Hi Listers, Narda is right, old tomstones are rare in cemeteries in Alsace. After some decades, the tombs are "recycled", due to lack of space. As to war memorials, a French website gives lists of names found on such momuments or other sources. See: <http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/> then click on département (67 = Bas-Rhin, 68 = Haut-Rhin). Surname searches can also be done. Etienne Le 29 août 11 à 23:56, Narda Iulg a écrit : > Hi List, > Just a thought about tombstones. This has raised long discussions on > some > other sites and I don't mean to do that here, but... burial and > cemetery > care and rotation/recycling varies greatly in Europe compared to North > America. If one isn't aware of that you can feel like you are > banging your > head against a stone wall. Hopefully the village you are looking for > still > has their cemetery intact. > > In the case of mine, the mayor of the village had all the tombstones > removed > and destroyed in the 1950s. The cemetery that is there now is "new" > and of > little use when searching ancient dates. > > But, there is another possible source available in some villages. > That is > the war monuments or memorials to fallen soldiers. I have been able > to use > these to verify both family and witness names found on birth, > marriage or > death certificates. You know at least they came from that village > and so you > can follow up from there. > Narda > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 PM >> Subject: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin >> >> >>> If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below >>> and >>> would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the >>> family name. >>> >>> Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while >>> others have >>> a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early >>> 19th century. >>> >>> I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of >>> those >>> many have been eroded and unreadable. >>> >>> I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are >>> looking >>> for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. >>> >>> Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; >>> MERTIAN; >>> STACKLER (3 monuments). >>> Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER >>> (poor). >>> Hilsenheim – ROHMER >>> Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. >>> Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & >>> MEYER (1 >>> monument). >>> Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). >>> >>> Direct all correspondence to me. >>> >>> Charlie >>> Homosassa, FL >>> [email protected]
-----Original Message----- From: Etienne Herrbach Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin Hi Listers, Narda is right, old tomstones are rare in cemeteries in Alsace. After some decades, the tombs are "recycled", due to lack of space. As to war memorials, a French website gives lists of names found on such momuments or other sources. See: <http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/> then click on département (67 = Bas-Rhin, 68 = Haut-Rhin). Surname searches can also be done. Etienne Le 29 août 11 à 23:56, Narda Iulg a écrit : > Hi List, > Just a thought about tombstones. This has raised long discussions on > some > other sites and I don't mean to do that here, but... burial and > cemetery > care and rotation/recycling varies greatly in Europe compared to North > America. If one isn't aware of that you can feel like you are > banging your > head against a stone wall. Hopefully the village you are looking for > still > has their cemetery intact. > > In the case of mine, the mayor of the village had all the tombstones > removed > and destroyed in the 1950s. The cemetery that is there now is "new" > and of > little use when searching ancient dates. > > But, there is another possible source available in some villages. > That is > the war monuments or memorials to fallen soldiers. I have been able > to use > these to verify both family and witness names found on birth, > marriage or > death certificates. You know at least they came from that village > and so you > can follow up from there. > Narda > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 PM >> Subject: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin >> >> >>> If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below >>> and >>> would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the >>> family name. >>> >>> Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while >>> others have >>> a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early >>> 19th century. >>> >>> I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of >>> those >>> many have been eroded and unreadable. >>> >>> I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are >>> looking >>> for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. >>> >>> Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; >>> MERTIAN; >>> STACKLER (3 monuments). >>> Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER >>> (poor). >>> Hilsenheim – ROHMER >>> Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. >>> Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & >>> MEYER (1 >>> monument). >>> Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). >>> >>> Direct all correspondence to me. >>> >>> Charlie >>> Homosassa, FL >>> [email protected] -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you Etienne. I appreciate learning about that site. Narda On 30 August 2011 15:59, Charlie Sheridan <[email protected]> wrote: > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Etienne Herrbach > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 3:50 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin > > Hi Listers, > > Narda is right, old tomstones are rare in cemeteries in Alsace. After > some decades, the tombs are "recycled", due to lack of space. > > As to war memorials, a French website gives lists of names found on > such momuments or other sources. > See: <http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/> > then click on département (67 = Bas-Rhin, 68 = Haut-Rhin). Surname > searches can also be done. > > Etienne > > > > Le 29 août 11 à 23:56, Narda Iulg a écrit : > > > Hi List, > > Just a thought about tombstones. This has raised long discussions on > > some > > other sites and I don't mean to do that here, but... burial and > > cemetery > > care and rotation/recycling varies greatly in Europe compared to North > > America. If one isn't aware of that you can feel like you are > > banging your > > head against a stone wall. Hopefully the village you are looking for > > still > > has their cemetery intact. > > > > In the case of mine, the mayor of the village had all the tombstones > > removed > > and destroyed in the 1950s. The cemetery that is there now is "new" > > and of > > little use when searching ancient dates. > > > > But, there is another possible source available in some villages. > > That is > > the war monuments or memorials to fallen soldiers. I have been able > > to use > > these to verify both family and witness names found on birth, > > marriage or > > death certificates. You know at least they came from that village > > and so you > > can follow up from there. > > Narda > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> > >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 PM > >> Subject: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin > >> > >> > >>> If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below > >>> and > >>> would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the > >>> family name. > >>> > >>> Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while > >>> others have > >>> a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early > >>> 19th century. > >>> > >>> I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of > >>> those > >>> many have been eroded and unreadable. > >>> > >>> I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are > >>> looking > >>> for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. > >>> > >>> Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; > >>> MERTIAN; > >>> STACKLER (3 monuments). > >>> Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER > >>> (poor). > >>> Hilsenheim – ROHMER > >>> Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. > >>> Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & > >>> MEYER (1 > >>> monument). > >>> Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). > >>> > >>> Direct all correspondence to me. > >>> > >>> Charlie > >>> Homosassa, FL > >>> [email protected] > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: > http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
So, one more way to make our task more complicated! Sharon A Waechter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Etienne Herrbach" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2011 12:50:38 PM Subject: Re: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin Hi Listers, Narda is right, old tomstones are rare in cemeteries in Alsace. After some decades, the tombs are "recycled", due to lack of space. As to war memorials, a French website gives lists of names found on such momuments or other sources. See: <http://www.memorial-genweb.org/~memorial2/html/fr/> then click on département (67 = Bas-Rhin, 68 = Haut-Rhin). Surname searches can also be done. Etienne Le 29 août 11 à 23:56, Narda Iulg a écrit : > Hi List, > Just a thought about tombstones. This has raised long discussions on > some > other sites and I don't mean to do that here, but... burial and > cemetery > care and rotation/recycling varies greatly in Europe compared to North > America. If one isn't aware of that you can feel like you are > banging your > head against a stone wall. Hopefully the village you are looking for > still > has their cemetery intact. > > In the case of mine, the mayor of the village had all the tombstones > removed > and destroyed in the 1950s. The cemetery that is there now is "new" > and of > little use when searching ancient dates. > > But, there is another possible source available in some villages. > That is > the war monuments or memorials to fallen soldiers. I have been able > to use > these to verify both family and witness names found on birth, > marriage or > death certificates. You know at least they came from that village > and so you > can follow up from there. > Narda > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Charlie Sheridan" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 9:05 PM >> Subject: [A-L] Old Tombstones in several cemeteries in Bas-Rhin >> >> >>> If anyone is researching the surnames in the villages listed below >>> and >>> would like a photo of that tombstone please e-mail me with the >>> family name. >>> >>> Some monuments are dated late 18th or early 19th century while >>> others have >>> a 19th century date but the person was born in the 18th or early >>> 19th century. >>> >>> I’ve come across few old tombstones in the villages visited and of >>> those >>> many have been eroded and unreadable. >>> >>> I also have photos of many 19th century headstones and if you are >>> looking >>> for a specific family in one of these villages I’ll take a look. >>> >>> Benfeld – GEORGER & KOPP; GEORGER; MARANDE; ROHMER; BLUMSTEIN; >>> MERTIAN; >>> STACKLER (3 monuments). >>> Ebersmunster – HURSTEL (5 monuments); LORBER & MULLER; LOHNER >>> (poor). >>> Hilsenheim – ROHMER >>> Huttenheim – RIEDWIG; EDEL; WILHELM. >>> Kertzfeld – REIBEL, SCHMITT & KLEINDIENST (1 monument); SCHAUB & >>> MEYER (1 >>> monument). >>> Kogenheim – ADOLPH, KRETZ & BAUR (1 monument). >>> >>> Direct all correspondence to me. >>> >>> Charlie >>> Homosassa, FL >>> [email protected] -- Resources for Alsace-Lorraine list members: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~valorie/Alsace-Lorraine-L.htm ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message