufficient > washing at the end of the printing process. The last step in processing > b/w before final washing is "fixing" in a solution of sodium > thiosulfate. The fixing bath removes the part of the print emulsion that > was not processed by the developer (i. e., the parts that weren't fully > exposed), which would soon make the print useless if left in place. > Unfortunately, the thiosulfate that is left on the print will eventually > destroy the image; thus, a fairly long washing period is required as > the final step. If this is your problem, you can wash the prints in tap > water at normal room temperature for at least a half hour, changing the > water every five minutes. The downside of rewashing is that, if the > prints were glossy they are going to dry to a matte finish. Early > Polaroid prints right from the camera were especially known for fading, > but reprints made by Polaroid were, as far as my experience goes, very > stable. Now, if you are talking about _color_ prints, that is a > different issue that I can't help you with; perhaps someone else will > have advice about those. > > I don't know how many prints you have, but you really should investigate > getting them copied; if you have just a few, it would probably be > better to have them copied commercially, but for a large number you > might want to buy a good scanner and editing software for your computer. > If you take the DIY option, you could either make prints yourself or > have them printed by one of the many shops that do this sort of work; > places like Costco do pretty good work and would probably be cheaper and > longer lasting than printing at home. > > As you may have gathered,I've been in the same place you are in, but soe > of mine were around 100 years old. I hope that you can salvage as least > the most important images before it's too late. Good luck! > > Allen Thanks for your reply. I have about 500 pics and have been scanning them. The prints from 1900 to about 1935 are in great shape. The ones from the 1940's are going quickly. I really do not want to was them as you suggest, but I am going to take the really bad ones to a shop and have them copied. Thanks again Chris

ChrisGW wrote: > Allen wrote: >> ChrisGW wrote: >>> I have a lot of old photo albums from my parents. All at least 50+ >>> years. Acid is starting to get to them and I would like to know if >>> there is a solution that I can use to slow down the process? I have >>> taken them off of the paper they were mounted on, but would like to >>> do more if possible. >>> >>> Thanks >>> Chris >>> >> I assume these are so-called "snapshots" and are black and white, not >> studio photographs. If so, your problem may be more than the acid >> paper in the albums. It might be (and probably is) caused by >> insufficient washing at the end of the printing process. The last step >> in processing b/w before final washing is "fixing" in a solution of >> sodium thiosulfate. The fixing bath removes the part of the print >> emulsion that was not processed by the developer (i. e., the parts >> that weren't fully exposed), which would soon make the print useless >> if left in place. Unfortunately, the thiosulfate that is left on the >> print will eventually destroy the image; thus, a fairly long washing >> period is required as the final step. If this is your problem, you can >> wash the prints in tap water at normal room temperature for at least a >> half hour, changing the water every five minutes. The downside of >> rewashing is that, if the prints were glossy they are going to dry to >> a matte finish. Early Polaroid prints right from the camera were >> especially known for fading, but reprints made by Polaroid were, as >> far as my experience goes, very stable. Now, if you are talking about >> _color_ prints, that is a different issue that I can't help you with; >> perhaps someone else will have advice about those. >> >> I don't know how many prints you have, but you really should >> investigate getting them copied; if you have just a few, it would >> probably be better to have them copied commercially, but for a large >> number you might want to buy a good scanner and editing software for >> your computer. If you take the DIY option, you could either make >> prints yourself or have them printed by one of the many shops that do >> this sort of work; places like Costco do pretty good work and would >> probably be cheaper and longer lasting than printing at home. >> >> As you may have gathered,I've been in the same place you are in, but >> soe of mine were around 100 years old. I hope that you can salvage as >> least the most important images before it's too late. Good luck! >> >> Allen > Thanks for your reply. I have about 500 pics and have been scanning > them. The prints from 1900 to about 1935 are in great shape. The ones > from the 1940's are going quickly. I really do not want to was them as > you suggest, but I am going to take the really bad ones to a shop and > have them copied. > > Thanks again > > Chris Sounds like insufficient washing is the culprit, as commercial processing tended to get a little bit sloppy in mid-century. Another thing: I hope someone in your family looked to the future (now, that is) and identified all the people. There usually are a few cousins, great aunts, etc that are hard to give names to after a couple of generations have gone by. One side of my family (my mother's side), took photos like crazy and I have hundreds and hundreds of pictures of them, mostly showing people relaxed and having fun; my father's side never got the bug, so I have only two very small images of my paternal grandfather, who died six years before I was born. Strangely, that gf owned the local weekly newspaper, and when he died they ran a picture of him that was blown up, grainy and fuzzy, from a snapshot. Allen

Terry wrote: > I've done almost all the research I can do over the internet > (U.S.Census). > Now I think I need to do some research out of the home. > What are some areas I need to research next ? > > Where do I go to see Wills, Property taxes, etc? > > Thanks, > Terry in Texas In Texas, probated wills are kept by the County Clerk in the county where the will was probated. I don't know about property tax records, but property ownership records will be found in the same place. If any of this information is online, it was probably put there by someone researching the family before you. If you find what you are looking for, it would be very kind of you to post your results in one of the county or family pages that Cyndi's List will take you to. A caution: you might be surprised when you start tracking information down. One of my ggggrandfathers settled in Bastrop County, TX in 1848; he died in Burleson County (where his will is on file) in 1863; he is buried in Lee County. All three events were in the exact same geographic location: the border between Bastrop and Burleson was shifted sometime between 1848 and 1863, and around 1870 Lee County was carved out of portions of Bastrop and Burleson. This sort of shifting is quite common, as well as frustrating. Incidentally, where are you in Texas and what counties are you interested in? If you are in or near Austin the State Library, located on the Capitol grounds, has a very nice collection of genealogical information. Allen

ChrisGW wrote: > I have a lot of old photo albums from my parents. All at least 50+ > years. Acid is starting to get to them and I would like to know if there > is a solution that I can use to slow down the process? I have taken them > off of the paper they were mounted on, but would like to do more if > possible. > > Thanks > Chris > I assume these are so-called "snapshots" and are black and white, not studio photographs. If so, your problem may be more than the acid paper in the albums. It might be (and probably is) caused by insufficient washing at the end of the printing process. The last step in processing b/w before final washing is "fixing" in a solution of sodium thiosulfate. The fixing bath removes the part of the print emulsion that was not processed by the developer (i. e., the parts that weren't fully exposed), which would soon make the print useless if left in place. Unfortunately, the thiosulfate that is left on the print will eventually destroy the image; thus, a fairly long washing period is required as the final step. If this is your problem, you can wash the prints in tap water at normal room temperature for at least a half hour, changing the water every five minutes. The downside of rewashing is that, if the prints were glossy they are going to dry to a matte finish. Early Polaroid prints right from the camera were especially known for fading, but reprints made by Polaroid were, as far as my experience goes, very stable. Now, if you are talking about _color_ prints, that is a different issue that I can't help you with; perhaps someone else will have advice about those. I don't know how many prints you have, but you really should investigate getting them copied; if you have just a few, it would probably be better to have them copied commercially, but for a large number you might want to buy a good scanner and editing software for your computer. If you take the DIY option, you could either make prints yourself or have them printed by one of the many shops that do this sort of work; places like Costco do pretty good work and would probably be cheaper and longer lasting than printing at home. As you may have gathered,I've been in the same place you are in, but soe of mine were around 100 years old. I hope that you can salvage as least the most important images before it's too late. Good luck! Allen

I have a lot of old photo albums from my parents. All at least 50+ years. Acid is starting to get to them and I would like to know if there is a solution that I can use to slow down the process? I have taken them off of the paper they were mounted on, but would like to do more if possible. Thanks Chris

Jack wrote: > I am using both BK 5.2 and BK 6.1. Actually I did most of my work in > 5.2 and then got 6.1. All of my data is on one large file. Recently > I acquired a GEDCOM file from a relative that has information that I > don't have. We have 3-4 of the same people on our files but most of > the new file are people that I do not have. Is there some way I can > combine these two files without having to retype all of the data from > one of them into the other? Any help will be appreciated. Jack, I use BK also. I have in the past had the same situation here's what I have done 1) Import the GEDCOM file 2) Add the people who are the same in the GEDCOM to the proper parents in your file. 3) Now decide which of the duplicate people you are going to keep and copy any information (including children) from the one to be discard to the keeper one. 4) Then I change the name of the one to be discarded to Next male or Female and break the link to the parents. When I add a completely new person I reuse the Next Male and Female records. Before you do the merge you might want considering getting a copy of the program called GenMatch from Mudcreek and compare the GEDCOM with a GEDCOM of your file to identify all possible matches. Jim

Terry wrote: > I've done almost all the research I can do over the internet > (U.S.Census). > Now I think I need to do some research out of the home. > What are some areas I need to research next ? > > Where do I go to see Wills, Property taxes, etc? > > Thanks, > Terry in Texas Very basic, but since you don't mention it: is there a Mormon family history centre nearby? You can check online for whatever they have available (likely lots, if it's the U.S.), then view at the centre. http://www.familysearch.org/ Larry Van Wormer

Cyndi's list will give u resources for every state and a lot of county sites On 2/14/08, Terry <terry75115@yahoo.com> wrote: > > I've done almost all the research I can do over the internet > (U.S.Census). > Now I think I need to do some research out of the home. > What are some areas I need to research next ? > > Where do I go to see Wills, Property taxes, etc? > > Thanks, > Terry in Texas > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Proud member of IBSSG