On Sun, March 17, 2013 2:52 pm, Davies wrote: > Linda, > > Jacob Erdel and John Erdel were brothers. I know that sometimes Jacob and > John are used intermittenly. I have never seen Jacob and John used interchangeably. If so, it would be completely incorrect, and most likely the result of misunderstanding how to translate names. Jacques -> Jakobi -> Jakob -> Jacob Jean -> Joannes -> Johannes/Johan(n) -> John Some people mistakenly translate Jacques to Jack, and hence get John. But this comes from a lack of understanding the languages. Brian

I'm beginning to think there was an error on the ship manifest. I believe "Fred" that was mentioned is the error and that it should've been John. They were from France. Would parish records list them as Jacques and Jean??? Jacob and John are two separate individuals. Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian J Densmore" <brian@amason.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Erdel family > On Sun, March 17, 2013 2:52 pm, Davies wrote: >> Linda, >> >> Jacob Erdel and John Erdel were brothers. I know that sometimes Jacob and >> John are used intermittenly. > > I have never seen Jacob and John used interchangeably. > If so, it would be completely incorrect, and most likely the result of > misunderstanding how to translate names. > > Jacques -> Jakobi -> Jakob -> Jacob > Jean -> Joannes -> Johannes/Johan(n) -> John > > Some people mistakenly translate Jacques to Jack, and hence get John. > But this comes from a lack of understanding the languages. > > Brian > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That's what I thought, Jacques = Jacob and Jean = John. I know that Jean definitely is the French equivalent of John but when I looked online yesterday everything I found said that Jacques was the equivalent of James which makes no sense to me whatsoever so I hope someone on the list here can verify one way or the other! Linda now in California (was Costa Rica) Monroe County, New York Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys Monroe County, New York History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~monroenys -----Original Message----- From: Davies Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 4:55 PM To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] Erdel family I'm beginning to think there was an error on the ship manifest. I believe "Fred" that was mentioned is the error and that it should've been John. They were from France. Would parish records list them as Jacques and Jean??? Jacob and John are two separate individuals. Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian J Densmore" <brian@amason.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Erdel family > On Sun, March 17, 2013 2:52 pm, Davies wrote: >> Linda, >> >> Jacob Erdel and John Erdel were brothers. I know that sometimes Jacob and >> John are used intermittenly. > > I have never seen Jacob and John used interchangeably. > If so, it would be completely incorrect, and most likely the result of > misunderstanding how to translate names. > > Jacques -> Jakobi -> Jakob -> Jacob > Jean -> Joannes -> Johannes/Johan(n) -> John > > Some people mistakenly translate Jacques to Jack, and hence get John. > But this comes from a lack of understanding the languages. > > Brian