Hello Allen, you're welcome! Aloyse or Aloise (with a double dot (¨) of the I, in French), or in German Alois, is indeed a male name. The female equivalent is Alice. In old German, I and J are often confused. At the beginning of a word, they are pronounced like Y in English, as Cari wrote it. Therefore JUD can be written as IUD. A misreading of the U could have transformed it to a N. No clue as to why Morand's sons went through Switzerland. Did you ask the question to the CDHF staff? Etienne Le 30 mai 08 à 09:00, alsace-lorraine-request@rootsweb.com a écrit : > Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 16:05:22 EDT > From: AllenAmet@aol.com > > In a message dated 5/29/2008 3:41:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > etienne.herrbach@wanadoo.fr writes: > > As to Allen's query, I guess that a French-speaker named JUD had his > name transcribed into SCHUTT in Alsace or any other Germanic > linguistic > area. > > Etienne > > > =========== > Thank you for this further info, Etienne. > > I have been fortunate in locating most of this Jud family in > Ranspach-le-haut (Ober-ranspach). > > In May-June 1859, the father Morand Jud and his 5 children > emigrated to > the US, arriving safely in New York. One puzzle is why his youngest > son Alois > (born ca 1846) was rendered as 'Aloise' (a girl on the ship > manifest). And his > age of 13 was adjusted to 9-1/2, perhaps for a discount (under ten)? > > There were two other sons of Morand Jud, Pierre (b. 1833) and > Morand jr > (b. 1835). Both seem to have gone to Switzerland first before > traveling to the > US. I found Piere's passage (misspelled) in July, 1853 (on the ship > "Florida). But I cannot find Morand jr's Atlantic crossing anywhere. > I assume > something happened to his last name, as usual. > > Muggenthalers's Alsace book has some of these people listed, but > incorrectly transcribed, IND for JUD. (!) > > The CDHF website also has some data, but mosty extracted from > Dominique > Dreyer's book (1800-1870). She used "passport application" > material, probably > from Colmar. But that doesn't contain anything for Pierre or Morand > Jr, since > they apparently went from upper Ranspach to Switzerland first, and > the dated > applications were only used in traveling to the US directly. One > wonders if > any records exist from the 1850s to show emigration to Switzerland > as well, > even as a stop on the way to America. > > Allen > in Brooklyn, NY