Who ever it was that tried to send me a message direct on the Alabama-Coushatta Indians instead of through this mail list, I did not open it as it had the virus attached to it. If it had any more information than that which "Mema", Peter, or Frances sent, please contact me "after" you get rid of the virus. It seems that with their help, there is nothing else to know on this tribe and I really appreciate their help. That is what is so great about these lists. Two, three, etc. heads are always better than one. I never thought to look it up the different ways that these kind people did. Marlene

Thank you all who sent information on the AL-Coushatta tribe. Now, I still have my family, the Halls that I have been working on for 15 - 20 years and still unable to find who his in-laws were. Thanks again. Marlene

WOW......Very interesting........Thank you for posting this info......My grandmother went to the all women colloge at the Livingston University in the the 1920's. She has a picture of an Indian woman dress in her Indian clothing.....this was the first time my grandmother ever seen an Indian and she ask the lady if she could take her picture.....My grandmother couldn't remember her name.....but remember the lady was passing thru......My aunt has the picture, but is very fragal and woren...... Thanks again for the history Kim

http://www.alabama-coushatta.com/history-main.htm ALABAMA - COUSHATTA TRIBE HISTORY Nestled deep in the Big Thicket of East Texas lies Texas' oldest reservation, home of the Alabama-Coushatta Tribe of Texas. It is located on 4,600 acres of virgin timberland is called home by some 500 hundred members of the Tribe. Once separate entities, they are both members of the Upper Creek Confederacy of Indians and are of the Muskogean Nation. The two tribes originated in what is now the state of Alabama and were closely related before they came to Texas. In 1805, approximately one thousand Alabamas came to Tyler County's Peach Tree Village. The Coushattas were already in East Texas, having arrived into the Big Thicket area sometime after 1795. Their inter-tribal friendship became even stronger as they roamed and hunted this new land together. When they first formed villages, their homes were fashioned out of the abundant East Texas timber and the leaves of palmettos were used on their roofs. In the early 1800's, the Texas Congress granted each tribe two leagues of land along the Trinity River. This land was soon taken over by white settlers, leaving them homeless. And so, Sam Houston recommended that the state purchase 1,280 acres for the Alabamas and set aside 640 acres for the Coushattas. The land for the Coushattas was never plotted nor surveyed; and so, either through marriage or special permission, they came to live on the allotted land with the Alabamas - uniting the two to become the Alabama-Coushatta. Many other Coushattas moved to an area near Kinder, Louisiana, where a majority of whom still reside today. The Alabama-Coushattas live for 74 years without any assistance. And since their land was unsuitable for raising crops or grazing cattle, they were forced to roam the Big Thicket area in search of food. So, when hunting became prohibited during certain seasons, malnutrition and disease struck hard, once reducing the tribal population to less than 200. During the 1920's, the poor living condition of Indian people was brought to the attention of State and Federal Governments. As a result, beginning in 1928, both governments appropriated funds to help improve these conditions. The Federal Government also purchased an additional 3,171 acres of land adjoining the original reservation to be held in trust for the Alabama-Coushattas. Also, two and four bedroom frame houses were built to replace meager log cabins, shallow water wells were dug to help eliminate long treks to local springs for water, and, most importantly, medical and educational needs were at last recognized. In 1954, the Federal Government relinquished its trusteeship of all lands and other assets pertaining to the Tribe. With the assistance of the Alabama-Coushatta Tribal Council, the State of Texas Hospital and Special Schools took over the responsibility of the Tribe. In September 1965, the State's management of the Tribe was shifted to the newly created Texas Commission of Indian Affairs, which was made up of three people appointed by the Governor. In 1957, the Attorney General ruled that the Tribal Council had the right to manage the timber on the reservation and to use the revenue from the timber sales to finance different projects that would benefit all the people. Authority was also given to conduct a timber management program in cooperation with the Texas Forest Service. This was to prevent the excessive or premature cutting of timber, thereby protecting the long-range financial interest of the people. As a result, the Alabama-Coushatta Reservation won the state's top award for forestry conservation and their achievement in timber management. In 1959, Texas lawmakers passed a bill enabling the Tribal Council to lease land on the Reservation for mineral rights. Income from timber sales and mineral leases was used to a great degree to finance the education of young tribal members who were interested in furthering their education. Today, some 550 tribal members live on the Alabama-Coushatta Reservation today, while there is still a large number that live in surrounding towns. While many of the families prefer to live on the Reservation, many are forced to leave because of job opportunities. Those employed off the Reservation commute as far as 60 miles. Although the expanding tourism program creates new jobs every year, the Reservation only offers employment to a small number on a permanent basis. Those who do not leave the Reservation, work for the Tribe. To assist the children with better education and prepare them for public schools, a Kindergarten was established in 1957. It is now know as the Head Start Program and serves one hundred children consisting of Native Americans, Hispanic Americans, African Americans, and Anglo Americans. The children of the Tribe attend public schools in Big Sandy, Livingston, or Woodville. Young Tribal members have a desire for higher education and a large number of them are continuing on at the college or university level today. The Tribe's Education Department is available to assist students in completing application forms or applying for scholarships. During the early 1960's, Tribal leaders began to look for a solution to the problems of limited job opportunities. Poor soil, the high cost of farm implements and lack of modern farm knowledge ruled out farming as a source of family income. The outlook for industrial development was discouraging because of large investments required, and again, lack of technological knowledge. During that time, Texas was enjoying a boom in tourism. The industry was creating jobs throughout the state. A decision was made to invite guests to the Alabama-Coushatta Reservation to enjoy the beautiful scenery and learn of the Tribe's customs and way of life. In 1963, with assistance from the State of Texas, the Tribe built a museum, gift shop, and a restaurant. They later added a tribal dance square and tour through the Big Thicket. More than 20,000 guests visited the reservation during the first year of operation; and today, ten times more that number visit annually. A 26-acre lake was completed in 1971 and offers an ideal spot for picnics, camping, and swimming. Lake Tombigbee is completely encircled by a paved road and the lake is restocked yearly to provide a variety of fish for the amateur angler. A total of 131 campsites are available to accommodate those who wish to rough it out in the primitive section to full hook-up sites. Modern restrooms are also available in the campgrounds. Cabins are now available in the campground. A grocery store with a modern laundromat opened in 1975. The reservation also has its own water and sewer systems. The new jobs created by tourism have greatly improved living conditions of the Tribal people. Since the mid 1970's, seventy new brick homes have been built on the Reservation through the Mutual Help Housing Project administered by HUD and the Tribal Council. The project offers home ownership to residents. After years of being under the auspices of the State of Texas, the Tribe started the wheels rolling to become a federally recognized tribe. Working with the Native American Rights Fund, the Tribe pursued legislation to become federally recognized and on August 18, 1987, President Ronald Reagan signed Public Law 100-89 reinstating the Alabama-Coushatta as such. In 1988, the Tribal Council contracted for health care with Indian Health Care and the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services to establish the Indian Health Service. IHS was staffed by Tribal members and operated in a small Building. In 1989, the Chief Kina Health Clinic (named after Chief Kina Robert Fulton Battise, Chief of the Alabama-Coushatta Tribe) was dedicated with 3,300 square feet of space. Today, the Health Clinic has expanded its facilities so that it may better serve the people. Religious influence, a mainstay in times of great need, is still strong today. Presbyterian missionaries came first and they still have the largest following. Throughout their history, the Tribe has been ruled by a both a Principal Chief and a Second Chief. (The Chiefs were elected by the people and served lifetime terms.) However, in 1957, the Tribal Council was established and is now recognized as the main governing body. The seven Tribal members selected to serve as members of the Council are elected by popular vote and serve three and four year rotating terms. Those elected are the Chairman, Vice Chairman, Secretary, and Treasurer. The Tribal Council meets twice a month to conduct the business of the Tribe. The Tribal Administrator handles day-to-day activities. Under the Tribal Administrator are program managers who are responsible to their departments to include Administrative, Finance, Procurement, Maintenance, Lake Management, Forestry, Social Services, Housing, Solid Waste, Oil and Gas, Education, Building Inspection, Public Relations, Environment Protection, Environmental Protection, Head Start, Day Care, Workforce Investment Act, Security, Tribal Enterprises, and Smoke Shops. Today, the Tribe proudly boasts its progress. Most of the departments listed above moved into a 1.7 million dollar building from a building which at one time was the Tribal Hospital built in the early 1940's. The Tribe also has its own volunteer fire department and ambulance with qualified emergency technicians. In 1997, the Solid Waste facility was opened. Today, construction of a 250 feet by 150 feet covered pavilion has been completed to house the annual powwow which is held every year at the first weekend in June and other events which the Tribe sponsors throughout the year. The Alabama-Coushatta Tribe are a very proud people and work hard to hold on to their culture while learning to adjust to the modern world of technology which is the way of life today. A large majority of its members speak the Native language. In order to keep the language and our traditional crafts alive, a high priority is placed to teach the Alabama-Coushatta language and how to weave pine needle baskets by holding classes taught by the elders of the Tribe. The leadership of the Alabama-Coushatta Tribe work diligently for the betterment of its people and the future. You will find much more information about the Alabama-Coushatta Tribe of Texas by visiting the Handbook of Texas Online. [Back to History Menu] [Top of Page] . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marlene Clark" <marlene@eazylink.com> To: <ALSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 6:25 AM Subject: [ALSUMTER] Alabama-Coushatta Indians > I know the Choctaws were in what is now Sumter Co. There is a tribe in > Texas called "Alabama-Coushatta". Does anyone know anything about them? In > the research that I have done in AL, I never came across this tribe, but It > seems at one point I was told that they were part of the Choctaw Tribe. > Their headquarters seem to be near Livingston, TX. I have done considerable > research on the Choctaws, but never happened upon the Alabama-Coushattas. I > am trying to finish some genealogy loose ends for my kids and although I am > part Choctaw, their father's family thinks they are part Alabama-Coushattas. > Any help will be appreciated. > > Another loose end concerns the Choctaws in AL. I have most of it, but still > need information on the Hall family that moved from there about 1838. They > were probably the ones that were allowed 320 acres by the 1830 treaty and > was given a reserve of S13, 23, 24 and the E1/2 S30 T18 R1E (seven miles > from Demopolis, AL) and had sold it by June 16, 1838. His name was William > Hall and her name was Susan _ _ _ _ Hall. Their daughter said she was born > in Cherokee, AL and that her mother was also born in AL. Her mother was > definitely Choctaw. In a book, it states that William Hall stated he was > mixedblood and therefore was allowed to remain east on July 5, 1831. There > daughter always stated that her father was from Ireland and that her mother > was Choctaw. I have seen statements as to the parents of Susan _ _ _ _ > Hall, but have seen no proof. I keep sending for more Census Cards on > different ones, but, as yet, have no proof. I have the entire set of > "Alabama Records", but since I found that Colbert Co. was cut out of > Lawrence Co., have not had time to go through all the Lawrence Co. books in > that set. > > Marlene > > > ==== ALSUMTER Mailing List ==== > If your new to the list or you haven't introduced yourself, please do. We are all eager to share and learn about our Sumter County, Alabama Ancestors. > Sumter County, ALGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~alsumter > Listowner Kristy Williams Sumter@US-Gen.com > >

the Alabama were the uncivilized tribe and the Coushatta were the civilized tribe of Ala. and since they bacame so intermarried they named them the Ala.Coushatta; that's what I heard. frances

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The Texas Alabama-Coushatta Indians have a web site that you might try: http://www.alabama-coushatta.com/index2.html Good luck, Pete > -----Original Message----- > From: Marlene Clark [mailto:marlene@eazylink.com] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 8:26 AM > To: ALSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ALSUMTER] Alabama-Coushatta Indians > > > I know the Choctaws were in what is now Sumter Co. There is a tribe in > Texas called "Alabama-Coushatta". Does anyone know anything > about them? In > the research that I have done in AL, I never came across this > tribe, but It > seems at one point I was told that they were part of the Choctaw Tribe. > Their headquarters seem to be near Livingston, TX. I have done > considerable > research on the Choctaws, but never happened upon the > Alabama-Coushattas. I > am trying to finish some genealogy loose ends for my kids and > although I am > part Choctaw, their father's family thinks they are part > Alabama-Coushattas. > Any help will be appreciated. > > Another loose end concerns the Choctaws in AL. I have most of > it, but still > need information on the Hall family that moved from there about > 1838. They > were probably the ones that were allowed 320 acres by the 1830 treaty and > was given a reserve of S13, 23, 24 and the E1/2 S30 T18 R1E (seven miles > from Demopolis, AL) and had sold it by June 16, 1838. His name > was William > Hall and her name was Susan _ _ _ _ Hall. Their daughter said > she was born > in Cherokee, AL and that her mother was also born in AL. Her mother was > definitely Choctaw. In a book, it states that William Hall stated he was > mixedblood and therefore was allowed to remain east on July 5, > 1831. There > daughter always stated that her father was from Ireland and that > her mother > was Choctaw. I have seen statements as to the parents of Susan _ _ _ _ > Hall, but have seen no proof. I keep sending for more Census Cards on > different ones, but, as yet, have no proof. I have the entire set of > "Alabama Records", but since I found that Colbert Co. was cut out of > Lawrence Co., have not had time to go through all the Lawrence > Co. books in > that set. > > Marlene > > > ==== ALSUMTER Mailing List ==== > If your new to the list or you haven't introduced yourself, > please do. We are all eager to share and learn about our Sumter > County, Alabama Ancestors. > Sumter County, ALGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~alsumter > Listowner Kristy Williams Sumter@US-Gen.com > >

I know the Choctaws were in what is now Sumter Co. There is a tribe in Texas called "Alabama-Coushatta". Does anyone know anything about them? In the research that I have done in AL, I never came across this tribe, but It seems at one point I was told that they were part of the Choctaw Tribe. Their headquarters seem to be near Livingston, TX. I have done considerable research on the Choctaws, but never happened upon the Alabama-Coushattas. I am trying to finish some genealogy loose ends for my kids and although I am part Choctaw, their father's family thinks they are part Alabama-Coushattas. Any help will be appreciated. Another loose end concerns the Choctaws in AL. I have most of it, but still need information on the Hall family that moved from there about 1838. They were probably the ones that were allowed 320 acres by the 1830 treaty and was given a reserve of S13, 23, 24 and the E1/2 S30 T18 R1E (seven miles from Demopolis, AL) and had sold it by June 16, 1838. His name was William Hall and her name was Susan _ _ _ _ Hall. Their daughter said she was born in Cherokee, AL and that her mother was also born in AL. Her mother was definitely Choctaw. In a book, it states that William Hall stated he was mixedblood and therefore was allowed to remain east on July 5, 1831. There daughter always stated that her father was from Ireland and that her mother was Choctaw. I have seen statements as to the parents of Susan _ _ _ _ Hall, but have seen no proof. I keep sending for more Census Cards on different ones, but, as yet, have no proof. I have the entire set of "Alabama Records", but since I found that Colbert Co. was cut out of Lawrence Co., have not had time to go through all the Lawrence Co. books in that set. Marlene

Looking for parents and grandparents of Margaret Hall. She claimed both she and her mother were born in AL but that her father was born in Ireland. She said she was born in Cherokee, Alabama in 1820. Hall family lived along Tombigbee River, but moved approx. 1847. She had at least two sisters - Jane and Catherine (Katie). "Possible" relatives - Cheadle/Riddle/Kemp. Any help would be appreciated. Marlene

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Paris/Parris/Parish - Nelson - Hall>AL>GA Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZS.2ADE/374 Message Board Post: looking for information on the parents and siblings of my gg-grandmother Lucinda Ann Paris/Parris/Parish b. 17 Mar 1827 in AL, d. 9 Mar 1901 in Baldwin County, AL. The 1880 census reveals her father? was born in GA, but the 1910 census reveals he was born in AL. The 1900 census reveals that her mother? was born in England. Lucinda m. husband (1)Simon Nelson 24 April 1845 in Sumter Co. AL ; children born of marriage: Dock b. circa 1858 and Kitty b. 1865; Lucinda m. husband (2) Moses Hall 20 Aug 1866 in Mobile Co. AL; children born of marriage: Ella Rebecca b. Apr 1867, Milliard(sp) b. circa 1871 and Laura b. Feb 1875. Any info would be so greatly appreciated.

Looking for information on the parents of gg-grandmother Lucinda Ann Paris/Parris/Parish b. 17 Mar 1827 d. 9 Mar 1901. m. (1)Simon Nelson 24 April 1845; children born of marriage: Dock b. circa 1858 and Kitty b. 1865; m.(2) Moses Hall 20 Aug 1866; children born of marriage: Ella Rebecca b. Apr 1867, Milliard(sp) b. circa 1871 and Laura b. Feb 1875. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. me2girl@webtv.net Jesus Is Lord Isaiah 41:10

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: James Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZS.2ADE/372 Message Board Post: I am working on the James families in Sumpter in the 1800's. I recently got a copy of the will of Thomas E. James which shows his wife as Sarah and his son Edward. I am especially interested in John S. James who died in 1862 while in the CSA Co.C, 40 Ala Inf. I would love to hear from anyone else working on the James family. It seems that unless you're related to Jesse its hard to get much info. I also have a copy of some court papers for WIlliam Huger James there in Sumpter. He was the son of William Dobein James who wrote the famous book on Francis Marion. Its an interesting family, but not mine. Any help will be much appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McKnight Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZS.2ADE/371.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: http://tommcknight.com/Sumter-County-AL/confederatestatue.htm Here are a few photos of the monument taken by Joe Stegal.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZS.2ADE/371.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Sorry, but I probably cannot help you with your photography. I, too, have had many failures. I would expect that ambient lighting would have a great influence on the results. Did you try under both bright sun and cloudy conditions? If not, I would suggest trying under the condition that you did not experience. I knew a Frank Danner who operated a store west of the Boyd community, near the Mississippi line, in the 1970s when I was the Tax Assessor of Sumter County.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZS.2ADE/371.1 Message Board Post: There is a monument within the courthouse square in Livingston to those Sumter Countians who fought in the War of the Northern Aggression.

I am looking for the grave of Rebecca Grizzle Key--after 1850-60- Some of her children moved from Greene to Sumter area--and one daughter married a Boyd. Anyone know where she is buried? -----Original Message----- From: ALSUMTER-D-request@rootsweb.com <ALSUMTER-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: ALSUMTER-D@rootsweb.com <ALSUMTER-D@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, September 21, 2001 12:00 PM Subject: ALSUMTER-D Digest V01 #58

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZS.2ADE/365.1 Message Board Post: I do not know who maintains the cemetery, but Frank Boyd, who lives nearby, would know. You can call Frank at 205-455-2426, or you can write him at Rural Route, Emelle, AL 35459. Joe Stegall

I'd love to see the pictures. Betty beh@rose.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "G.F. Taylor" <gft@infi.net> To: <ALSUMTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: [ALSUMTER] Souls Chaple Cemetery Photos > I have several photographs of Souls Chaple Cemetery; most are of the > Parker and Ramsey graves, but there are several general photographs as > well. I'll be glad to e-mail copies to any one who would like them. > > > ==== ALSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Have you checked out the Sumter County, ALGenWeb site lately? You never know what exiting things may be awaiting you! > Sumter County, ALGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~alsumter > Listowner Kristy Williams Sumter@US-Gen.com >

Thanks for answering. Just such an unusual name. Well, the one in Noxubee County is a family name. I guess that is why the difference in the spelling. MM

I'm afraid I will disappoint you: Souls Chaple is in Geiger, Sumter County, Alabama. MiMiQuinn@aol.com wrote: > > Is the Soule's Chapel Cemetery you are speaking of, in Sumter Co. or Noxubee > County, MS.? If it is in Noxubee County, I would love to have copies. > > Thank You, > > MaryMargaret > > ==== ALSUMTER Mailing List ==== > Have you checked out the Sumter County, ALGenWeb site lately? You never know what exiting things may be awaiting you! > Sumter County, ALGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~alsumter > Listowner Kristy Williams Sumter@US-Gen.com