Hello Listers, Mardon asked about the forest named "die Hartt" on Cassini's map. Etymology: Hart / Hard means forest in old German. Geography : an area with a poor and stony soil, unsuitable for agriculture, between the rivers Rhine and Ill, east to Mulhouse, from Bartenheim near Basel in the south to Blodelsheim in the north. No running water in this forest and no village. See (long URL!): <http://www.viamichelin.fr/viamichelin/fra/dyn/controller/Cartes?strCountry=1424&strAddress=&strMerged=ottmarsheim&x=22&y=8&ie=UTF-8 > History : the "Forêt de la Hardt" was owned by the Habsburg family, then (when Alsace became French in 1648) became "forêt royale". At that time, it was parted into 16-20 ha parts with almost 1000 landstones with the royal sign ("fleur de lis"). Now "forêt domaniale", i.e. belonging to the state. Source: Dictionnaire du Haut-Rhin and Wikipedia. Best wishes, Etienne > Le 27 nov. 08 à 00:21, Mardon a écrit : > > > Other things on the map that I’d like to know more about are the > area > > labeled “Die Hartt” and the label “SVN T GOW” for the area that was > > later known as the Suntgaw, a.k.a. the "Suntgau" and the "Sundgau" > > Mardon