Hello, I hope someone can clarify these locations. I am searching for the line of Salome Krittle born Dec 14 1823 in Griesbach, Muensertal, France. 1. family history has her listed as Griesbach, Muensertal, France 2. LDS has her listed as Griesbach, Bas-Rhin, France 3. a website listed Munstertal, Germany as being in the Black Forest, Bavaria 4. LDS says Munstertal is also known as Ettenheimmuenster 5. I think I have an idea of the proper listing for the Germany/France variants, but would appreciate help in clarifying the proper application, as it will affect some of my search. What is the proper attribution?: Griesbach in Muenstertal (also called Ettenheimmuenster), Germany is in the Bavarian Black Forest province Baden-Wurttemberg. (NO??) OR Griesbach in Muenstertal is in the Bas-Rhin province(?) of Alsace-Lorraine, France. OR Griesbach in Muenstertal (state??) and of Elsass-Lothringen province, Germany OR ALSO found a Gries, Bas-Rhin, France DIFFERENT?? OR Griesbach in Muenstertal (province??), which, since 1871, is part of the Bas-Rhin county in the Alsace-Lorraine province of France. Part of the Alsation region, Griesbach is cradled in the valley?? of the Rhon-Alpes (French) and sheltered to the West? By the Rhine. Located in the unique territory of Alsace-Lorraine, France is also known as Elsass-Lothringen, Germany and heated border battle area lost by the German Empire, regained by the Nazis during the Second World War, and finally awarded to France. The highly-prized Rhine River area symbolic How common was it for fathers, sons, to serve during the 30 Years War or military service in general? Where can I check for campaign service? Does anyone know the history of the Kolmar/Colmar School in Alsace? ************** One site keeps you connected to all your email: AOL Mail, Gmail, and Yahoo Mail. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity& ncid=emlcntaolcom00000025)

Hi, Griesbach in Muenstertal, France is Griesbach-au-Val near Munster (Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France) in the valley of Munster. According to the site www.geopatronyme.com the name Krittle was present in Alsace-Lorraine only in Sondernach, between 1891-1915 (2 births registered in Sondernach, located about 8 km of Griesbach-au-Val). There are also: - Griesbach (Bas-Rhin, Alsace) near Bouxwiller - Griesbach (Bas-Rhin, Alsace) near Niederbronn-les-Bains. Ewald +++++++++++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Shorvat1@aol.com> To: <ALSACE-LORRAINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:32 PM Subject: [A-L] Help! Location Confusion > Hello, I hope someone can clarify these locations. I am searching for the > line of Salome Krittle born Dec 14 1823 in Griesbach, Muensertal, France. > > 1. family history has her listed as Griesbach, Muensertal, France > 2. LDS has her listed as Griesbach, Bas-Rhin, France > 3. a website listed Munstertal, Germany as being in the Black Forest, > Bavaria > 4. LDS says Munstertal is also known as Ettenheimmuenster > 5. > > I think I have an idea of the proper listing for the Germany/France > variants, > but would appreciate help in clarifying the proper application, as it will > affect some of my search. > > > > What is the proper attribution?: > > Griesbach in Muenstertal (also called Ettenheimmuenster), Germany is in > the > Bavarian Black Forest province Baden-Wurttemberg. (NO??) > > OR > > Griesbach in Muenstertal is in the Bas-Rhin province(?) of > Alsace-Lorraine, > France. > > OR > > Griesbach in Muenstertal (state??) and of Elsass-Lothringen province, > Germany > > OR > > ALSO found a Gries, Bas-Rhin, France DIFFERENT?? > > OR > > Griesbach in Muenstertal (province??), which, since 1871, is part of the > Bas-Rhin county in the Alsace-Lorraine province of France. > > > Part of the Alsation region, Griesbach is cradled in the valley?? of the > Rhon-Alpes (French) and sheltered to the West? By the Rhine. > > Located in the unique territory of Alsace-Lorraine, France is also known > as > Elsass-Lothringen, Germany and heated border battle area lost by the > German > Empire, regained by the Nazis during the Second World War, and finally > awarded to > France. The highly-prized Rhine River area symbolic > > > > > > How common was it for fathers, sons, to serve during the 30 Years War or > military service in general? Where can I check for campaign service? > > Does anyone know the history of the Kolmar/Colmar School in Alsace? >

Le 20 déc. 08 à 21:32, Shorvat1@aol.com a écrit : > Hello, I hope someone can clarify these locations. I am searching > for the > line of Salome Krittle born Dec 14 1823 in Griesbach, Muensertal, > France. > > 1. family history has her listed as Griesbach, Muensertal, France > 2. LDS has her listed as Griesbach, Bas-Rhin, France > 3. a website listed Munstertal, Germany as being in the Black > Forest, Bavaria > 4. LDS says Munstertal is also known as Ettenheimmuenster > > I think I have an idea of the proper listing for the Germany/France > variants, > but would appreciate help in clarifying the proper application, as > it will affect some of my search. Hello "Shorvat1", Lots of questions in your query! let's try to unravel this hodge- podge... As Ewald told you, there are three Griesbach in Alsace: - Griesbach au Val, near Munster, in the "valley of Munster" (Munstertal in German & Alsatian), Haut-Rhin, Alsace, France - The other two are hamlets in Bas-Rhin , merged with another commune. Ettenheim and Ettenheimmünster are in Baden-Wurttemberg, Germany, in a valley of the Black Forest Mountains. Further south in the Black Forest, there is a town named Münstertal. These two places are distinct. Note that in German "Münster" means monastery (same etymology). Now to your questions: > What is the proper attribution?: > > Griesbach in Muenstertal (also called Ettenheimmuenster), Germany is > in the > Bavarian Black Forest province Baden-Wurttemberg. (NO??) No, Münstertal is distinct from Ettenheimmünster, see above Black Forest mountains are in Baden-Wurttemberg Land, Germany. Bavaria has nothing to do here. > Griesbach in Muenstertal is in the Bas-Rhin province(?) of Alsace- > Lorraine, France. Griesbach au Val is in the valley of Munster (Münstertal), Haut-Rhin department, Alsace region, France > Griesbach in Muenstertal (state??) and of Elsass-Lothringen > province, Germany Elsass-Lothringen province existed only from 1871 to 1918. > ALSO found a Gries, Bas-Rhin, France DIFFERENT?? Yes, Gries is a village near Brumath, Bas-Rhin, Alsace, France There are also a Gries and several Griesbach in Germany... > Griesbach in Muenstertal (province??), which, since 1871, ... and until 1918 > ... is part of the Bas-Rhin county no: department > ... in the Alsace-Lorraine province of France. In France, Alsace and Lorraine have always been distinct provinces and are now distinct regions. > Part of the Alsation region, Griesbach is cradled in the valley?? of > the > Rhon-Alpes (French) and sheltered to the West? By the Rhine. Rhone-Alpes is quite far from Alsace. See a map, please. > Located in the unique territory of Alsace-Lorraine, France is also > known as > Elsass-Lothringen, Germany and heated border battle area lost by the > German > Empire, regained by the Nazis during the Second World War, and > finally awarded to > France. The highly-prized Rhine River area symbolic This historical sketch is very simplistic. See (among other sites): <http://mapage.noos.fr/ephil> > How common was it for fathers, sons, to serve during the 30 Years > War or > military service in general? Where can I check for campaign service? During 30 Years war, the soldiers were mainly mercenaries. The rules changed over the years. Your question is too general to be answered. > Does anyone know the history of the Kolmar/Colmar School in Alsace? Colmar has many schools. Colmar has always been written Colmar, even during the 1871-1918 German period. Only the Nazis wrote it with a K (1940-1945). Have a nice Sunday Etienne