Hi Laura, You wrote: << And what are the letters before the two Jean's occupations? It looks like mne, an abbreviation perhaps? But for what word? >> The abbreviation is <<Mre>> for the word "maître" (maître cordonnier/maître maréchal ferrand = master shoemaker/ master blacksmith ) << There are two Schmidt signatures; Simon and what appears to be Nicolas. The longer Schmidt signature is just below the record but looks awfully lengthy for the short name Jean. Any suggestions about what that might say? >> There are 3 signatures similar to Schmidt: - Johannes (= Jean) SCHMID(T) - Niklaus (= Nicolas) SCHMIT - Simon SCHMITT Ewald -------------------------------------------------- From: "Laura Aanenson" <where2look4ancestors@gmail.com> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:16 PM To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [A-L] Schmitt & Adam marriage record more help please > Ewald helped me with portions of the 1739 marriage record I'm working on. > (Thank you again for your help Ewald!) > > I tried to transcribe and translate the rest of the record (see below) and > could use additional help please. In particular, the words squeezed > between > Anne and Française's names - I'm guessing they refer to Mr. Bettinger's > signature at the end of the record. He must be a relative of Jean's > deceased wife - is the first name Bartholomew? > > And what are the letters before the two Jean's occupations? It looks like > mne, an abbreviation perhaps? But for what word? > > There are two Schmidt signatures; Simon and what appears to be Nicolas. > The > longer Schmidt signature is just below the record but looks awfully > lengthy > for the short name Jean. Any suggestions about what that might say? > > Many thanks to anyone who can help me complete this record: > > L’an mil Sept cens trente neuf, après la publication de bans de mariage > faite dans laforme prescripte par lasse eglife sans opposition > quelconcque, > des fiançailles celebrees le trente aoust ont reçu la bénédiction nuptial > le second Septembre Jean Schmidt nme cordonnier et veuf de le défunte Anne > Catherine Bettinger et Française Adam veuve défunte Jean Bouché en son > vivant mne maréchal ferrant en presence d’autre post en presence de leures > parens et témoin soussignés. > > > > In the year 1739, after the marriage banns were unopposed, celebrated > their > engagement August 30th and received the nuptial blessing [were married] on > the second of September Jean Schmidt nme shoemaker and widower of the late > Catherine Anne Bettinger and Française Adam widow of the late Jean Bouché > who made his living as a blacksmith the presence of the undersigned > witnesses and relatives .Alpha > > Relatively speaking, > > Laura > > PS: Are we related? Find out at http://where2look4ancestors.com/ > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ah ha! Very helpful Ewald - thank you! Were you able to read the words squeezed between Anne and Française's names? Do they just refer to Mr. Bettinger? I was hoping maybe they identified his connection to the couple... On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Ewald K. <ewald.klein@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Laura, > > You wrote: << And what are the letters before the two Jean's occupations? > It > looks like > mne, an abbreviation perhaps? But for what word? >> > > The abbreviation is <<Mre>> for the word "maître" (maître cordonnier/maître > maréchal ferrand = master shoemaker/ master blacksmith ) > > << There are two Schmidt signatures; Simon and what appears to be Nicolas. > The > longer Schmidt signature is just below the record but looks awfully lengthy > for the short name Jean. Any suggestions about what that might say? >> > > There are 3 signatures similar to Schmidt: > - Johannes (= Jean) SCHMID(T) > - Niklaus (= Nicolas) SCHMIT > - Simon SCHMITT > > Ewald > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Laura Aanenson" <where2look4ancestors@gmail.com> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:16 PM > To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [A-L] Schmitt & Adam marriage record more help please > > > Ewald helped me with portions of the 1739 marriage record I'm working on. > > (Thank you again for your help Ewald!) > > > > I tried to transcribe and translate the rest of the record (see below) > and > > could use additional help please. In particular, the words squeezed > > between > > Anne and Française's names - I'm guessing they refer to Mr. Bettinger's > > signature at the end of the record. He must be a relative of Jean's > > deceased wife - is the first name Bartholomew? > > > > And what are the letters before the two Jean's occupations? It looks like > > mne, an abbreviation perhaps? But for what word? > > > > There are two Schmidt signatures; Simon and what appears to be Nicolas. > > The > > longer Schmidt signature is just below the record but looks awfully > > lengthy > > for the short name Jean. Any suggestions about what that might say? > > > > Many thanks to anyone who can help me complete this record: > > > > L’an mil Sept cens trente neuf, après la publication de bans de mariage > > faite dans laforme prescripte par lasse eglife sans opposition > > quelconcque, > > des fiançailles celebrees le trente aoust ont reçu la bénédiction nuptial > > le second Septembre Jean Schmidt nme cordonnier et veuf de le défunte > Anne > > Catherine Bettinger et Française Adam veuve défunte Jean Bouché en son > > vivant mne maréchal ferrant en presence d’autre post en presence de > leures > > parens et témoin soussignés. > > > > > > > > In the year 1739, after the marriage banns were unopposed, celebrated > > their > > engagement August 30th and received the nuptial blessing [were married] > on > > the second of September Jean Schmidt nme shoemaker and widower of the > late > > Catherine Anne Bettinger and Française Adam widow of the late Jean > Bouché > > who made his living as a blacksmith the presence of the undersigned > > witnesses and relatives .Alpha > > > > Relatively speaking, > > > > Laura > > > > PS: Are we related? Find out at http://where2look4ancestors.com/ > > -- > > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Relatively speaking, Laura PS: Are we related? Find out at http://where2look4ancestors.com/