>Hi fellow Canadian-- Go to LDS family search site- - - get the Library catalogue- - - then go to KEYWORD.- - - then put in the word Orting- - - I think you will be surprised what is available for Oeting. Most people will go to the cataloge, and do not use this also. Many things are not in the catalogue the way WE think they should be and this is a good source also. Miriam Hall Hansen Many thanks, Miriam, on behalf of this non-Canadian, too, who had not thought to use the KEYWORD search on the FHL Catalog search page! I've now discovered, thanks to KEYWORD, that Niederroedern (Bas-Rhin) is included in a canton/county-wide Civil Registration Index 1813-1882 as well as its own municipal index. Here's this new (to me) source: Tables décennales, 1813-1882: Seltz (Bas-Rhin : Canton). Greffe du Tribunal d'Instance Microfilmage des originaux dans les Archives départementales, Strasbourg. Le canton de Seltz comprend les communes de: Seltz, Aschbach, Beinheim, Buhl, Croettwiller, Eberbach-Seltz, Kesseldorf, Mothern, Munchhausen, NIEDERROEDERN, Oberlauterbach, Schaffhouse-pres-Seltz, Siegen, Stund- willer, Trimbach, et Wintzenbach. Ten year indexes for the canton of Seltz, Bas-Rhin, France (also called Selz, Elsaß-Lothringen, Germany). Text in French and German. 1813-1832 FHL INTL Film 742564 1833-1842 FHL INTL Film 742565 1843-1862 FHL INTL Film 742566 1863-1872 FHL INTL Film 1165948 Item 1 1813-1832 (un autre filmage) FHL INTL Film 797389 1833-1862 (un autre filmage) FHL INTL Film 797390 1873-1882 FHL INTL Film 1733512 Item 3 I've some questions for our experts, please: 1. Can anyone comment on the differences (or similarities) between the municipal/Niederroedern registration indexes (which I've already used, and have on indefinite loan at the local FHC) and these county indexes? Would it make sense to look at these too? 2. Can anyone tell me whether there's an advantage to utilizing 2nd filmings rather than the original films? Were 2nd filmings done exclusively in cases of poor microfilming originally? Or were there different reasons? 3. Since there's only indexes and no listing of actual records in the canton films, am I correct that one must then go to the municipality/Niederroedern civil reg: b/m/d records for the actual records, once identified in the indexes. In other words, the municipality sent copies of the indexes only to the county level? Thanks for your on the spot knowledge, experts! Cari Thomas