"I've looked around the 'net only briefly but did not come across any population numbers or percentage for German or Swiss-German settlers in the colonies in the 1770's. Have you seen any such numbers?" Richard, You'll find that info on the Ships' Palatine Passenger Lists: [1727-1775] http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/7010/shiplists_pa003.html His total is 65,040. The total population of the US in 1776 was 2,527,450. http://www.populationinstitute.org/newsroom/population-news/?id=42 There were Germans and Swiss living here before 1727, but I can't find a number for that. The bulk of the Germans and Swiss came during this period of 1727-1775. Best wishes, Lynda Jones Bloomsburg, PA USA P.S. I'm renovating an old house preparing to put it up for sale. If I owe anyone a response, I'll get to it eventually. I'm basically reading only the top 5 or 10 e-mails in my Inbox, then I'm off to sand, paint, etc. _____ . Weberstedt, Thuringen, Germany - home of the Uttrodts Family names: Brong, Freitag, von Freitag, Miller, Prang, Savino, Schueller, Uetterodt, von Uetterodt, Utterodt, Uttenrodt, von Uttenrodt, Uttrodt, Ottrott, Van Etten, Van Horn Collateral lines: Dwyer, Eltus, LaFrance, Prentice, Smith

The link below will take you to info on making English the official language of the United States. I thought I remembered from History class that the English language won out over the German language by only a couple votes, but according to the article in the link, it was never voted on. It also give percentage of ethnic groups in 1790 The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.us-english.org/foundation/research/amimmigr/Chapter5.PDF ************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynda L. Jones" <lynda@houseofwaterdancer.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Newspapers, Literacy and Genealogical Research > "I've looked around the 'net only briefly but did not come across any > population numbers or percentage for German or Swiss-German settlers > in the colonies in the 1770's. Have you seen any such numbers?" > > Richard, > > You'll find that info on the Ships' Palatine Passenger Lists: [1727-1775] > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/7010/shiplists_pa003.html > > His total is 65,040. > > The total population of the US in 1776 was 2,527,450. > > http://www.populationinstitute.org/newsroom/population-news/?id=42 >

Where did you find this article? I found it very interesting and informative and I would like to see the entire book. The issues mentioned of an official language vs no official language apparently have been more a part of US history than I realized. We always had the opportunity to learn another language when I was in school, mainly French in grade school and junior high, but in High School, Spanish was also offered and I THINK German - it's been many years! I am definitely a supporter of bilingualism. My kids are fully bilingual and it offers them many opportunities for their futures. This article also offers some insight as to how our ancestors, when they immigrated to the US, were able to get along. Clearly, no matter where they settled, they were most likely to encounter others who spoke their native tongue or a dialect thereof. That Alsatians usually also spoke German must have been important in some areas where they might have settled. While it was most likely easier that they and their children learned English, no doubt it contributed to the loss of culture over the generations. How many of us whose ancestors immigrated in the early to mid 1800's can say that traditions in their homes as they were growing up stem from their ancestors? Now we are "hungry" to learn more about the lives of our ancestors! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: E. White To: lynda@houseofwaterdancer.com ; alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 27 January, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: [A-L] INFO on population 1790 Re: Newspapers,Literacy and Genealogical Research The link below will take you to info on making English the official language of the United States. I thought I remembered from History class that the English language won out over the German language by only a couple votes, but according to the article in the link, it was never voted on. It also give percentage of ethnic groups in 1790 The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.us-english.org/foundation/research/amimmigr/Chapter5.PDF **************************************************************

I had heard & can't remember exactly where but it was on a TV program, that when a language should have been established in this country,? it would probably have been German. I do not remember the program nor the details. Since it was some sort of history program I thought this to be true & never researched it. Maybe someone out there knows the details? Maria -----Original Message----- From: Linda H. Gutierrez <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 7:38 pm Subject: Re: [A-L] INFO on population 1790 Re: Newspapers, Literacy and Genealogical Research Where did you find this article? I found it very interesting and informative and I would like to see the entire book. The issues mentioned of an official language vs no official language apparently have been more a part of US history than I realized. We always had the opportunity to learn another language when I was in school, mainly French in grade school and junior high, but in High School, Spanish was also offered and I THINK German - it's been many years! I am definitely a supporter of bilingualism. My kids are fully bilingual and it offers them many opportunities for their futures. This article also offers some insight as to how our ancestors, when they immigrated to the US, were able to get along. Clearly, no matter where they settled, they were most likely to encounter others who spoke their native tongue or a dialect thereof. That Alsatians usually also spoke German must have been important in some areas where they might have settled. While it was most likely easier that they and their children learned English, no doubt it contributed to the loss of culture over the generations. How many of us whose ancestors immigrated in the early to mid 1800's can say that traditions in their homes as they were growing up stem from their ancestors? Now we are "hungry" to learn more about the lives of our ancestors! Linda in Costa Rica Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ Monroe County, NY History http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ ----- Original Message ----- From: E. White To: lynda@houseofwaterdancer.com ; alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com Sent: 27 January, 2008 4:55 PM Subject: [A-L] INFO on population 1790 Re: Newspapers,Literacy and Genealogical Research The link below will take you to info on making English the official language of the United States. I thought I remembered from History class that the English language won out over the German language by only a couple votes, but according to the article in the link, it was never voted on. It also give percentage of ethnic groups in 1790 The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link attachments: Shortcut to: http://www.us-english.org/foundation/research/amimmigr/Chapter5.PDF ************************************************************** -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

At the time of the US Revolution and a little later, that German might have become the official language of Pennsylvania. Elizabeth in Vermont but who lived in Pennsylvania ----- Original Message ----- From: <mvicareo@aol.com> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] INFO on population 1790 Re: Newspapers, Literacy and Genealogical Research > > I had heard & can't remember exactly where but it was on a TV program, > that when a language should have been established in this country,? it > would probably have been German. I do not remember the program nor the > details. Since it was some sort of history program I thought this to be > true & never researched it. Maybe someone out there knows the details? > Maria > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Linda H. Gutierrez <lilacarlhg@amnet.co.cr> > To: alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 7:38 pm > Subject: Re: [A-L] INFO on population 1790 Re: Newspapers, Literacy > and Genealogical Research > > > > > > > > > > > Where did you find this article? I found it very interesting and > informative > and I would like to see the entire book. The issues mentioned of an > official > language vs no official language apparently have been more a part of US > history > than I realized. We always had the opportunity to learn another language > when I > was in school, mainly French in grade school and junior high, but in High > School, Spanish was also offered and I THINK German - it's been many > years! > > I am definitely a supporter of bilingualism. My kids are fully bilingual > and it > offers them many opportunities for their futures. > > This article also offers some insight as to how our ancestors, when they > immigrated to the US, were able to get along. Clearly, no matter where > they > settled, they were most likely to encounter others who spoke their native > tongue > or a dialect thereof. That Alsatians usually also spoke German must have > been > important in some areas where they might have settled. While it was most > likely > easier that they and their children learned English, no doubt it > contributed to > the loss of culture over the generations. How many of us whose ancestors > immigrated in the early to mid 1800's can say that traditions in their > homes as > they were growing up stem from their ancestors? Now we are "hungry" to > learn > more about the lives of our ancestors! > > Linda > in Costa Rica > Monroe County, NY Records and Family Genealogy > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > Monroe County, NY History > http://freepages.history.rootsweb.com/~monroenys/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: E. White > To: lynda@houseofwaterdancer.com ; alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com > Sent: 27 January, 2008 4:55 PM > Subject: [A-L] INFO on population 1790 Re: Newspapers,Literacy and > Genealogical Research > > > The link below will take you to info on making English the official > language > of the United States. I thought I remembered from History class that the > English language won out over the German language by only a couple votes, > but according to the article in the link, it was never voted on. It also > give percentage of ethnic groups in 1790 > > > The message is ready to be sent with the following file or link > attachments: > Shortcut to: > http://www.us-english.org/foundation/research/amimmigr/Chapter5.PDF > > ************************************************************** > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - > http://webmail.aol.com > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message