April 2009 Update to RootsWeb Surname List New and Modified Surnames starting with M - To learn more about the RSL, including how to access the full RSL which has over a million surnames (these postings are only the NEW or CHANGED names). how to submit surnames, etc., visit http://rsl.rootsweb.com/ - Write directly to the submitter if you would like to exchange information. Entries are formatted as follows: Surname Date1 Date2 Migration Comments & Nametag Surname: The surname being researched Date1: The earliest date for which the submitter has information. Date2: The most recent date. Migration: Where people of this line lived during the period listed. Comments: Additional information (not always included) Nametag: What you need to actually contact the submitter. Abbreviations used in the migration are listed on this web page: http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/codes/ OK, so you see a surname listed below and want to share and compare with the person who submitted it. How do you find the submitter? It's not all that bad: to obtain the address info for the submitter whose nametag is "example" (just for example), go here: http://rsl.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/rslsql.cgi?op=user&user=example Reminder: the nametag is the last word on each line in the list below. ===================================== 1 May 2009 MacCharles 1800 1891 Nova Scotia, Canada Looking for parents of Margaret Jane MacCharles, born 1864, (m1) Kelley (m2) King gwen0638 MacGowan 1800 1860 Scotland, Saltcoats, Gorbals Peter, Mary, William, Jane AJMCG MacGowan 1800 1860 Scotland, Saltcoats, Gorbals Peter, Mary, William, Jane AJMCG Macey WIL,ENG NZL 1800 Gigi43 Mack 1834 2008 NY,USA wmcguibe Mackie 1888 2005 Scotland>OR William>Doris Jean zirek Mackiewicz 1851 2009 Kruszki, Przerosl, Poland Bronislawa Mackiewicz-missing cousin tellis Mackiewicz ca 1785 2009 Szurpily, Jeleniewo, Poland Pawel, Piotr, Jan, Katarzyna tellis Mackiewicz ca 1883 2009 Zywa Woda, Suwalski, Poland > Trenton, NJ Bronislaw/Bernard tellis Magruder 1750 2009 EdgecombeCo,NC>SC>GA>AL,USA fran8260 Maher 1900 now Aust>USA Looking for Thelma Cack Maher 1900 now Australia Looking for William John Maher Cack Maher 1933 now Australia Relatives of William Francis Maher Cack Makowski ca1763 2009 Czerwone Bagno, Jeleniewo, Poland Rozalia married Stanislaw Szeszko & Piotr Gliniecki tellis Malecki 1700 present unknown jeanzim Mandeville 1903 1978 Washington State Leo Winiford - Fort Wayne, Allen, Indiana, USA SCarlson Mandeville 1945 Now Washington State Last name now Carlson, Hannah Jane SCarlson Mangul 1832 1902 HK DEU>IN, USA CGbur Manlove 1691 1801 DE Sussex County, DE CaroleF Mannas 1900 1954 secunderabad,india mannas Mannheimer 1847 1965 WUE,DEU>IN, USA > NY ker32645 Manuel 1600 Newfoundland researching ancestors of Ernest Walter Manuel shaesyc Manuel 1843 1926 Trinity Bay,NFLD>ON,CAN Elizabeth married Ezekiel Norman lynward Manzoian 1860s now Keserig,Harput,TUR>Worcester,MA>Providence,RI,USA LMG85 Marche 1835 now ELS-LOT,FRA>IN>AR,USA Katharina Marche married Leopold Strobel Harvick Marizette 1800 present MS>CA mssmith Marriott 1797 2009 ENG>IL Edwards Co. deltams Marriott 1797 2009 ENG>IL Edwards Co; White Co, Browns IL deltams Marsee 1807 1968 KY>MO mike495 Marshall ----- 1890 LND, ENG>Vic, AUS menzies Marshall 1900 Franklin Co, KY Looking for Charles Wesley Marshall, married Lucy Woods or Lucy Lewis mcgrapth Martin ----- 1896 CON, ENG>Vic, AUS menzies Martin 1700 now WV Charles and Christina Martin BrandiJ Martin 1700 now WV James Ernest Martin BrandiJ Martin 1800 1965 Arkansas,Oklahoma>California jdsl Martin 1812 1879 CON, ENG>Vic, AUS menzies Martin 1812 1930 PatrickCo,VA>HenryCo,VA sister3 Martin 1850 now AL>WoodCo,TX,USA gannon66 Martin 1859 now Kilmuir,Skye,Scotland Myles f.Wm.m.Mary McLeod watt5 Martin 1875 1944 Frye,Vic, AUS>CBY, NZ menzies Martine 1900 present unknown jeanzim Martinez 1600 now PR,USA>NJ,USA oliverj Mason ----- 1864 SFK, ENG menzies Mason 1730 Present SC>VA>ALA>TX Immigrant John Mason lmclean Masson 1796 2009 ABD. Scotland. UK missrose Materia 1853 2009 Messina, Barcellona Pozzo di Gotto>NY Italy pout1 Mathews 1849 asterton nickleby Matteo 1780 1885 ITA Ceppagna/Venafro Italy CaroleF Mayberry 1800 1900 ME>New Brunswick Canada>MA Jacob MAYBERRY, born 1809-1812 Maine, father of William Maybury b. 1862 NB Canada, father of Frederick MAYBERRY b. 1891 MA. gwen0638 Maybury 1800 1900 ME>New Brunswick, Canada Jacob MAYBERRY, born 1809-1812 Maine, father of William Maybury b. 1862 NB Canada, father of Frederick MAYBERRY b. 1891 MA. gwen0638 Mazurek 1860 1910 Vsyny Lapse, Czech>PA, USA LauraMT Mazzuca 1860 1910 Rende, Italy>IL, USA LauraMT McAllister 1775 1901 Limerick Ire>N Y>USA Henry McAllister d 1904 vrygda2 McArthur 1865 now Islay Argl.,Greenock Scotl. B.McArthur,later Campbell watt5 McCaa 1830 now SC>LA,USA oliverj McCabe 1800 1880 IRL>NJ,USA Bloomfield, Essex Co., NJ Edward m.Annie 1865 emmkaay McCabe 1866 1920 NJ, USA>NY, USA Mary Ann b.1866 Essex Co. NJ emmkaay McCabe 1868 1920 NJ, USA>NY, USA Edward b. 1868 Essex Co. NJ emmkaay McCabe 1870 1920 NJ, USA>NY, USA John b. 1870 Essex Co. NJ emmkaay McCallig 1870 1920 DON,IRE>NJ>NY culchie McCartier 1900 2000 NZ mnevala McClain 1831 2009 MO searching for parents of Sarilda Jane b1831 d1898 bevray McCleery 1800 1850 TYR,NIR mnevala McCollum 1800 1999 Germany Angel64 McColpin 1765 1846 SC his children pdoss01 McColpin 1800 1855 KY Father's first name pdoss01 McCoy 1818 now IRE>Boston,MA,USA westie McCready 1915 now MN>CA,USA valeriem McCreary 1848 2009 MO searching for parents of Philander D1912 Rush Tower, JeffersonCo, MO bevray McCue 1890 1930 IRL>NY dkbecker McCutcheon 1800 now TYR,NIR mnevala McDonald 1600 1838 Isle of Skye> Canberra Aust polkies McDonald 1811 now ire>ontario, canada maryb2 McElroy 1776 1870 IRE>PA,USA Westmoreland Co. bkgenea McFarland Any Any Northern Arkansas Mountain Home Area?3 wdunavin McGarr 1800 2009 AR>TX>OK,USA smeyers McGeary 1745 now IRE>PA,USA Westmoreland Co bkgenea McGhie 1880 1951 SCOT>AB,CAN>ON,CAN jberkman McGibbon 1900 1970 glasgow mannas McGowan 1800 1860 Scotland, Saltcoats, Gorbals Peter, Mary, William, Jane AJMCG McGowan 1800 1860 Scotland, Saltcoats, Gorbals Peter, Mary, William, Jane AJMCG McGrath 1860 Woodford Co,KY>Frankfort,KY Name eventually changed to McGrapth but often misspelled. mcgrapth McGuire 1799 now Ballard,Wicklow, Ireland>camden twp, ontario, canada married Fox maryb2 McGuire 1850 1930 Ireland North Carolinaor Georgia anjtlc McHogan Scotland New York Pueblo, Colo. jayswf McIntosh 1600 1850 County Derry Ire>Lochee Scot>Yackandandah Aust polkies McIntosh 1839 1918 Breathitt Co,KY,USA taraknap McIntyre 1850 1927 IRL>PA CaroleF McKay Australi Fiji New Zealand shalaj McKenna 1800 now IRE>CAN>MI>AZ>CA redwoods McKenzie 1750 2009 MooreCo,NC>GA>AL,USA fran8260 McKeown 1811 now Ireland>Camden, Ontario, Canada maryb2 McKinnon 1900 1950 glasgow mannas McKnight 1781 1859 PA.USA Rebecca, wife of Henry Crider bkgenea McLachlan 1901 Now Bridgeton, Lanarkshire, Scotland, to Ontario, Canada, to Dayton, Ohio NeenaDep McLaughlin 1780 1837 PA.USA Westmoreland Co, Wm; George bkgenea McLaughlin 1822 now Ireland>Camden, Ontario, Canada maryb2 McLean 1780 Present Scotland>Carolinas>GA>ALA>MS>TX>LA Most settled in LA lmclean McMillan 1600 1900 Ireland>Glasgow>Melbourne Aust polkies McMillan 1750 1880 SCT AYR LKS Kilmarnock to Glasgow davidmcm McMillan 1880 1950 SCT LKS Govan, Kinning Park, Plantation davidmcm McMillin 1800 2009 WestmorelandCo,PA>IA,USA RAMgent McMurtry 1665 1826 SCT>PA>VA>NC, USA ker32645 McNamme 1850 1902 unk spoonie McPherson 1800s present OH nakmcp McRoberts 1775 1854 PA,USA Allegheny Co; Susannah bkgenea McVarry 1851 1920 Ireland>Philadelphia, PA crford Meade 1920 2004 NAS,TN>FLA DaisyT Meagher 1818 now Tipperary, Ireland>Napanee, Ontario, Canada maryb2 Mecklenburg 1770 1900 Heydekrug/Memel,Ostpreussen SCHüTZ-SCHMIDT kin, Laugallen wgs Mehal 1855 1917 Austria mmehall Meklenburg 1770 1900 Heydekrug/Memel,Ostpreussen SCHüTZ-SCHMIDT kin, Laugallen wgs Melton 1800 1980 ANNISTON, ALABAMA>OHIO JOHN HENRY, MARRIED MATTIE DEE3973 Menagh 1870 1925 TYR,NIR>NY culchie Methven 1865 Fife, Scot Helen bdall Metz 1835 present Blankenloch, DEU>Erie Co.,NY descendants of Johannes/Eva Catarina Lang Metz sbmerk Meyer 1846 now DEU>DodgeCo,NE,USA [email protected] hhwagner Meyers 1800 2009 TN>MI>OH,USA smeyers Mignier dit Lagace 1620 France to New France Yearley Miller 1800 1930 Missouri to Oregon jcsaturn Miller 1839 1913 Medelsheim/Bavaria/Germany Gersheim, W Germany to Ohio JoanieK Millet 1800 present unknown jeanzim Milroy 1780 1880 SCT WIG Stoneykirk, Stranraer davidmcm Milzner 1771 1903 AUT>NY, USA ker32645 Ming 1934 DuvalCo,FL>CalhounCo,FL>DC,USA FMING Misiukiewicz ca 1725 2009 Szurpily, Jeleniewo Anna married Siejwa, Michal tellis Mizzell 1600 now france/england have very little info Kpelli Molineaux 1900 2009 Aus-NZ Aussie-Maori links Maori1s Monbeck 1920ish present Dayton/Beavercreek, OH type area Hartman merged with monbeck JMatTech Monroe 1800 2009 North Carolina fran8260 Moore 1800 Unknown ENG spoonie Moore 1835 1900 IRE>Calais,ME>Boston,MA,USA westie Moore 1870 1900's SC>TX Adella Moore spouse toThomas S. Hood, born Washington Co. TX 1846 iallen Moran 1800 1965 IRL>MD>WV, USA ker32645 Morgan ----- 1934 ms>la cindim Morgan 1650 1897 WLS>VA>KY>IN, USA ker32645 Morgan 1772 1848 westspringfield,ma>ms>la cindim Morgan 1813 1880 ms>la>ka cindim Morgan 1905 1974 ms>la cindim Morgan 1944 present la cindim Morris 1851 1900 CA Indian modoc Morrison 1800 2009 North Carolina fran8260 Morrow 1800 current US JLElsdon Mottershead 1600 1880 Macclesfield Cheshire>Sydney Aust polkies Moyes 1901 Now Cambuslang,Lanarkshire County, Scotland to Ontatio, Canada to Dayton, Ohio NeenaDep Mucela 1830 1884 Kobylanka,POL>Polna,POL>Gromnik,POL rslowik Mueller 1860? ? Luykens, Dauphin, PA>WI married to Charles Hall ( my Ggrandfather) moirat Mullen 1800 1834 Ireland to Queensland Australia codibeam Mullen 1830 now IRE>ON,CAN John & Thomas Richard are common family names lynward Mulvey 1700 1900 ENG Joseph, Mary Jane SPlumb Munden 1806 now HA>KT,ENG>ON,CAN Alice and Emma came to Canada in 1901, where Emma married John Mullen lynward Murphy 1800 now IRE>Washington Cty,>Machias,ME,USA westie Murphy Any Any Ohio / Indiana / Illinois / Missouri wdunavin Musselman 1887 1941 Wilson,KS>California aseidule Myatt 1803 1930 ENG>IA,USA RAMgent Myers 1887 >CA,USA BloomN78 Mylrea 1850 1920 Manchester>Lanc Also researching Turner Podmore Williams Nuttall Jackson mstone1 See directions at the top of this message for information on how to retrieve the submitters' contact information.

I use Rootsweb and I have elected not to show living people. I also do not allow downloads of my file. My tree started with every family that lived in my small community when I was growing up and its tentacles now reach out pretty far into surrounding communities through marriages over the generations. I have been contacted by several people, all a generation or two younger than I am, who have found relatives in my tree (and were ecstatic to do so!) and that was my reason for publishing it. My most recent contact was about a month ago. I was contacted by someone who found her grandmother in my tree. "Grandma" was probably 10+ years older than I, but I remember her well from when I was a kid. I put the young lady in touch with her grandma's first cousin, my telephone buddy who grew up with me. This young lady and her sister are thrilled since I gave them an actual, living, cousin they could telephone and ask questions. Someone who knew both their great-grandfather and great-great-grandmother well. I encouraged them to call her since I know she's the one with the family stories, because she has told me so. One sister has telephoned. Every time someone just getting started in genealogy finds my "stuff" it makes the sharing worthwhile.

Steve Hayes wrote: <snip> > Aye, but it's always easier to find a moral than a solution. <snip> Except for Members of Parliament, who can't find either - or any sense of ethics apparently. Chris

Ian Goddard wrote: > James W Anderson wrote: >> If your site has information on how to find records in a particular >> locality, consider adding to or authoring a new page on that locality >> in the FamilySearch Wiki. > > I don't have a site. > >> The user/community meeting is every Tuesday afternoon, > > Your afternoon, my afternoon or Australia's afternoon? Of course Vladivostok's afternoon. Isn't that clear from all previous?? Richard -- Richard van Schaik [email protected] http://www.fmavanschaik.nl/ Mail address changed repair to this on my site is being worked on

I forgot the actual time for the FamilySearch Wiki community group meeting. It's at 2pm Mountain in the US. -0600 from GMT right now since we are on Daylight time here for the summer. Sorry about the omission earlier.

On Thu, 14 May 2009 12:38:49 -0400, Michael Kenefick <[email protected]> wrote: >John are you offering to take all of us golfing with you? 8>) Sorry, but no. I don't golf - my hobby money goes into family research, photography, wood working, and chocolate ;-) > >[email protected] wrote: >....... >> >> TribalPages offers limited family tree web hosting for free (GEDCOM >> upload, 50 pictures, ad-based) or more space and features for $$ >> http://www.tribalpages.com/pricing.html >> >> You can get your own domain for about $10/year (check prices at >> http://www.godaddy.com and web hosting for about $24/year >> (http://www.qualityhostonline.com ). The less expensive hosting is >> usually on a Linux server with PHP, so things like PHPGedView will >> work. >> >> My big expenditure on genealogy is a subscription to ancestry.com. >> However, family tree research is still one of the cheapest hobbies >> around - compare $155/year for ancestry to $30-$50+ for one round of >> golf (plus cart rental if you don't walk). >> >> John

James W Anderson wrote: > If your site has information on how to find records in a particular > locality, consider adding to or authoring a new page on that locality > in the FamilySearch Wiki. I don't have a site. > The user/community meeting is every Tuesday afternoon, Your afternoon, my afternoon or Australia's afternoon? -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk

On 14 May 2009 04:02:52 GMT, [email protected] (Brendan R. Wehrung) wrote: >If you try to log onto GeoCites you'll see Yahoo's notice that you can't >join any more and the service will be shut down later this year. > >As the home of many geneology projects, losing free GeoCities is a blow. > >Can anybody suggest another free web-hosting service that is likely to be >around for a while? Yes, I will mourn the loss of Geocities. It's been around for a long time and a lot of genealogical and historical information will vanish, never to be seen again -- of course it happens every time a genealogist dies and the family is not interested and throw all the research into the trash, but this will be a whole lot disappearing at once, like in a tsunami. For more info about the Geocities closure and its implications see here: http://methodius.blogspot.com/2009/05/goodbye-geocities.html It's something genealogists, historians and others should be talking about -- will it be possible to rescue anything? There are several other free webhosting sites, but they may suffer the same problem. Times are tough, and people have less disposable income than they used to. Genealogical research will be going on to the back burner, and people will be asking whether they can afford subscriptions to genealogical societies, or whether they can afford to make that research trip, whether they can afford the subscription to ancestry.com (I've never been able to afford it, so that doesn't affect me). A relation of ours lost all her genealogy and family histor information when AOL did something similar a few months ago -- she wasn't computer savvy enough to save it or move it to another host. And if you move it to another host the same thing might happen there soon anyway. -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesfam.bravehost.com/famhist1.htm http://www.geocities.com/Athens/7783/

"Brendan R. Wehrung" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected] > If you try to log onto GeoCites you'll see Yahoo's notice that you can't > join any more and the service will be shut down later this year. > > As the home of many geneology projects, losing free GeoCities is a blow. However, geocities has done more damage than good with all its OTHER users that redirect to porn sites. > Can anybody suggest another free web-hosting service that is likely to be > around for a while? How about your own ISP?

Steve Hayes wrote: > On 14 May 2009 04:02:52 GMT, [email protected] (Brendan R. Wehrung) > wrote: > >> If you try to log onto GeoCites you'll see Yahoo's notice that you can't >> join any more and the service will be shut down later this year. >> >> As the home of many geneology projects, losing free GeoCities is a blow. >> >> Can anybody suggest another free web-hosting service that is likely to be >> around for a while? > > Yes, I will mourn the loss of Geocities. It's been around for a long time and > a lot of genealogical and historical information will vanish, never to be seen > again -- of course it happens every time a genealogist dies and the family is > not interested and throw all the research into the trash, but this will be a > whole lot disappearing at once, like in a tsunami. > > For more info about the Geocities closure and its implications see here: > > http://methodius.blogspot.com/2009/05/goodbye-geocities.html > > It's something genealogists, historians and others should be talking about -- > will it be possible to rescue anything? > > There are several other free webhosting sites, but they may suffer the same > problem. Times are tough, and people have less disposable income than they > used to. Genealogical research will be going on to the back burner, and people > will be asking whether they can afford subscriptions to genealogical > societies, or whether they can afford to make that research trip, whether they > can afford the subscription to ancestry.com (I've never been able to afford > it, so that doesn't affect me). > > A relation of ours lost all her genealogy and family histor information when > AOL did something similar a few months ago -- she wasn't computer savvy enough > to save it or move it to another host. And if you move it to another host the > same thing might happen there soon anyway. www.archive.org might be one recovery route providing the site wasn't blocked. But the moral of this "don't put all your eggs in one basket". -- Ian Hotmail is for spammers. Real mail address is igoddard at nildram co uk

John are you offering to take all of us golfing with you? 8>) [email protected] wrote: ....... > > TribalPages offers limited family tree web hosting for free (GEDCOM > upload, 50 pictures, ad-based) or more space and features for $$ > http://www.tribalpages.com/pricing.html > > You can get your own domain for about $10/year (check prices at > http://www.godaddy.com and web hosting for about $24/year > (http://www.qualityhostonline.com ). The less expensive hosting is > usually on a Linux server with PHP, so things like PHPGedView will > work. > > My big expenditure on genealogy is a subscription to ancestry.com. > However, family tree research is still one of the cheapest hobbies > around - compare $155/year for ancestry to $30-$50+ for one round of > golf (plus cart rental if you don't walk). > > John

On 14 May 2009 04:02:52 GMT, [email protected] (Brendan R. Wehrung) wrote: >If you try to log onto GeoCites you'll see Yahoo's notice that you can't >join any more and the service will be shut down later this year. > >As the home of many geneology projects, losing free GeoCities is a blow. > >Can anybody suggest another free web-hosting service that is likely to be >around for a while? > >Brendan TribalPages offers limited family tree web hosting for free (GEDCOM upload, 50 pictures, ad-based) or more space and features for $$ http://www.tribalpages.com/pricing.html You can get your own domain for about $10/year (check prices at http://www.godaddy.com and web hosting for about $24/year (http://www.qualityhostonline.com ). The less expensive hosting is usually on a Linux server with PHP, so things like PHPGedView will work. My big expenditure on genealogy is a subscription to ancestry.com. However, family tree research is still one of the cheapest hobbies around - compare $155/year for ancestry to $30-$50+ for one round of golf (plus cart rental if you don't walk). John

Steve Hayes wrote: > On 14 May 2009 04:02:52 GMT, [email protected] (Brendan R. Wehrung) > wrote: > >> If you try to log onto GeoCites you'll see Yahoo's notice that you can't >> join any more and the service will be shut down later this year. >> >> As the home of many geneology projects, losing free GeoCities is a blow. >> >> Can anybody suggest another free web-hosting service that is likely to be >> around for a while? > > Yes, I will mourn the loss of Geocities. It's been around for a long time and > a lot of genealogical and historical information will vanish, never to be seen > again -- of course it happens every time a genealogist dies and the family is > not interested and throw all the research into the trash, but this will be a > whole lot disappearing at once, like in a tsunami. > > For more info about the Geocities closure and its implications see here: > > http://methodius.blogspot.com/2009/05/goodbye-geocities.html > > It's something genealogists, historians and others should be talking about -- > will it be possible to rescue anything? > > There are several other free webhosting sites, but they may suffer the same > problem. Times are tough, and people have less disposable income than they > used to. Genealogical research will be going on to the back burner, and people > will be asking whether they can afford subscriptions to genealogical > societies, or whether they can afford to make that research trip, whether they > can afford the subscription to ancestry.com (I've never been able to afford > it, so that doesn't affect me). > > A relation of ours lost all her genealogy and family histor information when > AOL did something similar a few months ago -- she wasn't computer savvy enough > to save it or move it to another host. And if you move it to another host the > same thing might happen there soon anyway. > > > > Although this refers to a 'free' hosting site the same is true of any site. The lesson to learn is *never* rely on a host site to keep your valuable research data, always keep a copy of data you have safetly on your own computer with secure backups in both removable media form and a hard copy on paper etc which in the worst case would enable you to recreate from scratch. Remember local copies in at least 2 locations offers more security should some disaster completely destroy one of those locations. My sister & I both keep copies of our mutual and individual data, she in Northamptonshire, UK & I in Florida, USA.

On Thursday 14 May 2009 10:50, Betti Cogswell ([email protected]) opined: > I understand the problems with an open page, but isnt it possible to > open a page that you can only invite family to? to allow only family on > and post the genealogy there? flickr allows for that, as does facebook, > in that you only allow certain ppl access to that page. and the owner > of the page can deny access to anyone they want cant they/ just a > thought or a personal web site that you build and put up and send only to > family members? > there has got to be a way other than any like ancestor that allows anyone > > [email protected] wrote: > >> >>In a message dated 5/13/2009 9:00:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>[email protected] writes: >> >>I use >>geocities.com, since bought by yahoo >> >> >>I went to the site and got a message that new accounts are no longer >>available. >> >> > > -- > Betti [chinmom] > home.comcast.net/~chinmom It's quite possible - I won't say easy - to host your own genealogy web-site using phpGedView (pGV) or TNG (The Next Generation) +apache+MySql. Self-hosting allows you complete control over content, for one thing, and access for another. Since all the software - with the exception of TNG, which is modestly priced share-ware - is free, the major investment is time: time to learn the software, time to set it up, time to maintain it. While I do this - and have done it for about 8 years, more or less - on a Unix-like system (not Linux!), it's perfectly possible to do so on a windows or Linux machine. Both pGV and TNG take a standard gedcom and use that to provide dynamic views of your data. As a result, what's displayed is always up-to-date, unlike statically created web-pages. Moving up the scale a bit, there are hosting providers who provide the pGV or TNG environment for a modest monthly cost, leaving it to you to maintain the genealogy data and to control access through the applications' built-in controls. Here, though, the problem is similar to that faced by current GeoCities users - what happens if/when the provider pulls the plug? Also available is GeneWeb. The major difference between it and either pGV or TNG is that it's its own webserver and database. It, too, provides a dynamic view of your data but is a bit more difficult to maintain and is much weaker WRT access controls/security. I won't sit here and claim that pGV, TNG or GeneWeb is appropriate for everybody - only you can make that determination. What I will say is that if you're willing to take the time to read and follow the instructions, each is relatively easy to set up, learn and use and MAY be the answer to your sharing problems. You can google each for further information. Dick Eastman has reviewed all three at one time or another and I encourage you to read those reviews at http://www.eogn.com Self-hosting Ol' Bob -- Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas ----- A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have. Thomas Jefferson

If your site has information on how to find records in a particular locality, consider adding to or authoring a new page on that locality in the FamilySearch Wiki. FamilySearch isn't going anywhere. In fact, they are growing significantly, with things like Record Search, the Wiki, which I believe will be as large if not larger than Wikipedia when all is said and done, a 'common pedigree' family tree product that will be free over the web, and several other things we have not seen quite yet. The wiki is at http://wiki.familysearch.org/ and you can attend the community meeting from home. There has actually been a little discussion on how to best incorporate some of the things that USGenweb and others who have relied on GeoCities and other free hoster sites for space have used. Some have gone down and the links don't work anymore, such as old xoom.com links on some abandoned websites and old forum posts. The user/community meeting is every Tuesday afternoon, it lasts an hour, and you can attend via teleconference with a screen on your computer and a phone-bridge (call is free, you might otherwise only use minutes if you use a wireless line). To find the page, go to http://wiki.familysearch.org/ and look for 'community meeting' in the right-side navbar and click on that, you'll see a general page. Anyone can add an agenda item. You must be registered to edit any page, but that's free too. Don't be shy, if all you can do is listen the first time or two, that's OK, just chime in when you have something to say about whatever is being discussed or you need to ask questions or bring new items up. We also have discussion forums, just look for 'Forums' on the navbar also, below where you would find the community meeting link. There are specific regional forums, wiki support forums, and indexing support forums as well, all are welcome there too. You can register there to to have full access to all forums, and from there you're all set.

I understand the problems with an open page, but isnt it possible to open a page that you can only invite family to? to allow only family on and post the genealogy there? flickr allows for that, as does facebook, in that you only allow certain ppl access to that page. and the owner of the page can deny access to anyone they want cant they/ just a thought or a personal web site that you build and put up and send only to family members? there has got to be a way other than any like ancestor that allows anyone [email protected] wrote: > >In a message dated 5/13/2009 9:00:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: > >I use >geocities.com, since bought by yahoo > > >I went to the site and got a message that new accounts are no longer >available. > > -- Betti [chinmom] home.comcast.net/~chinmom

On Wed, 13 May 2009 12:21:44 -0700, Vic Smith wrote: > This is nearly complete with a total of almost 1000 individuals, and > goes back to 1607 on one leg of the tree. I'm thinking this could be > useful to others. It could be but you could easily find the family tree you've uploaded is taken and appended to someone else's tree when there is no actual relationship between the two. I read many grumbles about that happening, simply because there's an entry in the hijacked one that is the same as one in the hijacker's tree "so they must be the same person". > I would like to make this available on the web, but I note there are > many sites that solicit uploads. Does anyone have an idea of which > site may be the most comprehensive or what criteria I should use to > choose a site? Have a look at Tribalpages. You can make the information open to all, or closed so that anyone wanting information has to ask to view it. > Also, I have been reading about not publishing data on individuals who > are still living. Is this a problem I should address in some way? Yes, it is. There'll be people in your tree who are unaware they are and may well object very strongly to being included and having their personal information broadcast to the world. Even those who are aware, may not want their details broadcast. You may find some members of a family unit don't mind whilst others object, so the best way to deal with it is to employ the 100 year rule, ie nothing after 1909 or use a cut off date of the First World War which is my cut off point. Respect people's privacy and they're more likely to help you. If you don't, they're more likely to be hostile and antagonistic and demand you take "their" family off the net. -- http://home.comcast.net/~webact1/Collingridge/

Brendan R. Wehrung wrote: >If you try to log onto GeoCites you'll see Yahoo's notice that you can't >join any more and the service will be shut down later this year.[...] >Can anybody suggest another free web-hosting service that is likely to be >around for a while? http://www.google.com/sites/help/intl/en/overview.html (maybe; I haven't tried it yet)

In a message dated 5/13/2009 9:00:44 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I use geocities.com, since bought by yahoo I went to the site and got a message that new accounts are no longer available.

One would think they would have sent some kind of message to the page creators! I noticed they did not put a date on the page link below saying what year they are going away? But a google of the info shows the announcement was released April 23, 2009. Could explains why on three different computers I have tree different page counts! I see another thread is saying google has free sites. I may have to try them. Mike in Ohio [email protected] wrote: > Best check out this Yahoo page- GeoCities is closing. > > http://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/geocities/geocities-05.html