According to the marriage certificate of my third great grandparents, Jacques Schwertzler and Marianne Schwartz, Marianne was born 2 October 1793 in Oberkischif near Franckendall. I have not been able to find a village named Oberkischif or Franckendall. Today I decided to Google Franckendall which resulted in a number of hits. Franckendall was a monastery built about 1119 by Eckenbertus Kemerer, a rich gentleman of the city of Wormes. The person who wrote this account was traveling from Spira to Wormes. From Spira it was twelve miles to Franckendall and then five miles to Wormes. I still am having no luck finding Franckendall and am looking for any suggestions. I found this information on page 399 of Coryat's Crudities: Reprinted from the Edition of 1611 This book can be found on Google Books. Curt Miller

Could the village be Frankenthal which is about 5 miles south of Worms? About 15 miles to the south of Frankenthal is Speyer. Could this be your Spira? I could not locate Oberkischif. Frank in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: <curtw@comcast.net> To: "Alsace-Lorraine" <ALSACE-LORRAINE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2008 7:29 PM Subject: [A-L] Oberkischif near Franckendall > According to the marriage certificate of my third great grandparents, Jacques Schwertzler and Marianne Schwartz, Marianne was born 2 October 1793 in Oberkischif near Franckendall. I have not been able to find a village named Oberkischif or Franckendall. > > Today I decided to Google Franckendall which resulted in a number of hits. Franckendall was a monastery built about 1119 by Eckenbertus Kemerer, a rich gentleman of the city of Wormes. The person who wrote this account was traveling from Spira to Wormes. From Spira it was twelve miles to Franckendall and then five miles to Wormes. > > I still am having no luck finding Franckendall and am looking for any suggestions. > > I found this information on page 399 of > Coryat's Crudities: Reprinted from the Edition of 1611 > This book can be found on Google Books. > > Curt Miller > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Curt, It looks to me that Franckendall is now called Frankenthal (Pfalz- there are other Frankenthals in Germany), which is about 5-6 miles from Worms. As per Wikipedia, the ruins of the Augustinian Monastery you noted is in the center of town. Gloria I On 4 7, 2008, at 8:29 AM, curtw@comcast.net wrote: > According to the marriage certificate of my third great grandparents, > Jacques Schwertzler and Marianne Schwartz, Marianne was born 2 October > 1793 in Oberkischif near Franckendall. I have not been able to find a > village named Oberkischif or Franckendall. > > Today I decided to Google Franckendall which resulted in a number of > hits. Franckendall was a monastery built about 1119 by Eckenbertus > Kemerer, a rich gentleman of the city of Wormes. The person who wrote > this account was traveling from Spira to Wormes. From Spira it was > twelve miles to Franckendall and then five miles to Wormes. > > I still am having no luck finding Franckendall and am looking for any > suggestions. > > I found this information on page 399 of > Coryat's Crudities: Reprinted from the Edition of 1611 > This book can be found on Google Books. > > Curt Miller > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >