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    1. Re: [A-L] Alsatia Superior c1580
    2. Etienne Herrbach
    3. Hi Mardon and listers, the Cassini maps were the first maps to cover entirely the (then) kingdom of France, between 1756 and 1789 (Source: French Wikipedia). It is a remarkable work. However, the precise localization of villages and towns is not always accurate. Compare for ex. the area of Ferrette with a modern map (e.g. "Google maps", then search for Ferrette): particularly look at the relative positions of Ferrette (Pfirt), Bouxwiller (Buschwil) and Oltingue (Oltingen) (Please note that the orientation is not the same: on Cassini's map, the north is on your right). One has to remember that the maps were drawn by French-speaking people, who transcribed phonetically the local names of places. Also, as you have noticed, Sondersdorf is missing, whereas Fusswiller cannot been found on modern maps (at least I couldn't find it). Sondersdorf is mentionned as Sundroltestorff in 1146 and Sundersdorf in 1284. As to Raedersdorf, there are two possibilities: either "Roterstorff" south to '"Pfirt", or "Roterstorff" south to "Oltingen". There is a Rodersdorf (in today Switzerland) just across the border, near Biederthal (in today France) which must be "Beitenthal" on Cassini's map. I guess Raedersdorf corresponds to the first possibility. To conclude, Cassini's map is fascinating indeed, but it should not be used to locate a place precisely, unless it is compared to a modern map. Further remarks: Pfirt is indeed Ferrette, as Mardon wrote in another post. SVN T GOW is Sundgau. For further questions about specific places, just drop me a line. I'll check in the "Dictionnaire du Haut-Rhin". Etienne Le 27 nov. 08 à 00:21, Mardon a écrit : > I found a fantastic, hi-resolution, on-line map of Alsatia Superior > c1580 at > this URL: > http://cartocassini.free.fr/region/alsace/alsace-mercator1 > > My ERBLAND ancestors come from the village of Sondersdorf, which is > 2 km > southeast of Ferrette (where the ruins of the Château de Ferrette are > located) and 2.5 km northwest of Raedersdorf. > > The map shows "Roderstorf" where "Raedersdorf" is located today and > it shows > the symbol for a castle at the location of the Château de Ferrette > but the > name “Ferrette" is not there. The name "Pfirt" seems to be the > label for > the castle and the place names of "Buschwil" and "Fußwiller" are in > the area > where Sondersdorf is located now. I have birth records in Latin for > my > family that go back to the early 1600’s and these all list > Sondersdorf as > the village name in that area. > > I’d like to know how the names on the map got changed between 1580 > and the > 1600’s. I’d also like to know more about the nature of Alsatia > Superior. > It stretched much further to the east than Alsace and Haut-Rhin goes > today. > > Other things on the map that I’d like to know more about are the area > labeled “Die Hartt” and the label “SVN T GOW” for the area that was > later > known as the Suntgaw, a.k.a. the "Suntgau" and the "Sundgau" > > All feedback is welcome and appreciated. > > Mardon

    11/27/2008 02:13:31