Hi, Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire oversized paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil Photographique des Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la Conscription Allemande de 1942-1945". These volumes list over 6600 Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who never returned home after WWII. I believe that these men (and several women) were either KIA/MIA. Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not all inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and villages and I believe the place where they died or went missing along with a photo when available (over 90% have a photo most of which are portrait). I estimate that 50% of those photos show the man in uniform. Most appear to be soldiers although there are some sailors. I can't tell if any were airmen. Also included in some of the details for many of the men is a SP with a number (example: SP 19402). Does anyone know the meaning of that code I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time period, and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth village. REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th century. Charlie csherida@tampabay.r.com

Hi Charlie, If I remember correctly, SP means "secteur postal" for military mail. It therefore may give the location of their unit. A little like APO here. When you have a chance, let me know if there is any Bader from Epfig. I heard that the branch is disappearing :( That may be one of the reasons... Best, - Giliane -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:16 AM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@root Subject: [A-L] WWII Bas-Rhin Researching MIA-KIA ONLY Hi, Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire oversized paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil Photographique des Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la Conscription Allemande de 1942-1945". These volumes list over 6600 Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who never returned home after WWII. I believe that these men (and several women) were either KIA/MIA. Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not all inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and villages and I believe the place where they died or went missing along with a photo when available (over 90% have a photo most of which are portrait). I estimate that 50% of those photos show the man in uniform. Most appear to be soldiers although there are some sailors. I can't tell if any were airmen. Also included in some of the details for many of the men is a SP with a number (example: SP 19402). Does anyone know the meaning of that code I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time period, and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth village. REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th century. Charlie csherida@tampabay.r.com -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 6:43 AM

Thanks Giliane. Only one BADER - Jean Pierre, 21 Jan 1923 - Ste Marie-aux-Mines - Strasbourg - SP MH 53433 SF 190 MPHA Vienne-Fiume Connect? Take care. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Giliane Bader-Wechseler" <gbw1@comcast.net> To: <alsace-lorraine@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:12 AM Subject: Re: [A-L] WWII Bas-Rhin Researching MIA-KIA ONLY > Hi Charlie, > > If I remember correctly, SP means "secteur postal" for military mail. It > therefore may give the location of their unit. A little like APO here. > > When you have a chance, let me know if there is any Bader from Epfig. I > heard that the branch is disappearing :( That may be one of the > reasons... > > Best, > > - Giliane > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charlie > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 1:16 AM > To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@root > Subject: [A-L] WWII Bas-Rhin Researching MIA-KIA ONLY > > Hi, > > Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire oversized > paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil Photographique des > Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la Conscription Allemande de > 1942-1945". > These volumes list over 6600 Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who never returned > home > after WWII. I believe that these men (and several women) were either > KIA/MIA. > > Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not all > inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. > > The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and > villages > and I believe the place where they died or went missing along with a photo > when available (over 90% have a photo most of which are portrait). I > estimate that 50% of those photos show the man in uniform. Most appear to > be soldiers although there are some sailors. I can't tell if any were > airmen. Also included in some of the details for many of the men is a SP > with a number (example: SP 19402). Does anyone know the meaning of that > code > > I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time period, > and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth village. > > REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th > century. > > Charlie > csherida@tampabay.r.com > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.6/1579 - Release Date: 7/29/2008 > 6:43 AM > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As one Charlie to another would you mind checking to see if there are any HOLTZBACHs from Strasbourg in your book. Thank you. Charlie Holtzbach - Candler, NC On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:16 AM, Charlie <csherida@tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire oversized > paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil Photographique des > Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la Conscription Allemande de 1942-1945". > These volumes list over 6600 Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who never returned > home after WWII. I believe that these men (and several women) were either > KIA/MIA. > > Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not all > inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. > > The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and > villages and I believe the place where they died or went missing along with > a photo when available (over 90% have a photo most of which are portrait). > I estimate that 50% of those photos show the man in uniform. Most appear > to be soldiers although there are some sailors. I can't tell if any were > airmen. Also included in some of the details for many of the men is a SP > with a number (example: SP 19402). Does anyone know the meaning of that > code > > I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time period, > and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth village. > > REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th century. > > Charlie > csherida@tampabay.r.com > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/%7Evalorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Charlie, Good news about the "Disparus alsaciens victimes de la conscription allemande" A CD containing the photo of 7204 persons is available for 10 euros in France at Musée du pays de la Zorn 12 rue du Général Koenig 67270 Hochfelden France Tél. : 03 88 89 04 52 Mail : museedupays@hochfelden.com It is possible to order it To order it , send a mail to museedupays@hochfelden.com Daniel Joedicke member of AGAWE The Genealogy Workshop of the Wissembourg Area North Alsace Atelier de Genealogie de l'Arrondissement de Wissembourg et Environs http://agawe-genealogie.com This area is also called "Outre-foret" in french ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie" <csherida@tampabay.rr.com> To: "ALSACE-LORRAINE@root" <ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2008 7:16 AM Subject: [A-L] WWII Bas-Rhin Researching MIA-KIA ONLY > Hi, > > Thanks to a friend in France I just received the hard to acquire oversized > paper-bound 1948 - used 2 volume edition "Recueil Photographique des > Disparus du Bas-Rhin - Victimes de la Conscription Allemande de > 1942-1945". These volumes list over 6600 Alsatians from Bas-Rhin who > never returned home after WWII. I believe that these men (and several > women) were either KIA/MIA. > > Everything is written in French and German and these volumes are not all > inclusive as I know of a couple of cousins who were not included. > > The names are listed in alphabetical order and give birth dates and > villages and I believe the place where they died or went missing along > with a photo when available (over 90% have a photo most of which are > portrait). I estimate that 50% of those photos show the man in uniform. > Most appear to be soldiers although there are some sailors. I can't tell > if any were airmen. Also included in some of the details for many of the > men is a SP with a number (example: SP 19402). Does anyone know the > meaning of that code > > I'll do a look up for researchers seeking relatives from that time period, > and from BAS-RHIN Only. I'll need the name and birth village. > > REMEMBER this is WWII and almost all the men were born in the 20th > century. > > Charlie > csherida@tampabay.r.com > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message