I will give you the Chiefs name and the description of the land he had, as for the deed, sorry I can't part with that, the Lee County Museum wanted it but I just can't do that ----- Original Message ----- From: "19999Ava McCabe" <avatoomuch@hotmail.com> To: <ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 31, 2006 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [ALSTCLAI] RE: AL History | Dear Delilah, Would it be possible for me to get a copy of your deed? I'm | trying to tract my gr. gr. grandad's indian heritage----Holden | Presley--Preslar. Thanks, Ava Linda McCabe-----AvaTooMuch@hotmail.com | | | >From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> | >Reply-To: ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com | >To: ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com | >Subject: Re: [ALSTCLAI] RE: AL History | >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:35:36 -0500 | > | >IT was all of the east side of Alabama and the West side of Ga (most of | >it), | >in 1832 when they signed the Treaty, about 50 Chiefs took land in Alabama, | >then when the US changed it mind and The Trail of Tears - I have a deed | >that | >was from one of the Chiefs in Opelika, Lee County, Al. If you wanted to | >cross IT, you had to have a passport. | >delilah | >----- Original Message ----- | >From: <NatrLvrnMT@aol.com> | >To: <ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> | >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:53 AM | >Subject: Re: [ALSTCLAI] RE: AL History | > | > | >| | >| In a message dated 3/29/06 8:50:37 PM, dixiepeanut@comcast.net writes: | >| | >| > from the 1700's on up until abt.1824 didn't the Creek & Cherokee | >Indians | >| > still hold the exclusive settlement & hunting rights | >| > | >| | >| My ancestors, the McLendons/McClendons, moved there sometime around 1850 | >and | >| continued to live there.. My grandmother, who was born in Pell City, | >moved | >to | >| TN then KY after 1930s. I would be interested in the early history of | >this | >| area. | >| | >| | >| ==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== | >| NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, | >political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, | >flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for | >removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett | >kathleenburnett@earthlink.net | >| | >| ============================== | >| New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your | >ancestors | >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: | >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 | >| | > | > | > | >==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== | >To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the | >utility address ALSTCLAI-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to | >unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change | >the -L- to a -D- | > | >============================== | >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the | >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. | >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx | > | | _________________________________________________________________ | On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to | get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement | | | ==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== | NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net | | ============================== | Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the | last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx |

Dear Delilah, Would it be possible for me to get a copy of your deed? I'm trying to tract my gr. gr. grandad's indian heritage----Holden Presley--Preslar. Thanks, Ava Linda McCabe-----AvaTooMuch@hotmail.com >From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> >Reply-To: ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com >To: ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [ALSTCLAI] RE: AL History >Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 10:35:36 -0500 > >IT was all of the east side of Alabama and the West side of Ga (most of >it), >in 1832 when they signed the Treaty, about 50 Chiefs took land in Alabama, >then when the US changed it mind and The Trail of Tears - I have a deed >that >was from one of the Chiefs in Opelika, Lee County, Al. If you wanted to >cross IT, you had to have a passport. >delilah >----- Original Message ----- >From: <NatrLvrnMT@aol.com> >To: <ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:53 AM >Subject: Re: [ALSTCLAI] RE: AL History > > >| >| In a message dated 3/29/06 8:50:37 PM, dixiepeanut@comcast.net writes: >| >| > from the 1700's on up until abt.1824 didn't the Creek & Cherokee >Indians >| > still hold the exclusive settlement & hunting rights >| > >| >| My ancestors, the McLendons/McClendons, moved there sometime around 1850 >and >| continued to live there.. My grandmother, who was born in Pell City, >moved >to >| TN then KY after 1930s. I would be interested in the early history of >this >| area. >| >| >| ==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== >| NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, >political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, >flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for >removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett >kathleenburnett@earthlink.net >| >| ============================== >| New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >ancestors >at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >| > > > >==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the >utility address ALSTCLAI-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to >unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change >the -L- to a -D- > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADE/292.1.1 Message Board Post: Hi, My maiden name is brasher. I am the daughter of bonnie and gene brasher. Not sure if this is any help or not.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADE/622 Message Board Post: If there is anyone that knows any of the brasher family that may have lived in odenville or around odenville say in between 1900 -1980, it would be greatly appreciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADE/524.2 Message Board Post: Hello, I am from odenville. That should be public property so long as the divorce is final you would just need to contact the courthouse with the information.

The McLendons have a trucking company in LaFayette, Chambers County, Alabama ----- Original Message ----- From: <NatrLvrnMT@aol.com> To: <ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [ALSTCLAI] RE: AL History | | In a message dated 3/29/06 9:15:48 PM, rbearden@farmerstel.com writes: | | > The entire mid section of Alabama was opened to settlement. | > | | My ancestors, the McLendons, moved to St. Clair (and Marshall) county from | the mid section of Alabama around 1850, as far as i can tell. | | | ==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== | NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net | | ============================== | Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for | ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx |

IT was all of the east side of Alabama and the West side of Ga (most of it), in 1832 when they signed the Treaty, about 50 Chiefs took land in Alabama, then when the US changed it mind and The Trail of Tears - I have a deed that was from one of the Chiefs in Opelika, Lee County, Al. If you wanted to cross IT, you had to have a passport. delilah ----- Original Message ----- From: <NatrLvrnMT@aol.com> To: <ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 12:53 AM Subject: Re: [ALSTCLAI] RE: AL History | | In a message dated 3/29/06 8:50:37 PM, dixiepeanut@comcast.net writes: | | > from the 1700's on up until abt.1824 didn't the Creek & Cherokee Indians | > still hold the exclusive settlement & hunting rights | > | | My ancestors, the McLendons/McClendons, moved there sometime around 1850 and | continued to live there.. My grandmother, who was born in Pell City, moved to | TN then KY after 1930s. I would be interested in the early history of this | area. | | | ==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== | NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net | | ============================== | New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 |

Does the book have the Bumgardner and Hopper family in it, if so, would gladly pay for having the pages copied. Donna in MS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Delilah" <diamond6468@mindspring.com> To: <ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [ALSTCLAI] Heritage Of St. Clair County, AL I got it, give me some time to check

In a message dated 3/29/06 9:15:48 PM, rbearden@farmerstel.com writes: > The entire mid section of Alabama was opened to settlement. > My ancestors, the McLendons, moved to St. Clair (and Marshall) county from the mid section of Alabama around 1850, as far as i can tell.

In a message dated 3/29/06 8:50:37 PM, dixiepeanut@comcast.net writes: > from the 1700's on up until abt.1824 didn't the Creek & Cherokee Indians > still hold the exclusive settlement & hunting rights > My ancestors, the McLendons/McClendons, moved there sometime around 1850 and continued to live there.. My grandmother, who was born in Pell City, moved to TN then KY after 1930s. I would be interested in the early history of this area.

St. Clair County was created as a county in 1818 (prior to Alabama becoming a state). This happened as a result of the Creek War. The entire mid section of Alabama was opened to settlement. It is important to note that St. Clair in 1818 was considerably larger than it is now. Ron > > Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but from the 1700's on up until abt.1824 > didn't the Creek & Cherokee Indians still hold > the exclusive settlement & hunting rights to the territory now included > in St. Clair Co,AL...? > If so, I don't imagine that white folks were too welcome to 'live' > (squat) there. Passing through was one thing, but not living there. > > > Martha > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ALSTCLAI-D-request@rootsweb.com > [mailto:ALSTCLAI-D-request@rootsweb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:38 PM > To: ALSTCLAI-D@rootsweb.com > Subject: ALSTCLAI-D Digest V06 #39 > > > > ==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address ALSTCLAI-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but from the 1700's on up until abt.1824 didn't the Creek & Cherokee Indians still hold the exclusive settlement & hunting rights to the territory now included in St. Clair Co,AL...? If so, I don't imagine that white folks were too welcome to 'live' (squat) there. Passing through was one thing, but not living there. Martha -----Original Message----- From: ALSTCLAI-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:ALSTCLAI-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 5:38 PM To: ALSTCLAI-D@rootsweb.com Subject: ALSTCLAI-D Digest V06 #39

I replied to your private e-mail and it wouldn't let me thru - if you send me an address I will make a copy of the article and send to you ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jene15@aol.com> To: <ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2006 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [ALSTCLAI] Heritage Of St. Clair County, AL | it has an article on washington lankford b 1807 in georgia, married to louisa | brown 1930 st cliar cty, al. article submitted by janeil woolley, 9335 | huntcliff trace, atlanta, ga 30350-1608, email juanells@mindspring.com | | | ==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== | NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net | | ============================== | Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the | last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx |

it has an article on washington lankford b 1807 in georgia, married to louisa brown 1930 st cliar cty, al. article submitted by janeil woolley, 9335 huntcliff trace, atlanta, ga 30350-1608, email juanells@mindspring.com

I got it, give me some time to check ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Allen" <misterbill@pdq.net> To: <ALSTCLAI-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: [ALSTCLAI] Heritage Of St. Clair County, AL | Does anyone have this book? What does it say about the LANGFORDs and | LANKFORDs? | | I'm trying to find the LANGFORDs and LANKFORDs in St. Clair County in | the 1700s and early 1800s. | | Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net> | | | ==== ALSTCLAI Mailing List ==== | NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net | | ============================== | Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for | ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: | http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx |

Does anyone have this book? What does it say about the LANGFORDs and LANKFORDs? I'm trying to find the LANGFORDs and LANKFORDs in St. Clair County in the 1700s and early 1800s. Bill Allen <misterbill@pdq.net>

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/YS.2ADE/306.9.2.1.1.2.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Leaner Lee Bice is my great grand daddy. buried at macedonia cementary, PeaRidge Ala. Toomstone 1859-1923. He was first married to Emma Layton had twelve children one Addie /married John Mcdaniel. She was my grandmother. Second married Elizabeth (Lizzie) England/ They had twelve children. I have most of his children's name. I am also looking for the remainder of childrens name..Looking for Emma Layton parents. Looking for Lee's parents. address 3893 Highway 10, Montevallo,al. phone 205 665 7407.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Rich Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/YS.2ADE/621 Message Board Post: I am trying to find out if there are any descendants of James Dudley Rich (deceased) and Lillian J. Young Rich (deceased) who are buried at Old Valley Hill Cemetary in Cropwell, St. Clair County, Alabama. I have a book from 1940 which belonged to James and would love to give it back to a family member if possible. If anyone can help me out, it would be greatly appreciated; just email me and put James Dudley Rich in the subject line so I will not delete it as spam. Thank you very much, Donna Williams Park Hall, MD

most records are now at the courthouse in ashville, al at the archives. see charlene simpson there for help. she has microfilm and original records and newspapers.

PELL CITY HAS A LIBRARY WITH A SMALL GENEALOGY SECTION. JOHN D. LEE