A Register of Deaths in Sumter County, Alabama, for 1881 to 1893 (the only extant such record of deaths in the 1800s) has an entry that Eliza Binns, age 87, born in Virginia, died near Jones Bluff on December 3, 1881 of "old age". Having been given this record by a former Probate Judge of Sumter County, and having used the information from it in a book that I authored, I deposited it for safekeeping in the Alabama Room of the University of West Alabama in Livingston, Sumter County, Alabama. Jones Bluff was a village near the present town of Epes, and several black families of Binns lived there during my youth in the 1930s. A leading black of the area, Will Binn, owned and operated a store near Epes until the late 1980s or early 1990s. Joe Stegall

C.J. McMahon voted at Gainesville in 1850 and in 1861. Additionally, in 1850, A. W. McMahon voted at Gainesville. Please keep in mind that the voting returns from which this information is taken were the only ones that survived until today. From surveying the surviving election returns, it is obvious that there were other elections from which we have no information. Hope that this helps. Joe Stegall

Hello Everyone, We are sending this email to many lists because each of these states/counties have a BINNS relation that has resided in them. We have been researching the BINNS name for many years. Many of our original email contacts for many of these areas are no longer valid. So we are sending this mass email message. We apologize for any inconvenience. Our research has resulted in an original BINNS source as Christopher Binns of St. Peter's Parish, New Kent County, Virginia, born about 1670. There are several presumptions on a variety of lines but these presumptions have a substantial basis. The descendants of this Christopher Binns have spread far and wide throughout the country. Genealogy is becoming a very popular hobby and we hope that many new individuals are now subscribed to these email lists and they may have connections to BINNS families. We invite any and all to visit our 'American Binns Families and Individuals' website, listed in our signature file below, for any possible connection. We need everyones help in establishing a more positive connection. We need family trees and family records. We need corrections and additions. Please help us to create a more accurate BINNS family tree for everyone to pass on to their descendants. Email links are located on our website. Thank you for your consideration!! Steve and Bunny --------- Subscribe to BINNS-L surname email list: mailto:BINNS-L-request@rootsweb.com?subject=subscribe&body=subscribe American Binns Families and Individuals: http://www.yspcbdesigns.com/americanb/index.htm 1790/1800 County Tax Lists of Virginia: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/index.htm

Wendell, thanks for the info. You are the first connection to our line I have found. Robert was my husband's ggg grandfather. We have a journal that Robert's grandson wrote and in it he tells quite a bit about his grandfather. Bill my husband, is descended through daughter, Amelia Cubley and Henry Vincent Hurlock. Robert lived with them for a number of years and shared a room with young Sam. This journal is where we get the Tenn. connection. I would love to exchange info with you. We would like to know more about John and wife (who was he married to?) Looking forward to hearing from you.

Can I get in on this? Do either of you know how Robert M Cubley (also in Sumpter, Greene and Choctaw Co) is related to john Cubley? Robert was a Methodist Minister and ended up in Texas about 1858. He is found on many marriage records in the above mentioned counties. He also had a tie to Giles Co., TN. I believ his wife, Rebecca Beavers was from there but in looking in that County, I found a Cubley connection. Robert was born about 1812 in Ga and died in Trinity Co., TX in 1890. He lived in Palestine and later in Corsicana before moving and dying in Trinity, Trin. co.

This past Monday, I visited Livingston to see the house my dad grew up in. The present owner of the house was kind enough to give me the "grand tour." The house is located on West Main Street and was built in 1842. It was like taking a step back into the long ago past around the turn of the century! I could imagine my grandparents, my future dad, and aunts and uncles living their daily lives in that house. Later, my aunt gave it the name of "Pleasant Ridge." I then drove to Gainesville and had a wonderful tour guide there who took me to the old Presbyterian church and gave me a history run-down of the area. It was my great-uncle who ran the American Hotel in Gainesville until the late 1920s. Ah, such history! Gail McMahon

Wendell, one last thought. The Probate Office may be willing to make a copy of the will for you and, perhaps a copy of the Orphans Record Book 3, page 91. However, that Orphans Record citation is for only the first record of the settlement of the estate of John K. Cubley. There may be additional records in Book 3 or later books. Frequently, the heirs of the estate are identified in later records. Joe

Wendell, I do not have access to the Cubley will, except by going to the courthouse (30 miles away) and making a copy of it. You may be able to obtain a copy from the Probate Office if you write to it and give it the will book number and page number. Frequently, requests to the Probate Office for copies of records are passed along to me for it seems that I am the only genealogical researcher that the staff of the Probate Office can turn to. But, in this case, since you have the citation as to where the record is filed, you should be able to obtain a copy from the staff of the Probate Office. Send your request to Sumter County Probate Judge, Livingston, AL 35470. Joe

A comprehensive survey of all known cemeteries in Sumter County was accomplished in the 1960s and 1970s, and a book of the recorded tombstone inscriptions was published in 1997. No Cubleys are listed. My records show that a John K. Cubley died in Sumter County and that he left a will (Will Book 1, page 121) and some settlement of his estate is recorded in Orphans Court Record Book 3, page 91. You should keep in mind that relatively few early immigrants to Sumter County were buried with permanent grave markers. It seems that most, even those who could have well afforded inscribed tombstones, were placed in graves without them. Also, the ravages of man (e.g., land-clearing bulldozers, loggers) and of nature have destroyed many of the family cemeteries and, overgrowth is now consuming some of the early community and church cemeteries where there is no one left to care for them. Hope that this helps. Joe

Here are some sites for Census and Alabama maps http://www.segenealogy.com/sgo03.htm http://www.segenealogy.com/sgo03_al.htm http://www.segenealogy.com/alabama/al_censusmap.htm And County Formation Maps http://www.segenealogy.com/alabama/al_map.htm Hope they can help someone.

For Gail - regarding Alabama McMahon Families: Guess we've struck out this time. Sadly, none of your names rings a bell - and these are the only Sumpter County people I know of. However, I will be happy to keep your query on file, just in case. Regards, Laurette

on 6/22/01 1:00 PM, ALSUMTER-D-request@rootsweb.com at ALSUMTER-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: In reply to your note, I'm not sure how I'm related to these McMahons (although there probably is a family connection. My father was William Overton, grandfather was Carl McMahon (m. Gage Winston), and great-grandfather was Asher Waterman McMahon (m Jane B. Jackson). Do any of these names sound familiar to you? I've been concentrating on my direct line, so the names you mentioned don't ring a bell yet. I have found that common names in the family were Robert, John, and William. Must be a million of them!! ______________________________ > From: LucyRea@aol.com > Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 6:43 PM > To: ALSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALSUMTER] Re: ALSUMTER-D Digest V01 #26 > > In answer to Gail McMahon's query regarding the MCMAHON FAMILY in > Livingston, I have the following information for her: ELMIRA (ELLA) REA (b. > 1851 in Marion, Ms.), a daughter of my great grand-father, CONSTANTINE REA of > Lauderdale County, Ms., was married to JOHN MCMAHON of Sumpter County, and > lived in Gainesville. There were two sons, ROBERT & JOHN, (who married ALMA > BILBRO) Their grandparents were ROBERT S. MCMAHON and ELIZABETH R. C. > SCOTT. also of Sumpter County. Additionally, ELLA REA'S sister, ELIZA > (JENNIE) and her husband, THOMAS GOODLOE, lived in Wildwood, Sumpter, where > she died in 1898. I would be so very grateful to receive more information > about these great aunts and their families. > Laurette R. Russell > Atlantis, Florida > > ______________________________ > From: "Casandra Sykes" <casandra.sykes@worldnet.att.net> > Date: Thursday, June 21, 2001 10:39 PM > To: ALSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALSUMTER] GILBERT HOLDER > > HELLO EVERYONE, I'M NEW TO THE GROUP AND I'M RESEARCHING THE HOLDER'S OF > SUMTER COUNTY, ALABAMA. GILBERT HOLDER MARRIED JANE?? THEIR CHILDREN NAMES ARE > SEEBELL, CLIFF, STAFFORD, LULA, TEMPY AND IVORY. I'M SPECIFICALLY SEARCHING > FOR SEEBELL HOLDER WHO MARRIED LILBERT COSBY. THEY HAD A CHILD NAME MANNIE > COSBY. >

HELLO EVERYONE, I'M NEW TO THE GROUP AND I'M RESEARCHING THE HOLDER'S OF SUMTER COUNTY, ALABAMA. GILBERT HOLDER MARRIED JANE?? THEIR CHILDREN NAMES ARE SEEBELL, CLIFF, STAFFORD, LULA, TEMPY AND IVORY. I'M SPECIFICALLY SEARCHING FOR SEEBELL HOLDER WHO MARRIED LILBERT COSBY. THEY HAD A CHILD NAME MANNIE COSBY.

In answer to Gail McMahon's query regarding the MCMAHON FAMILY in Livingston, I have the following information for her: ELMIRA (ELLA) REA (b. 1851 in Marion, Ms.), a daughter of my great grand-father, CONSTANTINE REA of Lauderdale County, Ms., was married to JOHN MCMAHON of Sumpter County, and lived in Gainesville. There were two sons, ROBERT & JOHN, (who married ALMA BILBRO) Their grandparents were ROBERT S. MCMAHON and ELIZABETH R. C. SCOTT. also of Sumpter County. Additionally, ELLA REA'S sister, ELIZA (JENNIE) and her husband, THOMAS GOODLOE, lived in Wildwood, Sumpter, where she died in 1898. I would be so very grateful to receive more information about these great aunts and their families. Laurette R. Russell Atlantis, Florida

My grandfather, Carl McMahon, and his family lived in Livingston from about 1893 on. Does anyone have information on that family? Gail McMahon

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Posted on: Sumter Co. Al Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Al/Sumter/10420 Surname: ------------------------- Emelle is approximately 17 miles north of York. There was probably no good road between York and Emelle in those days, so it could not be assumed that this Scott family had access to the York area. You could probably obtain a copy of the marriage record by writing to the Probabe Office, Sumter County Courthouse, Livingston, AL 35470. Joe Stegall

Posted on: Sumter Co. Al Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Al/Sumter/10419 Surname: Scott, Harry, Drummond ------------------------- Could you tell me, were these SCOTT's near York, AL? Someone sent me a statement that Walter SCOTT married a Martha Drummond 21 Jan 1868 in Sumter Co.,AL. Would very much like a copy of this marriage record. This Walter seems to be the right age. I would like to prove that these folks are the parents of Lula Belle and Ella SCOTT (sisters). By census record, Federal or State. Lula Belle SCOTT married John J. HARRY in York, Sumpter Co. on the 15th of Aug. 1893. Lula and John SCOTT are my husband's great-grand parents. Any help would be welcome. Patty(Snowden)Herring

Posted on: Sumter Co. Al Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Al/Sumter/10413 Surname: ------------------------- A Scott family listed in the 1850 census appears to have lived near present-day Emelle in north Sumter County, roughly just across the state line from southeast Kemper County, MS. Although the censustaker did not identify where the families on that page of the census lived, I know that two of the families (Dillards and Willinghams) lived near Emelle. As you can find from the 1850 census, the family was headed by Susan C. Scott, age 45, and born in VA. The following children were listed, all born in VA except the last, who was born in AL: Isabella M. age 16 Catherine J. age 14 William age 13 Walter age 11 Virginia age 9 I recognize that this Walter would have been too young to have fathered children as early as 1850, but he certainly would have been old enough to have fathered your twins Alexander and Regina in 1858. Best of luck! Joe Stegall

Posted on: Sumter Co. Al Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/USA/Al/Sumter/10410 Surname: HALL, IVY ------------------------- My ancestor, Stephen IVY, was from Sumter Co AL. He had a son named Joshua Hall IVY. I know that Stephen IVY & Joshua HALL had contact;I wonder if they were close friends since it appears that Stephen may have named a son after Joshua. This is my question - have you come across information involving Stephen & Joshua; any special connection? Thank you for any help. I look forward to hearing from you. Sylvia