On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:17:35 -0600, CWatters <Colin.Watters@DELETEMEturnersoak.plus.com> wrote: >Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote in >> It looks as though we will need to order the other two marriage >> certificates, as well as Mary Nevard Morton? birth certificate to see >> what happened. >Couldn't see any obvious way to sort that lot out otherwise. Yes, we've now ordered the certificates, but will also order the microfilm of the St Botolph's marriages, to see if it was a mass wedding with Essex girls, like the one that took place on board ship. >Might be of interest if you don't already have.. > >http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/placeC/essexc14g.html > >White's Directory of Essex 1848 - list of inhabitants >Gardeners, Seedsmen, etc. >George Morten >James Morton >William Morten Thanks very much , that was useful. Also www.historicaldirectories.org. Thanks too for the census entries. Actually findinng George Morton in the 1851 census makes it possible to link him to to a George Morton in the IGI, a record we've had knocking around for 30 years or so -- three chirlden of a George and Alice Morton or Morten - George, Mary Mount and Thomas, baptised in 1806, 1808 and 1810 respectively. There was no way of linking those to our George until we found him in the census. And since then, using FreeBMD and the 1881 census, I've managed to follow up some of the children, with interesting family names cropping up again - Hedley, for example. -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
rootsweb.com is a start. Google the surnames you are seeking and +genealogy Check your library. They may have heritagequest and ancestry available via your library card. In my system, I can access HQ from home. I have to be in the library to get Ancestry. On 12/03/2010 01:15 PM, Cellibriel wrote: > Could someone help me out with a list of good free genealogy websites? I > am tired of having to pay per month for information. Thanks in advance. > > Brian > www.genealogytrackers.net > cellibriel@gmail.com
On 02/12/2010 13:20, Steve Hayes wrote: > And get this: on the same index page as Mary Nevard Morton’s marriage to > August Decker, TWO Emmas married a George David Julius Casdorff — Emma Morton > and Emma Rodwell. Not two Emmas, one Emma with 2 names. You often see that where the woman had been married before or possibly where she was born with one surname but habitually used that of her step-father. -- Jenny M Benson
On 12/03/2010 01:15 PM, Cellibriel wrote: > Could someone help me out with a list of good free genealogy websites? I > am tired of having to pay per month for information. Thanks in advance. > > Brian > www.genealogytrackers.net > cellibriel@gmail.com So you expect others to donate research and time and effort into putting that research on-line so you can access it for free? I need some yard work done, not complicated, just time consuming. Could you trave l here at your own expense and do it for no payment?
Could someone help me out with a list of good free genealogy websites? I am tired of having to pay per month for information. Thanks in advance. Brian www.genealogytrackers.net cellibriel@gmail.com
On 03 Dec 2010, you wrote in soc.genealogy.britain: >> unless there was another >> George Morton in Colchester who was a gardener and had a daughter >> Mary. Nearest I can find is this one but a bit old to marry in 1854 ish.. Name: Mary Mount Morten Gender: Female Baptism/Christening Date: 20 Jun 1808 Baptism/Christening Place: LION WALK MEETING HOUSE- INDEPENDENT,COLCHESTER,ESSEX,ENGLAND Birth Date: Birthplace: Death Date: Name Note: Race: Father's Name: George Morten Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Alice Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C06722-1 System Origin: England-ODM Source Film Number: 587672 Reference Number: Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Looks like a lot of that family on the LDS pilot. Search for Morten without first name in Colchester.
Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote in news:ds6ff61e4em9ki4k66i1g74p2kfths40p4@4ax.com: > The mystery of the Mortons: the British German Legion and the Essex > girls. > > We looked at the Morton side of my wife's family again after > neglecting it for a long time. > > I won't bore you with the full story -- if you want to read it, it's > on our family history blog here: > > http://su.pr/AmnvMt > > Now, looking at that side of the family again, we did manage to get > hold of the 1851 census which shows Mary Morton, aged 8, with her > parents, George and Elizabeth Morton, both aged 45, and therefore born > about 1806. Elizabeth came from Boxted, up near the Suffolk border > (perhaps nearly not an Essex girl!). Mary had an older brother G. > Fred, and an older sister Emma, aged 10. Her younger siblings were > Thomas (3) and Catherine (1). And heres where the mystery deepens. > > If she was 8 in 1851, she was surely too young to get married in 1856, > when she would have been only 13, even as a minor with her fathers > permission. It must be the right family, unless there was another > George Morton in Colchester who was a gardener and had a daughter > Mary. And the FreeBMD site shows Mary Nevard Morton being born in > 1843. > > FreeBMD also shows an Emma Morton being born in 1838 (when we would > have expected Mary to be born)and dying in 1839. Then there is Mary > Nevard Morton in the June Quarter of 1843. Emma is dead, long live > Emma. She shows up alive and well and aged 10 in the 1851 census. > > And get this: on the same index page as Mary Nevard Mortons marriage > to August Decker, TWO Emmas married a George David Julius Casdorff > Emma Morton and Emma Rodwell. As if that were not enough, on the > previous page of the FreeBMD index, an Elizabeth Mount Decker married > another German. Perhaps she was the Lady Mount! > > It looks as though we will need to order the other two marriage > certificates, as well as Mary Nevard Mortons birth certificate to see > what happened. > Couldn't see any obvious way to sort that lot out otherwise. Might be of interest if you don't already have.. http://www.historyhouse.co.uk/placeC/essexc14g.html White's Directory of Essex 1848 - list of inhabitants Gardeners, Seedsmen, etc. George Morten James Morton William Morten both James and William are both Gardeners in Colchester in 1851. Perhaps William will turn out to be father or uncle of George and James? 1851 England Census about James Morton Name: James Morton Age: 33 Estimated birth year: abt 1818 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Rebecca Morton Gender: M (Male) Where born: Colchester, Essex, England Civil Parish: Colchester St Peter Town: Colchester County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 3d Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 79 Household Members: Name Age James Morton 33 Rebecca Morton 33 Rachael Morton 7 Alice Rebecca Morton 5 James E Morton 2 Charles W Morton 1 MO 1851 England Census about William Morten Name: William Morten Age: 64 Estimated birth year: abt 1787 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Elizabeth Morten Gender: M (Male) Where born: Colchester, Essex, England Civil Parish: Colchester St Martin County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: Disability: View image Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 94 Household Members: Name Age William Morten 64 Elizabeth Morten 63 Elizabeth Morten 36 William Morten 28 Sarah Morten 23
On Dec 1, 4:13 am, "tomba...@city-net.com" <tomba...@city-net.com> wrote: > On Nov 30, 10:34 pm, Charles Ellson <char...@ellson.demon.co.uk> > wrote: > > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:16:02 -0800 (PST), "tomba...@city-net.com" > > > <tomba...@city-net.com> wrote: > > >Would the death of a 3 month old infant be investigated by the > > >coronor's office. It could have been sudden infant death, I do not > > >know > > > The date and jurisdiction involved might have a significant effect on > > the answer. > > The date would be 1940 and Westmoreland County, PA The term SIDS wasn't in use until 1969 when it was coined at the Second International Conference on Causes of Sudden Death in Infants (Seattle, WA). I think a lot of earlier infant deaths were handled in a fairly perfunctory way with family doctors signing off on deaths with rather general CODs. In earlier times where infant mortality rates were much higher than today, people were less obsessed with the exact causes of death than they are now. Unless a baby died because of obvious abuse, I think it's not likely that a postmortem would have been conducted. Nancy T
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 13:11:47 -0600, Cellibriel <cellibriel@gmail.com> wrote: >Check this new website out: ><a href="http://www.genealogytrackers.net/">Genealogy Trackers</a> Why? What's on it? -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
The mystery of the Mortons: the British German Legion and the Essex girls. We looked at the Morton side of my wife's family again after neglecting it for a long time. I won't bore you with the full story -- if you want to read it, it's on our family history blog here: http://su.pr/AmnvMt Now, looking at that side of the family again, we did manage to get hold of the 1851 census which shows Mary Morton, aged 8, with her parents, George and Elizabeth Morton, both aged 45, and therefore born about 1806. Elizabeth came from Boxted, up near the Suffolk border (perhaps nearly not an Essex girl!). Mary had an older brother G. Fred, and an older sister Emma, aged 10. Her younger siblings were Thomas (3) and Catherine (1). And heres where the mystery deepens. If she was 8 in 1851, she was surely too young to get married in 1856, when she would have been only 13, even as a minor with her fathers permission. It must be the right family, unless there was another George Morton in Colchester who was a gardener and had a daughter Mary. And the FreeBMD site shows Mary Nevard Morton being born in 1843. FreeBMD also shows an Emma Morton being born in 1838 (when we would have expected Mary to be born)and dying in 1839. Then there is Mary Nevard Morton in the June Quarter of 1843. Emma is dead, long live Emma. She shows up alive and well and aged 10 in the 1851 census. And get this: on the same index page as Mary Nevard Mortons marriage to August Decker, TWO Emmas married a George David Julius Casdorff Emma Morton and Emma Rodwell. As if that were not enough, on the previous page of the FreeBMD index, an Elizabeth Mount Decker married another German. Perhaps she was the Lady Mount! It looks as though we will need to order the other two marriage certificates, as well as Mary Nevard Mortons birth certificate to see what happened. -- Steve Hayes Web: http://hayesgreene.wordpress.com/ http://hayesgreene.blogspot.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afgen/
On Wed, 1 Dec 2010 04:13:18 -0800 (PST), "tombates@city-net.com" <tombates@city-net.com> wrote: >On Nov 30, 10:34 pm, Charles Ellson <char...@ellson.demon.co.uk> >wrote: >> On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:16:02 -0800 (PST), "tomba...@city-net.com" >> >> <tomba...@city-net.com> wrote: >> >Would the death of a 3 month old infant be investigated by the >> >coronor's office. It could have been sudden infant death, I do not >> >know >> >> The date and jurisdiction involved might have a significant effect on >> the answer. > >The date would be 1940 and Westmoreland County, PA > http://www.co.westmoreland.pa.us/westmoreland/cwp/view.asp?a=1424&q=625887&westmorelandNav=| [http://tinyurl.com/3ywasqf] is an FAQ specific to that county which presumably operates under state-specific laws. Googling for e.g. 'pennsylvania coroner history' brings up other counties and probably some more historical references; no doubt changes have occurred in the last 70 years. However it looks like you won't get much detail from the Coroner's office as (unless you are an entitled relative etc.) the records appear to be kept secret apart from :- "Name of the decedent, cause and manner of death, age of the decedent, date and time of death, Coroner's Name and Seal." I suspect the same information might be available for less from the death registration if it can be supplied, see :- www.health.state.pa.us/vitalrecords
Yes but some place the coroner has NO training is actually an elected official. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 3:16 PM, tombates@city-net.com < tombates@city-net.com> wrote: > Would the death of a 3 month old infant be investigated by the > coronor's office. It could have been sudden infant death, I do not > know > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALT-GENEALOGY-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- "If you tell the truth you don't have to remember anything." Proud member of the IBSSG
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On Nov 30, 10:34 pm, Charles Ellson <char...@ellson.demon.co.uk> wrote: > On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:16:02 -0800 (PST), "tomba...@city-net.com" > > <tomba...@city-net.com> wrote: > >Would the death of a 3 month old infant be investigated by the > >coronor's office. It could have been sudden infant death, I do not > >know > > The date and jurisdiction involved might have a significant effect on > the answer. The date would be 1940 and Westmoreland County, PA
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 13:16:02 -0800 (PST), "tombates@city-net.com" <tombates@city-net.com> wrote: >Would the death of a 3 month old infant be investigated by the >coronor's office. It could have been sudden infant death, I do not >know > The date and jurisdiction involved might have a significant effect on the answer.
On 11-30-2010 20:35, Brian wrote: > I took a genealogy class and one person in the class had a grandfather > who disappeared in the 30's. He was found to have moved a long > distance and raised a second family completely unknown to the first > family. I have a relative who "disappeared" He erroneously misinterpreted the "Gros" in "Grosleau" as French for "Big" Started calling himself "Bigelow" and decades later, no one knows where to look. :-)_ -- Wes Groleau Why “The Blind Dog Leading” ? http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/BlindDog?itemid=3569
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:12:08 -0400, news@jecarter.us wrote: >On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 00:15:52 -0400, TECH NEWBIE <TECH@ICAL.HELP> >wrote: > >> Lasts names searching are bryant and bonine, both B's, but I >>reach brick walls around 5 generations which is not a lot of time if >>you count a generation as 20 or so years. >> >>I'm specific to Both Surnames in TN and NC and I can only go back to >>1825 but that is even unconfirmable. Confirmable goes to 1885 at best. >> >> >>What's driving me crazy is that you'd think a relatively rare surname >>like Bonine would be easy to go in a straight line but it at times is >>no more easy than a smith or jonesmy forgiveness if you're searching >>those two :-) } >> >> >>So can some soothe sayer, some Senior Genealologist here help a poor >>soul our? >> >> >>thanks > >Sometimes there doesn't seem to be a solution. I have a >G-G-grandfather who just "appeared" out of nowhere. > >I have a possible name for his father, but zero documentation for the >connection. Even the possible person seems to have appeared out of >thin air :-( > >It was much easier to start a new life in the early 1800's - move 100 >miles away and use any name you liked. You were not likely to >encounter anyone who knew you (or even knew of you). > >I have to wonder if there were horse thieves or bank robbers in my >past ;-) > >John > I took a genealogy class and one person in the class had a grandfather who disappeared in the 30's. He was found to have moved a long distance and raised a second family completely unknown to the first family.
Would the death of a 3 month old infant be investigated by the coronor's office. It could have been sudden infant death, I do not know Mary
"Mick." <mrcycleuk@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:ZPKdnQ7Hif9wF27RnZ2dnUVZ8madnZ2d@brightview.com... > > "Charles Ellson" <charles@ellson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:6oh5f612qjks01thmnjbdl1esbo3m5gjm7@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 20:01:57 -0000, "Mick." <mrcycleuk@yahoo.co.uk> >> wrote: >> >>>Hi all, >>> >>>Would anyone know if the latest release of Brothers Keeper (Version 6.4) >>>can >>>be installed on Windows 7 Home Premium system ok? >>> >>>On my XP Home system the fie path is: C:\Program Files\Brothers >>>Keeper6\Data >>> >>>But setting it as that in Windows 7 Home Premium brings up a lot of >>>information boxes, but does not see the data folder? >>> >> I have known some past software to get awkward if a path does not have >> the final "\". >> >> See also soc.genealogy.computing . > > Thank you Charles, > I have posted it in soc.genealogy.computing . too now. > My file path in my XP System does not have the final "\". > Mick. One of the big improvements in WIN 7 is that if you have a software clash, it asks if you want to run the programme as for WIN XP. I was having a lot of trouble with Vista and software such as Word Perfect (wouldn't print), and some games wouldn't run at all. Since switching to WIN 7, I've had no problems at all - if it doesn't offer to run the programme as for XP, there's a menu item for software compatitbility (I THINK under Control Panel - my WIN 7 machine is at home), which is what you need. Everything I ran under XP now works fine, without me having to modify anything. Lesley Robertson
Hello David, On Heritagequest the citation is Series: T626 Roll: 110 Page: 265B (B is the 2nd image) On ancestry the citation is Source Citation: Year: 1930; Census Place: Berkeley, Alameda, California; Roll: 110; Page: 5A; Enumeration District: 290; Image: 1156.0. I have to send the image from my home email. I cannot attach it to this. Look for kenefick @at@ copper .dot. net Mike in Ohio On Nov 28, 12:58 pm, David Cornell <djc...@optonline.net> wrote: > Hello, > > I would be very grateful if someone could send me the census page images > for: > > Beatrice B Kreuzberger in Alameda County, California born abt 1900 in > Indiana > > and > > Jack B Kreuzberger in Alameda County, California born abt 1923 > > Thanks in advance, > > David Cornell