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    1. Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin
    2. Etienne Herrbach
    3. Hi Listers, Narda is right, old tomstones are rare in cemeteries in Alsace. After some decades, the tombs are "recycled", due to lack of space. As to war memorials, a French website gives lists of names found on such momuments or other sources. See: <http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/> then click on département (67 = Bas-Rhin, 68 = Haut-Rhin). Surname searches can also be done. Etienne Le 29 août 11 à 23:56, Narda Iulg a écrit : > Hi List, > Just a thought about tombstones. This has raised long discussions on > some > other sites and I don't mean to do that here, but... burial and > cemetery > care and rotation/recycling varies greatly in Europe compared to North > America. If one isn't aware of that you can feel like you are > banging your > head against a stone wall. Hopefully the village you are looking for > still > has their cemetery intact. > > In the case of mine, the mayor of the village had all the tombstones > removed > and destroyed in the 1950s. The cemetery that is there now is "new" > and of > little use when searching ancient dates. > > But, there is another possible source available in some villages. > That is > the war monuments or memorials to fallen soldiers. I have been able > to use > these to verify both family and witness names found on birth, > marriage or > death certificates. You know at least they came from that village > and so you > can follow up from there. > Narda > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 PM >> Subject: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin >> >> >>> If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below >>> and >>> would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the >>> family name. >>> >>> Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while >>> others have >>> a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early >>> 19th century. >>> >>> I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of >>> those >>> many have been eroded and unreadable. >>> >>> I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are >>> looking >>> for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. >>> >>> Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; >>> MERTIAN; >>> STACKLER (3 monuments). >>> Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER >>> (poor). >>> Hilsenheim – ROHMER >>> Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. >>> Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & >>> MEYER (1 >>> monument). >>> Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). >>> >>> Direct all correspondence to me. >>> >>> Charlie >>> Homosassa, FL >>> [email protected]

    08/30/2011 03:50:38
    1. Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin
    2. Charlie Sheridan
    3. -----Original Message----- From: Etienne Herrbach Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin Hi Listers, Narda is right, old tomstones are rare in cemeteries in Alsace. After some decades, the tombs are "recycled", due to lack of space. As to war memorials, a French website gives lists of names found on such momuments or other sources. See: <http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/> then click on département (67 = Bas-Rhin, 68 = Haut-Rhin). Surname searches can also be done. Etienne Le 29 août 11 à 23:56, Narda Iulg a écrit : > Hi List, > Just a thought about tombstones. This has raised long discussions on > some > other sites and I don't mean to do that here, but... burial and > cemetery > care and rotation/recycling varies greatly in Europe compared to North > America. If one isn't aware of that you can feel like you are > banging your > head against a stone wall. Hopefully the village you are looking for > still > has their cemetery intact. > > In the case of mine, the mayor of the village had all the tombstones > removed > and destroyed in the 1950s. The cemetery that is there now is "new" > and of > little use when searching ancient dates. > > But, there is another possible source available in some villages. > That is > the war monuments or memorials to fallen soldiers. I have been able > to use > these to verify both family and witness names found on birth, > marriage or > death certificates. You know at least they came from that village > and so you > can follow up from there. > Narda > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 PM >> Subject: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin >> >> >>> If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below >>> and >>> would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the >>> family name. >>> >>> Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while >>> others have >>> a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early >>> 19th century. >>> >>> I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of >>> those >>> many have been eroded and unreadable. >>> >>> I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are >>> looking >>> for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. >>> >>> Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; >>> MERTIAN; >>> STACKLER (3 monuments). >>> Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER >>> (poor). >>> Hilsenheim – ROHMER >>> Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. >>> Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & >>> MEYER (1 >>> monument). >>> Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). >>> >>> Direct all correspondence to me. >>> >>> Charlie >>> Homosassa, FL >>> [email protected] -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/30/2011 09:59:52
    1. Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin
    2. Narda Iulg
    3. Thank you Etienne. I appreciate learning about that site. Narda On 30 August 2011 15:59, Charlie Sheridan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Etienne Herrbach > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin > > Hi Listers, > > Narda is right, old tomstones are rare in cemeteries in Alsace. After > some decades, the tombs are "recycled", due to lack of space. > > As to war memorials, a French website gives lists of names found on > such momuments or other sources. > See: <http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/> > then click on département (67 = Bas-Rhin, 68 = Haut-Rhin). Surname > searches can also be done. > > Etienne > > > > Le 29 août 11 à 23:56, Narda Iulg a écrit : > > > Hi List, > > Just a thought about tombstones. This has raised long discussions on > > some > > other sites and I don't mean to do that here, but... burial and > > cemetery > > care and rotation/recycling varies greatly in Europe compared to North > > America. If one isn't aware of that you can feel like you are > > banging your > > head against a stone wall. Hopefully the village you are looking for > > still > > has their cemetery intact. > > > > In the case of mine, the mayor of the village had all the tombstones > > removed > > and destroyed in the 1950s. The cemetery that is there now is "new" > > and of > > little use when searching ancient dates. > > > > But, there is another possible source available in some villages. > > That is > > the war monuments or memorials to fallen soldiers. I have been able > > to use > > these to verify both family and witness names found on birth, > > marriage or > > death certificates. You know at least they came from that village > > and so you > > can follow up from there. > > Narda > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 PM > >> Subject: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin > >> > >> > >>> If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below > >>> and > >>> would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the > >>> family name. > >>> > >>> Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while > >>> others have > >>> a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early > >>> 19th century. > >>> > >>> I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of > >>> those > >>> many have been eroded and unreadable. > >>> > >>> I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are > >>> looking > >>> for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. > >>> > >>> Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; > >>> MERTIAN; > >>> STACKLER (3 monuments). > >>> Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER > >>> (poor). > >>> Hilsenheim – ROHMER > >>> Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. > >>> Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & > >>> MEYER (1 > >>> monument). > >>> Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). > >>> > >>> Direct all correspondence to me. > >>> > >>> Charlie > >>> Homosassa, FL > >>> [email protected] > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    08/30/2011 10:11:26
    1. Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin
    2. Sharon Waechter
    3. So, one more way to make our task more complicated! Sharon A Waechter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etienne Herrbach" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:50:38 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin Hi Listers, Narda is right, old tomstones are rare in cemeteries in Alsace. After some decades, the tombs are "recycled", due to lack of space. As to war memorials, a French website gives lists of names found on such momuments or other sources. See: <http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/> then click on département (67 = Bas-Rhin, 68 = Haut-Rhin). Surname searches can also be done. Etienne Le 29 août 11 à 23:56, Narda Iulg a écrit : > Hi List, > Just a thought about tombstones. This has raised long discussions on > some > other sites and I don't mean to do that here, but... burial and > cemetery > care and rotation/recycling varies greatly in Europe compared to North > America. If one isn't aware of that you can feel like you are > banging your > head against a stone wall. Hopefully the village you are looking for > still > has their cemetery intact. > > In the case of mine, the mayor of the village had all the tombstones > removed > and destroyed in the 1950s. The cemetery that is there now is "new" > and of > little use when searching ancient dates. > > But, there is another possible source available in some villages. > That is > the war monuments or memorials to fallen soldiers. I have been able > to use > these to verify both family and witness names found on birth, > marriage or > death certificates. You know at least they came from that village > and so you > can follow up from there. > Narda > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 PM >> Subject: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin >> >> >>> If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below >>> and >>> would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the >>> family name. >>> >>> Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while >>> others have >>> a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early >>> 19th century. >>> >>> I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of >>> those >>> many have been eroded and unreadable. >>> >>> I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are >>> looking >>> for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. >>> >>> Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; >>> MERTIAN; >>> STACKLER (3 monuments). >>> Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER >>> (poor). >>> Hilsenheim – ROHMER >>> Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. >>> Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & >>> MEYER (1 >>> monument). >>> Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). >>> >>> Direct all correspondence to me. >>> >>> Charlie >>> Homosassa, FL >>> [email protected] -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/30/2011 10:10:55