Thanks Bob. I will look through my documents again. My documents are from around 1831 and apparently revolve around the fact that one of my ancestors wanted to get married and had no birth certificate, and her mother was deceased. So they had a tribunal seated to produce a birth document for her, a death document for her mother, and whatever else they needed to allow this woman to marry. Coincidentally, I have Blocks in my line. The deceased and her daughter were Rosette Bloch b 1762 in Zellwiller-Bas-Rhine, and Rosine Bloch Franck (aka Rosetta) b. 1801 in Gerstheim. Rosette's father was Aron Bloch (aka Aron Israel) Do you think there is a connection or was your use of that name purely for 'demonstration purposes'? -----Original Message----- From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT TEITELBAUM Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:43 AM To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [A-L] Translation Eve Slater Eve wrote: I have some Alsace documents from the early 1800s about my family. Naturally they are difficult to read, doubly so since I am not fluent in French. I have found some resources online with common words used in these documents, but I am stuck. One of the documents is a death record. . . Eve, It depends what you mean by early. If I remember the documents at the beginning of the century are all hand written. Later they are forms with blanks the official filled in. Below is a format I created when I translated death documents. It is from 1839. The items in bold type are different for each death record. Based on what I have from my ancesters, it is routine to list the ages and professions of declarers. They were often but not always relatives of the deceased. Hope this is a help. Bob Teitelbaum *********************************************** Village of Valff, District of Schlestat. The 30th day of the month of October 1839, at 9:00 in the evening. Certificate of Death for Bloch, Lazar age 80 years died the 30th October 1869 in Valff at 9 o?clock in the morning, profession merchant, born in Valff, department of Bas Rhin, living in Valff. was married to the late Schwab, Marie the legitimate son of the late Bloch, Moise; merchant; who was born in Valff lived in Valff department of Bas Rhin and of the late [no name listed], who was born in Valff and lived in Valff, department of Bas Rhin. By this declaration made to us by Bloch, Aron age 33 years, profession of horse trader living in Valff who is said to be the son of the deceased and by Bloch, Moise age 40 years profession of merchant living in Valff who is said to be nephew of the deceased, and after reading have signed. Certified by us Bordan,B??. doing the functions of the Civil Officer of the State, after we were assured of the death by the mortuary. Signed by the Mayor and Witnesses. -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Franck was, I believe, a Sephardic Jewish name. Bloch might also be Jewish [and with a name like Aron Israel!]. You might want to look along those line. Nancy ------- I was never lost, but I was bewildered once for three days. --Daniel Boone On Apr 20, 2008, at 11:01 AM, Eve Slater wrote: > Thanks Bob. I will look through my documents again. My documents > are from > around 1831 and apparently revolve around the fact that one of my > ancestors > wanted to get married and had no birth certificate, and her mother was > deceased. So they had a tribunal seated to produce a birth document > for her, > a death document for her mother, and whatever else they needed to > allow this > woman to marry. > > Coincidentally, I have Blocks in my line. The deceased and her > daughter were > Rosette Bloch b 1762 in Zellwiller-Bas-Rhine, and Rosine Bloch > Franck (aka > Rosetta) b. 1801 in Gerstheim. Rosette's father was Aron Bloch (aka > Aron > Israel) Do you think there is a connection or was your use of that > name > purely for 'demonstration purposes'? > > -----Original Message----- > From: alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:alsace-lorraine-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of ROBERT > TEITELBAUM > Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 9:43 AM > To: ALSACE-LORRAINE@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [A-L] Translation Eve Slater > > Eve wrote: > > I have some Alsace documents from the early 1800s about my family. > Naturally > they are difficult to read, doubly so since I am not fluent in > French. I > have found some resources online with common words used in these > documents, > but I am stuck. One of the documents is a death record. . . > > Eve, > > It depends what you mean by early. If I remember the documents at the > beginning of the century are all hand written. Later they are > forms with > blanks the official filled in. > > Below is a format I created when I translated death documents. It > is from > 1839. The items in bold type are different for each death record. > Based on > what I have from my ancesters, it is routine to list the ages and > professions of declarers. They were often but not always relatives > of the > deceased. Hope this is a help. > > Bob Teitelbaum > *********************************************** > Village of Valff, District of Schlestat. The 30th day of the month of > October 1839, at 9:00 in the evening. > > Certificate of Death for Bloch, Lazar age 80 years died the 30th > October > 1869 in Valff at 9 o?clock in the morning, profession merchant, > born in > Valff, department of Bas Rhin, living in Valff. > > was married to the late Schwab, Marie > > the legitimate son of the late Bloch, Moise; merchant; who was born > in Valff > lived in Valff department of Bas Rhin > > and of the late [no name listed], who was born in Valff and lived > in Valff, > department of Bas Rhin. > > By this declaration made to us by Bloch, Aron age 33 years, > profession of > horse trader living in Valff who is said to be the son of the deceased > and by Bloch, Moise age 40 years profession of merchant living in > Valff who > is said to be nephew of the deceased, and after reading have signed. > > Certified by us Bordan,B??. doing the functions of the Civil > Officer of the > State, after we were assured of the death by the mortuary. > > Signed by the Mayor and Witnesses. > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ALSACE-LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ALSACE- > LORRAINE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message